This has been updated to be deodexed+root+busybox only (though it still supports JAC kernel out of the box). At this point there are so many different lag fixes that it's hard to keep up with them all.
What it does have:
ROOT
No .odex files (deodexed)
Newest Busybox
ext manipulation files and libs, so it makes it easier to e2fsck or tune2fsck if you want ext4.
Also thanks to eugene373 for his work in establishing a baseline update.zip without which this would have taken a great deal more work.
Should work in clockwork, doesn't seem to need a wipe. If you have problems, use regular recovery, just rename it to "update.zip" on the root of your sdcard and it should flash just fine.
WARNING:
This should be completely safe. Nonetheless, should loss of job/loss of fertility/nuclear war ensue, I am not responsible.
Instructions:
1. Load the .zip file onto the root of your internal SD card (/sdcard)
2. Using Clockwork recovery, do "Install zip from SD card", then "Choose zip from sdcard", choose the VibrantDeodexed.zip, and choose "Yes"
2b.(ONLY If you don't have Clockwork) rename the download to "update.zip" and place it on the root of your sdcard. Then reboot into recovery and choose "Update packages".
3. (Optional) Flash JAC's kernel with ODIN using the directions specified HERE It is more stable and gets better benchmarks but there do seem to be some issues with the screen taking a while to wake up.
http://www.getyourboneon.com/VibrantDeodexed1_2.zip
NOTE: The first boot takes a long time because it has to dexopt stuff.
Version 1.0:
Just stock and rooted w/busybox
Version 1.1:
Uses the latest version of busybox and comes with support for JAC kernel out of the box (no need to flash the init.d update.zip and supersedes my method if his kernel is flashed.)
Version 1.2:
Updated busybox, added ext tools. Removed all lag fixes, though it will still work with the JAC kernels.
There are so many lag fixes out there at the moment that I didn't want to "lock in" people to a particular one.
Part of the high quadrant score is the 90 million triangles/sec. The data script boosts the data score.
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what is the ext hack? and how does it make the phone faster?
the ext hack puts the data and dalvik cache on the sdcard on an ext2/3 partition...
it brought my quadrant score from 850-950 up to 1400-1500
its like apps2sd but the apps part is still on the phones internal memory...
original link is here for the hack--http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739647
anomalous, thanks for all your hard work...
so if we get a good deodexed rom, someone could compile JIT for our 2.1 right?
junkdruggler said:
the ext hack puts the data and dalvik cache on the sdcard on an ext2/3 partition...
it brought my quadrant score from 850-950 up to 1400-1500
its like apps2sd but the apps part is still on the phones internal memory...
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why does the phone run faster with the data stored externaly? or is it because of the partition type?
im not quite sure, I would have figured our internal mem had a faster transfer rate than an sdcard, but Im on a class 2 and still getting better results... so it cant be a faster transfer rate...
@freedom: put simply, EXT formats run way faster than Fat32, which is what the rest of the storage is.
wiki: EXT3 (common format) and ext4 (latest)
edit: better explanation here
However, I'd most love to see either one of the internal storage (app storage or the other internal) finding a way to be put into EXT3, as that would probably run better than any sdcard.
Just so everyone Knows, the Format via the update script don't work, still trying to find the correct command for it....
But, in clockworkmod, just format the system / data / cache partition's before flashing.
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@freedom: put simply, EXT formats run way faster than Fat32, which is what the rest of the storage is.
wiki: EXT3 (common format) and ext4 (latest)
edit: better explanation here
However, I'd most love to see either one of the internal storage (app storage or the other internal) finding a way to be put into EXT3, as that would probably run better than any sdcard.
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Er, the internal storage is "rfs", samsung's proprietary fs. (And the read/write speed of fat32 tends to be a little faster than ext2, and TONS faster than ext3/4 - journals slow it down in exchange for stability after crashes)
The increase in speed is just that - faster underlying hardware. The onboard "sd card" (same "disk" that /data is partitioned out of) is heartbreakingly slow.
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The increase in speed is just that - faster underlying hardware. The onboard "sd card" (same "disk" that /data is partitioned out of) is heartbreakingly slow.
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Is there an app to test thr transfer speed on the phone? I ask because I have moved my data/dalvik to ext3 on a class 6 sd card. When I benchmark reads from Linux the speed and seek time between internal and my sd are not that great yet the actual performance of the phone is as different as night and day.
I wonder if this is more an issue with the rfs implementation than a hardware speed issue. My other thought is that maybe the benefit comes from having a separate I/O lane for loading data/dalvik. Not sure the hardware actually supports multiple/parallel I/O but it's a theory.
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How did you de-odex the the core.jar? I've unodexed the whole thing myself as well, as well as optimize the heck out of every jpeg, png and gif inside the apks (excluding 9.png's of course) but I'm having an issue deodexing core.jar. Did you just replace it with the one from the deodex'd SGS ROM?
FastKatt said:
Is there an app to test thr transfer speed on the phone? I ask because I have moved my data/dalvik to ext3 on a class 6 sd card. When I benchmark reads from Linux the speed and seek time between internal and my sd are not that great yet the actual performance of the phone is as different as night and day.
I wonder if this is more an issue with the rfs implementation than a hardware speed issue. My other thought is that maybe the benefit comes from having a separate I/O lane for loading data/dalvik. Not sure the hardware actually supports multiple/parallel I/O but it's a theory.
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I'll see what I can do to test it out this afternoon. (If you want to jump the gun, what I'm figuring is finding a static-linked arm version of bonnie++ or similar. Booting recovery, mount data or sdcard - not both - and test. Reboot recovery, test the other one. Maybe test dbdata and external sd as well, but the interesting numbers will be the first two - onboard-with-rfs and onboard-with-vfat..)
ivanmmj said:
How did you de-odex the the core.jar? I've unodexed the whole thing myself as well, as well as optimize the heck out of every jpeg, png and gif inside the apks (excluding 9.png's of course) but I'm having an issue deodexing core.jar. Did you just replace it with the one from the deodex'd SGS ROM?
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Honestly, used the ROM kitchen for most of it; it uses a brute-force approach to sort out dependencies. Only one I had to do manually was TouchWizCalendar.apk (because it needed both twframework.jar and com.google.android.maps.jar). I'll work on getting the update script working during work later today.
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Honestly, used the ROM kitchen for most of it; it uses a brute-force approach to sort out dependencies. Only one I had to do manually was TouchWizCalendar.apk (because it needed both twframework.jar and com.google.android.maps.jar). I'll work on getting the update script working during work later today.
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Which ROM kitchen? I used my own script. Does the ROM boot up and run doing it that way? Should be interesting to play with.
Hmm, got the update script working almost perfect, but now it causes crashes. Seems to be missing dbus.conf.
OP updated - it works.
I did something very noobish.
I formatted the cache, system and data and forgot to throw the update.zip file onto the internal sd card prior to doing this. I can get into the stock recovery but as far as rebooting the phone to put the update on the internal storage I can't do that. I am able to take out the 2g memory (avatar) and load the update.zip on there but, of course, the stock recovery won't recognize that.
Is there a way to put the update.zip onto the internal memory in the position that I am in? Is there anything I can do?
I think I just made a HUGE no-no.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
theMAGNUM said:
I did something very noobish.
I formatted the cache, system and data and forgot to throw the update.zip file onto the internal sd card prior to doing this. I can get into the stock recovery but as far as rebooting the phone to put the update on the internal storage I can't do that. I am able to take out the 2g memory (avatar) and load the update.zip on there but, of course, the stock recovery won't recognize that.
Is there a way to put the update.zip onto the internal memory in the position that I am in? Is there anything I can do?
I think I just made a HUGE no-no.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Have you tried connecting your phone to your computer while at the recovery, and see if you can access it via ADB?
ArbitrageMan said:
Have you tried connecting your phone to your computer while at the recovery, and see if you can access it via ADB?
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No adb shell doesn't find my device
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I bought new SD card i want to wipe my phone completely and install Darkys Rom. I formated my new SD card to ext2 in Ubuntu but my phone didn't recognize the file system. Then i used Clockwork to format my (external) SD card and what i did i formated my internal SD card. I'm completely failed. Can somebody give me step by step tutorial how to format external SD Card to ext2 or ext4. Also i would like to know if i will be able to copy data under windows when the phone is connected through USB.
Thank you
Sorry for my English
Hi! Please tell me why do you want to format your SD card to ext2 or ext4? There is no need for that. Just format it tu FAT and that's it. If you want to apply lagfix then do it under recovery with the lagfix option under advanced features.
Greets from Croatia.
DanXo said:
Hi! Please tell me why do you want to format your SD card to ext2 or ext4? There is no need for that. Just format it tu FAT and that's it. If you want to apply lagfix then do it under recovery with the lagfix option under advanced features.
Greets from Croatia.
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I would like to have option to transfer bigger files than 4GB.
+1
how do I format my external SD card to ext2? I have Samsung Captivate. I got Cygwin, since I use Windows. Does anyone know what commands to type in cygwin?
I want to put files larger than 4GB on my card as well.
I think this will be useful for a lot of people.
I found a thread http://android.modaco.com/content/h...an-i-bind-mount-e-g-system-sd-xxx-sdcard-xxx/
But I am a noob in Linux, and it would be GREAT to have step by step commands I would have to type in to format my external SD card, while its in the phone, etc
Possible problem I see is that the phone might not recognize external card if its ext2/3/4 . We might have to have small FAT32 partition on there as well? Or may be Froyo has that ability...
I'm looking into doing this myself, in my case so I can use symlinks to copy apps "data" folders (not the "data" partition, but the folders in /mnt/sdcard where apps put different things) onto the larger, external sdcard. It seems like it could be possible, just need to make sure the /etc/fstab file is updated properly, and of course make sure your kernel has the ext2 and/or ext4 modules loaded and running (which you probably will if you have a lagfix installed). I will play with this and post back my results here...
I have been looking for this myself for a while aswell, but on 4 different kernels and CWM v2.5 and CWM v3.0, I couldn't find any option on how to change the ext. SD to Ext4. If anyone knows how to then please post it here!
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So, progress report...
Still no success in this matter, although I have learnt a bit today about Android's internal workings. After backing up my system with CWR, I first tried formatting my ext sd card with gparted on my computer. Bad choice... Even though no config files were stored in it as far as I could tell, Android "panicked" and decided to restore all my configs to default, severely crippling my system and making a lot of apps force close when I restarted the phone.
At that point I thought, since it is now broken, might as well play with it So the next thing I tried was formatting my internal sd card (only the vfat partition that gets mounted in /mnt/sdcard) to ext2, but this time using the "busybox mke2fs" command, on the terminal emulator on the phone. This seemed to be successful, and I could read and write to the new ext2 partition, although for some reason, I got the feeling that apps kept resetting their settings (not sure what caused this, didn't really looked into it much). So once that was up and running, I decided to modify the /etc/fstab file, like I would do in a normal linux environment, to automount this partition on boot, as ext2.
At this point I rebooted the phone, but hmm... Android converted the partition back to vfat. Not good. This leads me to believe there must be some kind of "recovery" commands run on startup, in case the system detects the partition is not the default file system, or something along the lines of that. At this point it got kinda late, so I decided to document my progress, restore (which thankfully left my phone the way it was at the beginning of the day) and call it a day.
So, things that I still need to find out:
1) How does the system convert the partition back to vfat on startup and how could I avoid it from doing it? Maybe by having a small vfat partition to fool it into thinking all is good and normal?
2) When I had my partition as ext2, I couldn't see it on my computer when connected via USB (I'm on a linux system so the fs being ext2 is not a problem). Wonder why...
3) If I had a small vfat partition, how would I go about mounting the ext2 partition on the same mount point after the system checks the vfat one? Maybe by binding it? Gotta look into that as well.
4) Finally, have to check why the apps couldn't maintain their settings after a certain amount of time (for example, if I opened terminal emulator and changed the colors, these would stay if I closed and opened the app again right away, but if I closed it for a while, say half an hour, and opened again, it would be back to default...)
I'm on a Galaxy S btw. If anyone has any insight on any of these matters, would be much appreciated!
Any progress? Would really like to use +4 GB files.
morow said:
I would like to have option to transfer bigger files than 4GB.
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It is immpossible because of hardware limitations of the SD card And often if the file is big it just fail!
Hristov1 said:
It is immpossible because of hardware limitations of the SD card And often if the file is big it just fail!
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Not true, read the rest of the thread before u post! Its not a hardware limitation, its because Android uses fat32 as filesystem.
hello everyone,
I just wanted to check to make sure that there is no solution for this 4gb limitation with Android yet? I too have been looking for something besides resizing files.
thanks
uki
I have ext2 on my external 32GB SDCard, just formatted it on my PC and put it in the phone, working without any problems. I just watched a full length 720p movie with DTS sound on my phone without having to re-encode the mkv
I'm using CM7.1 on my phone which auto-mounts the SDCard even with ext2. It won't work on stock ROM, but any kernel that has ext2 support should be able to read ext2-formatted cards but they might not auto-mount the sdcard.
On my PC I had to install a ext2 file system driver (google ext2fsd) for Win7 to be able to read the card when attaching the phone to the PC.
Upgrading/Changing of memory/SD cards while using App2SD?
Here's how.
What you need:
-Rooted
-Drellisdee's ThunderG custom recovery(preferably v1.2)
-Card Reader(Optional)
Steps:
-Boot into recovery
-In recovery menu, select "Backup/Restore" then "Nand + ext backup".(If you are using an ext4 app2sd partition, ThunderG v1.2 is a MUST)
-Now with any means suitable to you, transfer the "nandroid" folder found on your SD to your PC.(the easiest way is to mount USB-ms via recovery, but for some reason this option doesn't work for me)
-Now turn off your phone and insert the NEW SD.
-Boot into recovery again and partition your new SD(for app2sd).
-Now again, with any means suitable to you, transfer the "nandroid" folder you just copied to your PC back to the new SD.
-In recovery menu, select "Backup/Restore" then "Nand restore", choose the file to restore(in most cases, there is only one option)
-Wait for it, now reboot.
-Enjoy!
Custom Recovery
ThunderG v1.2
man! you woke up early for this?
kudos!!!! now everyone can happily change/upgrade their cards...
(the easiest way is to mount USB-ms via recovery, but for some reason this option doesn't work for me)
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now this doesnt seem right... i mean, it has to work.
hhmm.. mine does. im on thunderG too.
maybe youre lacking drivers for it.... have you checked you device manager?
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EDIT ok i get it. i dont have the V1.2 will try to install later on.
maybe the new recovery has the problem.. and not your PC...
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ok ive just installed V1.2 and yes i can confirm that the USB toggle under recovery works for me.
now the next thing to try is upgarade to a higher capacity card... *lol*
nice one Ungaze!
lol, up late seems more like it.
usb-toggle issue might be usb driver related.
havent flashed the firmware yet so i didnt have the need to install the drivers as well.
i also used this method to revert my app2sd partition from ext4 to ext2. so it also works with different partition filesystem, someone can maybe test if it also works with different partition size.
thats backing up and restoring right?
maybe ill try it on ext4...
anyway, why convert back to ext2? is there any significance?
bluviper said:
thats backing up and restoring right?
maybe ill try it on ext4...
anyway, why convert back to ext2? is there any significance?
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was doing a test, and speed-wise there is a slight improvement. about 50 - 80 points on I/O using quadrant. Although really unnoticeable and I don't really rely on quadrant that much, performance seems to be just the same.(OptimusXrom maker domenic_s also uses ext2).
i see.. maybe one time ill try to do ext2.. hehehe
theres not much happening with our O1 today ei?!
so i need to do something... hehehe errr experiment on something...
*lol*
now thats weird.. after rebooting the second time to recovery...
i cant find my files under Flash zip files...
seems like only system folders are installed....
I just used EASEUS Todo Backup to clone old sd card (with partition ext 4, i think) to new sd card.
It copied everything on the old sd card to new sd card and it works flawlessly.
The software is free for home user.
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now thats weird.. after rebooting the second time to recovery...
i cant find my files under Flash zip files...
seems like only system folders are installed....
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are you refering to this step?
-Boot into recovery again and partition your new SD(for app2sd).
which i highly doubt. please explain.
I just used EASEUS Todo Backup to clone old sd card (with partition ext 4, i think) to new sd card.
It copied everything on the old sd card to new sd card and it works flawlessly.
The software is free for home user.
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good for you. just sharing how I did it since changing SDs are becoming pretty common nowadays.
ungaze, after installing the recovery...
and rebooting it via adb, i can still access the files on my sd card. like for example i want to install a new theme etc etc using Flash ZIP menu on V1.2
but after rebooting the second time.
i cant see the files anymore... just folders....
im not into changing cards. but i just want to install something using V1.2 recovery.
and somehow i cannot see my zip files inside Flash ZIP menu.
thats the place to look for when i want to install flashable zips right?
I see, I think I know what you mean.
One of the new features of ThunderG v1.2 recovery is the ability to recognize folders when choosing a zip file to flash. Well that's good, but the problem is that it still doesn't have the option to scroll down when the screen/list is full(or maybe I just havent found out yet). I also had this problem before, so what I did was to make a new folder with a higher alphabetical priority name, eg: "aaflash", "aflashfiles", "1flash" etc so that the folder will always appear at the top. Then I placed all my zip files into that folder and just open the folder when I need to apply something. Try it, the files should appear.
yap. someone told me that too... and so i did.. and yes it can be read...
but we can still consider that a bug.
and i think the author needs to edit that part.
anyhow. its working fine....
What does this do? Is this the way we can move all our apps to sd card??? Please im desperate
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ungaze said:
lol, up late seems more like it.
usb-toggle issue might be usb driver related.
havent flashed the firmware yet so i didnt have the need to install the drivers as well.
i also used this method to revert my app2sd partition from ext4 to ext2. so it also works with different partition filesystem, someone can maybe test if it also works with different partition size.
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could you explain how you converted the ext4 partition into ext2?
victortangocharlie said:
could you explain how you converted the ext4 partition into ext2?
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Actually, I can't really call it a convertion, I just backed up the SD contents, format it, repartition ext2 than put the old contents back in place. Update: Ext2 on optimusXrom's app2sd doesnt seem to work, didn't checked thoroughly and app2sd got disabled. Need to contact domenic on how he did this.
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No, actually ext2 is faster than ext3 ... i don't know how it is to ext4 but i'm using ext2 at the moment.
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Hey ungaze,
Could you tell me how to use apps2sd to move an app to the ext4 partition i have on my phone.
CM7 can make you install apps on the sd card, how does it differ from app2sd or app2ext? i have been trying to decide if i should partition my new sd card or its not necessary. There must be an advantage to have app2ext right?
Thank you.
CM7 basically allows you to move all applications using Froyo's app2sd mode. Even ones that have disabled it (like live wallpapers and widgets as those won't work when installed that way).
app2sdext works differently as it will install apps directly to an ext partition on your sdcard (that you manually have to set up). This functionality is NOT build into CyanogenMod, but is easily added with a number of different apps/scripts. This will give you a lot more free space on your phone, and all apps can be installed there regardless of whether they have widgets or have services running. Most app2sdext options will also give you the option of moving the dalvik cache to the sdcard which will save you a substantial amount of space on your internal memory.
Basically, if you want a lot of memory intensive apps, your only decent option with a Nexus One is an app2sdext solution. (I have it with a 1GB partition, and I will soon either need to resize it or delete apps... adding app2sdext was the second best thing I ever did to my phone behind installing CyanogenMod on it.)
bassmadrigal said:
CM7 basically allows you to move all applications using Froyo's app2sd mode. Even ones that have disabled it (like live wallpapers and widgets as those won't work when installed that way).
app2sdext works differently as it will install apps directly to an ext partition on your sdcard (that you manually have to set up). This functionality is NOT build into CyanogenMod, but is easily added with a number of different apps/scripts. This will give you a lot more free space on your phone, and all apps can be installed there regardless of whether they have widgets or have services running. Most app2sdext options will also give you the option of moving the dalvik cache to the sdcard which will save you a substantial amount of space on your internal memory.
Basically, if you want a lot of memory intensive apps, your only decent option with a Nexus One is an app2sdext solution. (I have it with a 1GB partition, and I will soon either need to resize it or delete apps... adding app2sdext was the second best thing I ever did to my phone behind installing CyanogenMod on it.)
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why didnt i think of that? thank you for your reply... now i should decide whether to do it now or wait till i have reached maybe about a hundred apps. by the way does it have any effect on the speed of the phone if you do that?
I am on cm7 and decided to put cache apps on sd card using ta utility is there any other new apps like that? ta
Can you do this with rooted stock?
lolobabes said:
why didnt i think of that? thank you for your reply... now i should decide whether to do it now or wait till i have reached maybe about a hundred apps. by the way does it have any effect on the speed of the phone if you do that?
I am on cm7 and decided to put cache apps on sd card using ta utility is there any other new apps like that? ta
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I have a class 4 32GB card, and I didn't notice any appreciable difference in speed. I have moved my apps and dalvik cache to the sdcard using DarkTremor's a2sd. I currently have 260 apps installed on my phone, and that is pushing the internal phone space and the 1GB partition I set up for ext. I am about to bug danger-rat for his instructions on how he resized his internal partitions to give the data residing on the phone more space (I will basically shrink the cache partition and I am looking at resizing my ext partition to 1.5GB or 2GB.
I couldn't live without this anymore. I don't know how I went so long without it. It is so nice to just browse the online market and click install on countless apps without worrying about your space.
If you want to try and move the app data (resides in /data/data) to the sdcard, I have heard that it is recommended to have a class 10 card to keep up with speed requirements. I am not sure how many apps support that.
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Can you do this with rooted stock?
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I believe you can. You would have to have a custom recovery. The main thing I am not sure is if it will mount the ext partition. If you have a custom recovery, do a nandroid backup (just in case it doesn't work), flash the zip for DarkTremor, and reboot the phone (the first boot will take longer).
brettbellaire said:
Can you do this with rooted stock?
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yes you can.
bassmadrigal said:
I have a class 4 32GB card, and I didn't notice any appreciable difference in speed. I have moved my apps and dalvik cache to the sdcard using DarkTremor's a2sd. I currently have 260 apps installed on my phone, and that is pushing the internal phone space and the 1GB partition I set up for ext. I am about to bug danger-rat for his instructions on how he resized his internal partitions to give the data residing on the phone more space (I will basically shrink the cache partition and I am looking at resizing my ext partition to 1.5GB or 2GB.
I couldn't live without this anymore. I don't know how I went so long without it. It is so nice to just browse the online market and click install on countless apps without worrying about your space.
If you want to try and move the app data (resides in /data/data) to the sdcard, I have heard that it is recommended to have a class 10 card to keep up with speed requirements. I am not sure how many apps support that.
I believe you can. You would have to have a custom recovery. The main thing I am not sure is if it will mount the ext partition. If you have a custom recovery, do a nandroid backup (just in case it doesn't work), flash the zip for DarkTremor, and reboot the phone (the first boot will take longer).
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thanks for the reply i think i read on darktremors post class 4 will do for the data2sd. I have class 4 16GB sd card would 1GB good for the ext? ty
It really depends on how much you think you will be installing. I did a 1GB partition on mine, but now that I install most of the Amazon free daily apps, that space is dwindling quickly. I have programs that will resize the partition for me, but most will have to wipe the card and partition it manually. I do have the install location set to automatic, so it allows developers to specify whether they want it in the "internal" (really it is on the sdext partition, but to the phone it is internal) or external using the froyo method. The Angry Bird apps all default to install on the sdcard, so my installed app base is even larger than 1GB.
bassmadrigal said:
... adding app2sdext was the second best thing I ever did to my phone behind installing CyanogenMod on it.)
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I second this
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is it true that cwm sets the partition to ext3 by default? unlike in ra recovery where you still need to convert it? ta
I have heard that it creates it in ext3, but right now, DTa2sd is showing that it is a ext2 partition. I can't figure out how to find out for sure while the card is in the phone. Either way, it is getting mounted as an ext2 partition.
temasek said:
I thought CWM will create ext3 by default? Your steps are ok, np.
Anyway when u read the ext partition type in android, most likely u will see ext2 if u are using official DT script cuz of the auto syntax it uses.
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then it maybe so, this was posted on the darktremor thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14134665#post14134665
Well, whether or not it is formatted as an ext3 partition, Android is still mounting mine as an ext2 partition.
Code:
mount | grep ext
NOTE: the "|" is called a pipe. On the keyboard it is the shift option on the backslash key "\". I don't know exactly where it is on the stock keyboard, but on swype it is located under the "D" key when the keyboard has the shift key pressed and you access it by longpressing.
To get your sdcard to ext3, you just need to turn on journaling. You can do this through adb while in the recovery (because you need the partition unmounted to do this).
Code:
adb reboot recovery
adb shell
mount system
e2fsk /dev/block/mmcblk0p2
tune2fs -j /dev/block/mmcblk0p2
reboot
Supposedly Android should auto-mount this as ext3 on boot (which you can check with the first command). At that point, I don't think it will matter what a2sd shows. As the writing of the journal (the big thing with ext3, since it helps minimize write errors on a bad shutdown) is done at the OS level, not the a2sd level.
Hi there,
Is there a way to make the add the internal SD card to the main memmory? So that there would not be an internal SD card anymore?
I do not mean swapping the moutpoints around so my External_SD becomes my primary and my internal my second....
I want to get rid of the internal one alltogether (adding it to main memory).
I figure that I'll have to format the storage in a certain way... would that do it?
Can someone tell me step by step what to do?
I do have CW-mod installed.
I did search the forum, but couldnt find anything conclusive. Just hints that it should be possible...
If there already is a thread where all this is explained, please point me to it, because I couldn't find it.
Thanks,
Pfeffa-rah
I don't think this is possible , never heard of someone who did it
I have no idea how to do that. My question is... why would you want to do that?
Having an internal_sd partition adds the benefit of having big app data (such as those in Gameloft games) sit in a very fast partition and still be called "sddata".
Also, it's mountable via PC so everything in there can still be backed up. So it's best of both worlds really.
This was discussed some time ago in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013575
There were ideas on how to remount the cards at boot. I myself come to the conclusion that since more phones start to behave in this way, app developers will have to start dealing with it. It just sucks they are mostly slow on the uptake. My main problem was the Spotify cache location being hard coded so I resorted to hack the Spotify apk.
PS. salisbury_steak: What is it with people like you that every time someone has a question on how to do something, your immediate response is "But why would you want to do that?!".
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PS. salisbury_steak: What is it with people like you that every time someone has a question on how to do something, your immediate response is "But why would you want to do that?!".
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That was actually an honest question.
I wanted to understand why he wanted to do it. (i.e. What would be the advantages of it.) There was no supposed sarcasm in there.
how about the ability to install 5x more applications?
Having that stupid 5gb partition as sd card and the real sd card as a sub folder is retarded...
My 32GB class 10 cars is a lot faster than the internal one.
The internal 5gb memory is MUCH TOO SMALL!!! Most apps don't allow you to store data on the external card. If you like me and many others install some games that download aditional data + a nav app that downloads maps for europe + some streaming music app like wimp that can cache music for offline play then you are ****ed with LG's setup.
The setup CM7 uses solves the main problem but effectively wastes the 5gb by mounting it at emmc where like 0,0001% of apps are able to access it.
So adding those otherwise wasted 5gb to the main memory would be great. But i have not seen any solution to that yet :-(
Thank you Gensplejs for explaining that to them. I had no idea how to reply to that since it seemed so obvious to me.
This thread was ment to be a question about how to do it and not to discuss the usefullness of it. That is where I lost the way in other threads...
So, thanks for your replys all (realy).
But now, back On-Topic:
How would I do it?
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Please don't blame me if you tried it and you screwed up your phone.. It's your choice...
Well, I don't know if this would work, but this is how I would do it (accepting the fact that I'd loose almost 2GB of /data's free space):
1. Format your internal sd card to the same file system as your /data partition is (ext3 or ext4)
2. Copy every file from /data 1:1 to your sdcard (cp -R /data/* /sdcard)
3. I don't know when and where the partitions are mounted (maybe init.rc??)...anyways change the target there and let /data point to the internal sd card partition (so it is ensured that it is mounted automatically to the new location)
4. Reboot and keep your fingers crossed
I think i figured how to do it in theory. First we need some free space at our microsd to cp /data. Then we should repartition with fdisk /dev/block/mmcblk0p8 and p9 into one partition and change vold.fstab to mount only externalsd at /sdcard as we do when we swap partitions. In theory it should work but i cant test it right now or make a script since ve gone vacations and i dont have a pc to restore in case of error
I agree.. certain apps wont store to sdcard.. its better to use the whole 8gb as phone storage, and use external sdcard as default sdcard.
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What ive found till now is that sd swapping is easy. You can do it by tweaking only vold.fstab. But repatriationing is a pain in the ass. Looks like lg has "faulty" partitions or something and to do it you must mesh up with with almost half partitions.
I had to rebuilt boot lgdrm recovery data and sdcard to make em half work. So it probably isnt worth the trouble. Also I think init.rc is built on the boot. So just remounting internal sd to /data wont work either.
sectors is not space
it says 7996, so thats 8GB
i saw it in hurry. the brain sometimes belives whats he want to belive
sorry
New to XDA
Hello everybody,
I'm new to android and i'm trying to find out how to solve the problem posted in this thread.
I see you've got the awnser but i don't know how to do this.
I've been searching google and XDA for ever but i just can't find the awnser.
Could you make a step by step howto or point out to a post how to do this.
I mean converting your external sd to ext4 and change the mounting points.
I'm a complete nood, i didn't get adb to work on my pc, ext4 recovery is not for the p990 2x.
I've read something abbout changing fstap for swapping te mounting points for sdcard and emmc, witch is also ok for me, but formating to ext4... wel i frankly don't know how to do this.
I'm quite stuk on this.
The only partitioning experience i've got is Gparted in Ubuntu or repartitioning in Windows 7.
Thans in andvance!
Greetz,
JMG
http://android.modaco.com/topic/347...-partitions/page__gopid__1821791#entry1821791
check this
you can expand data partition , but there is a limitation of 1.75gb
Thanks davjan
Thanks davjan,
As far i can see it's indeed not worth it.
I wil have to go on and try to find out how to change the filesystem to ext4 and swap the internal and external sd.
That way i get more usable space instead of a big datastorage witch cannot contain program data.
But thanks for the quick reply.
Jean Michel Gaar said:
Thanks davjan,
As far i can see it's indeed not worth it.
I wil have to go on and try to find out how to change the filesystem to ext4 and swap the internal and external sd.
That way i get more usable space instead of a big datastorage witch cannot contain program data.
But thanks for the quick reply.
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what rom are you using? is your phone rooted?
swapping internal with internal sd is very easy
and most of the roms here on xda are ext4 , if you instal one of them they autoconvert to ext4
Jean Michel Gaar said:
Thanks davjan,
As far i can see it's indeed not worth it.
I wil have to go on and try to find out how to change the filesystem to ext4 and swap the internal and external sd.
That way i get more usable space instead of a big datastorage witch cannot contain program data.
But thanks for the quick reply.
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I you read the link provided you'll see that it makes what you want: grow internal filesystem = lower SDcard usable space. The only thing is that it doesn't seem possible is to use the whole space: system limitation. 75Markus tried high /system and /data values and phone didn't work.
See in his Mediafire Folder, 'Nvflash + guide for changing Partitions:
http://www.mediafire.com/75markus
Ext4 is now common with custom ROMs (in fact all of them).
You should search in sd-ext partition system, which was designed to artificially expand filesystem on older phones using an 'ext' partition. I didn't heard anybody using this on O2X.
If you use CyanogenMod based ROMs, your external card will be mounted ad /sdcard by default.
Switching internal and external SD
Thanks guy's,
I'll check it out.
I've been using cyanogenmod 7.1 stable with vorkkernel 20110208.
But that gave me batterydrains while using maps and nextvid ate the same time (while i'm driving).
Now i'm trying MIUI 1.11.11 with latest swift extreme.
But MIUI is very buggy so i'm thinking of going back to CM.
The only thing is that my phone won't boot with the latest vorkkernel.
peple, i can't believe is so hard to find information about this big problem.
HOW CAN I MOVE INSTALLED APPS TO MY EXTERNAL SD??
I tried all "App2SD" in google play, but looks like Optimus 2x mount its SD in a different way, so what these apps does is move apps to/from internal memory (it is not the same as internal sd??? why 2?) and internal sd.
So i boght a 32GB sd for just videos and mp3???
I googled and found a link talking about "Mod Install Location".
Well, this "Mod Install" doesn't work too. I can't install news apps in external sd nor can i move installed apps.
No one bottered with this situation too???? Is impossible to move installed files in Optimus 2x do the external SD?
install CM7 Custom ROM
siibel said:
install CM7 Custom ROM
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What exactly that does?
But i want to try another ROMs. There is not another way?
Another question about this SD problem: looks like that after flash roms and firwares the internal sd will be totally wiped. Well, so Titanium Backup is useless for Optimus 2x, as it doens't let choose directory for backups. Solution?
presuntinho said:
What exactly that does?
But i want to try another ROMs. There is not another way?
Another question about this SD problem: looks like that after flash roms and firwares the internal sd will be totally wiped. Well, so Titanium Backup is useless for Optimus 2x, as it doens't let choose directory for backups. Solution?
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+1 on CM7. That ROM will render your internal SD useless as EVERYTHING can be thrown to the external SD.
I have Titanium Backup Pro and there's an option to choose the backup location in preferences. I'm pretty sure it's also present in the free version.
(TB is very useful for me. Enough for me to purchase it.)
If you are using app2sd from market to move your application to sdcard, meaning you can do it manually from your application manager, each and every app you click will have a button to move to sd. App2sd market app just simplifies this process. Please note that this method only moves some app files to the sdcard not all of it, it will still leave app dalvik and app user data on the internal memory.
The real app2sd/app2sd+/data2sd that creates a link from your internal phone data partition and relocate your data folder to external sd are script based, and you have to make a ext3/4 partition on your external sdcard in addition to your fat32 partition. This is what you need If you want to totally move all data to external sdcard.
I have not seen ppl making tutorials using this script in o2x forum, because the 1.5gb app space is good for most people, unless if you have alot of games in your phone. For what I know the app2sd+ script is universal for all phones, you may just need to make some modifications to the script to make it work on every specific phone type/model.
About the flashing firmware wiping internal sd, I have not encountered such issue. For what reason do you flash a firmware? I havent tried flashing rom the official way since you can just use cwm to flash rom, but I flash baseband alot of times, no internal sd wipes, but it does wipe data partition.
TB doesn't let you change the backup folder like that. You have to copy the "TitaniumBackup" folder with a few backup files to where ever you want and then the app scans for folders with backups.
salisbury_steak said:
+1 on CM7. That ROM will render your internal SD useless as EVERYTHING can be thrown to the external SD.
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But i will lost the 8 GB of this "internal SD" or i can still use it?
You have games installed in the external SD? They run as faster as in the internal?
Thanks
Chris4evernoob said:
TB doesn't let you change the backup folder like that. You have to copy the "TitaniumBackup" folder with a few backup files to where ever you want and then the app scans for folders with backups.
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After flashing a ROM or firware i just open TB and it will recognize the old backups? I just install TB and then overwrite with the old folder?
Thanks
tablighs said:
If you are using app2sd from market to move your application to sdcard, meaning you can do it manually from your application manager, each and every app you click will have a button to move to sd. App2sd market app just simplifies this process. Please note that this method only moves some app files to the sdcard not all of it, it will still leave app dalvik and app user data on the internal memory.
The real app2sd/app2sd+/data2sd that creates a link from your internal phone data partition and relocate your data folder to external sd are script based, and you have to make a ext3/4 partition on your external sdcard in addition to your fat32 partition. This is what you need If you want to totally move all data to external sdcard.
I have not seen ppl making tutorials using this script in o2x forum, because the 1.5gb app space is good for most people, unless if you have alot of games in your phone. For what I know the app2sd+ script is universal for all phones, you may just need to make some modifications to the script to make it work on every specific phone type/model.
About the flashing firmware wiping internal sd, I have not encountered such issue. For what reason do you flash a firmware? I havent tried flashing rom the official way since you can just use cwm to flash rom, but I flash baseband alot of times, no internal sd wipes, but it does wipe data partition.
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If i use the external sd with ext3/4 using the entire space, i will able to send file using usb, bluetooth, etc? I mean, there is any colateral?
Moving all data to MicroSD make the apps run slowly?
2 big games are enough to almost fill the entire internal memory.
tablighs said:
About the flashing firmware wiping internal sd, I have not encountered such issue. For what reason do you flash a firmware? I havent tried flashing rom the official way since you can just use cwm to flash rom, but I flash baseband alot of times, no internal sd wipes, but it does wipe data partition.
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Well, maybe is my enlglish that is horrible, but that is what i understand reading this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26191714&postcount=3
"Installing this file WILL fully wipe your device, including the Internal SD. Back up!"
So:
1 Changing the ROm will wipe the internal sd?
2 Changing the firware (firmware and baseband are the same thing, correct) will?
presuntinho said:
If i use the external sd with ext3/4 using the entire space, i will able to send file using usb, bluetooth, etc? I mean, there is any colateral?
Moving all data to MicroSD make the apps run slowly?
2 big games are enough to almost fill the entire internal memory.
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If you use app2sd+ script method, everything will function normally. A class 6 or 10 sdcard can perform as fast as your internal phone storage. You may wear your sdcard faster though since it is being regularly used and accessed.
The only problem is to fine the script itself that is specifically customised for o2x, I myself do not know how to do it, although I used it before for my HTC Desire phone, but that was long time ago and the script was integrated in custom roms since htc desire only has 150mb app space.
presuntinho said:
Well, maybe is my enlglish that is horrible, but that is what i understand reading this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26191714&postcount=3
"Installing this file WILL fully wipe your device, including the Internal SD. Back up!"
So:
1 Changing the ROm will wipe the internal sd?
2 Changing the firware (firmware and baseband are the same thing, correct) will?
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Yes, all threads will say that, its just cautionary purposes. I just recently reflashed my baseband to v20c a a month ago using smartflash, it did wipe my rom data, but not my internal sd. But just incase, make a backup of everything, it doesn't hurt to do that.
tablighs said:
If you use app2sd+ script method, everything will function normally..
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but to use apps2sd +script i need to have a partition ext3 or ext4, right? This partition in ext3 will work with usb, bluetooth, etc?
It is a good option to have the enitre microsd in ext3 instead 1 partition in ext3 and 1 in fat32?
Thanks
presuntinho said:
but to use apps2sd +script i need to have a partition ext3 or ext4, right? This partition in ext3 will work with usb, bluetooth, etc?
It is a good option to have the enitre microsd in ext3 instead 1 partition in ext3 and 1 in fat32?
Thanks
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The ext partition will always be mounted for android system, so you cannot access via pc. You need a fat32+ext3/4 partitions combo.
First you need to know how much storage do you need for apps, please note that I think the internal 1.5gb app storage will be left unused if you decide to link your data (which will fool android system thinking it is phone memory) folder to your external sd.
We have talk too much on this topic but I myself is unsure whether you can find the script to run on o2x. Maybe its time for you to take some time on how to actually find and modify one so it works for o2x. I cannot help you on that at all. Keep us posted if you have any progress.
tablighs said:
The ext partition will always be mounted for android system, so you cannot access via pc. You need a fat32+ext3/4 partitions combo.
First you need to know how much storage do you need for apps, please note that I think the internal 1.5gb app storage will be left unused if you decide to link your data (which will fool android system thinking it is phone memory) folder to your external sd.
We have talk too much on this topic but I myself is unsure whether you can find the script to run on o2x. Maybe its time for you to take some time on how to actually find and modify one so it works for o2x. I cannot help you on that at all. Keep us posted if you have any progress.
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But can i alternatively make a backup of big games in the sd so i don't need to download 700 MB every time i want to install it again? As already said Titanium Backup will not do that. I could cut and paste only the backup of the game i want to sd, but Titanium show the name of backups in a way wich is dificult to read among many files. Plus i am not sure TB will backup all data of the game.