[Q] Bell's Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant - Possible to unlock Front Facing Camera? - Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey everyone, relatively new user here. This is my first post. I've recently changed from BlackBerry to the Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant offered from Bell. It's a fantastic phone and I don't miss BlackBerry one bit.
A question though regarding the phones front facing camera. I have downloaded a few apps that should be able to utilize the front facing camera in the phone, however it does not look like I am able to use it. My guess is Bell has locked it so customers need to purchase the video chat package they have. Is it possible to unlock this camera some how? I have achieved root on my phone.
I have searched the forums for a possible solution, but I have found nothing.

It's usable out of the box for me - try the mirror app from the market.
Liscadipesce said:
Hey everyone, relatively new user here. This is my first post. I've recently changed from BlackBerry to the Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant offered from Bell. It's a fantastic phone and I don't miss BlackBerry one bit.
A question though regarding the phones front facing camera. I have downloaded a few apps that should be able to utilize the front facing camera in the phone, however it does not look like I am able to use it. My guess is Bell has locked it so customers need to purchase the video chat package they have. Is it possible to unlock this camera some how? I have achieved root on my phone.
I have searched the forums for a possible solution, but I have found nothing.
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plemen said:
It's usable out of the box for me - try the mirror app from the market.
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That mirror app seems to work. Have you been able to get any of the video chat applications (like Fring) to use it? I just can't seem to figure it out. Trying to find a good application to video chat with my cousins and their iPhones.

Fring works fine for me on JM5

^With the front facing camera? Is JM5 one of the North American ROMS or Europe ones?

Fring is broken on the galaxy s. It uses the camera on the back of the phone rather than the front facing one. There is a big thread on their support forums. If you go on the camera there is a self shot mode that uses it.
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xZeDgEx said:
Fring is broken on the galaxy s. It uses the camera on the back of the phone rather than the front facing one. There is a big thread on their support forums. If you go on the camera there is a self shot mode that uses it.
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Is there no way to use the front camera in an actual video chat capacity... short of paying Bell?

There isn't even a way to pay bell to use it.
This thread is barking up the wrong tree, it is not Bells fault that fring is broken. Complain to fring that is what I did. They say they are working on it, but its two weeks now with no feedback.
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that blows my mind samsung would make a phone with a front facing camera with no real capability to use it.

Er, the stock camera app works just fine...
Samsung does not make the video chat software, nor should they. If they did you would likely end up with the crippled bs that is Apple factetime.
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If you don't mind using plain SIP VoIP for video chat (your friends will need to use a similar app or hunt around for SIP to whatever (Skype, MSN, etc) gateways, you may want to have a look at Sipdroid by i.p.tel (website, AppBrain link). It should support switching between front and back cameras from the video preview.
Their demo video shows video call working, but last time I tried it on my Galaxy S, the app crashed as soon as I chose send video.
Don't let that put you down, Sipdroid is open source and the outfit that supports it is much smaller and more agile than the big mastodonts like Skype&Co and their staff and community seem pretty keen on making it work well, so if you have problems, just report them on the bug tracker.

miki4242 said:
If you don't mind using plain SIP VoIP for video chat (your friends will need to use a similar app or hunt around for SIP to whatever (Skype, MSN, etc) gateways, you may want to have a look at Sipdroid by i.p.tel (website, AppBrain link).
Their demo video shows video call working, but last time I tried it on my Galaxy S, the app crashed as soon as I chose send video.
Don't let that put you down, Sipdroid is open source and the outfit that supports it is much smaller and more agile than the big mastodonts like Skype&Co and their staff and community seem pretty keen on making it work well, so if you have problems, just report them on the bug tracker.
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Sipdroid routes audio through the back speaker, not the earpiece... which makes it unusable.

This is a known issue (link).
If it affects you, maybe you can add your comment to it so the devs may take notice. If you are a developer or know someone who is, maybe you can even help fix the problem

xZeDgEx said:
Fring is broken on the galaxy s. It uses the camera on the back of the phone rather than the front facing one. There is a big thread on their support forums. If you go on the camera there is a self shot mode that uses it.
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Download the newest version of Fring, they fixed a but that was locking the phone when it uses the back camera

Its not fixed. It uses the back camera. Try it yourself.
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scouzer said:
that blows my mind samsung would make a phone with a front facing camera with no real capability to use it.
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Dude you need to read these posts better, this has nothing to do with Samsung as the camera works fine in several apps as many people have posted. There is currently a problem with FRING (FRING NOT SAMSUNG/BELL) that defaults the video chat to the back camera, if you check around you will see this is a well documented problem that Fring is working on.

i have used fring on sgs, to make video calls and it works with data plan or wifi. fring to fring users can make calls between each other , skype support has been taken out.

I am on a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant SGH-T959, and the hardware is clearly present.
It appears as though the hardware is there. There are two small sensors, front-facing on the top left hand corner. The one just to the right is oblong and appears to be the ambient light sensor, and the other to the left is circular and looks like a camera lens. So is this another case similar to the 802.11n & FM Tuner being disabled until the release of Froyo?

agelewei said:
I am on a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant SGH-T959, and the hardware is clearly present.
It appears as though the hardware is there. There are two small sensors, front-facing on the top left hand corner. The one just to the right is oblong and appears to be the ambient light sensor, and the other to the left is circular and looks like a camera lens. So is this another case similar to the 802.11n & FM Tuner being disabled until the release of Froyo?
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No those are the light sensor and proximity sensors. The camera is off to the right on the i9000.
Fring works fine for my front camera on JM5 and now JM6. When using the stock Bell FW though it would only use the back one.

@deception: so you can confirm that fring works on front cam with JM5 firmware? are you using a Bell galaxy s?
coz i am currently on JH2 and it only uses the back camera. if so, i'll try flashing to JM5 when i get home...
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[Q] voice call recorder - is there an app for that???

I'm looking for an application which will allow me to record voice calls (input and output).
I'm using samsung galaxy S with 2.2 Froyo.
Tried to look for one in here, but didn't find one that would fit my phone.
I even googled it, and didn't find anything appropriate.
If someone has some app that is confirmed as working - plz post the name/apk.
PLZ HLP!
Thanx!
Search 'record call' on appbrain. Quite some results.
Nothing working yet to my knowledge (for our phone that is)...
I dont know if we have hardware for it. But theres claims from ppl who say theres software on the korean sgs. But u got to rem that phone is totally dif as no ones have been able to flash any roms on it yet. Closest thing i can think of is use speaker mode and any recording app
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http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2117
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From the link you gave here, I understand this is a well known issue.
So are you saying there is still no solution for that???
(I had this option on my oldest nokia 6680 I think not to mention 6120).
Wow... that kinda' sucks.
Did you guys check this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=806451
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Can anybody provide the korean phone application?
arshadaziz said:
Did you guys check this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=806451
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I looked into this some time ago. Some android phones will allow you to record both sides of the call. It would seem that with most android phones, you can only record your side of the conversation. It may be a bug in Android since there is apparently the functionality that allows recording calls. On the other hand, it could also be a hardware issue where the incoming voice stream is not accessible to the OS, so there is no way to record it unless you use an external recording device. The Hero for example use the Qualcomm MSM 7200A which has the baseband chip integrated into the main application processor. The Galaxy S has a separate baseband chip. Depending on how the incoming voice stream is handled on the hardware level, it is possible that android OS has no direct access to the voice stream since that is handled by the baseband cpu.
Anyways, after spending a few hours reading up on this topic, voice recording is possible on some android handsets, and not others. I was using the nexus one when I was looking into this (interestingly, the nexus one snapdragon has an integrated baseband like the Hero). Most solutions meant using the phone in speakerphone to record both sides of the conversation which is not a great solution in my opinion.
That's the extent of my research. It's something that would be useful to me, but not something that I have a strong need for. If anyone has a working solution for the Galaxy S, please share!

Video calling?

I've had my Incredible S for 3 days now and I absolutely love it.
It's my first Android phone so I'm still learning my way around, but one thing I can't find anywhere is video calling. Can someone please tell me how i start a video call?
Dont think its possible at the moment....the incredible S packs a front vga camera in preparation for android 2.3/3 as i believe google will roll out their next update with video calling as their new feature
I downloaded the Skype app too but there doesnt seem to be an option for a cam on that either. Maybe that is dependant on the OS too as I'm sure I read somewhere that video calling was possible with Skype.
No option for sending video on Skype for me either, but Video calling using Tango is great (except for some reason my send video is upside down !). Tango is great, and its cross platform.
menov321 said:
Dont think its possible at the moment....the incredible S packs a front vga camera in preparation for android 2.3/3 as i believe google will roll out their next update with video calling as their new feature
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So Froyo doesn't support video calling?
I can't believe they shipped the phone knowing that one of its main features would be unusable.
I guess i'll have to wait for the Q2 update.
Out of curiosity, is there any way to access the front-facing camera just for taking photos etc?
jazzywheelz said:
So Froyo doesn't support video calling?
I can't believe they shipped the phone knowing that one of its main features would be unusable.
I guess i'll have to wait for the Q2 update.
Out of curiosity, is there any way to access the front-facing camera just for taking photos etc?
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Yes, You can go into the camera app & click on settings. There is an option there to switch to front facing camera.
There's many programs to make video call.
Search on market for:
oovoo
fring
tango
yahoo messenger
I just got my incredible s for a day and I download named tmboile qik app from market it can making video chat I just video chat with my friend working find but it need both have that app installed in the phone.
Yeah sorry I meant officially on stock applications....not supported yet.....
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I also bought a HTC Incredible S apart from my DHD and HD7
According t my research HTC itself is coming soon with a new Video Chat application. I look forward to it !!!!!!!

Would we ever be able to use the front camera as a web cam?

I wonder, will it ever be possible to use the front camera as a webcam on Apps like paltalk, or in tinychat, or any type of video chats? Does anybody know if it's possible or even likely to happen or not? Just a question from me too somebody much smarter than me. By the way, I tried it on various video chat rooms and no go.
Thanks to anyone who answers,
Knotrkr
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Well you have a SGT, why not load up the software and give it a try. Then report back what the results were.

[D] fake front camera!

Hello,
With Linux, I feel free of any limits so I imagine some crazy things to do.
I think we can link (ln -s) the driver file of back camera in place of front camera to fake the system and applications.
Why? That will allow us (as I expect) make 3G video calls and join hangouts in Google+ and maybe unlock phone by face in CM9.
What is your opinion? Is this possible or not? Why?
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I think it's logically able to do. And maybe already available somewhere else (I've heard somewhere about video call using rear camera, but not really interested).
It's possible because it's actually same camera with (usually) different quality.
but it won't be comfortable using rare camera as front camera as we can't see who's we're talking to or they won't be able to see us.
or, when unlocking the phone, we can't see actually where the camera shots. is it right on our face or not. will be a little bit tricky to use.
but if you can do it, I think a lot of people will like it.
lonestrider said:
I think it's logically able to do. And maybe already available somewhere else (I've heard somewhere about video call using rear camera, but not really interested).
It's possible because it's actually same camera with (usually) different quality.
but it won't be comfortable using rare camera as front camera as we can't see who's we're talking to or they won't be able to see us.
or, when unlocking the phone, we can't see actually where the camera shots. is it right on our face or not. will be a little bit tricky to use.
but if you can do it, I think a lot of people will like it.
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Most of video calls for rear camera depends on the Internet like Yahoo Messenger and Fring. But no native 3G calls.
In video calls we can do what we did with Nokia 6630 (As I remember) by standing up in front a mirror.
In face unlock you will face some difficults in the start but you will be used to do this easily after (it's a trick anyway that you can be proud of using it in Android in front of your friends )
We need an expert developer to help us defining the exact files to be linked.. and where?
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Remote Viewfinder

I am trying to get the remote viewfinder app provided by Samsung on Google Play Store to work with this camera (linking up to my Galaxy Note II) but it just doesn't work.
Spent some time talking to a tech support guy at Samsung, but although he was friendly, he didn't have any knowledge of this model (!)
Has anyone managed to get this feature working?
Apparently the EK-GCAM100 is not on the list of supported devices. Wait for a bit and the software may be updated. This is for Samsung's lineup of smart cameras(wifi-enabled basic camera) not Galaxy Cameras.
AdamOutler said:
Apparently the EK-GCAM100 is not on the list of supported devices. Wait for a bit and the software may be updated. This is for Samsung's lineup of smart cameras(wifi-enabled basic camera) not Galaxy Cameras.
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Thanks Adam, I did see them using a Galaxy S3 in the Ads to control the camera, so I guess it's an upcoming feature. Hope it's not too long as this was one of the features I really need.
Glad I'm Not The Only One
I've been trying to figure out how to control the SG Camera with my SGIII as well. Hope this is added to the remote viewfinder app soon.
jednc said:
I've been trying to figure out how to control the SG Camera with my SGIII as well. Hope this is added to the remote viewfinder app soon.
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There is an app called Camera Remote https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.busywww.cameraremote on the Play Store, it does work with this camera but is not wholly reliable and has crashed a couple of times. I was told by Samsung tech support that the official app will support this camera soon though.
Remote Viewfinder feature now available
apprentice said:
I am trying to get the remote viewfinder app provided by Samsung on Google Play Store to work with this camera (linking up to my Galaxy Note II) but it just doesn't work.
Spent some time talking to a tech support guy at Samsung, but although he was friendly, he didn't have any knowledge of this model (!)
Has anyone managed to get this feature working?
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I too have been trying to find this feature. I purposely bought this camera because of this feature (& others). I recently updated over the air on my camera to Android version 4.1.2 from 4.1.1. Now in the camera app under the share menu, is the 'Remote viewfinder' feature. I select this and it asks me to connect my smartphone to the Wi-Fi hotspot that it's created so it can open the app on my phone. I do this but nothing happens. Any idea's what is wrong? My phone is the Galaxy S3. But atleast the feature IS now on the camera, it just won't work on mine.
I noticed the option appears on the camera since updating the ROM. I tried to get this working with no success. I believe the Remote Viewfinder app that Samsung have in the Play Store needs updating. If we raise a support ticket on their website as I have done they may start looking into it sooner.
I really want this feature badly too.
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I've raised a ticket too I'm holding off on buying the camera until I know remote viewfinder will work with my note 2 and the galaxy camera
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I have the same issue.
whenI connect the S3 to the AP of GC it just doesn't work.
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Did you tried the new Samsung Smart Camera App?
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Did you tried the new Samsung Smart Camera App?
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no. did you ?
I don't even understand on which device I should install this new app. the camera or the phone ?
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I just installed the new app on my S3. But the result didn't change.
On the controller, in your case the S3.
I don't have 4.1.2 on my cam yet.
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On the controller, in your case the S3.
I don't have 4.1.2 on my cam yet.
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installed it on my S3 with no luck.
then installed it on my Note. again, no luck...
doesn't work
why...
I've upgraded my cam to 4.1.2 and no luck either.
Neither with Samsung Viewfinder app, nor with Samsung Smart Camera app.
Damn Samsung, what's the matter?
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any news about this yet ?
I submitted a support ticket to Samsung on their website. They replied quickly stating it had been escalated to the development team responsible for this particular model and would keep me informed. I will update here when I get any further news.
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it's weird that Samsung can not find a quick solution to this problem.
Both devices are their production (SIII and GC)
Just found that there is an update avaliable for the 'Remote Viewfinder' app in the Play Store. But in the 'What's New' box it just states: "Improved compatibility for smart phone". Which is rather vague. I updated and I still cannot get it to work. Just thought I'd let you know. Anybody else have anything to add?
Report it!
Anyone wishing to be able to use this feature should head over to Samsung's support pages and add a support ticket. If enough people vent their frustration over this then maybe something will get done. After all, the "Share to Remote Viewfinder" is an option when taking pictures with this camera so it SHOULD work.
I raised the issue and got this reply:
"Thank you for contacting Samsung.
I am sorry your camera is not working with the Remote Viewfinder, I
understand this is frustrating if my colleagues on the phone support
were meant to get back to you.
I have raised the problem with our product specialist who will deal
directly with Samsung HQ on getting this problem solved, he has promised
to get back to me as soon as possible.
I would ask that you be patient with us and email back in approximately
one week so that we can update you on the situation.
I apologise for the inconvenience this has caused."
A week has passed so I will be chasing it up.
So get your support request in too today! .. http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/model/EK-GC100ZWABTU

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