Hey Guys,
I'm on the fence about buying a Vibrant and I'd love some perspective from you guys, the dev community.
I saw the Vibrant, love the screen and overall performance...however, I'm concerned about the future (6-9) months out.
The device is supposed to get Froyo..but what about Gingerbread?
How is the dev-ability of this device? Might there be a custom ROM to 1) have Froyo before Samsung 'blesses us' with it...what about Gingerbread?
Thanks guys - I'm new to this scene and appreciate your perspective.
wrong section. this is not development.
phantasm714 said:
wrong section. this is not development.
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I'm confused...the breadcrumb at the top of the page says:
Samsung Vibrant > Vibrant Android Development
where'd I go wrong?
techcraver said:
Hey Guys,
I'm on the fence about buying a Vibrant and I'd love some perspective from you guys, the dev community.
I saw the Vibrant, love the screen and overall performance...however, I'm concerned about the future (6-9) months out.
The device is supposed to get Froyo..but what about Gingerbread?
How is the dev-ability of this device? Might there be a custom ROM to 1) have Froyo before Samsung 'blesses us' with it...what about Gingerbread?
Thanks guys - I'm new to this scene and appreciate your perspective.
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for future posts like this, belongs better in the general section not the development secion... link below to general
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=709
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such an unhelpful post. If you don't plan on helping, don't bother wasting the time to make a post like this, the only thing it helps is your post count and that means jack..
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I'm confused...the breadcrumb at the top of the page says:
Samsung Vibrant > Vibrant Android Development
where'd I go wrong?
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He means your question is not about development.
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He means your question is not about development.
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ok...part of it was. it was a Q to the devs about the potential to put ROMs on this device.
I read on an Android blog comment that even though the phone has been rooted, that drivers are not 'in the open' so therefore ROMs would not be possible. I'm wanting to fact-check this
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for future posts like this, belongs better in the general section not the development secion... link below to general
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=709
such an unhelpful post. If you don't plan on helping, don't bother wasting the time to make a post like this, the only thing it helps is your post count and that means jack..
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boo hoo. so im not helping. it says RIGHT IN THE FIRST STICKY
"This is Development Section, not General.. Do NOT post questions here.. SEARCH the forum before posting a new thread"
sorry if im a LITTLE callous to people not reading and cluttering up dev.
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ok...part of it was. it was a Q to the devs about the potential to put ROMs on this device.
I read on an Android blog comment that even though the phone has been rooted, that drivers are not 'in the open' so therefore ROMs would not be possible. I'm wanting to fact-check this
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This is wrong. We will DEFINITELY see custom roms for this device.
I'm clapping my hands in joy and excitement
could custom ROMs include the possibility of Froyo, even before Samsung brings it 'officially'?
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I'm clapping my hands in joy and excitement
could custom ROMs include the possibility of Froyo, even before Samsung brings it 'officially'?
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No definitive answer to that, but more than likely. Almost every previous device has either received a custom unreleased or early leaked android build. No worries though, we won't be waiting long for an official 2.2 dump. FYI, this device will eventually get Gingerbread. Google has already reported that all devices running a 1ghz processor will receive Gingerbread. However, don't expect that until AT LEAST the end of the year, possibly later.
I would suspect that we will start seeing Froyo roms come out between the time Samsung releases the "official" froyo rom and T-Mobile pushing said rom to the handsets.
Rooting was available for me even before i purchased the phone. Now i found out, Cyanogen Mod 6 is on the works. I believe that is froyo. Also, Clockwork recovery is as well. I believe we are in good hands. Future looks good so far being the phone out in my hands only 5 days.
ok cool. I was holding back on buying a Vibrant because I don't want to plunk down $500 bones and then have this thing be obsolete when Gingerbread comes out.
I'm still wondering the "open source" status of the driver of Vibrant. Someone said it's closed thus may affect the custom ROM progress? Can anyone elaborate on this a little bit?
CM6 for vibrant is being actively developed right now, its in an alpha0 stage, and should be finished(within a week hopefully) as for Gingerbread, I have no clue whether we will get that working on the vibrant, dont know the requirements, but since the vibrant is the fastest handset currently available, im thinking gingerbread will happen. Also we have plenty of space, plenty of ram, and a 1ghz processor, we'll be seeing dual core handsets at the end of the year/early next year, until then im happy to be getting my vibrant tomorrow shipped to me by tmobile.
some french guy already got froyo working on the galaxy s, its being worked on and will happen.
I'm also very happy tmobile has a Equiptment installment plan for me, since ive been using the G1 since October 08, im very happy to upgrade to this device
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I would suspect that we will start seeing Froyo roms come out between the time Samsung releases the "official" froyo rom and T-Mobile pushing said rom to the handsets.
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Since CM6 is froyo, we'll definitely see that before we see the official froyo rom from samsung. It'll be stock android--just like the nexus one style of look-- but at least it's android 2.2.
Once froyo (touchwiz ui) from samsung is released, we will definitely get a lot of froyo ROMs from our community, or if you're still stock then you can get the official update
Min. requirement for gingerbread.
1 Ghz Processor
512 mb RAM
3.5" Screen
Anybody know exactly how many mb of RAM Galaxy S have?
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Anybody know exactly how many mb of RAM Galaxy S have?
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A simple Google search tells me 512...
So, do people get flamed for posting dev or theme stuff in the GENERAL section? Just pondering...
ryanolson7 said:
Since CM6 is froyo, we'll definitely see that before we see the official froyo rom from samsung. It'll be stock android--just like the nexus one style of look-- but at least it's android 2.2.
Once froyo (touchwiz ui) from samsung is released, we will definitely get a lot of froyo ROMs from our community, or if you're still stock then you can get the official update
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And where would the aforementioned CM6 be?
Related
So now that Google has release the SDK for 2.2 do you think we will start seeing it ported over to our heros?
engadget link: http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/20/android-2-2-sdk-goes-live-developers-likely-unable-to-crash-goo/
yeah, is this even a possibility at all? I'm guessing no since you needed a link from Sprint to get 2.1 on there. Am i right?
Lol would be awesome to see 2.2 on the hero though. now we just need another 3 years for the "Official"[Official]{Official} release of it from sprint lol
I am just waiting for the Evo
yes i think we should see it ported, we have some of the brightest devs here, if people stop insulting them lol i could see the port real soon, believe or not this cdma section has some talent.
Yes you will
will 2.2 work on older devices? i know google said it will work on all new 2010 android phones but i'm curious if it'll work on the hero, moment, g1, etc. i'd say yes.
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Yes you will
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We will see it ported????!?!?!?
Wow, we have had "official" 2.1 for 1 day and already asking for 2.2. Not like it wasnt forseen but it is still funny.
I just want to make a note here:
The 2.2 SDK is not the 2.2 OS Software.
***INSERTING FOOT IN MOUTH*** QuietCB has shut me up about the OS rant that was here.
posted this is gen discussion but thought it was funny enough to post here.
just ask engadget for a 2.2 leak. lol. oops, learn2blur
with the emphasis on Google's wanting to stop the fragmentation of builds out there, i think that our brilliant devs will do it, probably very AOSP-y
I just hope HTC releases a phone with 2.2 soon so we can not only have 2.2, we can have it with Sense.
I want JIT and Sense working together
This may have already been discussed but I couldn't find anything in the search. Has anyone done this or is it even possible to do? Are there any other ways to get 2.2 with sense on the Hero?
Not possible from evo. Its build for a different processor. Best bet will be when the legend gets there official release and gets ported over.
Q&A, not development.
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Q&A, not development.
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Its a question about development but thanks for the useless comment.
so one of my buddies that works at sprint told me august 13th the hero might get an official 2.2 update, i hope he is right
thoughtlesskyle said:
so one of my buddies that works at sprint told me august 13th the hero might get an official 2.2 update, i hope he is right
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and the little birdy on my balcony told me your friend is full of ****!
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so one of my buddies that works at sprint told me august 13th the hero might get an official 2.2 update, i hope he is right
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Except Sprint already stated that the Hero and the Moment aren't getting updates to 2.2
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Its a question about development but thanks for the useless comment.
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Which is why it goes in the Q&A section.... because it's for Questions .... You'll come to understand that we like things orderly around here... Anyway... as been answered, no not possible...
And 2.2 getting to Hero? Hah... no, not happening
Anything is possible. Officially? Probably not. Besides JIT, I cant see it offering anything worthwhile for me personally. I have a computer for junk requiring flash. My hero, currently, is blazing fast and so responsive that Im left thinking about my next touch...my device is always waiting on me.
I want a cdma legend.
Hero won't get an official 2.2 update. Sprint has said so already. That's not to say they won't release an update on August 13, but it won't be 2.2
who cares where this is supposed to be but it's here now. Anyways what really should be asked is whether someone is gonna port the desire 2.2 official rom to busy watching evo
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who cares where this is supposed to be but it's here now. Anyways what really should be asked is whether someone is gonna port the desire 2.2 official rom to busy watching evo
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agreed....
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Hero won't get an official 2.2 update. Sprint has said so already. That's not to say they won't release an update on August 13, but it won't be 2.2
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Knowing Sprint it will be an update back to 1.5.
As far as I know, the closest thing to a fully functional Froyo on the CDMA Hero would be Cyanogenmod 6.
According to this link, the only thing NOT working is the PREVIEW for the camera apps. Otherwise, from what I've read, its an all around stable ROM ready for daily use.. As long as you're not co-dependent on your camera.
I'm thinking of taking the leap today.
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who cares where this is supposed to be but it's here now. Anyways what really should be asked is whether someone is gonna port the desire 2.2 official rom to busy watching evo
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Desire froyo is way to big to be ported. The best chances for a full port of froyo is from a legend build which when it comes out in the next month or so I already know someone who is getting ready for the port. Other than that the home made froyo is all that's gonna work for now.
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As far as I know, the closest thing to a fully functional Froyo on the CDMA Hero would be Cyanogenmod 6.
According to this link, the only thing NOT working is the PREVIEW for the camera apps. Otherwise, from what I've read, its an all around stable ROM ready for daily use.. As long as you're not co-dependent on your camera.
I'm thinking of taking the leap today.
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Been using CM6T4 for over a month as daily... camera preview? Just use camera magic for that and for camcorder... well that's the sacrifice I made to have this phone run waaayyy faster and the battery life last waaayy longer than any other ROM out there
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Which is why it goes in the Q&A section.... because it's for Questions .... You'll come to understand that we like things orderly around here... Anyway... as been answered, no not possible...
And 2.2 getting to Hero? Hah... no, not happening
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Are you serious??? Have you not seen the post for CM6.0.0?
Just so you know, that's Froyo, build FRF91, overclocked to 768mhz. Only thing that doesn't work is flash, b/c it's written for an arm7 processor, not an arm6.
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Are you serious??? Have you not seen the post for CM6.0.0?
Just so you know, that's Froyo, build FRF91, overclocked to 768mhz. Only thing that doesn't work is flash, b/c it's written for an arm7 processor, not an arm6.
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Yes im using FRF91 but I have not seen a reason to upgrade past T4... I am overclocked to 768 and using everything that the new build has.... but again, no reason to upgrade past that.
the new nightly builds have camera preview and camcorder working
Has anyone even seen proof of a real froyo firmware for the captivate? One would think that at least an about screen screenshot showing froyo would have leaked out. Makes me wonder if Samsung has even started working on Froyo for any of the Galaxy S variants.
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I wonder the same thing. It seems were close to Gingerbread releasing. I've been thinking they may not waste the time/money on Froyo and be on the leading edge by having Gingerbread OTA'd
kangi26 said:
I wonder the same thing. It seems were close to Gingerbread releasing. I've been thinking they may not waste the time/money on Froyo and be on the leading edge by having Gingerbread OTA'd
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I dont see that happening but lets hope so.
There haven't been any leaked Captivate specific Froyos. My take on it is that Samsung currently is putting all their development into the I9000, and once they've reached stability, or in Samsung's case the point where they think it's "Good enough" they'll use that existing body of code and port it over for the other SGS variants.
All of the SGS variants (with the exception of the epic) are VERY similar hardware-wise, as you know first hand from running I9000 firmwares on your handset irtehun . Once they have a working framework of Froyo it would be relatively simple for them to make some kernel based modifications and carrier based "bloat" and kick it out the door for the other handsets.
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I dont see that happening but lets hope so.
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I don't see it happening either, but it's good to dream
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There haven't been any leaked Captivate specific Froyos. My take on it is that Samsung currently is putting all their development into the I9000, and once they've reached stability, or in Samsung's case the point where they think it's "Good enough" they'll use that existing body of code and port it over for the other SGS variants.
All of the SGS variants (with the exception of the epic) are VERY similar hardware-wise, as you know first hand from running I9000 firmwares on your handset irtehun . Once they have a working framework of Froyo it would be relatively simple for them to make some kernel based modifications and carrier based "bloat" and kick it out the door for the other handsets.
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I think this is the most likely senario.
Zilch25 said:
There haven't been any leaked Captivate specific Froyos. My take on it is that Samsung currently is putting all their development into the I9000, and once they've reached stability, or in Samsung's case the point where they think it's "Good enough" they'll use that existing body of code and port it over for the other SGS variants.
All of the SGS variants (with the exception of the epic) are VERY similar hardware-wise, as you know first hand from running I9000 firmwares on your handset irtehun . Once they have a working framework of Froyo it would be relatively simple for them to make some kernel based modifications and carrier based "bloat" and kick it out the door for the other handsets.
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I know i just wish a real froyo would leak
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I know i just wish a real froyo would leak
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We'll get our turn, just expect it to be after late October (Assuming they meet that deadline) when they deliver a final version to the I9000
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We'll get our turn, just expect it to be after late October (Assuming they meet that deadline) when they deliver a final version to the I9000
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Yeah figures. =/ I need a froyo fix
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Yeah figures. =/ I need a froyo fix
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Me too. I was running 2.2 on my Tilt for a LONG time, and got use to it, so it's an odd downgrade going to 2.1 for me, even though the Captivate screen is bigger the my entire Tilt phone.
*Edit* Whatever happened to Zilch25 for MOD? I see they haven't made him MOD yet!
kangi26 said:
Me too. I was running 2.2 on my Tilt for a LONG time, and got use to it, so it's an odd downgrade going to 2.1 for me, even though the Captivate screen is bigger the my entire Tilt phone.
*Edit* Whatever happened to Zilch25 for MOD? I see they haven't made him MOD yet!
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Haha there was a 24 hour forums data rollback on Saturday night/Sunday morning so that thread went poof
I can't help but think of the epix my wife had when thinking about Samsung and updates. That phone was slated to get winmo 6.5. Last I checked maybe a month ago it still said coming soon Haha. She ended up having to get rid of that phone because it was so buggy, but I'll never forget the horrible service from Samsung. I got this phone hoping they'd changed with all their promises. We'll see...
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Haha there was a 24 hour forums data rollback on Saturday night/Sunday morning so that thread went poof
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Well then by god, I think we must resurrect that thread!
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Well then by god, I think we must resurrect that thread!
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My official statement is the same as before... I'm staying out of this
Zilch is right. When that rollback happened it deleted my "Zilch for Mod" thread because it had been put up within those 24 hours. Do you guys think I should start it back up again?!
Dare you 10char
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2.2 update for November I read
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2.2 update for November I read
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Thanks for the informative reference.
KCutrer1 said:
Zilch is right. When that rollback happened it deleted my "Zilch for Mod" thread because it had been put up within those 24 hours. Do you guys think I should start it back up again?!
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As someone you are trying to elect for modship, it would be a gross lapse in my duties if I didn't inform you that kangi apparently DID restart a thread in general.
Back to staying out of this though =P
I am confused why there is no Gingerbread ROM out yet for the Nexus One.
Gingerbread is already running on the Droid Eris, but not the N1?
Kinda strange because the N1 is usually one of the first phones to get quick and dirty upgrade when an SDK is released.
I am dying to play around with Gingerbread. Is anybody working on a 2.3 ROM for the N1?
Thanks, and I really appreciate all the hard work folks like you do.
No. Wrong section. Post Questions in the Questions and Answers section
All of the Gingerbread "ports" your finding on other phones are from the SDK and are virtually useless. You wont see gingerbread on the nexus until it either gets leaked or until google publishes the code to AOSP.
download sdk and play with emulator if you're desperate
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download sdk and play with emulator if you're desperate
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Careful, my mom always said too much emulation and you'll go blind.
Cool. Thanks guys. Pretty much what I thought, just wanted to confirm.
Going to delete this post in a couple minutes.
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Every Gingerbread ROM out now is pre-alpha build, with major problems in calling, wifi, and basically are to help people get working on them. Nexus One is about to get 2.3 along with the Nexus S so no one is bothering, plus the open source version is coming soon so why try to port rfe SDK?
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I read somewhere that Samsung has an exclusivity deal with Google to be the first to have a phone with gingerbread. That would explain why they have been so careful not to have any leaks this time around.
No idea when this deal would expire...
So, we must to wait until Google release it ?
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I read somewhere that Samsung has an exclusivity deal with Google to be the first to have a phone with gingerbread. That would explain why they have been so careful not to have any leaks this time around.
No idea when this deal would expire...
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Source?
That still wouldn't explain the lack of a nexus leak. And it doesn't fit Samsung's business model...I mean, hell, the Captivate is still stuck on Eclair!
have tried just about every custom out there with the exception of insanity and darkys roms.
Pondering both for my next flash....anyone have recommendations for which they prefer.
all comments welcome and encouraged but would doubly appreciate feedback from those who have used both.
Several threads like this have already been locked in the past 2 days. Why start another one?
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Several threads like this have already been locked in the past 2 days. Why start another one?
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I apologize if i am in error. I didn't realize there was any problem asking for specific feedback or recommendations on a particular rom or roms.
According to the forum rules what is wrong with my post?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=263#td_post_81
If i am in error please delete thread.
Just look through both Dev threads. That will give you lots of information on what people like about each one. And if you have flashed about everything under the sun flash both because chances are you will eventually.
I was just pointing out that these kinds of threads have been getting closed left and right the past few days. ROM recommendations are really very subjective. No one knows what your requirements are and how a ROM will fit them. What works for one will not necessarily work for all others. And the ROM Dev forum is really a better place to be looking.
I will add that anything i9000 based like Darky's has plusses and minuses. The plus is that you get great HSUPA speed. The downside is you get the EU flavor and features that don't work. Spelling of some things is EU, options for FFC are there but don't work.
There are many other details.... I just hope for the Captivate source/official release soon so we can get a true captivate 2.2 kernel and tools to build from.
Assonance all the way.
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I was just pointing out that these kinds of threads have been getting closed left and right the past few days. ROM recommendations are really very subjective. No one knows what your requirements are and how a ROM will fit them. What works for one will not necessarily work for all others. And the ROM Dev forum is really a better place to be looking.
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1. I was asking for feedback most specifically from people who has used both roms. This wasn't a Whats the best rom ever thread.
2. The developer thread definitely would not have been a place to post this and in my extensive use of the forum and reading and re-reading of the rules i fail to see how this post violates them. So again if i am mistaken...my apologies to all and i beg on the mercy of a mod to just delete the thread. (i have read both threads for the two stated roms....was hoping to hook more direct compare and contrast from users who have played with both.
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Assonance all the way.
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lol have used assonance so i was just looking for feedback and comparison between darkys and insanity.
flashed darkys earlier and its a pretty rom but don't think i am liking it any more than Doc's or Chronus so i may give Insanity a run before going back to chronos or doc's.
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I will add that anything i9000 based like Darky's has plusses and minuses. The plus is that you get great HSUPA speed. The downside is you get the EU flavor and features that don't work. Spelling of some things is EU, options for FFC are there but don't work.
There are many other details.... I just hope for the Captivate source/official release soon so we can get a true captivate 2.2 kernel and tools to build from.
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hey thanks for being one of the first to post feedback thats actually relevant =)
i had went with darkys and what you said is right on. I think i still prefer Chronus Rom and Doc's most recent so will probably flash back to one of them but may give insanity a quick trial before.
So Darky's rom ported over to the Captivate as seen in this thread switches what exactly to make it Captivate-specific...just the modem, kernel and a few GPS-related modifications?
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So Darky's rom ported over to the Captivate as seen in this thread switches what exactly to make it Captivate-specific...just the modem, kernel and a few GPS-related modifications?
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appreciate the link. had already trialed darkys...nice but i went back to chronus 2.0 for now.
funny i had just flashed it when i saw my other favorite rom (doc's) posted an update.
I'd go with the non-racist sounding one.
Should I eat Whopper or chicken sandwich? Which 1 is better? Any recommend? Haha
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Should I eat Whopper or chicken sandwich? Which 1 is better? Any recommend? Haha
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Personally, I am partial to the breaded chicken sandwich with cheese and bacon. It is quite the treat, and you should only eat one per year to avoid heart conditions, lol.
On topic... I've been looking to start venturing into custom ROM's on my Cappy, but I am tempted to wait and see if Cyanogen ever devs their 6 or 7 for Captivate now that they are dev'ing for Nexus S...
I have used pretty much every ROM out there, even the ones that do not make it to the Captivate forum and so far Darkys is my usual go to ROM.
For some reason, when selecting the Gallery images, it is the only one that does not lag before going to the zoom in and out window.
I am not using Lag fixes btw with any 2.2.1 rom.
have had a chance to play with both....no more recommendations needed.
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If Obama is the answer, how stupid was the question?
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Best sig ever
I am on the dark Rom with the 2.2 no oc/uv death and its fantastic. One of the best battery i have had on a Rom.
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