LauncherPro - Captivate Themes and Apps

So, Launcher Pro + has just been released, and he's charging 3 bucks for it.
This is my question, How do I get it onto my rooted Captivate? I know it's only 3 dollars, but I'd rather know how to get it on before I actually buy it. Know what I mean?
It isn't available in the market yet, so we have to send him a paypal directly.
Launcherpro.com

side load it with droid explorer? That guy did a great job with launcher pro.

madjsp said:
So, Launcher Pro + has just been released, and he's charging 3 bucks for it.
This is my question, How do I get it onto my rooted Captivate? I know it's only 3 dollars, but I'd rather know how to get it on before I actually buy it. Know what I mean?
It isn't available in the market yet, so we have to send him a paypal directly.
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Quit being cheap and support a developer that worked hard to make a beautiful piece of software.
As you said, it's only 3 dollars.

This is my first android phone. I promise developers will get my money but you have no reason to call anyone cheap. It was a question. If you have a problem with my questions don't read them.
So, what is droid explorer?
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oh i didnt see that you wanted to know how to do it illegally. Droid explorer is program that helps sideload apps. Just do a search for captivate and droid explorer or look through our sideloading apps threads.
On the piracy note, its not ok to discuss such things here because not only is it morally incorrect but xda has to own up for the activities of its users.
btw, because the new launcher pro + costs money, i highly recommend getting the launcher pro regular. Launcher pro truly shines in its speed and flexibility not its widgets. You can always dl more widgets for free from the marketplace. Ofc i will buy his launcher pro + when it comes to market just on principle because of the great launcher alternative he has provided free of charge for everyone to use.

No I wans buy it but I don't know how to put non market apps on my phone. It is rooted though. Does that help?
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madjsp said:
No I wans buy it but I don't know how to put non market apps on my phone. It is rooted though. Does that help?
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sho does, you should pay for it and then he will provide you with an apk to install it with. Droid explorer can take care of the rest. There are other alternatives as well. You should read the sideloading apps threads here in the captivate forums because there is alot of information you should go over b4 attempting and getting frustrated and giving up. Post for help there if you still dont understand after reading through .

Thanks! And just to clear the air, I do not believe in piracy. Developers work too hard on their products. I've paid for most of my programs with Nokia and Apple, just as I will here. I just didn't know how to do it!
I'll look up droid explorer and read that thread. Thanks for the help

Launcher Pro is a mad awesome app. I would pay 10.00 or more for it. I swear my Captivate is TWICE as fast as The iPhone 4 i just returned to At&t.
The dev states it will be in the App market soon, at least thats how I took it from reading his website.

sKyZ said:
Quit being cheap and support a developer that worked hard to make a beautiful piece of software.
As you said, it's only 3 dollars.
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You are being very mean to the poster. He said he doesn't want to buy it if he doesn't know he can use it. You want him to buy it if he can't use it?

SlimJ87D said:
You are being very mean to the poster. He said he doesn't want to buy it if he doesn't know he can use it. You want him to buy it if he can't use it?
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I'm stating that he should buy it. If it doesn't work I can almost guarantee that the developer would give him a refund.
Next time you're at a car dealership, steal a car for me so I can drive it for a week.... I want to make sure it "works" with my style of driving before I purchase it..

Launcher Pro in the market is almost exactly the same as the plus version, but without the custom widgets included. Other than that it's the same. No need to steal.

He didnt say anything about pirating it. He said he wants to buy it but is not sure how to install a non market app. He is just doing a little pre purchase research.
Would you buy a car before or after you learned to drive?
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Ugh, you think you can get away from Trolls who can't read, or at least piece together what someone says.
Not once did I say I wanted to pirate software. I said that I don't know how to put a non-market app on a device since AT&T will not allow it. So why would I spend my money on something that I can't put on there?
Do you buy 18 inch tires for your 16 inch rims, just because bridgestone makes a good tire? No. Sheesh, just leave me alone SkYz.
dsjr2006 said:
Launcher Pro in the market is almost exactly the same as the plus version, but without the custom widgets included. Other than that it's the same. No need to steal.
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Show me where I said I was going to steal it? Go read my first post and explain to me which part meant I was going to try and pirate software. Once you've decided on which part, read the whole post again and figure it out a second time.

sKyZ said:
I'm stating that he should buy it. If it doesn't work I can almost guarantee that the developer would give him a refund.
Next time you're at a car dealership, steal a car for me so I can drive it for a week.... I want to make sure it "works" with my style of driving before I purchase it..
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Why would you need to do that? You have "paper work" to back you up. You think Paypal is going to refund you for downloading a program that you should have researched if it was compatible with your phone or not? That is what he is trying to do. Next time just give him his answer.
You could have been like "Yes, I have it installed right now."

madjsp said:
No I wans buy it but I don't know how to put non market apps on my phone. It is rooted though. Does that help?
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Why not just install the free version and see if you like it and if so upgrade to the paid version.
Also under settings - applications - unknown sources is where you can install apps from the market that would usually not install. --- Did ATT cripple that in the Captivate??

I have the free version but not the paid one
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anosis said:
Also under settings - applications - unknown sources is where you can install apps from the market that would usually not install. --- Did ATT cripple that in the Captivate??
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yup they did, but there's a way to permanently allow non-market apps via editing the .db file and turning the option on

madjsp said:
I have the free version but not the paid one
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if the free one works, then so will the paid one.
droid explorer gives you access to side load the app once you have downloaded & copied the .apk file to your sdcard.

sorry for all of the posts lol.. also, ADW Launcher works perfect as well, thats the one that i use & is in the market for free

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Can we remove the Bloat?

All im looking to do is get rid of the bloat apps that the X comes with. Even if we cant have custom roms, can this still be done? Im coming from an Omnia and i know the only way to get rid of the useless stuff was to flash. Does this work the same way with Android?
Yes Yes i have never had a Android phone before. Very excited about making the switch once the X is released
You will need root access and then use adb to remove apps.
Custom Rom on Motorola Milestone
How to load a custom ROM on your motorola milestone via the unlockr site on youtube was posted yesterday by sjones765, so there's still hope for us. I'm not allowed to paste links so this was the best I could do.
cooley_l said:
How to load a custom ROM on your motorola milestone via the unlockr site on youtube was posted yesterday by sjones765, so there's still hope for us. I'm not allowed to paste links so this was the best I could do.
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Well that's definitely good news... looking for it now...
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That's not what you're looking for. That's just about Nandroid backups - not ROMs. Nandroid backups are just a backup of your System, Data, etc. It lets you manipulate your current system but not flashing a ROM built from the source. (No update.zip's)
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Thnx for the edification Adam , went back to the unlockr and they said it was only for unlocked GSM phones. Thought maybe it was something we could use . Have a HD2 myself and with these forums help I've turned into a flashing junkie,easy with WinMo. I got alot more to learn.
I would also like to know if we can tweak the rom that Motorola gives us with the phone and then put it bake on with the proper signature...would this be possible???
No, not without some kind soul at Motorola giving us their key.
What particular do you wish to remove?
NFS shift can be removed.
Amazon mp3, Blockbuster, and City ID can't be easily removed.
I think I will just keep Skype Mobile.
To be honest, and this is my first android phone, there doesn't seem to be much bloat. I've pretty much ignored all of the motorola stuff and deleted all of the supplied widgets, replacing them with android ones. The only other stuff on there is a few apps. There isn't even any verizon stuff preinstalled, thank jebus.
I like City ID (very handy), and Skype mobile is useful sometimes. The blockbuster and amazon mp3 apps don't hurt me.
scooler said:
To be honest, and this is my first android phone, there doesn't seem to be much bloat. I've pretty much ignored all of the motorola stuff and deleted all of the supplied widgets, replacing them with android ones. The only other stuff on there is a few apps. There isn't even any verizon stuff preinstalled, thank jebus.
I like City ID (very handy), and Skype mobile is useful sometimes. The blockbuster and amazon mp3 apps don't hurt me.
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Yeah, I kind of agree. Outside of CityID, there's nothing I really hate and want to get rid of. Will I ever use Blockbuster or Amazon MP3 store? Probably not, but it doesn't really hurt me to see them on my app list.
How does one remove City ID? I couldn't find a way to do it.
Roland Deschain said:
How does one remove City ID? I couldn't find a way to do it.
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You can't remove Blockbuster, City ID, and Amazon mp3 without root.
SiXiam said:
You can't remove Blockbuster, City ID, and Amazon mp3 without root.
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Can you post instructions please?
tats_06 said:
Can you post instructions please?
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You can't root droid x's yet.
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City ID keeps popping up and asking me if I want to pay for it. I'd like to remove it, but don't see an option for that.
Is that even legal for them to install an extortionist virus on our phones without any way of removal?
I'd rather pay the dev who gets root on this phone.
Here's $10 to anyone who roots the Droid X.
That City ID app is totally uncalled for. But I always expect carriers to put garbage on phones.
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Can you post instructions please?
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Yeah you can't remove them yet, until we get root. I tried doing it with Astro, but it wouldn't let me.
I just demo'd one today at Verizon. There is sooooo much **** on there that I absolutely do NOT want on there. Why did they go so overboard with the UI? The DROID's is pretty vanilla. But damn if the X isn't too much for me..
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I just demo'd one today at Verizon. There is sooooo much **** on there that I absolutely do NOT want on there. Why did they go so overboard with the UI? The DROID's is pretty vanilla. But damn if the X isn't too much for me..
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Like... what? Blockbuster, CityID, NFS Shift? I can't even think of anything else.
Yeah. There really isn't that much **** on there...
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Worthwhile AT&T Apps to keep?

Has anyone given the AT&T apps a good try to see if any of them are good to keep?
I see instructions out there on how to wipe AT&T off of our phone, but haven't seen anybody comment on why they're wiping the apps off besides to "get rid of the AT&T apps".
I'm just wondering if there might not be one or two of the included apps that are actually worthwhile to keep.
I know one I won't be sorry to delete is the mobiTV one. I loaded it up to the welcome screen then had to step away for a couple minutes. When I came back it kindly told me my 2 minute trial was up... LOL nice! So yeah, unless it really is an incredible piece of software worth buying I'll be dumping that one at least.
Many if not all require additional fees and subscriptions, despite free alternatives.
For example, the AT&T navigator app is $10 a month, but Google Maps is free.
There's also the matter of principle... the fact that AT&T made them non-removable is a compelling reason to get rid of them.
The only at&t app worth using is the att my wireless app that you can down load from the market place. It lets you keep track of your minutes usage, data usage, and change your plan.
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behrouz said:
The only at&t app worth using is the att my wireless app that you can down load from the market place. It lets you keep track of your minutes usage, data usage, and change your plan.
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I agree. Funny thing is, that's the only app AT&T didn't preinstall on the phone IIRC. I guess they expect you to pay money for their crappy services by default (or by mistaken clicks), but don't want you to have a way to track it so easily.
MikeyMike01 said:
Many if not all require additional fees and subscriptions, despite free alternatives.
For example, the AT&T navigator app is $10 a month, but Google Maps is free.
There's also the matter of principle... the fact that AT&T made them non-removable is a compelling reason to get rid of them.
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Point...Set...Match
You just staited my two primary reasons.
It is disgusting that AT&T forcefully occupies space on lesser phones with pay apps. Just appalling.
Well ok then, looks like I'll be clearing them all off! lol
i got rid of all my ATT apps lol
sschrupp said:
Has anyone given the AT&T apps a good try to see if any of them are good to keep?
I see instructions out there on how to wipe AT&T off of our phone, but haven't seen anybody comment on why they're wiping the apps off besides to "get rid of the AT&T apps".
I'm just wondering if there might not be one or two of the included apps that are actually worthwhile to keep.
I know one I won't be sorry to delete is the mobiTV one. I loaded it up to the welcome screen then had to step away for a couple minutes. When I came back it kindly told me my 2 minute trial was up... LOL nice! So yeah, unless it really is an incredible piece of software worth buying I'll be dumping that one at least.
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I'm not sure if it's an AT&T app, but the music player that comes on our phone is awesome!
I even started a thread asking if there was a way we could extract it or reinstall it after flashing a different rom. Hah. I like it.
bfgarzilla9k said:
I'm not sure if it's an AT&T app, but the music player that comes on our phone is awesome!
I even started a thread asking if there was a way we could extract it or reinstall it after flashing a different rom. Hah. I like it.
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This is a Samsung app. We'll get it in new ROMS.
Look at about 1:05 on this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3QwvMsBGjE
Yeah I have to say that music app is pretty nice.
Although I just installed one called "Moodagent" that is kind of neat. Haven't had a chance to fully explore it, but it appears to have quite a few features along with the main interface that's a bit gimicky, but cool. It has sliders that you adjust up or down (Sensual, Tender, Happy, Angry, Tempo) and it adjusts the playlist according to the levels you set. Probably old news to everyone else but interesting to me!
everything that is labeled att_nameofprogram is pretty much useless. the other programs like allshare or instant messaging may still be usefull.
Allshare
If you interest in using DLNA, the Allshare app may be a good one to keep. Although, I have one major problem with it: you can only add 1 song at a time to the Queue. What a pain.
But I haven't found any good alternatives yet.
I opened the 'Where' app, and (stupidly) breezed past some part about a monthly charge if I don't cancel. Has anyone else run into this? And if so, do you know how to cancel?
"Where" does AT&T get the idea they can charge for this?
You probably want to call AT&T ASAP to make sure you don't get charged for using the Where app. Also, stop using the included one and download the free one!
Funny story about the Where app:
I had a Nexus One and saw that Where was on a lot of "best app" lists for Android so I went to the market to get it. It was nowhere to be found. After a bit of research, I found some vague explanation about how AT&T had a deal with Where and that they blocked it. This really pissed me off since I paid full price for the N1 with no subsidy from AT&T -- how dare they block apps? Anyway, I found the APK online and installed it.
Later, I rooted my phone and installed the MarketAccess app. Now I could find Where in the Market and installed it from there -- still free of course. When I got the Captivate, the first thing I did was root it. When I saw that Where was pre-installed, I thought "great, now I don't have to jump through hoops to get it." Luckily I saw the warning about being charged, what, $2.99/month to use an app that is free for every user of every other Android phone? I promptly used Titanium Backup to remove the pre-installed version and then used MarketAccess to download the free version from the Market.
The point is that AT&T is really trying hard to charge extra for things that every other Android user gets for free (maps, navigation, Where, etc). Very frustrating. My employer pays for the service on my Captivate and I will be moving my wife's phone (that I pay for) to the Epic 4G at the end of this month after being an AT&T customer for 7 years.
What about AT&T Hot Spots?
I visit Starbucks frequently and occasionally McDonalds. Both offer free WiFi, but require you to check a box and click a button to agree to terms before using it. I know that's not a big deal, but it is a little bit of a hassle especially if I am not planning to use the browser anyway -- I just want to go straight into another app that uses WiFi.
Since I got the Captivate, I've noticed that as soon as I turn on WiFi while at either of these places, I get a notification that says "AT&T Hotspot Detected" or something like that and I am able to use WiFi without having to visit the agreement page in the browser.
Does anyone know whether this app is required for this detection and agreement bypass to function? I have thought about making a backup with Ti Backup, uninstalling, and testing it but am worried that it might not reinstall properly. Also, it might be handy for finding hotspots when traveling -- making it the only useful AT&T pre-installed app.
ATT wifi hotspot app seems to be useful to connect to Attwifi hotspots without having to manually agree to terms
does anyone have a copy of it ?
anilkuj said:
ATT wifi hotspot app seems to be useful to connect to Attwifi hotspots without having to manually agree to terms
does anyone have a copy of it ?
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I have it and will try to make a backup and post it within the next couple of days. It might be Monday before I can do it, unless someone else beats me to the punch.
Update: I still have it on my phone, but it seems that Titaniun Backup only backs up the data, not the APK. I also tried Mybackup Pro with the same result. I have root, so if someone knows how to extract a system app as an APK please let me know. I haven't searched yet, BTW, so if I find out how to do this myself I'll update this post (again).
rajendra82 said:
I agree. Funny thing is, that's the only app AT&T didn't preinstall on the phone IIRC. I guess they expect you to pay money for their crappy services by default (or by mistaken clicks), but don't want you to have a way to track it so easily.
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I swear they are only doing that to mess with us. While it's not hard to completely remove all AT&T ware, it's fairly simple to hide the apps with LauncherPro.
jason531 said:
I have it and will try to make a backup and post it within the next couple of days. It might be Monday before I can do it, unless someone else beats me to the punch.
Update: I still have it on my phone, but it seems that Titaniun Backup only backs up the data, not the APK. I also tried Mybackup Pro with the same result. I have root, so if someone knows how to extract a system app as an APK please let me know. I haven't searched yet, BTW, so if I find out how to do this myself I'll update this post (again).
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Got it! Thanks to:
forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/3319-stock-apps-that-can-be-deleted-post-root/
Here is the APK (zipped). I'm not sure whether you can just install it like any other APK or if you have to use adb to push it to /system/app. If you try it please let me know what worked (if it works).
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Got it! Thanks to:
forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/3319-stock-apps-that-can-be-deleted-post-root/
Here is the APK (zipped). I'm not sure whether you can just install it like any other APK or if you have to use adb to push it to /system/app. If you try it please let me know what worked (if it works).
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thanks jason let me try that, will update soon

Another working apk that is great

In case anyone is a member of AppPla***.net (not sure if I can post the name here) Their apk works fine on the NC and you can download just like you can off the Android Market. Not sure why Android Market wont work on the NC, but this works fine. I have gotten 100's of apks there on my NC.
yes, it works fine.
for those opposed to stealing, just remember all the apps with a line through the price are pirated.
Has anyone verified is there were/are any malicious apps on that site/program.. I've been told some of the permissions on some of the apps were "questionable."
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Has anyone verified is there were/are any malicious apps on that site/program.. I've been told some of the permissions on some of the apps were "questionable."
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Anything illegal has a very large chance of causing damage. Use at your own risk. Best to play it safe and stay away. I just wanted to let people know that the apk did in fact work. Maybe it will help someone create the real Market apk.
Xhorder said:
yes, it works fine.
for those opposed to stealing, just remember all the apps with a line through the price are pirated.
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Also confirmed working. I'm one of those try it,and if I like it, buy it guys so I think this app works out well for honest guys like myself. I'm not into wasting money (not even a little bit), but I will support quality products so this is right up my alley.
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Also confirmed working. I'm one of those try it,and if I like it, buy it guys so I think this app works out well for honest guys like myself. I'm not into wasting money (not even a little bit), but I will support quality products so this is right up my alley.
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I agree. Just wish the real market would get working so I could actually buy the apps I like!
Xhorder said:
I agree. Just wish the real market would get working so I could actually buy the apps I like!
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Yeah I hear you. But this will have to do for now, something is better than nothing. At least we are getting the "Android Market Experience" lol.
Edit: NVM, I'm an idiot who can't follow directions.....
Funny... I installed this App via adb and it doesn't show in my extras... How did you guys get it to appear?
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Funny... I installed this App via adb and it doesn't show in my extras... How did you guys get it to appear?
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Did you restart after installing?
I think it's best we close this just now, before this moves into a full-blown warez discussion. Installing paid apps without paying them is not something this forum condones, nor tolerates the discussion of.
There is progress in using the proper Android market on the device.

Free Paid Apps

Just passing this on, Getjar is giving away more new free apps including tapatalk and Tweet caster pro ! Enjoy happy Halloween
http://www.getjar.com/
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Tried it today, its really cool. You just have to install the getjar app/service, then you can get apps like tapatalk or HockeyNations 2011 for free....that just rocks
Do the apps still work if you get rid of getjar?
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Do the apps still work if you get rid of getjar?
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Yes they do. GetJar has been around for quite some time too, it's kinda cool to see it getting the attention it has been lately.
I've seen alot of members mention this service. Nothing wrong with keeping the service on device is there? Wasnt sure if people were using the service and then taking off their phones or what.
agrred I already use them and they are great!
great. thanks!! always wanted to try tapatalk.
They seem to add new apps weekly so check back in occasionally
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Does anybody know how GetJar apps are updated?
They're not appearing in my Android Market list and I don't see how to do it in the GetJar app....
Will I have to go through Manage Apps->Downloaded Apps->Update every time?
Sorry if this is a silly question, but I've only been using GetJar for a little while.
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Does anybody know how GetJar apps are updated?
They're not appearing in my Android Market list and I don't see how to do it in the GetJar app....
Will I have to go through Manage Apps->Downloaded Apps->Update every time?
Sorry if this is a silly question, but I've only been using GetJar for a little while.
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you can't even update that way because you didn't buy it through market.
getjar apps don't get updates unless the publisher puts them on there, in which case you have to download it manually.
for example, the current version of tapatalk is actually 1.12.7, but getjar only has the 1.12.6 version.
but hey, free stuff is free stuff
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you can't even update that way because you didn't buy it through market.
getjar apps don't get updates unless the publisher puts them on there, in which case you have to download it manually.
for example, the current version of tapatalk is actually 1.12.7, but getjar only has the 1.12.6 version.
but hey, free stuff is free stuff
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good to know, i'm actually new to it too. i knew of it but heard more on twit/all about android. honestly i thought the Gold program was still a paid (like subscription) deal so i never checked it out. but yeah its totally awesome.
as with all alternative app stores, the updating is an issue but they are aware of it and working towards better solutions. right now it really is mainly on the developers who have to push their apps to different stores which is tedious. but yeah, i'm totally into free stuff even if its a version behind. if i need it that bad, i can support the dev and buy it via market.
Is SPB Shell in there? No way in hell I'm paying $15 for a launcher that I'll be bored with in one day.
brrip said:
you can't even update that way because you didn't buy it through market.
getjar apps don't get updates unless the publisher puts them on there, in which case you have to download it manually.
for example, the current version of tapatalk is actually 1.12.7, but getjar only has the 1.12.6 version.
but hey, free stuff is free stuff
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Thank you very much for explaining that. It makes much more sense now...
As best I can tell, it's a great way to try out paid versions - especially when the paid version is more than just ad-free. If I find it worth while (and that it's worth the price to have the most recent version) I'll probably end up paying for the most recent version.
everyone should check out fractoid

interesting app question

Would it be possible to take an apple app and put it on android some way? I bought an app on my phone, and I would get a little more use if it were on my touch pad. Its not available on the place store. Is it all possible to somehow convert it or something?
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Would it be possible to take an apple app and put it on android some way? I bought an app on my phone, and I would get a little more use if it were on my touch pad. Its not available on the place store. Is it all possible to somehow convert it or something?
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No. Or perhaps I should say, not any time soon.
Since posting this, I have found out the app is available on android, and it is like 8 bucks cheaper...
eddytheyeti2 said:
Since posting this, I have found out the app is available on android, and it is like 8 bucks cheaper...
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That's not really a surprise they seem to charge a small fortune for all of there products apps included .
just out of curiosity which app is it?

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