Boot control - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've looked at alot of task killers nd system task management. But none of the apps I have tried really genuinely kill apps. The apps often 'recover' from being killed.
Im looking for a way to either permanently kill unwanted apps or kill the offenders at boot of device.
Hope someone has an idea.
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Why do you need a task manager?
Check out this post, I read it, uninstalled my task manager and never looked back
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678205&highlight=task+manager
I know this isn't the answer you were looking for, just my .02

A permanent way to kill unwanted app is uninstalling it. All the rest is described in the link given to you above.

What about stuff you can't install use adb thing I guess. Cheers
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Sorry I meant what about stuff you can't uninstall guess ill have to figure out how to use adb.or whatever it is.
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ninjalandpirate said:
Sorry I meant what about stuff you can't uninstall guess ill have to figure out how to use adb.or whatever it is.
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adb remount
adb shell rm /system/app/com.amazon.mp3.apk

tried this today. couldn't get the commands recognised, not a big issue now as im on cyanogen. cheers

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Best task manager for Nexus S

Just got my Nexus S 4G today and I was wondering what's the best task manager for our phone ... thanks
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Theirs no need for one mate. I was fond of using a task manager on all my phones but on this beats of a device you do not need one.
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lcr44ramirez said:
Theirs no need for one mate. I was fond of using a task manager on all my phones but on this beats of a device you do not need one.
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OK cool thanks for the info man, I'm so use to one coming from a SGS4G
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He's right, you don't need one. Especially third party ones. If you really need to kill a task or two, though, then the built in task manager will do the trick. Just a note though, killing cached tasked doesn't actually free up space (in my experience anyways).
He's right, you don't need one. Especially third party ones. If you really need to kill a task or two, though, then the built in task manager will do the trick. Just a note though, killing cached tasked doesn't actually free up space (in my experience anyways).
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This will sound dumb but how do I get to the built in task manager ... sorry this phone is a bit different than the SGS4G
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Yogi3 said:
This will sound dumb but how do I get to the built in task manager ... sorry this phone is a bit different than the SGS4G
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Menu - Settings - Applications - Manage Applications.
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Rumkeg said:
Menu - Settings - Applications - Manage Applications.
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That's the long way.
Just press menu and choose Manage Applications
Or add a shortcut to it on homescreen.
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Thanks guys for you're help and them what do I do after that?
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On the Running tab you will see all running applications and services. Click the one you want to stop and then click stop.
FYI I have never had a need to do this. You're more likely to harm then good when you go killing tasks in Android 2.2 or higher.
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matt2053 said:
On the Running tab you will see all running applications and services. Click the one you want to stop and then click stop.
FYI I have never had a need to do this. You're more likely to harm then good when you go killing tasks in Android 2.2 or higher.
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Oh OK I did not know this ... and again thanks all of you for you're input I greatly appreciate it
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Yogi3 said:
Just got my Nexus S 4G today and I was wondering what's the best task manager for our phone ... thanks
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I still thinking Advanced Task Killer is a lot simpler since it has a widget that lets me kill all wanted apps on one click.
linushsu said:
I still thinking Advanced Task Killer is a lot simpler since it has a widget that lets me kill all wanted apps on one click.
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Can I ask in what circumstances you do this? I don't understand why people kill applications.
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matt2053 said:
Can I ask in what circumstances you do this? I don't understand why people kill applications.
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if he wants to cripple his phone, let him cripple his phone.
after all, its his choice.... then afterwards, if hes complaining about poor battery life, something not working.. then we'll just sit there and be like "told ya so!"
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Can I ask in what circumstances you do this? I don't understand why people kill applications.
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Usually I kill apps when I feel its getting a bit slow. I do not know why but sometimes my apps use the memory leaving only 50mb left, and that makes the phone laggy and sh*t. Should it be like that? maybe I have virus?
linushsu said:
Usually I kill apps when I feel its getting a bit slow. I do not know why but sometimes my apps use the memory leaving only 50mb left, and that makes the phone laggy and sh*t. Should it be like that? maybe I have virus?
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What do you need that memory for? It is there to be used by your phone, let your phone use it. It does not cause your phone to slow down.
Memory is there so that your phone can load data from storage and get it quickly to the CPU. That is why the memory is there. Android keeps important information in memory. Then it can move it quickly to CPU when needed.
It sounds like you would prefer the phone to not use any of the memory in which case I ask why have memory at all then?
"Free memory" is wasted memory.
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they are right, on 2.2 and up there is never a need for an appkiller. the way the OS is designed its able to keep all its apps in memory, that was one of the primary changes in 2.2 from 2.1. try not using it and see how it runs, just resist the compulsory need to kill apps XD
If you are using cm, you can use long back press to kill foreground app too. Enable in programs, dev
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Try using a BFS kernel, it doesn't kill apps, but gives the app in the foreground more resources
linushsu said:
Usually I kill apps when I feel its getting a bit slow. I do not know why but sometimes my apps use the memory leaving only 50mb left, and that makes the phone laggy and sh*t. Should it be like that? maybe I have virus?
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Please do yourself a favor and read this article -
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
You know it's hard to say. Google TELLS you you shouldn't need a task manager, and if Steve jobs told you this, would you be fuming and flaming Apple?
But seriously, the reason we shouldnt need it is because Google has a decent RAM managing system. But it's not really THAT great. What ends up happening is we play with stuff like minfree and mess with foreground memory usage and stuff. The truth is Google's memory management isn't perfect. That's why we brute force add RAM to our devices goign from 256mb in the Droid to 512mb and to 768mb in some HTC devices and now 1gb in the Atrix and SGS2.
It's pathetic because I come from the 256mb Milestone. Instead of optimizing memory use on an Android device, we have to go overboard. People keep saying task managers aren't necessary, but in Milestone development we mod the hell out of the memory management of Android.
True, task managers and autokilling shouldn't be necessary, but at the same time it won't kill your battery life UNLESS it's doing killing every 5 minutes or something. Once an hour will probably dent your battery life by 1% at most anyway.
The usefulness of task killers is often overstated, but the negatives are often overstated as well.

[Q] how to delete bloatware and free up my internal memory

the post says it all. i am a noob when it comes to bionic and want to free up my memory (internal) what would be the EASIEST way to accomplish this?directions please with sugar on top.
Root Explorer... navigate to /system/app.
I always make a folder on my SD like "SystemApps" then I move what I don't want out to that folder as opposed to just deleting them, just in case I find out something is acting weird or needed.
"Some" of the bloat can be uninstalled via the built in App Manager also.
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This really should not be in the development section. Until we have a way to back everything up via recovery the only way you can do anything like that is through rooting and using Titanium backup. You can either freeze or uninstall any app. I would not uninstall anything without backing it up first. All I have done is freeze some bloatware so I do not have to see it in the app list. You can really f up your phone if you remove the wrongs stuff. A there is a list somewhere of which apps you can freeze without issues.
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Already rooted and you can already back up
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Ok downloaded root explorer but can't create a new folder is read only how do I alter that
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At the top it says r/o read only press it and itll change to r/w read write
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After uninstalling some bloat ware i got a force close when trying to access some of my contacs anyone have a list of what they unistalled? ?
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nrage23 said:
This really should not be in the development section. Until we have a way to back everything up via recovery the only way you can do anything like that is through rooting and using Titanium backup. You can either freeze or uninstall any app. I would not uninstall anything without backing it up first. All I have done is freeze some bloatware so I do not have to see it in the app list. You can really f up your phone if you remove the wrongs stuff. A there is a list somewhere of which apps you can freeze without issues.
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THIS!!!
I am no where near an expert as some of the Devs in these forums, but I went through a lot of ROMs on my old Eris. Every time, though, I had a Nand backup to go to if/when I screwed up.
Now that I have a nice, new, shiny Bionic I will not root until there is an SBF to allow a return to stock. Yep, people like P3Droid, and others, have successfully rooted and debloated. All it takes, though, is some little glitch, power spike or otherwise, to screw things up. Actually, reading a few forums there are more than a few that have already bricked or really hamstrung their $600 phone by just rooting and borking around trying to debloat.
Patience people. Within 2, 3, 4 weeks I'm sure one of our Dev wizards will have a failsafe method ... WITH BACKUP RESTORE CAPABILITIES.
I just group up my apps to eliminate viewing the bloat. My phone is fine. Fools rush in, for sure.
On a side note: I've seen a couple people mention on other forums that they have bricked their phones and committed fraud by returning their smoldering remnants back to Verizon. Slackers.
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THIS!!!
I am no where near an expert as some of the Devs in these forums, but I went through a lot of ROMs on my old Eris. Every time, though, I had a Nand backup to go to if/when I screwed up.
Now that I have a nice, new, shiny Bionic I will not root until there is an SBF to allow a return to stock. Yep, people like P3Droid, and others, have successfully rooted and debloated. All it takes, though, is some little glitch, power spike or otherwise, to screw things up. Actually, reading a few forums there are more than a few that have already bricked or really hamstrung their $600 phone by just rooting and borking around trying to debloat.
Patience people. Within 2, 3, 4 weeks I'm sure one of our Dev wizards will have a failsafe method ... WITH BACKUP RESTORE CAPABILITIES.
I just group up my apps to eliminate viewing the bloat. My phone is fine. Fools rush in, for sure.
On a side note: I've seen a couple people mention on other forums that they have bricked their phones and committed fraud by returning their smoldering remnants back to Verizon. Slackers.
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Wow is this really needed??????? Suck it up and root the stupid thing.............. its a one click process......... if your not willing to take a risk get off XDA
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What did you use to back up your bionic?
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I'm guessing Titanium Backup. But here's my question.... Is it safer to 'freeze' bloatware instead of moving it into a new folder on your SD card?
As long as you don't delete it when you move it then either option is good from my experience worth moto phones
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Ok I have done both renamed bloat files .bak and moved them into their own folder in my sdcard , my question is how do I free up internal memory? When I do either of those sure it removes then from my application drawer but it doesn't free up any memory?
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Bull174 said:
After uninstalling some bloat ware i got a force close when trying to access some of my contacs anyone have a list of what they unistalled? ?
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You may have uninstalled the Yahoo contacts. You can find a System App dump from here: http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/tbh-discussion-forum/9081-droid-bionic-system-dumps-partial.html
Hope this helps
Issemann said:
I'm guessing Titanium Backup. But here's my question.... Is it safer to 'freeze' bloatware instead of moving it into a new folder on your SD card?
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It's always safer to freeze the bloatware. This way if your phone starts to act up, all you have to do is defrost whatever you froze.
That did the trick thanks Idk why Yahoo is tired to that process.
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I deleted a bunch of bloat ware but it doesn't say that I cleared up any internal memory anybody know why?
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I know this is opinionated, but what apps are bloatware? Let's say I have all the apps I want to use already on a backup and I am starting the Bionic clean. What can I uninstall or move that won't mess up the phone?
There is a list of files ok and not ok to delete at androicentral.com check it out great source.
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We've also compiled a list over at AF for your perusal. Messenger13 has added his own commentary as to what he did and did not remove and why.
http://androidforums.com/bionic-all-things-root/411737-froze-stuff-using-tbu.html#post3199282

which apps are safe to delete from system/app

I see in my GO TaskManager EX some general processes running even though i never launched those processes before.
is it safe to disable or delete some apps like Amazon video or Amazom MP3?
which apps are safe to delete from system/app
I am also looking for this info. I want to de-amazon my kindle but I'm worrying that if I'll delete certain apks than it won't boot anymore. Since image backups aren't easy on this tablet yet, I'm really hesitant to delete anything.
Can someone shed some light. I do apologize for waking up an old thread.
Regards, Bart.
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SKORPiO1975 said:
I am also looking for this info. I want to de-amazon my kindle but I'm worrying that if I'll delete certain apks than it won't boot anymore. Since image backups aren't easy on this tablet yet, I'm really hesitant to delete anything.
Can someone shed some light. I do apologize for waking up an old thread.
Regards, Bart.
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Never delete anything, only change its termination. For example add a .bak termination to the file and reset. Then you allways can revert the move.

Verizon media app.

So anyone know how to get around Verizon's root check. I get the following message when trying to watch stuff we've bought using their media manager app.
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Usually you rename the superuser.apk file to something else, like superuser.bk, but this also disables superuser. It would be something you switch every time you want to use the app, then switch back when you're done. Not sure if this works for that Verizon app, but it's how people have gotten around root checks before.
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gk1984 said:
Usually you rename the superuser.apk file to something else, like superuser.bk, but this also disables superuser. It would be something you switch every time you want to use the app, then switch back when you're done. Not sure if this works for that Verizon app, but it's how people have gotten around root checks before.
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Thanks, I'll try that out.
QuiQNeZZ said:
Thanks, I'll try that out.
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It's certainly one solution, but most Superuser apps have a temporary unroot feature that will take care of this for you, which can be a lot safer than monkeying around with your APKs if you don't know what you're doing. There are also some good apps out there that can hide an active root, although it's been some time since I've had to use them.
Rirere said:
It's certainly one solution, but most Superuser apps have a temporary unroot feature that will take care of this for you, which can be a lot safer than monkeying around with your APKs if you don't know what you're doing. There are also some good apps out there that can hide an active root, although it's been some time since I've had to use them.
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I'll have to look into that too when I get home. Thanks.

Stock apps that are safe to remove?

Is there an official/unofficial list of all the system apps that are safe to remove? Trying to free up more space. I've uninstalled a lot already with absolutely no repercussion. I don't want to push my luck.
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Why not try freezing then first if you're worried. Let the phone run for a couple days and if you have no problems then uninstall them. . Time consuming-yes. But safer
I get what you're saying. But I'm sure there's people who have already found out what is and isn't needed. Have you uninstalled bloatware yet? If so, what can you tell me about your findings? If not I'll just keep testing.
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I uninstalled a heap of them, I'll sit down tomorrow and make a list of them, and all was still working well n.a. But what I did find is when Ann updated was released it wouldn't load because it kept looking for certain files to modify. Thanks to JDMederios I was able to reload back to standard and start again.
The crux of it is there is no definitive list. You can uninstall a huge number of bloatware, but I might use app x and all is good. You may use app y and suffer continuous crashes. Everyone uses their phone differently and that makes it hard to give a hard and fast list

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