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[Q] Wil Manila 2.5 Sense UI ever run smooth on our HD Blackstone?

Hi there,
Title says everything.
I know that the HD2 Leo has a bigger processor then our HD, but with (lots of) tweaks on Manila 2.5, will it ever be possible that it runs smooth?
I mean, scrolling in photo's and music in landscape modus in manila is too laggy to use now..
I'm not a ROM cooker, so excuse me if this is a silly question.

I don't believe it can ever come close to running as well on the Leo but I've tried a bunch of them and Flashmore runs pretty dang well on it imho. I've played with the Leo and if the speed of it is a 10 on there Flashmore runs at 7 on ours.

Eventually i think it will. imo the last few versions that leaked have improved on speed and stability. Especially browsing pictures in landscape feels quicker by the build so lets hope it will keep improving. Also some focussing on tweaking the drivers of the blackstone could help us keep up with things

Mikenif said:
Eventually i think it will. imo the last few versions that leaked have improved on speed and stability. Especially browsing pictures in landscape feels quicker by the build so lets hope it will keep improving. Also some focussing on tweaking the drivers of the blackstone could help us keep up with things
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Ok, really good to hear! Hope it will then
Else I would almost consider to buy a HD2

I think i've tried all the versions at some point in different ROMS and I have to say it IS getting faster imo.
I think there will alwasy be a gap between how it performs on a LEO to our Blackstone, mainly due to the amount of opitimisation HTC can apply over what the guys here can. Things like graphics drivers and API's.
It is more than usable in the most recent versions and hopefully it will become better and better.
To be honest I think alot of people are going off WM anyway and starting to look at Android as a quicker and smotther OS. At least until WM7 is released...sometime....ahhh...in ummmm let me think....nope 2010 sometime!
Logicalstep

Logicalstep said:
To be honest I think alot of people are going off WM anyway and starting to look at Android as a quicker and smotther OS.
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Doing the same i'm really fed up of winmo sluggishness, even the alpha android builds that are coming from #htc-linux are faster...

Logicalstep said:
To be honest I think alot of people are going off WM anyway and starting to look at Android as a quicker and smotther OS. At least until WM7 is released...sometime....ahhh...in ummmm let me think....nope 2010 sometime!
Logicalstep
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Hmm, maybe android works a lot faster, but I just really like Touchflow, if the animations in landscape music and pictures (and everything else in manila) works flawless, I think I stick to WM and Manila.
Cause in android, you wont have nice animations.. or do you?

the latest builds are getting better and better. all we need is good drivers and little overcloking of the cpu. at 600 Mhz it will be enough to run manilla 2.5 without problems. must say that i tried HD2 and you really need big hands to handle it. our beloved HD has the perfect mensurations.

khanem said:
must say that i tried HD2 and you really need big hands to handle it. our beloved HD has the perfect mensurations.
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totally agree with you! HD2 is way too big for me, I just love the design of our lovely blackstone
otherwise I think I would have bought the HD2..

Mikenif said:
Eventually i think it will. imo the last few versions that leaked have improved on speed and stability. Especially browsing pictures in landscape feels quicker by the build so lets hope it will keep improving. Also some focussing on tweaking the drivers of the blackstone could help us keep up with things
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I hope for the same outcome, but we have to remember that the Leo ROMs were designed for use on the HD2 hence the reason for why they run so smoothly on that device, which has a bigger processor, more RAM, etc.
If I could afford it, the only reason for why I would want to upgrade to the HD2 would be for a potential Windows 7 ROM release - something which is unlikely to happen on the HD in my opinion.
Regards.

Mastoid said:
If I could afford it, the only reason for why I would want to upgrade to the HD2 would be for a potential Windows 7 ROM release - something which is unlikely to happen on the HD in my opinion.
Regards.
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I think the moment Windows 7 will be out for the HD2 (probably at the end of 2010) there will be much better devices on the market than the HD2, so no use if you buy one now

It can't become as smooth as 2.1. It might be improved, yes, 2.5 was very poor on blackstone at first versions, now it's just poor (talking about speed). I think it's windows 6.5's problem rather than manila. For example there is big difference between two topix roms, wm6.5 and wm6.1 (both are manila 2.1).

barisahmet said:
It can't become as smooth as 2.1. It might be improved, yes, 2.5 was very poor on blackstone at first versions, now it's just poor (talking about speed). I think it's windows 6.5's problem rather than manila. For example there is big difference between two topix roms, wm6.5 and wm6.1 (both are manila 2.1).
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so, maybe WM 6.1 with manila 2.5..?
think I rather have a slower manila.. Really don't like WM6.1

Hmm, maybe android works a lot faster, but I just really like Touchflow, if the animations in landscape music and pictures (and everything else in manila) works flawless, I think I stick to WM and Manila.
Cause in android, you wont have nice animations.. or do you?
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Umm yes Android has the lovely animations and they work super smooth on the Hero. the screen transitions from basic settings screen are even nice.
Windows mobile just has that horrible lag when swithcing between any app or screen. The kind of thing the Iphone and android doesn't have.
It may only be a small lag (half a second) but it makes WM look old and slow.
Also you have to remember that the hardware is required by Andorid to have OpenGL ES 2 support, which mean properly implimented drivers. 6.5 doesn;t.
I read alsi that it looks like windows 7 will only support the snapdragon CPU (although I can't see that actually being the case)
Logicalstep

I think Leo is so big!! and its battery could be better.... Our blackstone is the best device...! I think HTC Bravo with Android could be better than our loved Blackstone...
I use leo26 v4 with m2.5.. and I think the manila is running well.. lets wait manila 2.6. and in march wm7!!

barisahmet said:
It can't become as smooth as 2.1. It might be improved, yes, 2.5 was very poor on blackstone at first versions, now it's just poor (talking about speed). I think it's windows 6.5's problem rather than manila. For example there is big difference between two topix roms, wm6.5 and wm6.1 (both are manila 2.1).
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Dude you are running 1,5 OS on your device (wm + manila)...so no wonder why it's lame...just give a try to BlackDragonROM...it's as smooth as manila 2.5 can be...do not know if you will like it...but it's smooth. I also prefer android...had a new motorolla last week in my hands...it was smooth as hell...but the downside was...no apps...just a few google apps. They are all online apps...and I am living new france boarder...so online apps can be really expensive in those regions.

Wait for dualcore processors
Qualcomm will in near future release dual core processors with low power consumption. It can go as fast as 2 GHz!!
http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/11/13/qualcomm.snapdragon.2.core/
http://www.articlesbase.com/busines...lcore-processor-challenges-intel-1367074.html

Kvens said:
Qualcomm will in near future release dual core processors with low power consumption. It can go as fast as 2 GHz!!
http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/11/13/qualcomm.snapdragon.2.core/
http://www.articlesbase.com/busines...lcore-processor-challenges-intel-1367074.html
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i think these are more likely to go in low power laptops/netbooks than a mobile device. 1ghz is more than adequate at this point in time and this is before alot of the stuff is even optimised for a processor of this speed.
about ROMs though, i have to agree with the guy on the first page. the flashmore ROM is seriously a smooth manilla 2.5 wm6.5 rom. it impressed me to the point that ive even left topix 2.8 (arguably the fastest blackstone ROM ever) for it. landscape photo and and music tabs wont ever be smooth as the drivers for the blackstone are such that there is a huge fps drop going from portrait to landscape (think what happens in opera) so even if the blackstone had the power, it is let down by drivers and theres nothing we can do about that.
but yea, an interesting question raised by the OP and im glad i took the time to look around the new manilla 2.5 roms.

Mastoid said:
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Windows 7 ROM release - something which is unlikely to happen on the HD in my opinion.
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Wow you say this in Manilla 2.5 related thread on a ROM cooking forum...
...where WinMo 6.5.3 is available for HD
just saying
anyway back on topic i go
try this, people report Manila speed increase even on HD
also as people say different ROMs work better, the one i currently use works VERY well, i enjoy it

ASK768 said:
about ROMs though, i have to agree with the guy on the first page. the flashmore ROM is seriously a smooth manilla 2.5 wm6.5 rom. it impressed me to the point that ive even left topix 2.8 (arguably the fastest blackstone ROM ever) for it.
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Hmm, think I will give Flashmore a try then
Although..I red that the 1.6 Rev3 don't support the landscape modus in the Photo and Music tab? Cause he deleted the Diamond2 Gsensor configuration..?
Thanks everyone for discussing about this subject
EDIT: So I flashed Flashmore 1.6 Rev3.. Ok, manila is fast, but not faster as Mikenificent 7.0 I did install some 3rd apps to test if it would run fast with them..
So back to Mikenificent 7.0 then

Longterm Day to day stability: UnOff 1.5 or Gtrab?

Hey guys, I'm just looking for the most stable ROM. I'm tired of 6.1's non finger friendly menus and add-on software to correct that. I tend to not flash much as I really don't have the time. When I do flash a ROM, I prefer that it be for the next several months. So in terms of stability, should I be going for UnOff 1.5 or Gtrab's R3 Pure?

826x.blogspot.com

ring-bearer said:
826x.blogspot.com
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I'm weary of the Sense ROMS, I figure that'll just introduce more problems than its worth, not to mention background processes taking up extra RAM, no?

sonus said:
I'm weary of the Sense ROMS, I figure that'll just introduce more problems than its worth, not to mention background processes taking up extra RAM, no?
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+1 for Williyung's ROMs. Most recent without Sense is here, and is very good indeed and I used it for several weeks (before getting bored one evening and one thing lead to another ... )

try Xperia Infinite for me its the best rom i ever had.

sonus said:
I'm weary of the Sense ROMS, I figure that'll just introduce more problems than its worth, not to mention background processes taking up extra RAM, no?
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Willi makes perfect ROMs without Sense. Just scroll down a bit on his page and find the latest.
NRG's ROM without Sense ("Titanium") is also really damn good - there's extra stuff we don't need, and battery life is a tiny bit sub-par, but it's got lots of nice tweaks. I use it day to day. Only bug I found is that camera videos only play with CorePlayer.

826x.blogspot.com is what you need

in my opinion.. it just depends on the user and how the user manages to deal with everyday hassle with his unit..if you just want the "SHOWOFF" material.. then i recomend sense roms..but not the battery hungry ones..
for me i use my unit as simple as a phone..multimedia..net browse..games (if bored)
there are alot of roms to choose from you just have to try and choose what will fill your needs.. or if none of them meet your standards.. then last resort will be cooking your own ROM
i only think of one thing whenever i flash.. it's like you're trying to put and to run a ferrari engine into a BMW or a Benz..

oio_sdk said:
826x.blogspot.com is what you need
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Yes + 1

I tried the Clean Revolution rom lately......
Found it really stable and there is no extra apps wat so ever....

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[Q] Can someone please help recomend a rom - Xperileo Freezing

Hi,
I recently downloaded the Xperileo rom off the xperia-unoff site.
I love the rom, its got a great interface and features. I really like the graphics of this rom and Id like to keep something like this, I think its called sense or manilla. I really dont know though its confusing.
There is one or twos problem however.
1. The phone keeps freezing, requiring me to open the back of it and use the reset button. This is dangerous as if my family calls, I may not receive the call. This absolutely needs fixing. Is there a stable rom that will not freeze or have these problems that has the same type of scrolling or a really nice GUI like this one I am using ?
2. The other problem is that the interface is pretty slow, with text messaging being really slow to respond, and menus freezing for a few seconds.
If someone could recommend a stable but attractive rom I would be very appreciative. Stability and usability are top.
Thanks
Christof

You gotta test yourself a couple of ROMs. That's the best answer.

I've tried almost every rom here.
Energy and Valkyrie are both overbloated and unstable. Xperileo is unstable as well. Almost every rom with manila sense is unstable slow and rendering it almost unusable.
Try the 826x rom, it's the best one and has most stability i've seen in a rom. ♥
Also touch x is pretty good if your looking for absolute speed on manila.

Christopher888 said:
Hi,
I recently downloaded the Xperileo rom off the xperia-unoff site.
I love the rom, its got a great interface and features. I really like the graphics of this rom and Id like to keep something like this, I think its called sense or manilla. I really dont know though its confusing.
There is one or twos problem however.
1. The phone keeps freezing, requiring me to open the back of it and use the reset button. This is dangerous as if my family calls, I may not receive the call. This absolutely needs fixing. Is there a stable rom that will not freeze or have these problems that has the same type of scrolling or a really nice GUI like this one I am using ?
2. The other problem is that the interface is pretty slow, with text messaging being really slow to respond, and menus freezing for a few seconds.
If someone could recommend a stable but attractive rom I would be very appreciative. Stability and usability are top.
Thanks
Christof
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u sound like me a couple of years back..anyways..Wildchild's ROM (Unavailable here on XDA) is by far the most stable Manila (now called Sense UI) ROM.
However if u dont want a Sense UI (HTC phone interface), i would suggest XPURE III OR II.
PM me if u still have problems.
All the best.

the best solution for your problem is use the original r3a rom.fastest rom whithout any bug .stable .I've tried all xda roms,after that I back to r3a rom.

Hi Guys,
Thanks for all the replies I do appreciate it.
It sounds like Manilla is a bit unstable, which is not safe for me.
What about windows 6.5. Whats the most stable or a very stable rom with nice icons? Dont care about the manilla stuff compared to stability. Just need something that never freezes.
Thanks again
Cheers
Christof

You CAN have pretty stable Sense/Manilla interface ROMs.
It's just that they are pretty much hit or miss. One version can be stable and reliable and another, issued 3 days later (and having replaced the earlier version) can be a mess.
I just recently started flashing ROMs and my experiences have been good so far. I have mostly played with the beautiful ENERGY ROMs and some have been good, some bad.
The Sense UI may not be a speed demon, but is gorgeous and works (although something like SPB Mobile Shell might be faster - not as good looking though). But the true differnce for me is in the speed of programs running. For me they work MUCH faster under ENERGY ROMs then on the stock ROM. This is most noticable with my GPS software which was slow, laggy and unstable under stock ROM, while is very reliable and works great under ENERGY ROMs.
My advice is to just find a good ROM that suits you and keep it, rather then enter the constant reflashing cycle. Some Sense ROMs are very stable.

Christopher888 said:
Hi Guys,
Thanks for all the replies I do appreciate it.
It sounds like Manilla is a bit unstable, which is not safe for me.
What about windows 6.5. Whats the most stable or a very stable rom with nice icons? Dont care about the manilla stuff compared to stability. Just need something that never freezes.
Thanks again
Cheers
Christof
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With Sense UI: WildChild's ROM.
Without SEnse UI (Windows 6.5.x) : Russell Eclair XPure II or even III (im using this right now, its pretty good)

circleofomega said:
With Sense UI: WildChild's ROM.
Without SEnse UI (Windows 6.5.x) : Russell Eclair XPure II or even III (im using this right now, its pretty good)
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I find Russell Eclair XPure II to be a little slow compared with jerpelea's X2 port.
The only issue I have with jerpelea's ROM is the first times someone is calling me. I can' answer the phone and I have to pull out the battery. But after 1-2 days it works like a champ (without using Slideview, the X2 addition to panels).
If you want something fast and stable look for a clean ROM (like Laurenti's ROM, 23.08.2010 version used for 2 weeks with no problem, and really fast) or R3A ROM.
Cheers!

cristidotro said:
I find Russell Eclair XPure II to be a little slow compared with jerpelea's X2 port.
The only issue I have with jerpelea's ROM is the first times someone is calling me. I can' answer the phone and I have to pull out the battery. But after 1-2 days it works like a champ (without using Slideview, the X2 addition to panels).
If you want something fast and stable look for a clean ROM (like Laurenti's ROM, 23.08.2010 version used for 2 weeks with no problem, and really fast) or R3A ROM.
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Try the Xpure III with the freeze fix given..It wil solve all your problems...I am using it myself...had the same problem as u..used the freeze fix and flashed XPure III NOT II...

I still maintain that Touch X 10.1 is the best rom out there.
It does exactly what I need. Great battery life, great speed and never had a freeze or SOD with it (EVER!).
Yes the graphics are a little outdated but I am willing to put up with that in exchange for the 3 above.

Lunie said:
I've tried almost every rom here.
Energy and Valkyrie are both overbloated and unstable. Xperileo is unstable as well. Almost every rom with manila sense is unstable slow and rendering it almost unusable.
Try the 826x rom, it's the best one and has most stability i've seen in a rom. ♥
Also touch x is pretty good if your looking for absolute speed on manila.
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It's also freezing every couple of hours ....

Just a Question: Do you hard reset after flashing the phone?

Yes, I always hard reset my phone after flashing.

for me dis ROM 826x WM 6.5.3 build 23680 - Sense 2018 is d fastest & quite stable..u still will exp wit sod once in a while but for me dis rom really worth trying..

xpemedo said:
for me dis ROM 826x WM 6.5.3 build 23680 - Sense 2018 is d fastest
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Thread removed to Q&A as not Rom Dev, please post in the correct section, one other thing, asking "which rom is best?" is like asking a load of guys what is the best beer in the world
Thanks
Badwolve1

[Q] What's the future of Rhodium ROMs?

I've been updating to every single Energy ROM release, but have noticed that they all pretty much are the same. The look and feel is identical. All that changes are available memory, and relative response.
From some brief reading, I gather that WP7 will not be for our phones. So what lies ahead for Rhodium ROMs? Is someone brewing up some fantastic new UI that will be mind blowing? I've just been getting more and more jaded recently, and am looking for something to look forward to!
Anyone else with me on this?

bipinsen said:
I've been updating to every single Energy ROM release, but have noticed that they all pretty much are the same. The look and feel is identical. All that changes are available memory, and relative response.
From some brief reading, I gather that WP7 will not be for our phones. So what lies ahead for Rhodium ROMs? Is someone brewing up some fantastic new UI that will be mind blowing? I've just been getting more and more jaded recently, and am looking for something to look forward to!
Anyone else with me on this?
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Switch to a different ROM if the Energy ones are getting too stale for you. Almost all the ROMs here are going to offer Sense in some form or another. Try out different themes also. There is no chance for WP7 to grace the Rhodium as the minimum hardware specs are not met. Try out Jackos ROMs or Simplicity. both of them offer very good interfaces with few bugs and great support.

what I want to know is when do all these system builds stop?? Like, are people at MSFT plugging away bringing us these new builds every week, or is that just chef's...?
I was hoping that once WP7 came out, there would be a decisive final version for all the chefs to tinker with, then perfect, after a month or so of ironing out the bugs, each chef could have their final rom for the Rhodium, which has probably been the most used out of all these phones..

Hmm ...... show me your fon. what? you're still flashing the latest NRG ROM? how much time do you spend on the net, at XDA? Aha you have ORD! ;-) Anyways, joking aside, I'm praying for the XDANDROID project to add BT functinality, then I'll switch over to Android for good. Is there no way for HTC to legally produce an Android ROM for the Rhodium, now that WP7 is out? Bipinsen - please take a months' holiday from flashing, it'll renew your awe for NRG ROMS. ORD is sweeter the second time around, lol

Try out the Simplicity roms. You won't be disappointed.

dodo2244 said:
Bipinsen - please take a months' holiday from flashing, it'll renew your awe for NRG ROMS. ORD is sweeter the second time around, lol
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Haha. You're asking an addict to quit. Hmm.. good luck!
But you're right. I might need to go away for a while to see that what I have is really good!
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Try out the Simplicity roms. You won't be disappointed.
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NRG also has his ROM with the Simplicity theme built in. I haven't researched it, but is there a reason to flash the Simplicity ROM, and not the NRG ROM with the theme?
The other ROM is Jackos. That has some interesting apps built in.
But I think this brings about what I've been trying to say. CFB hinted at it already - ALL Rhodium ROMs will have Sense in one flavor or another. So is that the be all and end all for all UIs? Should I just flash a base ROM and throw SPB Mobile Shell on top? I suppose the next big thing will really be XDAndroid.

bipinsen said:
NRG also has his ROM with the Simplicity theme built in. I haven't researched it, but is there a reason to flash the Simplicity ROM, and not the NRG ROM with the theme?
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I think you might have simplicity confused with .sencity.
Simplicity is a whole different kind of ROM from Energy. simplicity (as the name implies) is really lightweight, with very few cooked-in apps. Less than 50mb of storage memory used after getting things configured on simplicity. But not as many options as Energy, such as the 5 different Start Menu choices.

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I think you might have simplicity confused with .sencity.
Simplicity is a whole different kind of ROM from Energy. simplicity (as the name implies) is really lightweight, with very few cooked-in apps. Less than 50mb of storage memory used after getting things configured on simplicity. But not as many options as Energy, such as the 5 different Start Menu choices.
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I guess the options are there, they're just floating around in cabs somewhere as opposed to conveniently in Energy ROMs. I think I'll add some links to the simplicity thread
On topic: What's wrong with CHT 2? It really adds a lot to the Sense interface. Other than that I'm not sure there will be anything too revolutionary for the Rhodium. The CPU is lacking, compared to all the newer phones with Snapdragons nowadays. It's still a great phone though, will always be. I have yet to see a QWERTY keyboard on a phone as good as this one!

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I guess the options are there, they're just floating around in cabs somewhere as opposed to conveniently in Energy ROMs. I think I'll add some links to the simplicity thread
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That would be a cool alternative to having the Start Menu alternatives cooked in. I personally could only find CABs for 2 of the 4 Start Menu alternatives that Energy supplies. And not my favorite, "Compact".
Although I have to say, there are still some things that I prefer about the standard Start Menu. So I'm still somewhat torn about whether the Program Memory savings are significant enough for me.

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I think you might have simplicity confused with .sencity.
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You're absolutely right. Rookie mistake on my part.
But if the ROM is really that "simple" then would I be putting something like SPB MS on top of it?
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On topic: What's wrong with CHT 2? It really adds a lot to the Sense interface. Other than that I'm not sure there will be anything too revolutionary for the Rhodium. The CPU is lacking, compared to all the newer phones with Snapdragons nowadays. It's still a great phone though, will always be. I have yet to see a QWERTY keyboard on a phone as good as this one!
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There's nothing "wrong" with CHT 2. But there's nothing that amazing either. I have yet to figure out why my quick links keep rearranging themselves, or getting duplicated. Putting contacts as either quick links or free links don't survive a reboot (the pictures get replaced by generic gray icons). None of the fixes have worked permanently for me.
I mean CHT 2 is basically one giant task scheduler, along with the ability to add free links.
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That would be a cool alternative to having the Start Menu alternatives cooked in. I personally could only find CABs for 2 of the 4 Start Menu alternatives that Energy supplies. And not my favorite, "Compact".
Although I have to say, there are still some things that I prefer about the standard Start Menu. So I'm still somewhat torn about whether the Program Memory savings are significant enough for me.
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I have tried all of NRGs start menu options, and the one that I've liked the best is the "Panel" style. It maintains folder structure, along with icons that are recognizable. The Sense style menu is too laggy - it takes forever for the menu icons to render.

bipinsen said:
You're absolutely right. Rookie mistake on my part.
But if the ROM is really that "simple" then would I be putting something like SPB MS on top of it?
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Simplicity still has Sense. If you run Mobile Shell exclusively, it might be a good idea to flash a ROM that only has Titanium, as you would get some storage memory savings by not having all the Sense/Manila files. Not sure if there is a performance difference at all running Mobile Shell on a Sense ROM with Sense turned off, versus a clean ROM without Sense.

bipinsen said:
There's nothing "wrong" with CHT 2. But there's nothing that amazing either. I have yet to figure out why my quick links keep rearranging themselves, or getting duplicated. Putting contacts as either quick links or free links don't survive a reboot (the pictures get replaced by generic gray icons). None of the fixes have worked permanently for me.
I mean CHT 2 is basically one giant task scheduler, along with the ability to add free links.
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I tried the beta on CHT2.0 on Energy ROM, and did enjoy the features (although I'll agree that 2.0 is more of an evolution of CHT than revolutionary). I liked the free links, the added widgets, and the Android-style 3-screen wide home tab (although that last feature is really not all too different from the multi-level home tab in CHT1.8.5, just swiping in a different direction!).
That said, the 2.0 beta is still too buggy. I had the same problem with quicklinks occasionally disappearing or moving. And fairly frequent restarting of Sense while swiping the home tab side to side. I know there was some discussion on the Energy thread of how to prevent/minimize this by having less objects on the home tab. But the bottom line is CHT2.0 is still beta and still buggy.
I've gone back to CHT 1.8.5 until 2.0 becomes a stable release (and on simplicity ROM now).

redpoint73 said:
That would be a cool alternative to having the Start Menu alternatives cooked in. I personally could only find CABs for 2 of the 4 Start Menu alternatives that Energy supplies. And not my favorite, "Compact".
Although I have to say, there are still some things that I prefer about the standard Start Menu. So I'm still somewhat torn about whether the Program Memory savings are significant enough for me.
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Compact Start Menu is Quick Menu. colossus_r made a nice version of it with all the settings links included.

Since I have so much RAM using the latest Energy ROM, I'm thinking of using ShellSwitcher with SBP Mobile Shell and mskip's WM 7 theme just to get a feel for WM 7's hubs. mskip is also working on a new Droid theme that looks interesting. This might be an easy way to try out new fun stuff.
If I like it, I'll reflash with NRG's Titanium ROM for more speed and memory and dump Sense.

J_M_H said:
Since I have so much RAM using the latest Energy ROM, I'm thinking of using ShellSwitcher with SBP Mobile Shell and mskip's WM 7 theme just to get a feel for WM 7's hubs. mskip is also working on a new Droid theme that looks interesting. This might be an easy way to try out new fun stuff.
If I like it, I'll reflash with NRG's Titanium ROM for more speed and memory and dump Sense.
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Interesting thought. I haven't checked out mskip's themes in a while. Heading over there now...
It might be that theming is the next big thing for the TP2s. The ROMs definitely have reached their limits on features and functionality.

In few months our phones will be a piece of garbage with no further developments
the last and only hope i see as future of winmo6.5 is android project

spb 5.0
I'm waiting for spb 5.0 to come out for the general public, if that every happens..
Have you checked it out ? That, i call mindblowing

0bs3rv3r said:
I'm waiting for spb 5.0 to come out for the general public, if that every happens..
Have you checked it out ? That, i call mindblowing
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I did. But that development has been a disaster. They went from 1GHz spec crap, to now saying that for lower devices the experience will be not as enhanced. And then there are threads that talk about no end-user release for the software. The days of SPB were here, and are now gone.
In other news, I did check out the WP7 theme. Hmm.. nothing that exciting. And things look more confusing than anything else. Android here I come...
Just kidding.

the show stopper said:
In few months our phones will be a piece of garbage with no further developments
the last and only hope i see as future of winmo6.5 is android project
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+1
I'm running Android on my TP2.
All that's needed is Bluetooth, Camera, and usb headphone support.

toadlife said:
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I'm running Android on my TP2.
All that's needed is Bluetooth, Camera, and usb headphone support.
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Pretty much the stuff that makes a smartphone a phone...

[Q] The Best ROM(s) on Touch Pro 2

Hi,
I am a newbie when it comes to smartphones and the rest. And this is exactly why I'd like to know what is/are the best ROM(s) on Touch Pro 2.
I'm currently using Windows Mobile 6.5.
The criteria should be:
- Visual effects
- Responsiveness (speed)
- Ease of use
- Minimal usage of the RAM

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773
this coming also from a newbie, which is using this ROM for a couple of months now. good luck!

There is no "best" ROM. It depends on your individual needs and preferences. Many people here generally frown upon questions like this, because its an insult to the hard work that the chefs do to create the custom ROMs, to recommend one over the other.
At the risk of contradicting myself a bit, I know the choice can be overwhelming for n00bs. So I will just briefly mention my personal experience. I used Energy for a long time, tried Deep Shining, and simplicity is my current favorite. But that doesn't mean that other ROMs are not great also. Valkyrie and Jackos also get lots of good response on these forums.

Thank you very much! I'll read through right away!!!

Oops! I didn't know I was trespassing. However, thank you for understanding me. I'll further my research using the names of ROMs you've given me. Thank you once again!

The fastest ROM I've ever tried was OndraSter's TouchFlo 3D ROM. Its probably the fastest ROM for the TP2.

iamterence said:
The fastest ROM I've ever tried was OndraSter's TouchFlo 3D ROM. Its probably the fastest ROM for the TP2.
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Okay! But is it nice?

iamterence said:
The fastest ROM I've ever tried was OndraSter's TouchFlo 3D ROM. Its probably the fastest ROM for the TP2.
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I haven't try Touch Flo 3D rom But now I 'm running simplicity ROM. I think that 's very good as Redpoit73 said above. if you try I belive that you like it

gueyenono said:
Hi,
I am a newbie when it comes to smartphones and the rest. And this is exactly why I'd like to know what is/are the best ROM(s) on Touch Pro 2.
I'm currently using Windows Mobile 6.5.
The criteria should be:
- Visual effects
- Responsiveness (speed)
- Ease of use
- Minimal usage of the RAM
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Try the JackOS ROM, i'm a fan! It's stable as a rock and he added OCT, so your phone is overclocked to 710Mhz by default.
He is a perfectionist as he wants to minimize memory leaks (read: low mem usage).
I can really recommend his roms
Grtz,
FeareX

I too am new to Windows Mobile and found my ATT Tilt 2 a bit slow.
I've HardSPLed my phone, loaded all the different ROMS from NRG and after running them for quite some time, and screwing with them found that there are things left out that only the stock ROM provides....as in:
GPS
keyboard functions even after loading the keyboard fix it will not retrack.
Widgets that go missing after you have set them up....
Little things.....
I went back to the upgraded ROM form HTC.
I would suggest the same....
There's crudscraper which will free up some space and a couple of cabs that will give you 16 quick links and contacts but.......
I would suggest loading the basic HTC rom and purchasing SPB Shell.
Quite frankly, IT WORKS.
Later....

Go find the ROMs Wildchild builds. They are like stock ROMs but MUCH MUCH more stable and fast. Lean and mean. Link in my sig.

My 2 cents. Tried many over extended period of time from:
- simplest eras2r (but one of the most solid-like-a-rock with a good battery and performance) to
- Energy's huge variety of choices
- Wild Child's
- Simplicity's (was not very simple for me, had a couple of stability issues)
- etc. etc. etc.
Has never had a chance to actually try Jackos's. Just now tried Jackos's full s2 ROM. Flying, tons of storage and program memory, right programs, right layout for me. If this baby is stable, not sure will ever look for something else.

My personal opinion go with latest Jackos ROM, OndraSter did also meke some good ones, but no sense ...

I guess there really isnt too much to say anymore but just to try them all... The only thing i do suggest is making sure you do the "task 29" ( forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649191) between flashes just so u know ur getting the most purity from all ur roms. Different roms offer different things and as u go through there post the objectives of the roms. Another thing i suggest you try is, getting a rom like Jackos S2, disabling sence from the options and trying the android prj. But at the end of the day u find the rom that fits u!

What ROM cooked with Maxsense would you suggest to a newbie like me?