Breaking news available via my twitter feed or #vibrantFFC
FFC works in 2.1 with Bionix 1.6. No video calling available yet, but FFC does work.
10/8: There are a lot of changes coming to this thread over the next 12-24 hours. This has turned into a thread with too many functions that is cluttering each other. Due to this, and a few requests from our moderators, I feel I need to make these changes before continuing too much further.
This was originally intended to be a thread on making an FFC work, and getting the expected use out of it, both on the hardware side, as well as some needed software development. I have been asked to move the purchasing buddy system to another thread in Vibrant general as well as a couple other things. I will have these all set up tomorrow.
I would like to apologize for being a bit silent recently. I had been called to take on some projects out of town for work, and just got back into town last night. I have been trying to pack for my move since, and still have some more to do.
Beyond this, I have good news. The first shipment has been ordered with expedited shipping. Should have it in hand by the end of the week. Details for those that have sent pms will be sent out tomorrow to give you details of a private buy it now ebay auction for presales of the first shipment. Once those people have been taken care of, or the shipment arrives, the single item purchase will be open to everyone.
Unfortunately, selling on amazon does not look like it can happen at this time. Once I can get past a couple hurdles, it should be good to go.
Thanks guys. Can't wait to hear everyone talking about their FFC's on their vibrants...
10/5 pm:
Hey guys,
I have gotten a lot of feedback from people interested in the FFC mod, and the wholesaler keeps changing the minimum order like a douche (10/6: Talked to the owner today - He's pretty cool, not a douche, but MOQ will stay set at 3 from now on). So, I am setting up an account on Amazon to sell them individually. The price is going to be about 30.00 bucks (It basically covers the units + wholesaler shipping, Amazon retail account, warehouse storage, and fulfillment services - with a little left over for beer) per unit plus shipping. If you are interested and haven’t contacted me yet, please PM me so I can order enough units to cover everybody.
Also, Amazon has free shipping with a Prime Account. For people who don’t know, you can sign up for a free Prime Account if you have a valid college email address (anything that ends with .edu). The signup page is a little hard to find, so here you go.
To those who have already pm'ed me: I will be sending individual pm's as soon as this is all set up, thanks.
10/5:
Sorry all, I have had a tight schedule the last few days... I will have more info very soon regarding the Amazon stock. Thanks for your patience and showing interest!
10/3:
With the supplier upping the minimum order quantity to three already, I wouldn't put it past them to increase again. With that said, I am looking into a way to do a large purchase of i9k cameras and drop shipping with amazon. I have a couple other ideas... whichever makes the most sense and costs the less I'll roll with. Chances are that after the extra costs, the price will be in the mid $20s to $30 each. If anyone is interested PM so I can get an idea... will have to make an initial purchase with cash out of my pocket, so need to know how many we are looking at. I'll get a chance to make a couple calls tomorrow and update this with more info.
tested, working
Needed:
Replacement Camera with ffc: GlobalPartsDirect.com *** Wholesaler (Min order requirements, keeps changing, had been as high as 10) Working on individual purchases through Amazon **
Eugene's Froyo JP3(Latest as of this writing is R3)
Cameradata file: datapattern_front_420sp.zip (attached to post below)
Other things that can help:
Tools to open phone, fiberglass pen (not confirmed) or denatured alcohol, tear down video
How to do it:
1. Shutdown your Vibrant, remove battery, sim card, sd card
2. Remove each screw in the back plate
3. Using an opener tool (or something to wedge between the back and front plates), snap off the back plate.
4. Disconnect all of the "snap on" assemblies
5. Remove the Camera
6. being careful not to snap the connection to the power button (it is glued on the phone), move the main board to the side slightly so it stays safe.
7. Using your method of choice (paint remover chemical or fiber glass pen), remove the paint inside the circle molding where the FFC mounts to.
8. Install camera when area is fully dry (5 minutes or so)
9. Put phone back together
10. Flash Eugene's Froyo (R3 is latest as of writing) - remember to flash a 2.1 kernel whenever trying to nandroid restore or installing a 2.1 rom so you don't brick your phone during the downgrade
11. adb push cameradata file to /system/cameradata
12. boot up phone, download "mirror app for samsung galaxy s" from the market
13. Check your hair or something using your newly installed FFC!!
Code:
adb push [location to file]/datapattern_front_420sp.yup /system/cameradata/datapattern_front_420sp.yup
More info coming as I get a chance to add it...
UPDATE 9/30: Camera installed... With eugene's r3 froyo + the cameradata file, ffc works without any further set up. I'll update this post in the morning before I get on the road.
UPDATE 9/28: Found a camera from an i9k. Before I link it up, I would like to have some time to make sure its worth your investment. The i9000s camera snaps in as expected, and the rear camera works without a hitch. Need some dev help to get the ffc software into the build environment/kernel. In the mean time, I'll be plundering through the source.
Unfortunately, I am merely a web/db developer and can do bash scripting, but building android is not in my realm of expertise...
UPDATE 9/28: Good news is that the rear camera works as if I never switched cam assemblies. Also, as you can see in the fourth pic attached, if done right, the mod looks factory once done.
Now on to getting the front cam to work!!
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Had to tear my Vibrant apart this last weekend, and in the process I did some research on the camera. See attached photos. The camera chip is the exact same chip used in both the Sprint Epic 4G and the international Galaxy S, as is the rear camera. The only difference is the inclusion of a front facing camera on the epic and i9000s. This got me thinking about how to mod the vibrant to have a front facing camera since they are the exact same thing.
On the hardware side, obviously you need a hole for it. BUT WAIT!! Samsung already left an opening in the body mold for the front camera to mount to! All you need to do is drill a hole through the mold. Looks to be a 7/64" bit would be needed. A 1/8" bit looks like it will take too much away.
Next step would be mounting. Well sh*t. The camera snaps onto the main board under the chip.
So the hardware side is easy (assuming I can actually find the camera), so it comes down to software. From what I can tell is that the galaxy source includes the modules for every phone... so this could be easy, correct?
i would love to pull this off, can you mount a replacement camera from the epic or i9000s?
if you need a tester, ill be glad to help.
i bet sammy is going to release an updated version of the vibrant in the feature with a front facing camera, only makes sense since they left the spot in the chassis.
i would love to give this a try, after its been done of course lol but if u get it working plz let me know lol
not sure but i think this is the camera
http://www.littlediode.com/componen...31d4d4e1&xid=761c237b005c7758f0c56efbc4c1b464
I too would love to do this, but I cannot find the damned camera. Still looking though. Put an inquiry into a US based company that has 5 "MC10170's" in stock. Let's see what they get.
Still want to know anyone's thoughts on the software side though....
Julianmgn said:
i would love to give this a try, after its been done of course lol but if u get it working plz let me know lol
not sure but i think this is the camera
http://www.littlediode.com/componen...31d4d4e1&xid=761c237b005c7758f0c56efbc4c1b464
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Nice find, now we need a dev. willing to work on the s/w part of this hack!
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Nice find, now we need a dev. willing to work on the s/w part of this hack!
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Oh didn't see that link. I have an email in to them to see if I can get some more info.
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Oh didn't see that link. I have an email in to them to see if I can get some more info.
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great, i hope this is all possible, i posted over on the captivate forums to take a look at there H/W and see if it is possible for them, more people working on it the better
Well first things, first. We need to find the camera. I have a good feeling about this actually.
Nice find!
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Well first things, first. We need to find the camera. I have a good feeling about this actually.
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we believe this is IT!
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we believe this is IT!
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That may just be the chip only.
yeah im hoping that can be done, im really looking forward to this lol
Very good point. Still think we have to wait for surplus parts to make it's way out there
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sw33t can't wait until we get some cameras in
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great, i hope this is all possible, i posted over on the captivate forums to take a look at there H/W and see if it is possible for them, more people working on it the better
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I looked at the captivate teardowns and pics. Although they seem to have the same hardware (very much the same), the whole thing is laid differently. From what I could see there is not a spot where a front facing camera would easily go.
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I looked at the captivate teardowns and pics. Although they seem to have the same hardware (very much the same), the whole thing is laid differently. From what I could see there is not a spot where a front facing camera would easily go.
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Yea i looked at some too after posting, kinda stinks for them, looks like AT&T wanted there iPhone to be the only phone with a front facing camera, lucky for them AT&T users can unlock Vibrants and use them on AT&T! I believe the vibrant supports AT&T's 3g band, correct me if im wrong.
Why could we not just contact samsung and send our phone to them and have them add the camara for us....Our order one from the with the ffc as a option then we would have it all sw and hw....
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Why could we not just contact samsung and send our phone to them and have them add the camara for us....Our order one from the with the ffc as a option then we would have it all sw and hw....
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i dont think it works that way, but if you want to ask samsung, go ahead.
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i dont think it works that way, but if you want to ask samsung, go ahead.
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haha i wasnt going to say anything about that post but, yea go ahead and ask, i put money on Samsung laughing.
This is very interesting. *Crosses fingers for progress*
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I removed both cameras on the first day I got my Diamond. I've been looking through the service manual before and felt primed.
Beforehand I want to tell you I did this already to my Magician and my Hermes - easy like swinging compared to the following.
After nearly 2h everything was put together again (I spare you the dirty and sweaty details). Before I switched on again I already thought about posting here something like "don't do it... it's cumbersome". Ok, then I switched on.
Booting up just fine . Since I touched those sensitive antennae cables I tried my SIM-PIN, works. WLAN & BT, works. Navi (GPS) no signal!
During the next tremulous 4h I tried "everything". Cutting it short: there was a conducting patch grounding the GPS antenna cable . I pushed that cable 5nm (there's actually no room left within the housing - as long as the cameras are still in) below and it all worked again.
To sum it up: don't do it! I mean it: DON'T DO IT. If you're a reckless person - seek some other "joy".
Why am I posting in ROM dev.: Maybe someone has too much time and wants to save me some storage space and wants to cook me a ROM without camera stuff OR someone is in need of a tester for special software (e.g. 1st torch software for Magician needed the camera, my own software later on didn't need a camera and was much more lean and fast).
PS: If you still wonder why I actually did that -> company policy.
Dont know if i should laugh or cry... or go to bed -.-
Couldn't you just spray paint over the camera lenses or put scotch tape on them?
I don't know what to say... other than WTF!
@techdave: You'll be asked "R U carrying a camera-cellphone with U?" at the plant entrance. If the camera is "only" blinded they could get nitpicking and say there still is a camera. But I can "lordly" answer "No".
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@techdave: You'll be asked "R U carrying a camera-cellphone with U?" at the plant entrance. If the camera is "only" blinded they could get nitpicking and say there still is a camera. But I can "lordly" answer "No".
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but now you can reply, no i have fully maimed my thousand dollar smartphone in honour of this company!
Wow, extreme measures!
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but now you can reply, no i have fully maimed my thousand dollar smartphone in honour of this company!
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Haha only temporarily, he can put them back when he quits because he gets sick of a Diamond with no camera.
@racerx_: Don't exaggerate. It's neither that expensive nor is it maimed (luckily). There's been always little use for these cheap CMOS sensors for me.
hey, do your company guards know that you can bring your cameras in separate pocket and then reassemble it back at the facility? ;-)
Carrying the cameras would violate company policies itself - no matter whether in conjunction with a suitable device or not. Technically you'd also bring a USB-Cam, LAN-Cam and whatever cam.
I've got nothing more than a usual cell phone with added holes. Would this be violating? Almost every cell phone has got bluetooth capability. So what about bluetooth cams? Ooops. Is every (BT-)phone now violating the above policy?
What are you on man? Whatever it is its kicking in awesome.
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Carrying the cameras would violate company policies itself - no matter whether in conjunction with a suitable device or not. Technically you'd also bring a USB-Cam, LAN-Cam and whatever cam.
I've got nothing more than a usual cell phone with added holes. Would this be violating? Almost every cell phone has got bluetooth capability. So what about bluetooth cams? Ooops. Is every (BT-)phone now violating the above policy?
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I guess the policy is not to carry cameras, otherwise the policy would probably have been not to carry any communication device. Carrying a device with holes but with no camera's would be acceptable then. If not, you'd also have to remove the BT and the WiFi, since there are probably cameras out there that can communicate with BT or WiFi. If you are going to remove that, please take pictures (if you still can without the camera)? LOL
How did you move the GPS grounding cable a stunning distance of 5 nm? Is that cable fixed enough not to vibrate back while using the device?
I must say, I should go to sleep, did not cry, but felt a joy while reading your thread. Nice one! Thanx
Can we put a third camera on Diamond ?
Some pictures pls! Thanks!
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...there are probably cameras out there that can communicate with BT or WiFi.
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That was my argument already! If BT and/or Wifi are allowed, then should be mine as well.
drvdijk said:
How did you move the GPS grounding cable a stunning distance of 5 nm? Is that cable fixed enough not to vibrate back while using the device?
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Well, 5nm were of course disproportionate. But yes, the cable is bendable. Although I wouldn't push it more than needed. Till now it didn't resume position because my device still knows where it is (although I don't know all the time).
drvdijk said:
I must say, I should go to sleep, did not cry, but felt a joy while reading your thread. Nice one! Thanx
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Great. Let's see in a 1-2 years when I'm disassembling the brand new HTC [disclosed]... :-D
panosha said:
Can we put a third camera on Diamond ?
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Where would you wanna do that? On the side? Two next to each other for stereography?
GSeeker said:
Some pictures pls! Thanks!
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I'll see what I can do. But I'm not gonna dismantle my baby again (unless I'm forced to).
I would be lucky if we were allowed to use phones with *removed* cameras. We have to prove, that it was a cameraless device from the beginning (like in: go to shop, buy without camera). Not sure if there's a official (i.e. AT&T) version of the diamond without camera.
(oh, and I regularly disassemble my smartphones when they get sick, nothing to worry about)
i demand pictures! ...so where do you work? BAHAHHA
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I would be lucky if we were allowed to use phones with *removed* cameras. We have to prove, that it was a cameraless device from the beginning (like in: go to shop, buy without camera). Not sure if there's a official (i.e. AT&T) version of the diamond without camera.
(oh, and I regularly disassemble my smartphones when they get sick, nothing to worry about)
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Yea, AT&T sells the Fuze with no camera. I guess you have to buy it through the business site or via phone though...
bigb252 said:
Yea, AT&T sells the Fuze with no camera. I guess you have to buy it through the business site or via phone though...
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which is exactly where I can't get from germany But at least there's a minimal chance then on the bay
Hey guy's
I need to remove the fornt and back camers from the device because i'm working in facility which prohibited to enter with camers.
I would like to know if the device will continue to function WITHOUT the camera module?
I mean, if I remove the camera modules from the device, will it function normaly?
Thanks!
good luck
do they even see you've a front camera?
Why don't you get an old crappy phone to use there and your sgs outside ?
Because I need to use some of the features of the device while working
Any1 can please answer my question?
Just tell them you removed it....its not like they will break your phone
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I doubt anyone here will know.. If you are good with electronics, check the way they are connected to the mainboard. But realistically, you can only try it. Not sure if both cameras would be connected to a separate board though
I've broken down PDAs and smart phones over the years and even done a lens replacement and a camera module replacement on an iPhone. I can tell you right now the time cost and angst are not nearly worth the effort. For example the back case replacement on the iPhone 3G requires an almost complete tear-down of the device minus thankfully separating the glass screen from the digitizer and the LCD. I do not do this repair in my business because the cost and time is worth more then the device its self.
That all said, you have a unique situation that possible requires unique effort. If your company bought the phone for you I would say go for it, with approval of course.
Odd you would need the device but not allowed cameras... you designing a competing device? You wouldn't work in Redmond would you?
Alright enough teasing. Disabling or removing the modules might mess with so many other components or even the OS. Think of it as simple PC with a missing component, sometimes it wont boot without it, even though it seems completely unrelated to the core system. Without being on the design build teem of said device, its a crap shoot it would even run without the modules.
Removing the lenses might be a better option, as silly as that sounds. Just taking one apart is opening a crazy can of worms. And I seriously wish you luck.
Call Samsung and tell them your Q from James Bond maybe they will offer to help. Seriously, try the manufacturer, after they say up and down and over and over again that it will void your warranty, they might just help you.
This site is more about software development, mods and roms, then actual hardware work. Good luck though! And post pictures of the break down... ahhh... with a different camera, ...and not at work. ;-)
Just place some tape over the lens. =)
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Why don't you use some paint?
Then you don't need to ruin the phone.
They can test it and it will not show anything.
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well I guess that you should just dissable it http://www.careace.net/2010/06/09/disassembly-of-the-samsung-galaxy-s/ and remove the lens and tape the wires ..
Can I ask you a question. Are you a spy? Just kidding lol. Looks like you'll have to give this one a go yourself. It's not like people take there cameras out there phones to see if they will boot everyday. If you find out the answer please report back...
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Why don't you use some paint?
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Since paint would not be easy to remove, maybe your workplace would be ok with that? Would look ugly though.
Maybe buy a cheap phone for work and leave the SGS at home or in your car (if you drive).
You sparked my interest, ...I found a fairly good site with a break-down list with pictures and I think a video of the disassembly.
http://www.sprintdroids.com/forum/s...-galaxy-s-torn-down-extensively-detailed.html
Sorry about the jokes before, I just couldn't resist.
A hint on after tear downs, restart up procedures can be odd. The iPhone likes to be restarted up in recovery mode or it wont boot. And stay grounded! Use a grounding wrist strap. One static arc and it will fry any of the multitude of chips.
I have know idea about our Galaxy S's. Read study and Google it a lot. I did my best when I read about all the mistakes and failure people made, and there were many. Over time as this device becomes more popular it will have far more data on the web. Right now its so new not to many people are cracking the cases with being under warranties etc... Good luck and let us know how it goes.
Don
If you use right paint. Use waterbased paint.
You could easy removed it with car polish without damage the lens when you dont want it anymore.
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Hello. Yes, I'm a noob. I watched video, and also have been trying to find a solution for last three days. I just really am unsure where to even start!!.... :silly:
I just purchased this Samsung Galaxy Tab:
ebay. com/itm/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-w-Otter-Box-Charger-3G-SPH-P100-/140863908008?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&nma=true&si=zdNnh%2F8hBkAfClqVXbmhnrVFeI4%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
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I have no SD card.
This is Sprint version of Tab, though I'm not sure if that is still attached to the tab.
I do not know if this is rooted (item description does not say anything about that, but I'm guessing it is..)
Received it, charged it, tried to turn it on, and it loops the glowing Samsung boot screen.
I tried to load in recovery mode and the attached image is the screen that I get. fails to mount anything!
(again tried to link to image also but not allowed )
I downloaded both kies and odin but can"t seem to connect the tab to the PC? I have never used any of these programs and was just not expecting to need to so soon.
I'm not trying to do anything fancy just yet, just want to be able to turn the tab on!!
I have searched these forums, and others, youtube, can't seem to find my exact problem and getting to be at wit's end..
I used to be pretty tech savvy but haven't done much dealings in last few years so rusty. And I have never had any kind of smart phone or tab before and so I'm just a bit nervous on where to start or to do anything because I think it is good that it at least still turns on?? Don't want to worsen the problem.
I am just between trying to resolve this matter, if it is possible or if nothing is possible, attempting to use the ebay buyer protection but i'd rather it not come to that! (also why I haven't made any changes just yet)
I do not have any other communication device at the moment, was kind of relying on this tab for work, and don't have time or money to spend waiting for that to go through plus a replacement unless I have absolutely no choice.. :crying:
I would be eternally grateful for any help in what direction to go. If I could JUST get a jump start I think I tend to pick things up alright.. as far as development goes. Just off to a bad start with this tab and pretty please if you don't mind give me some reassurance (and maybe some links) that it will be okay :victory::highfive:
Probably has been rooted. Boot into recovery ( power volume up ). Press vol up and power. Once the tab starts, keep your finger on volume up and quit the power button. Once you are in recovery, take a picture of the screen and post here.
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Probably has been rooted. Boot into recovery ( power volume up ). Press vol up and power. Once the tab starts, keep your finger on volume up and quit the power button. Once you are in recovery, take a picture of the screen and post here.
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i figured so! the attached picture in the original post is from holding the volume up button while powering on. that is supposed to be in recovery mode, but there is "(No such file or directory)" for.. seems to be anything.
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i figured so! the attached picture in the original post is from holding the volume up button while powering on. that is supposed to be in recovery mode, but there is "(No such file or directory)" for.. seems to be anything.
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You may want to contact the seller before raising buyer protection.
Maybe he is willing to take it back or willing to refund you some money, then let you play with it.
I hope it is not a case of bad NAND chip.
priyana said:
You may want to contact the seller before raising buyer protection.
Maybe he is willing to take it back or willing to refund you some money, then let you play with it.
I hope it is not a case of bad NAND chip.
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I have contacted him, though he doesn't seem to understand what is the problem either. I definitely would prefer to arrange something with him I just don't even know my options right now if that makes sense. He said he hadn't had this problem so I don't know.. because I have not done anything with it myself but open the mail and plug it in. If it was working for him correctly, the chip wouldn't be bad would it?
He had photos of the tab on running screens in his listing. Seems to be the same one.
I guess was trying to see if I even had a chance at it working regardless. I am on a very limited budget so its already been an inconvenience, but thats the risk I take buying second hand I suppose. Just trying to make the best of it any which way. I just have no idea what this screen says about the condition of the tab..
I have no ill will toward the seller just trying to find best resolution.
I'm not opposed at playing around with it, as long as I would actually have a good chance of it actually working and had a clue where to start.
Otherwise I would probably like to return it. Like I said, going the buyer protection route is worst case scenario to me. And I would not use the buyer protection after altering the programming in any way. That is also part of why I have not tried anything so far. Don't want to totally break or brick it.
I just want to turn it on. I actually hadn't even had the notion of playing with any of it whatsoever until I found I had a problem, and started researching it
or if it is fixable . (which I still do not know)
I think I have decent ethics,, mostly I'm just trying to figure out what is wrong with the tab, both for myself and / or the seller if we do happen to return the tab :fingers-crossed:
Thank you!!
I am sure you have the right ethics.
What we are worried is if he hasn't got one.
How do you know the picture is of this tab, and was the condition right before the sell?
If he is genuine, there can be a compromise. Either he take it back, or take it back to fix it and send you again (after sufficiently proof to you that it is now running, with video of him flipping it front and back next to the TV news or something, hahaha, pointing the same scratches and marks on the tab he is holding), or refund you a little money.
But if he is unwilling to compromise, and you would like to try fixing it yourself and be a good guy, then bite the bullet and try and prepare to bear the loss.
But give him no star, afterall it is his choice not to keep you happy, right?
Edit: also I have no experience with CDMA tab to try to guide you. If it were a GSM tab, at least I have some experience.
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I am sure you have the right ethics.
What we are worried is if he hasn't got one.
How do you know the picture is of this tab, and was the condition right before the sell?
If he is genuine, there can be a compromise. Either he take it back, or take it back to fix it and send you again (after sufficiently proof to you that it is now running, with video of him flipping it front and back next to the TV news or something, hahaha, pointing the same scratches and marks on the tab he is holding), or refund you a little money.
But if he is unwilling to compromise, and you would like to try fixing it yourself and be a good guy, then bite the bullet and try and prepare to bear the loss.
But give him no star, afterall it is his choice not to keep you happy, right?
Edit: also I have no experience with CDMA tab to try to guide you. If it were a GSM tab, at least I have some experience.
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Ah thank you anyway! I am definitely picking up what you're putting down. He has great feedback, 100% positive, or else I probably would not have ordered it, though this seems to be the only electronic type sale he's made. We will see how it goes. I believe its the same device because it included the otter box and I saw no others like it. There are virtually no scratches on it, one tiny one I found near volume buttons, but that is it. And the smear on otterbox in photo seems to match. Though there's no box on the tab in the photos in which it is running properly, they do seem to be on the same carpet as the others.
OHHH ebay I forgot why I shyed away from that website. I really was trying to be very discretionary in ordering the thing but I guess it doesn't always make a difference hahah I almost wondered if he possibly had taken the photos, then tried to wipe his data before sending, and that is where something went wrong. Who knows! I am waiting for his response to the email with photo I posted here.
Actually its relieving just to talk to someone who gives a hoot about it any which way. :highfive:
Really hope can work something out.
If you decide or have to keep this device, can you, at least, get the seller to tell you what recovery and what o/s was installed on your tab?
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If you decide or have to keep this device, can you, at least, get the seller to tell you what recovery and what o/s was installed on your tab?
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Thanks for suggestion. He is actually corresponding with me a little bit at a time. So I just asked him specifically what you just asked, and a few other questions regarding the tab's past, will update as soon as I find out. It is certainly more difficult with such little knowledge of the history of the item. I did receive confirmation from him that it was rooted. Nothing beyond that so far, however.
But hey on the lighter side of the situation! Haha, My trusty ol' horoscope ( -__- ) popped up and it says:
You're more in tune with the tech world than usual and now is a good time to price out gadgets for later consumption. You may want to look into stuff that doesn't quite make sense to you yet. :good:
That's a good "sign" right?
Are you sure it's not an horoscope written by the seller?
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Though there's no box on the tab in the photos in which it is running properly, they do seem to be on the same carpet as the others.
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No otter box on the one running properly!
Kind of a clue that it was an older photo?
why would he take out the otter box and run it and take a photo of it?
I am calling foul here.
He must confess and take it back.
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why would he take out the otter box and run it and take a photo of it?
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Well, it actually isn't in the otter box for most of the photos in listing... but that's still a good point... I tried to link to the listing but being a newbie I can't post links. Just realized he is from a town named Brick.. go figure! I don't know if he'll take it back or not..because he listed no returns. So you think the tab is likely not fixable? And I may have been ripped off? Wow what a bummer....
Now wondering if there's a time limit on the buyer protection if that may be part whats taking so long.. dragging it out. As far as that goes, never used it before, but I have no feedback, just started a new account recently because I hadn't used it in 5 + years and could not remember my old one. And his 100% positive feedback, I don't know if I would have a chance anyway
If they take that in consideration..
He probably did write the horoscope. jokes on me i guess..
If you have to keep the Sprint tab, you might want to restock-it back to Gingerbread 2.3. See the following thread, if you have any questions, don't be shy: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275031&highlight=odin+drivers
after seeing the ebay link you PM me, I do think he has reason to take photo of the tab running out of the otter box.
Initially I thought his shots was with the otter encasing the tab, except for the one that it is running. Apparently all of them are with the otter off, but the one running has no otter nearby.
Well, like in my PM, if you can go download mode, there is still chance to get it running.
The most extreme case is with a broken NAND chip, some have removed the NAND (it was glued on, can you believe that) and still run from microSD card.
There are ways, as long as it still boots to download mode/recovery.
Soon it will be your call....
Before removing the nand chip, he should try to restock like I said before and as shown in the thread link I posted.
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Before removing the nand chip, he should try to restock like I said before and as shown in the thread link I posted.
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Yeah, I am sure he know. I already PM him, apparently the same link as yours.
the NAND removal is the last, only if it is proven to be bad.
I forgot to mention that he should include the pit file and repartition the device, just in case.
well i haven't heard again from seller. No matter which way I go it is going to take some time and energy but I would rather not direct it toward dealing with an argument, so going to try to direct all that more positively and give this a go.
Thanks for all the advice for sure!
I am sure I will end up with some more questions at some point. Though, in spite of the fact that I don't think I should HAVE to do all this right away, as I do, I still feel okay about succeeding.. :fingers-crossed:
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Yeah, I am sure he know. I already PM him, apparently the same link as yours.
the NAND removal is the last, only if it is proven to be bad.
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So I have performed the tasks as posted, and made some progress (I think?), though the tab is still stuck on Samsung screen when start up normally.
Now when I load it in recovery mode I get this screen::
If you just Odin the ef17 using rodderick guide, you shouldn't even have cwm 4.0 I think...
Need someone to confirm.
Are you past that point and going for ics?
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Please look at the photo I have posted (zoom in to see the details) with this post to the thread. I am referring to the "Wireless Charging Pack" which is actually a cover for the Note 5 from Samsung, which has a battery built into it, which wirelessly charges the phone while the cover is on. The cover only covers the back, not the front (including the camera lens on the back as it contains a battery) but wirelessly charges the phone while it is on the phone (I have read in the description it has a switch on it which allows you to turn the wireless charging on and off, so essentially this is Samsung's version of a Mophie cover). You can use the phone normally (except for the camera of course) while the phone has this on it. The attached photo I got from this link (you have to scroll down a ways to find it): http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-note5/charging/. Thoughts? It is currently not for sale on the Samsung accessory web site. Does anyone have one and what do they think of it? Does anyone know where to get one?
Looks pretty interesting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3195459
We got a discussion about it going on there but none of the answers you want. the device is still a bit of a mystery as a lot of online retailers are not showing stock.
I am still looking for one as well...
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I think this is one on eBay, http://www.ebay.com/itm/GENUINE-SAMSUNG-GALAXY-S6-EDGE-WIRELESS-CHARGING-PAD-WIDE-RETAIL-PACK-EP-PN915I-/231539208400?hash=item35e8cff0d0
No, that's not it. Look at the photo I posted - it's also a case
Anybody have any ideas? http://www.samsung.com/global/galax...mages/galaxy-note5_charging_power-to-go_l.jpg
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Anybody have any ideas? http://www.samsung.com/global/galax...mages/galaxy-note5_charging_power-to-go_l.jpg
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found the wireless charging pack but seller does not ship to US...
It's finally available!
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found the wireless charging pack but seller does not ship to US...
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I did live chat with the Samsung Support reps and they said to call the Samsung Support line and I would be able to order one (that they were available). Here is the number: "1-855-SAM-USA1 (1-855-726-8721) 9am – 9pm ET, 7 days a week". Has anyone gotten one that can report on what they think of it?
Price?
I am not ready to order one so I didn't call. Give them a buzz and let us know
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I was all about this until it set in that it covers the camera. What a waste. Had it not been for that the form factor on this looks stellar. Oh well...
Drachnem said:
I was all about this until it set in that it covers the camera. What a waste. Had it not been for that the form factor on this looks stellar. Oh well...
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Yes but you need to think of what is being asked here. With our current technology, batteries must be rectangular to work, and cannot have holes in them. So to have a hole for the camera would be to have to make the battery shorter (and maybe thicker to make up for that) and currently this case already adds alot of thickness as far as I have heard. So there's not much of an alternative! I believe the designers also probably thought it might not be such a big concern as well - because how much more often do you use the phone for other things - other than for the camera - most of the time, right?
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Yes but you need to think of what is being asked here. With our current technology, batteries must be rectangular to work, and cannot have holes in them. So to have a hole for the camera would be to have to make the battery shorter (and maybe thicker to make up for that) and currently this case already adds alot of thickness as far as I have heard. So there's not much of an alternative! I believe the designers also probably thought it might not be such a big concern as well - because how much more often do you use the phone for other things - other than for the camera - most of the time, right?
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They could have used 3 batteries to get around the camera. Would have increased the price a lot i am sure though.
Yes I was thinking that as well.
http://www.samsung.com/ph/consumer/mobile-devices/accessories/battery/EP-TN920BSEGWW
One site shows $119.99
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http://www.samsung.com/ph/consumer/mobile-devices/accessories/battery/EP-TN920BSEGWW
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I live in the US. Not available for shipment here...
http://promo.samsungpromotions.com/giftsoftheseason/
Charging case is included in both pack promotions.
Did you end up getting the wireless charger pack? When you posted the reply about the gift promotion offers I looked and didn't see one... But I looked now again and the offers are no longer there. Last time I talked to Samsung on the phone they said it would be available in January... Samsung is still not offering it on their website, I noticed however, and calling that same Samsung order line I am told it is a 30 minute wait just to talk to someone - so I gave up on that. Anyone have anything on these?
They could have totally have the cut out for the camera. There's an impression for it. They could have just continued and sliced that bad boy open. I got $100 that the next version of it will feature a hole for the camera and flash. Looks good though.
BTW, what the heck color option of a Note 5 is that? That thing looks sexy as hell!!!
http://www.samsung.com/ph/consumer/mobile-devices/accessories/battery/EP-TN920BSEGWW
Many of you guys know that the newer Gear VR Consumer Edition apparently doesn't fit the Note 4. So I was searching for the older Innovator Edition for my Note 4, but all of the prices were jacked up to ridiculous amounts on Amazon and Ebay and it was sold out at Best Buy. And then I happened across a seller with certified refurbished Innovator Editions for both the Note 4 and S6 on Amazon for $150 with Prime shipping.
http://amzn.com/B018UHFZXQ
It looks like the 'certified refurbished' is a program from Amazon and it does come with a 90 day warranty.
I also made a Slickdeals post http://goo.gl/XuoyEm because I think there will be plenty of people who will be using their Note 4 for a while and want to experience VR.
Impossible to get one in or to Canada. Scammers on eBay and Amazon.ca selling for upwards of $500.
Just ordered one, to be delivered Thursday. Will let you know how it looks. Hopefully works with Sac23's Note 5 Ported ROM, otherwise it'll be time to do some flashin'!
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Impossible to get one in or to Canada. Scammers on eBay and Amazon.ca selling for upwards of $500.
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Yeah, that's why I was so happy to find a certified refub one from a reputable seller. Unfortunately, it didn't come with the microSD card, but the seller has been good about sending one out to me. As soon as I get it, I'll report back.
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Just ordered one, to be delivered Thursday. Will let you know how it looks. Hopefully works with Sac23's Note 5 Ported ROM, otherwise it'll be time to do some flashin'!
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Thanks, I will do the same.
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Yeah, that's why I was so happy to find a certified refub one from a reputable seller. Unfortunately, it didn't come with the microSD card, but the seller has been good about sending one out to me. As soon as I get it, I'll report back.
Thanks, I will do the same.
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Well, got the Gear VR (1 day early, thanks Amazon!) in a plain white box, and looks almost new to me. The only thing that I might question is whether or not it was used, as the foam surround looks like it may have been worn before.
Overall, no scratches, came with the headgear, back strap, top strap, faceplate cover, extra foam surround, and instruction manual, all in the big black carry case. It did not include the microsd card that is found in the retail version. The headgear did have the protective plastic covering on it as if it were new, but the one that should be on the back strap didn't, and neither did the top piece nor the faceplate cover.
Overall, it's a pretty solid buy, especially since you can download the oculus software from Sandman here. Now, I can't vouch for how well it works yet, since: A. I just unboxed it, and B: I'm running Sac23 Note 5 Ported V2 .1 10/2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/development/rom-sac23-note-5-ported-v1-9-23-t3208932Rom right now, which doesn't seem to support Gear VR. I'm currently installing [ROM] [N910PVPS4COK1] [100% Stock, Root, Odexed&Deodexed, No KNOX/Itson] [12/15/2015]http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/development/rom-t3271966 to get that functionality back, and will update once I have done so.
It's not the deal that the new users get with the $99 Gear VR, but compared to the $299 this guy was, I'm pretty happy.
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Well, got the Gear VR (1 day early, thanks Amazon!) in a plain white box, and looks almost new to me. The only thing that I might question is whether or not it was used, as the foam surround looks like it may have been worn before.
Overall, no scratches, came with the headgear, back strap, top strap, faceplate cover, extra foam surround, and instruction manual, all in the big black carry case. It did not include the microsd card that is found in the retail version. The headgear did have the protective plastic covering on it as if it were new, but the one that should be on the back strap didn't, and neither did the top piece nor the faceplate cover.
Overall, it's a pretty solid buy, especially since you can download the oculus software from Sandman here. Now, I can't vouch for how well it works yet, since: A. I just unboxed it, and B: I'm running Sac23 Note 5 Ported V2 .1 10/2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/development/rom-sac23-note-5-ported-v1-9-23-t3208932Rom right now, which doesn't seem to support Gear VR. I'm currently installing [ROM] [N910PVPS4COK1] [100% Stock, Root, Odexed&Deodexed, No KNOX/Itson] [12/15/2015]http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/development/rom-t3271966 to get that functionality back, and will update once I have done so.
It's not the deal that the new users get with the $99 Gear VR, but compared to the $299 this guy was, I'm pretty happy.
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Thanks for the update. When you get it set up, let us know if everything works.
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Thanks for the update. When you get it set up, let us know if everything works.
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So far, everything checks out. It isn't quite as smooth as when I tried it on my phone while running kitkat...though that may be because I was impatient and did a dirty flash lol (I know, tsk tsk, shame on me, my phone will blow up, yadda yadda yadda. I was impatient! I'll do a clean install in the next few days to update the performance of Gear VR with a properly done flash).
Video player, Netflix, and photos all work well, though slightly laggy (again, dirty flash), and I noticed that the focus wheel isn't quite as smooth as it should be, though I finally got it dialed in.
For those of you that never tried the Gear VR, it does have a fair amount of pixelation, however after watching a movie for a bit you really don't notice it as much. The touchpad, back button, and volume controls all work as they should.
The phone does overheat while using this. I've had a fan directed at my phone while watching movies, and that seemed to help. There are tutorials and write ups on mods you can do, from heatsinks applied directly to the battery, to attaching mini pc-fans to the back of the phone powered by small usb battery packs hooked on the strap by the temple, to plug in fans. I even read about a guy that stuck one of those cold gel eyepatches that women wear between the phone and the faceplate cover to cool down the phone. Whatever you do, know that heat is an issue while using this for playing videos. I haven't tried any of the games yet, but I imagine that it'd get worse with that.
The lenses on the Gear VR are adequate. Things are relatively sharp in the center, but you do get chroma aberrations on the corners of your field of view (purple fringing on areas of contrast, i.e. the edge of the screen will be slightly out of focus from the corner of your eye, and you'll see a purple hue along it). Not a huge issue, as you're most likely concentrating on the center of your viewing area, and shifting your head towards anything you want to look at, but it's there. I've also noticed that you have to have the headset on just right to have everything in focus top to bottom, left to right. If it is slightly off, then you'll notice that certain areas are not in focus.
Despite all this, it's a great piece of tech. It does transport you from wherever you are to another place, be it a theater, virtual VR tour, Iron Man's lab, etc. It is good enough to allow you to suspend disbelief, and engage in an immersive experience. Occasionally, it will bring you back to reality, sometimes in a jarring fashion, but overall, it does the job pretty well. I've even found myself reaching out my hands to try and touch something, only to remember that it's virtual, and usually laugh at myself afterwards.
All I know is I hope that Samsung continues with it's Gear VR line, and that when my upgrade is due in November, I'll get a new piece of tech that'll surpass what this one can do, primarily the pixelation, overheating, and the quality of the lenses.
My buddy got the Note 5, and just received his Gear VR for his phone. I'll try to snag it soon to give it a try, and I'll let y'all know the differences.
Let me know if you have any questions, and I'll try to answer them the best I can.
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So far, everything checks out. It isn't quite as smooth as when I tried it on my phone while running kitkat...though that may be because I was impatient and did a dirty flash lol (I know, tsk tsk, shame on me, my phone will blow up, yadda yadda yadda. I was impatient! I'll do a clean install in the next few days to update the performance of Gear VR with a properly done flash).
Video player, Netflix, and photos all work well, though slightly laggy (again, dirty flash), and I noticed that the focus wheel isn't quite as smooth as it should be, though I finally got it dialed in.
For those of you that never tried the Gear VR, it does have a fair amount of pixelation, however after watching a movie for a bit you really don't notice it as much. The touchpad, back button, and volume controls all work as they should.
The phone does overheat while using this. I've had a fan directed at my phone while watching movies, and that seemed to help. There are tutorials and write ups on mods you can do, from heatsinks applied directly to the battery, to attaching mini pc-fans to the back of the phone powered by small usb battery packs hooked on the strap by the temple, to plug in fans. I even read about a guy that stuck one of those cold gel eyepatches that women wear between the phone and the faceplate cover to cool down the phone. Whatever you do, know that heat is an issue while using this for playing videos. I haven't tried any of the games yet, but I imagine that it'd get worse with that.
The lenses on the Gear VR are adequate. Things are relatively sharp in the center, but you do get chroma aberrations on the corners of your field of view (purple fringing on areas of contrast, i.e. the edge of the screen will be slightly out of focus from the corner of your eye, and you'll see a purple hue along it). Not a huge issue, as you're most likely concentrating on the center of your viewing area, and shifting your head towards anything you want to look at, but it's there. I've also noticed that you have to have the headset on just right to have everything in focus top to bottom, left to right. If it is slightly off, then you'll notice that certain areas are not in focus.
Despite all this, it's a great piece of tech. It does transport you from wherever you are to another place, be it a theater, virtual VR tour, Iron Man's lab, etc. It is good enough to allow you to suspend disbelief, and engage in an immersive experience. Occasionally, it will bring you back to reality, sometimes in a jarring fashion, but overall, it does the job pretty well. I've even found myself reaching out my hands to try and touch something, only to remember that it's virtual, and usually laugh at myself afterwards.
All I know is I hope that Samsung continues with it's Gear VR line, and that when my upgrade is due in November, I'll get a new piece of tech that'll surpass what this one can do, primarily the pixelation, overheating, and the quality of the lenses.
My buddy got the Note 5, and just received his Gear VR for his phone. I'll try to snag it soon to give it a try, and I'll let y'all know the differences.
Let me know if you have any questions, and I'll try to answer them the best I can.
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Thanks for the update. I got the microsd card today and popped it in my phone, but the touchpad still isn't working. What firmware are you on? I upgraded to the latest 5.1.1 (DOK2), but it's stock. I don't know if that could be the issue or if the Gear VR itself is just defective.
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Thanks for the update. I got the microsd card today and popped it in my phone, but the touchpad still isn't working. What firmware are you on? I upgraded to the latest 5.1.1 (DOK2), but it's stock. I don't know if that could be the issue or if the Gear VR itself is just defective.
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I'm on latest as well. If the touchpad isn't working, that's probably a hardware issue with the Gear VR itself. Do you know anybody else with a Note 4 that they can try on your Gear VR? Also, make sure that the micro-usb connection is seated correctly. Sometimes on mine it doesn't push in all the way, and i just lightly press the phone in to make sure it's a firm connection.
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I'm on latest as well. If the touchpad isn't working, that's probably a hardware issue with the Gear VR itself. Do you know anybody else with a Note 4 that they can try on your Gear VR? Also, make sure that the micro-usb connection is seated correctly. Sometimes on mine it doesn't push in all the way, and i just lightly press the phone in to make sure it's a firm connection.
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Yeah, I've been fiddling with it to make sure everything is seated properly. I'm pretty sure it's a hardware issue now. I contacted Samsung, but their customer service is so bad right now. I was almost finished with the RMA process, but their system was down and they couldn't find my serial number. Then while I was waiting for the system to work again, the call got disconnected on their end. They said they would call me back if that happened and took my number, but after 15 minutes of waiting, I called back and had to do the same process again with a different rep. And the system was still down, so she said she would call me back within 24 hours. That was Friday. No call yet.
I have contacted Samsung customer service before, but I don't remember it being that bad.
Anyway, I will call back tomorrow and try to get the RMA finished. If not, I'll have to send it back for a refund. It's sad because I was really excited about the Gear VR.
Bought one thru Amazon last week
After numerous tries to talk with someone in marketing at Samsung and being unwilling to even pay the $199, found the $150 refurbished on Amazon. The one I got appears to be new, all protective stickers in place and not a mark on it. The only thing "missing" was the SD card but not needed as the software install required at first use put everything that is on the card on my phone. So far so good.
Now looking to find the best solution to use Cardboard in addition to Oculus. Anyone?
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After numerous tries to talk with someone in marketing at Samsung and being unwilling to even pay the $199, found the $150 refurbished on Amazon. The one I got appears to be new, all protective stickers in place and not a mark on it. The only thing "missing" was the SD card but not needed as the software install required at first use put everything that is on the card on my phone. So far so good.
Now looking to find the best solution to use Cardboard in addition to Oculus. Anyone?
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Unfortunately, I have had such a continued bad experience with Samsung customer service that I have decided to return the Gear VR. I was super excited about it, but at this point it's not worth the aggravation. Three calls, an email, and 6 days and still I can't get them to set up a simple RMA and send me a shipping label despite them telling me everytime that they'll get it done.
Darn Samsung.
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Got one for Xmas. Fun but overheats.
$99 consumer is back in stock now... just a simple mod to each corner and should work fine on N4. So back this goes to be refurbished again!
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Got one for Xmas. Fun but overheats.
$99 consumer is back in stock now... just a simple mod to each corner and should work fine on N4. So back this goes to be refurbished again!
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I (and probably a bunch of other people as well) would really appreciate it if, when you make the mods to your Consumer Edition, you'd come back and post pics and instructions on how you did it.
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I (and probably a bunch of other people as well) would really appreciate it if, when you make the mods to your Consumer Edition, you'd come back and post pics and instructions on how you did it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/mobile-vr/gear-vr/99-gear-vr-note-4-t3255739
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/mobile-vr/gear-vr/99-gear-vr-note-4-t3255739
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Thanks, I was in that thread earlier but didn't know someone had made a post about modding the Consumer Edition.
As posted before.. If you your comfortable Modding, it's now possible to use the New Samsung Gear VR on Note 4.. works great
Cheaper / Better and easier to get
My firmware/model info in signature
The new Gear VR can be made to work with Note 4.. FYI