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Port Iphone OS?

A lot of progress is being made as android OS has now been ported to iphone 2g and 3g. Wondering if we could do the reverse on the Nexus? Now before I get flamed or whatever, its not that I want an Iphone or think its better, just like the choice is all....
http://gizmodo.com/5533312/iphone-3g-shown-running-android

iphone os isn't open source. and, a nexus one user, why the hell would want to install iphone os ?!?

call me selfish lol never used an iphone but thought it would be cool...smh ok was a thought, back to drolling over my nexus....

Wrong section, and the last comment is correct that iPhone OS isnt' open source so we'll never see it openly available. You should learn C++ and port it for us!

I agree
One of the things, the world doesn't need: an iphone os port for nexus one xD

applications
I think the best and only reason to have the iphone OS is to have so many different applications.
I wonder if there is a way to somehow boot up iphone applications on an android phone using some sort of compatibility mode? That would be ideal and give us the best of both worlds, a crazy amount of apps and android.

the prediction is 75,000-100,000 android apps by 2010. how many more apps do you need?

This iPhone isn't completely closed source. The kernel is open, and that's likely where most of the porting work would need to go anyway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system)

go ahead and dream, dont come crying to me when apple Legal dept rips off your head and funnels in feces from Jobs himself when you actually do port it

N31N said:
go ahead and dream, dont come crying to me when apple Legal dept rips off your head and funnels in feces from Jobs himself when you actually do port it
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Why would the OP come to you and cry? are you a lawyer?
porting another operating system to a machine that you personally own will not get you into trouble.
You can limit yourself upto only provide instructions on how to do this, and not by distributing the actual image in public, you will not get in trouble for it.
I am no lawyer but a paralegal in IP.
I would agree that this is infact a good project, and/or i would even dream of porting Winmo to have a triple boot in our (What google states as the Developers phone = Nexus one).
Don't get me wrong, Android is Awesome, but having more options is always better!
It is like a PC compared to a Playstation
In Playstation, you are limited to playing PS games.
In a PC, besides the PC games, you can also play different kind of PS, Gamecube, PS2, etc. emulators.

iphone apps
I guess the amount of iphone apps does not really apply to my desire to have a compatibility mode to run them. Just the types of apps. I'm a medical student and as the iphone has much more support on this front, I think it would be quite beneficial be able to run the apps that aren't ported over to android. I hope that things will change however and more medical applications will be made for android soon. It's just a matter of time really...

I don't want the entire iPhone OS because its stupid.. if someone could reveal their scrolling physics, it would be great....

din0_22 said:
Why would the OP come to you and cry? are you a lawyer?
porting another operating system to a machine that you personally own will not get you into trouble.
You can limit yourself upto only provide instructions on how to do this, and not by distributing the actual image in public, you will not get in trouble for it.
I am no lawyer but a paralegal in IP.
I would agree that this is infact a good project, and/or i would even dream of porting Winmo to have a triple boot in our (What google states as the Developers phone = Nexus one).
Don't get me wrong, Android is Awesome, but having more options is always better!
It is like a PC compared to a Playstation
In Playstation, you are limited to playing PS games.
In a PC, besides the PC games, you can also play different kind of PS, Gamecube, PS2, etc. emulators.
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Apples licensing agreements for their software stipulates that they only be run on specific hardware.

muncheese said:
Apples licensing agreements for their software stipulates that they only be run on specific hardware.
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Better yet, by law "Illegal Distributing of such" will be prosecuted and punishable by law.
as such, licensing agreement does not constitute unless it is being publicly distributed.
Although, realistically this port will never happen and if it will, i am not convinced that it will be very soon.

how about, FU*K the fruit maker, and do what ever we like..
only distribute an possible port in secret..?
But i really doubt this will ever happen, but an emulator or somthing similar for the apps would be NICE..

Doing so will be a giant backward step.

how about, FU*K the fruit maker, and do what ever we like..
only distribute an possible port in secret..?
But i really doubt this will ever happen, but an emulator or somthing similar for the apps would be NICE..
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how about, FU*K the fruit maker, and do what ever we like..
only distribute an possible port in secret..?
But i really doubt this will ever happen, but an emulator or somthing similar for the apps would be NICE..
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I totally agree.. I mean android market is getting bigger each day and getting more popular as verizon's advertisements for the android keeps getting better.
but, to be able to run iphone apps to our beloved nexus one will be a big achievement as there are still lots of iphone apps that i wish to be developed for Android as well, like my favorite Dakeno!
oh by the way this tapatalk app is amazing!
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Just because the Android Market is growing, that doesn't necessarily mean that anything is exactly getting better. Apple is still beating us in the game department, and due to their sponsors - they have apps that are like... important? Or, well, more useful to some..
I don't know if Android will ever reach that polished level the iPhone has, regarding to apps that is. I don't even play games really on my phone, if they looked up to par.. then maybe. Android is progressing, though.

Just developed a terrible rash on my taint after reading this thread. Great.
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Eclair~ said:
Just because the Android Market is growing, that doesn't necessarily mean that anything is exactly getting better. Apple is still beating us in the game department, and due to their sponsors - they have apps that are like... important? Or, well, more useful to some..
I don't know if Android will ever reach that polished level the iPhone has, regarding to apps that is. I don't even play games really on my phone, if they looked up to par.. then maybe. Android is progressing, though.
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Your comparing an OS that is in its Third/Fourth Iteration to one that is in its Second. To say that iPhone OS 2.0 was fluid and completely polished would be a huge lie. Back then, it did not have the ridiculous catalog of apps that it does now, nor was it as fast as it is now. In time, when Android reaches 3.0, 3.5, 4.0, ect, you will see Android reach a level of polish that the iPhone OS has. Right now, Android is seeing a huge increase in market-share. With this will come developers. With developers, more quality apps will come. Android has the momentum to do it. I would believe that Android will become polished by the end of the year, possibly early next year based off of its growth and progression.

[Q] Will Gaming on Captivate ever take advantage...

Hey everyone, i was looking online about the GPU of the Captivate VS. The Iphone 4. If what i read was correct, the captivate has a much better GPU than the iphone. The only thing i was wondering, is will there ever be a real use of this?
I personally would love to have some of the games that are on the iphone on my captivate.
For example, super monkey ball, or those new games coming out by epic games and ID. They have truly astonishing graphics and look really really awesome.
And as a side question, there would be no easy way of porting an ios game to android or running ios on the captivate, right?

eternalcold said:
Hey everyone, i was looking online about the GPU of the Captivate VS. The Iphone 4. If what i read was correct, the captivate has a much better GPU than the iphone. The only thing i was wondering, is will there ever be a real use of this?
I personally would love to have some of the games that are on the iphone on my captivate.
For example, super monkey ball, or those new games coming out by epic games and ID. They have truly astonishing graphics and look really really awesome.
And as a side question, there would be no easy way of porting an ios game to android or running ios on the captivate, right?
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It's upto the game developers to take their skills onto android. I hope they will, but android should at least get rid of paid apps piracy in order for that to happen (same thing with iPhone's jailbreaking, but I don't know how the devs there are still staying with iOS)

Is piracy a problem on Android? It was all over the iPhone community but I've never seen a mention of it here. Anytime anyone mentions it no one thinks it's remotely a good idea because of how open Android is, a pirated app could access any of your data and do whatever it wanted.

MaxRabbit said:
Is piracy a problem on Android? It was all over the iPhone community but I've never seen a mention of it here. Anytime anyone mentions it no one thinks it's remotely a good idea because of how open Android is, a pirated app could access any of your data and do whatever it wanted.
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Unfortunately, it is an issue. Some of the newby XDA members don't read the rules and have been posting links and downloads to apps that they shouldn't be. There's already a few websites set up that perform the same function as Appulo.us and Apptrackr do for the iPhone. And let's not forget the dozens of torrents that are out there. And a pirated app can do the same thing on an iPhone in regards to your data, there have already been a couple cases if I recall about apps "calling home" with your data.

Its becouse they make good money on the ios platform so they dont give a **** about android. Simple
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that doesnt make sense because there are more android phones than iphones. i think there aren't enough android phones with great gpus quite yet. there are the galaxy s series which are still relitively unknown and not as well recognised as the droid x and iphone. the the droid xz while better than the evo in 3d is still only about half of what the galaxy s phones are doing. the other phones that are near galaxy s performance in that area are the g2 and mytouch 4g which are faster in other areas, but both being on t-mobile restricts the userbase. i think that the gaming will pick up with the introduction of of more htc phones built with the newwer qualcom chips and the introduction of more android tabs. so all in all we will likely be looking at buying our next phones before we take full advantage of this one.
there are already good ports from the pc of older games like quake and doom but the touchscreen controls aren't that good. may be better with a bluetooth game pad.

[Rant] iPhone 4 just works? Really?

Hey peeps and SGS owners. How many of you get the usual "iPhone 4 just works," "the iPhone is so much faster," "iPhone don't feel buggy," and the infamous "why didn't you get iPhone 4 instead?" comments from iPhags around you? I personally get them almost everyday.
Jeez, leave us alone. I mean, really? It just works? I bet you spend an hour trying to sort your music files into iTunes. I merely drag and drop. It's faster? Yeah, cause it's simply app pages. I get that smoothness without widgets. Feel buggy? Well, guess what, I customise my whole system myself, kernels, filesystems, roms. Why I didn't get the iPhone? Cause I simply chose not to.
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Good night fellas. Sorry had some boosts and it's 4 in the morning now. I don't know, just a bad day.

haha
seriously dude....iphone 4 just works
(just tryin to screw around with your head )

Problem is, it doesn't.

You have to admit (and if u don't you you self are a fag) that iphones are good bits of kit and shouldn't be flamed just for being an "iphone". It's the users of iphones who are the novices who think if it aint an iphone it's junk
But saying that my boss brought me his iphone4 it was totally dead it was fine batt was almost full and just died. I then did a google and found litterally hundrends and hundreds of posts similar to the on below
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=11766746
So when ppl tell u their phone is th dog bollox and nothing does compare then show em threads like above.

At the end of the day i can see the benefits of both systems.
People say iphones work, well yes they do. But that's because apple have locked the thing down so hard it doesn't get the chance not to work. Iphones were designed for people who just want stuff to work and be simple.
People say android is buggy, etc. Well yeah at certain times things don't work as planned. But it normally gets fixed in no time. And on the plus side android seems capable of much more than ios.
Iphone is for coffee shop gurus.
Android is for people more than computer literate.
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Ironically, most of the comments I got from iPhone's owner is: Good to see there's something else. But then, they know I wouldn't put my money on an apple thinggy!
And I agree that iPhone is for the "Wanabe" geek as a new gizmo to show off with.
Android is for the reel geeks that uses the thing!

I completely agree with OP hell I even had my grandad trying to say the Iphone 4 just worked so I just death gripped it soon shut him up plus showed him about a dozen apps you'd have to pay for the I phone equivalents that do just work gnu/gpl ftw
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Iphone is like a communist state, you're not allowed to do this and that. Mr Jobs is like a dictator, dictating how one would use their phone. Its like freedom from a set of choice. Jailbroken your iphone is like capital punishment. Are you tired of generic home screen on the iphone? Android is democracy, do what like. Everytime people saw my galxyS with all the mods, its like a north korean saw a car for the first time. Sheeps use iphone, real people use android.
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okpc said:
Iphone is like a communist state, you're not allowed to do this and that. Mr Jobs is like a dictator, dictating how one would use their phone. Its like freedom from a set of choice. Jailbroken your iphone is like capital punishment. Are you tired of generic home screen on the iphone? Android is democracy, do what like. Everytime people saw my galxyS with all the mods, its like a north korean saw a car for the first time. Sheeps use iphone, real people use android.
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QFT my friend!

Wow, you guys are sensible. For once, I get comments that are not on a whole unjust to one side only. Haha. I don't hate iPhone 4, I just hate iOS and the users. I like the hardware though. Yeah, like communists. That's right!
And then, there's also jailbroken iPhone users. They think they are on top of the world with jailbreak.
How does this thread end up in Q&A? There should be a miscellaneous section for SGS users.

I don't get all the people that claim Android's are for technical people or "real geeks". That's a load of crap, Android is just as easy to use. It never forces you into the technical stuff.
Homescreens and the notification bar are two reasons I'd never leave Android for iOS. Just makes it so much nicer to use for me.
iPhones are great and all, but over hyped. They just have great marketing.

Android are easy use but if you have to mod everything yourself, its very technical but possible. Thats why thanks to people here, most of the hard yack are already done for you.
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Maddmatt said:
I don't get all the people that claim Android's are for technical people or "real geeks". That's a load of crap, Android is just as easy to use. It never forces you into the technical stuff.
Homescreens and the notification bar are two reasons I'd never leave Android for iOS. Just makes it so much nicer to use for me.
iPhones are great and all, but over hyped. They just have great marketing.
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I actually do think that android's are for more technically inclined people. The one thing about iphones is that they are simple. There are minimal bugs, and minimal number of configs. Other people can solve their problems quickly, and you won't have issues with incompatible apps and so on..
And a phone should be like its user.. Android users are more complex

okpc said:
Iphone is like a communist state, you're not allowed to do this and that. Mr Jobs is like a dictator, dictating how one would use their phone. Its like freedom from a set of choice. Jailbroken your iphone is like capital punishment. Are you tired of generic home screen on the iphone? Android is democracy, do what like. Everytime people saw my galxyS with all the mods, its like a north korean saw a car for the first time.
Sheeps use iphone, real people use android.
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Good post, okpc +1

It's not so much that android is for more technical people, but rather, it's for more adventurous people. Sure, the iphone has its jailbreak, but even the freedom that affords is limited. With android, the potential for personal customization is as limited as your uber-geek skills.

nwsk said:
I actually do think that android's are for more technically inclined people. The one thing about iphones is that they are simple. There are minimal bugs, and minimal number of configs. Other people can solve their problems quickly, and you won't have issues with incompatible apps and so on..
And a phone should be like its user.. Android users are more complex
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It's simple if you have apple gear.. The moment you have any flacs or other formats, things get tricky.

I came from an iPhone and the Galaxy S is my first Android device.
iPhone, well generally it works but it's really tied down... until you jailbreak it and throw all sorts of funky stuff from Cydia/Rock with fancy MobileSubstrate stuff. But it's still very uncomparable to what Android has to offer once you do the customizing.
Android in general(I guess?), is for generally more technically inclined or as someone mentioned, adventurous personals. I've seen friends with an Android device and let me tell you, they are MOSTLY very heavily modded with custom ROMs/Kernels... you name it!
So an Android device by itself, is like a jailbroken iPhone. A rooted Android with custom ROMs/Kernels is... asdfghjkl;kjhgfd - sorry, I was wiping jizz off my keyboard.

When iphone users look at my galaxy s they normally say "it's very like the iphone" to which I always reply "yah it is....... Only better"
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Good that people have a choice nowadays ....
There was a time where no smartphone could compete with the iPhone, even after it been over 2 years on the market.
But you can say whatever you want about Apple .. they have a very sophisticated sense for clean and functional design. Be it the hardware or the software. They have very strict design guidelines, and thats the reason the apps are often looking more polished.
So, for people who are very visually-orientated, iPhone would be a natural choice. For the tech-savy folks, Android is the clear winner.

Adevem said:
I came from an iPhone and the Galaxy S is my first Android device.
iPhone, well generally it works but it's really tied down... until you jailbreak it and throw all sorts of funky stuff from Cydia/Rock with fancy MobileSubstrate stuff. But it's still very uncomparable to what Android has to offer once you do the customizing.
Android in general(I guess?), is for generally more technically inclined or as someone mentioned, adventurous personals. I've seen friends with an Android device and let me tell you, they are MOSTLY very heavily modded with custom ROMs/Kernels... you name it!
So an Android device by itself, is like a jailbroken iPhone. A rooted Android with custom ROMs/Kernels is... asdfghjkl;kjhgfd - sorry, I was wiping jizz off my keyboard.
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LOL that last part! Too excited huh... XD
Oh yeah, I was a iPhone user as well. Dated back to iPod Video era, then to iPod 2G, iPhone 3GS, but I skipped iPhone 4, that's when Android came in. People start to realise that there are other smartphones worth keeping, not symbian btw.

Nokia to beat Android?

Here's the article: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/nokia-our-first-priority-is-beating-android/
My first thoughts were....hahahaha! In their dreams.
Open source can't be beat, simple as that. But Google do need to come up with a better strategy for implementing their OS on the devices otherwise fragmentation will drive potential customers away.
In my view WP7 is a step backwards, the UI is horrible with home being filed with tons of tiles that you have to scroll through, no real multitasking, locked down like iOS etc, and now Nokia thinks that this move will beat Android. Are they that arrogant?
I did a speed test comparison between DHD and HD7 and WP7 got its ass smacked, it loaded apps/games much slower.
They should of made a better version of N900, that was not a bad phone but could of been a monster.
Your thoughts?

The day that Nokia has dominance over Android, I will get an iphone. I currently own the 1 and only Evo 4g, rooted, stock. (wireless tether of course).

yeah i think nokia is making a bad move

lol good old nokia trying to make a comeback...

I honestly don't know who even carries Nokia phones anymore They once made really nice phones. Windows mobile or phone 7 or what ever they are calling it this year is in the same boat imo. I carried wm since the HTC 8125. And year after year I pationatly waited for ms to get it right, and they never did. It did get better in terms of reliability but I still had to reset my tilt 2 a few times a week.
I think the team up could be good for them but I could care less.
To me, It's like 2 old men in your neighborhood teaming up and thinking they are gonna take back that snow shoveling biz that they had when they were kids all the while everyone already has the youngsters down the street with their self propelled snow blowers that knock out the jobs in no time.
They pissed off most of us loyal wm folks along time ago and you know how that saying about screw me once, screw me twice goes....not gonna happen to me.
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Hmmnn, noki is not going anywhere except in your dreams

Speaking of steps backwards hows the whole no GPU accelerated UI treating you guys? I'm loving having a homescreen that doesnt look like an iphone ripoff. Nokia has an astounding market share in the European market, they have the power to help drive WP7 much higher. Call it a step backwards if you'd like. It's nice to not have to flash a new rom at least once a week to have a functional phone.

I like Nokias phones. My brother has the n8 and the camera is amazing! hopefully this works out and I'll get a nokia with a xenon flash

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Speaking of steps backwards hows the whole no GPU accelerated UI treating you guys? I'm loving having a homescreen that doesnt look like an iphone ripoff. Nokia has an astounding market share in the European market, they have the power to help drive WP7 much higher. Call it a step backwards if you'd like. It's nice to not have to flash a new rom at least once a week to have a functional phone.
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There it is, that's what I was waiting for.
UI is hardware accelerated on 2.3 and up, even 2.2 can have it with a minor file modification. How the no copy/paste going? Or hows the whole can't edit a email when forwarding going? When M$ bring out an update will you jump around like a little schoolgirl and call it innovation? C'mon man, the OS is seriously lacking the most important features, it's shameful.
Sure stock UIs layout is slightly like iPhones but looks nothing like it though. You see, I can make the UI looks how I want which fits my needs, not what a few guys think it should be.
Flashing ROMs has nothing to do with having a functional phone, it's only to improve it further and bring out the potential.
Nokia may help with a few sales but many longtime fans will turn around and look elsewhere for a phone to fulfill their needs.

Nokia wont ever beat android
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Why not??? Nokia will beat Android... Didnt u read the article?

ErOR22 said:
There it is, that's what I was waiting for.
UI is hardware accelerated on 2.3 and up, even 2.2 can have it with a minor file modification. How the no copy/paste going? Or hows the whole can't edit a email when forwarding going? When M$ bring out an update will you jump around like a little schoolgirl and call it innovation? C'mon man, the OS is seriously lacking the most important features, it's shameful.
Sure stock UIs layout is slightly like iPhones but looks nothing like it though. You see, I can make the UI looks how I want which fits my needs, not what a few guys think it should be.
Flashing ROMs has nothing to do with having a functional phone, it's only to improve it further and bring out the potential.
Nokia may help with a few sales but many longtime fans will turn around and look elsewhere for a phone to fulfill their needs.
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Important features? in the 2 years I had android I can not remember a single occurrence in which I used C&P or needed to edit a forwarded email. Would it be nice? Sure. Is it necessary? Not at all. The point is while android has these features most of them are haphazardly thrown together and hardly functional where what WP7 has (even though it is lacking some features) truly works without having to jump through hoops. GPU acceleration is possible apparently on 2.3 plus but due to fragmentation and other issues it isn't implemented. If you can truly say the vibrant with its impossible lag or the dodgy touchscreen on the cliq or any of the other ill built phones were functional before custom roms your much more prone to fanboyism than I. It's nice to have a phone that really works, android was a low-end alternative to the iphone, putting it on high end devices is like throwing a Chevy cavalier engine in a lambo, it just makes them look bad except to the community thats always flashing roms which frankl, I dont have the time for any more.

I think Nokia partnering with Microsoft to make WP7 phones is a dumb move. Elop was quoted as saying Nokia is like being on a burning oil platform in the North Sea. So what he wants to do, is to jump onto another burning oil platform called WP7? I think it's entirely due to the fact that Elop is a former Microsoft exec!
I wasn't at all surprised, when I read an article yesterday that said investors were so upset with the news that Nokia stock price fell 14% and many Nokia employees were so upset, they used flex time and left work early.
What I think Nokia should have done, is partnered with Google and used Android. These new phones should be supplied with some kind of proprietary libraries or emulation that only works in Nokia phones to allow existing Symbian apps to run seamlessly. That way, it would provide a practical upgrade path for existing Nokia phone owners. This worked great for Apple when they went to OS X which was a completely different UNIX-based architecture, but used Rosetta to allow old PPC Mac OS apps to run. They could even market a play on words with Symbian related to symbiosis.
I just don't see how going to the smartphone platform with the least market share will help matters. WP7 has less market share than even old WinMo 6.x according to current stats.

GnatGoSplat said:
I think Nokia partnering with Microsoft to make WP7 phones is a dumb move. Elop was quoted as saying Nokia is like being on a burning oil platform in the North Sea. So what he wants to do, is to jump onto another burning oil platform called WP7? I think it's entirely due to the fact that Elop is a former Microsoft exec!
I wasn't at all surprised, when I read an article yesterday that said investors were so upset with the news that Nokia stock price fell 14% and many Nokia employees were so upset, they used flex time and left work early.
What I think Nokia should have done, is partnered with Google and used Android. These new phones should be supplied with some kind of proprietary libraries or emulation that only works in Nokia phones to allow existing Symbian apps to run seamlessly. That way, it would provide a practical upgrade path for existing Nokia phone owners. This worked great for Apple when they went to OS X which was a completely different UNIX-based architecture, but used Rosetta to allow old PPC Mac OS apps to run. They could even market a play on words with Symbian related to symbiosis.
I just don't see how going to the smartphone platform with the least market share will help matters. WP7 has less market share than even old WinMo 6.x according to current stats.
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Your whole argument is based on the foundation that WP7 in 4 months didn't sell as much as WM did since 03? Really? Ya don't say? Their choices were either be just another fish in the android OEM pool that would have received no more attention and no more rights than any other or be THE manufacturer of WP7. Really though, why would you jump from marketing symbian to marketing some re-skinned version of android... that's like jumping from Windows ME to windows Vista. They're both buggy and both require tons of modification before they're usable. Android only sold because it was marketed by google and essentially looked like a low-end iphone for every carrier. WP7 is innovation, it currently lacks a few basic features but what it does have works and thats more than any other OS except iOS can say and honestly, who wants those hardware limitations and ugly UI?

Well, we all know what Vic Gundotra thinks about this...

z33dev33l said:
Your whole argument is based on the foundation that WP7 in 4 months didn't sell as much as WM did since 03? Really? Ya don't say? Their choices were either be just another fish in the android OEM pool that would have received no more attention and no more rights than any other or be THE manufacturer of WP7. Really though, why would you jump from marketing symbian to marketing some re-skinned version of android... that's like jumping from Windows ME to windows Vista. They're both buggy and both require tons of modification before they're usable. Android only sold because it was marketed by google and essentially looked like a low-end iphone for every carrier. WP7 is innovation, it currently lacks a few basic features but what it does have works and thats more than any other OS except iOS can say and honestly, who wants those hardware limitations and ugly UI?
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No, my whole argument is based on WP7 being a sales FAIL. The comparison to WM is only a point of reference, because it's generally well accepted that except for a few fanboys, nobody likes WM.
No, their choices were to use Android, a product that people actually WANT, vs WP7, a product that nobody wants. It doesn't matter how awesome or innovative you may think WP7 is, if nobody wants it, nobody's going to buy it. So if Nokia wants to make money, and unless I'm mistaken, but all companies exist to do one thing and that is make money, they should choose the platform that makes money rather than one nobody wants.
You're saying iOS has an ugly UI? Compared to WP7? Seriously? For most people I know (and according to sales figures, most people worldwide), the UI is what turned them off to WP7 and drove them to Android or iOS.

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Important features? in the 2 years I had android I can not remember a single occurrence in which I used C&P or needed to edit a forwarded email. Would it be nice? Sure. Is it necessary? Not at all. The point is while android has these features most of them are haphazardly thrown together and hardly functional where what WP7 has (even though it is lacking some features) truly works without having to jump through hoops. GPU acceleration is possible apparently on 2.3 plus but due to fragmentation and other issues it isn't implemented. If you can truly say the vibrant with its impossible lag or the dodgy touchscreen on the cliq or any of the other ill built phones were functional before custom roms your much more prone to fanboyism than I. It's nice to have a phone that really works, android was a low-end alternative to the iphone, putting it on high end devices is like throwing a Chevy cavalier engine in a lambo, it just makes them look bad except to the community thats always flashing roms which frankl, I dont have the time for any more.
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lol wut?
This is basic functionality I use most days. Even if I used it monthly the whole point is that when I need it it's there, thats the power of android. You don't need all the features every day, but when you do need it its all there ready.

I will take a speedy UI and no c&p over the opposite any day. No one dropped wp7 and turned to Android or IOS because of the UI. No one has used wp7 because they're a fanboy of either of the other oses and think anything else is wrong. Wp7 in its first poor iteration has a more complete feeling than any of the 30ish Android devices I've owned and that's just sad. Wp7 is small now because people fear change regardless of how much smoother the user experience is.

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I will take a speedy UI and no c&p over the opposite any day. No one dropped wp7 and turned to Android or IOS because of the UI. No one has used wp7 because they're a fanboy of either of the other oses and think anything else is wrong. Wp7 in its first poor iteration has a more complete feeling than any of the 30ish Android devices I've owned and that's just sad. Wp7 is small now because people fear change regardless of how much smoother the user experience is.
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Not true. The only fanboys I know are on this site. I've recently talked to many smartphone n00bs who are getting a smartphone for the first time. Just from playing with the phone in the showroom, they narrow it down to Android or iPhone. WP7 is never even considered. Some people will switch from Android to iPhone and vice versa. People on this forum excluded, I don't know anyone who has even considered going from iPhone to WP7 or Android to WP7. Even my wife, who isn't even remotely a fanboy, has no interest in WP7 simply because she doesn't like how, "it looks so plain and boring". Maybe people would love WP7 if they actually used it for awhile, but Microsoft can't even get them through the door, much less reel them in.

Wp7 needs a mascot like a bald guy in a turtleneck or a little green robot. Then it would be srsbiz.

Anyone else misses their iPhones?

Just wondering if there is a lot of people here that have had the iPhone prior til an android device. How do you like the transition?
I have had the O2X for a month and i can say that i really miss my iPhone So much more smooth, fast, battery life... And if anything goes wrong you have the iTunes backup so you dont need to be an expert til reflash with NVflash and you dont loose all your apps and settings...

I'm using a Motorola Milestone/Droid, and I really don't miss my iPhone 3G. The thing was horribly slow. Zero multi-tasking. Screen resolution was very low compared. Hardware wise, it was a real improvement. I'm running at 1GHz now with CM7.
In the software front, I really like, and prefer, how Android handle things. Apple is too control freak. I want emulator and ****!
But I have to say that the lack of proper backup in Android is really lame. iTunes can be really slow, but at least it does a proper sync and backup.
There is absolutely nothing like it in the Android world. Google has to improve its game!

Yes i do miss my 3gs apps on android are really ugly android has a lot of problems but,wanted a bigger screan so here i am using noveka rom 2.2 with honeycomb theme and have android only for
1 month flashed like 30 different roms but if iphone 5 or 4s what ever will change the boring home screen im going back. On android maybee on ice cream sandwitch sorry for my english but im romanian
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Simple
1.Root
2.CWM
3.Nandroid backup of your stock rom
4.Titanium Backup for all ya Apps
If anything goes wrong follow the NvFlash Thread, there are many of people willing to help if you get stuck.
Put ya music on ya sd card and you will never loose it no need to sync
SIMPLE
I have never had an Iphone and will NEVER get one Android is the way forward

Used to have a 3g, and i hated it.
I love the openness of android, and on the hardware side the O2x just blows all the iphones away.
Whar ROM are you using? Since my O2x is way faster than my old iphone, and my buddy's iphone4
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I just bought an iPhone again, even though this phone has great potentiel. It just lack the commitment of LG. I tired of trying out new roms every second day, to get it running as it should from the start. It's a great piece of hardware, but the hardware is only as good as the software running it.... Goodbye LG Mobile it was a laggy experience knowing ya

Thats one thing I will never buy and that is a IPhone. Don't like Apple due to there bringing old tech out and telling everyone its new. I mean come on Facetime, Video calling is years old but because Apple did it. Its AMAZING and been invented by aliens from a future race!.
The IPhone could have a 8 core CPU running at 3GHZ each, but will never give Apple my money knowing that there laughing at all the sheep jumping on the band wangon of every Apple product that ever gets released with the letter I in front.
There OS is closed and controlled. Android isn't the best OS about but it has Openness, yes that is a plus and a negative but I would rather buy a fone that is MINE rather than feeling that Apple have control over what I can and can't do.
I will give credit to Apple though because if it wasnt for them, we wouldnt be where we are now with technology. Also, Apple are good with updates but for me personally...
I would rather buy a £10 basic fone than a IPhone.
Google arent perfect as there just as bad because they want to make money.. The difference is, how they promote and allow different manufacturers to build upon there platform.
All Apple want to do is FORCE everyone Developers and Customers alike. Its a shame people don't see things like this and think everything Apple do is great. The IPhone 5 could have a 500mhz single processor and everyone will say its the best fone out there. With Apple announcing a game that looks like Nokias Snake and telling everyone its a brand new game.
Android is about CHOICE....
Apple is about CONTROL....
Just my personal opinion and understand its not what every thinks lol.

nk7600 said:
Thats one thing I will never buy and that is a IPhone. Don't like Apple due to there bringing old tech out and telling everyone its new. I mean come on Facetime, Video calling is years old but because Apple did it. Its AMAZING and been invented by aliens from a future race!
The IPhone could have a 8 core CPU running at 3GHZ each, but will never give Apple my money knowing that there laughing at all the sheep jumping on the band wangon of every Apple product that ever gets released with the letter I in front.
There OS is closed and controlled. Android isn't the best OS about but it has Openness, yes that is a plus and a negative but I would rather buy a fone that is MINE rather than feeling that Apple have control over what I can and can't do.
I will give credit to Apple though because if it wasnt for them, we wouldnt be where we are now with technology. Also, Apple are good with updates but for me personally...
I would rather buy a £10 basic fone than a IPhone.
Google arent perfect as there just as bad because they want to make money.. The difference is, how they promote and allow different manufacturers to build upon there platform.
All Apple want to do is FORCE everyone Developers and Customers alike. Its a shame people don't see things like this and think everything Apple do is great. The IPhone 5 could have a 500mhz single processor and everyone will say its the best fone out there. With Apple announcing a game that looks like Nokias Snake and telling everyone its a brand new game.
Android is about CHOICE....
Apple is about CONTROL....
Just my personal opinion and understand its not what every thinks lol.
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I can see that u never had an iphone iphone is not about control for that is cydia like rooting on android .facetime i have seen people use it to talk but a normal videocall nobody used it why? Becouse its **** compared to face time i used it and never used a video call whay again? Becouse its **** im a proud owner of lg optimus 2x but apple is light years away
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Exchange it for an iPhone then you freaking whino.
Useless to open a thread for every brainfart of yours...
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Foetsie said:
Exchange it for an iPhone then you freaking whino.
Useless to open a thread for every brainfart of yours...
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Nop gone keep it ) starting to like it
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nk7600 said:
Thats one thing I will never buy and that is a IPhone. Don't like Apple due to there bringing old tech out and telling everyone its new. I mean come on Facetime, Video calling is years old but because Apple did it. Its AMAZING and been invented by aliens from a future race!.
The IPhone could have a 8 core CPU running at 3GHZ each, but will never give Apple my money knowing that there laughing at all the sheep jumping on the band wangon of every Apple product that ever gets released with the letter I in front.
There OS is closed and controlled. Android isn't the best OS about but it has Openness, yes that is a plus and a negative but I would rather buy a fone that is MINE rather than feeling that Apple have control over what I can and can't do.
I will give credit to Apple though because if it wasnt for them, we wouldnt be where we are now with technology. Also, Apple are good with updates but for me personally...
I would rather buy a £10 basic fone than a IPhone.
Google arent perfect as there just as bad because they want to make money.. The difference is, how they promote and allow different manufacturers to build upon there platform.
All Apple want to do is FORCE everyone Developers and Customers alike. Its a shame people don't see things like this and think everything Apple do is great. The IPhone 5 could have a 500mhz single processor and everyone will say its the best fone out there. With Apple announcing a game that looks like Nokias Snake and telling everyone its a brand new game.
Android is about CHOICE....
Apple is about CONTROL....
Just my personal opinion and understand its not what every thinks lol.
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I would say, that i'm not an apple fan boy, it was just the phone i had before the O2X, and i was quite satisfied with it. The o2x was my first android phone, and i do like the google platform. For me, it was more the lg software provided with the phone, that made me go back. I know there are heaps of custom roms, and i've tried alot, but it always, seemed to cause some other problem, batterydrain/or just poor batterylife/reboots. And with cm7 which has become pretty stable, i still experienced the sound bug, and i use my phone as mp3 player aswell, so it got pretty annoying. I dunno if i'm gonna keep the o2x, I might, just to see what will be provided for it, in the next couple of months. The hardware inside the phone, is quite awesome, it's just sad that LG doesn't know how to use it, but they might end up getting back in the game.

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its your first android phone and yet your speaking like you know how other android phones perform. you're telling us that it's Lg's fault that you are not enjoying your android phone but you haven't tried androids from Htc, samsung, motorola, and SE, im not an LG fanboy but this is my 2nd phone from them and so far im very pleased. I've been using lots of android phone and my O2x is by far the best and the smoothest. battery life is just the same as my previous galaxy S but 3x better than my desire HD.
i did have an iphone 3GS but the restrictions and the boring and inefficient UI brought me to android. and i hate i-tunes. i hat steve jobs pushing me to use -itunes like im some kind of illiterate uneducated old man. and im 22 years old.
why can't i just use my 3Gs just like any other storage device. drag and drop into a folder and then bam!

I don`t miss my iphone 3gs at all!
Love my o2x as it is. I would not trade my o2x for iphone 4 even for iphone 5 when it comes!
My wife just switched from iphone 4 to galaxy s2 and she loves it as well.
Simpler to use, drag and drop music, backups, possibilities, great apps as well, amazing support from devs, much more customisable, fun to use and great deal of learning about linux if you are into modding. You can do crazy **** with it as well: runs nmap, metasploit, backtrack 5 and so on...

I had an iphone 3g / 4 before this. I switched to this phone and i sold both the iphones.
Reasons why i like android more than ios:
- Itunes sucks! Seriously, i hate that program so much.
- widgets
- downpullable status bar ( and dont come up with sbsettings, because thats not part of ios)
- theming
- custom roms which actually add new features to your phone
- google synch, i love being able to nvflash this phone to 0 and install a custom rom afterwhich you just sign up with the google account and all the contacts and applications are back. Again, F#ck i tunes.
- iphone feels small,really small.
Things i like about iphone:
- They work 100% out of the box
- All software is/feels the same
- research has shown that people with an iphone have more sex than people without one. Works out well for me, i just say mine is better than the iphone
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yep. the widget is a big + factor to me.
i hate clicking apps just to see my damn calendar and appointments...
i had more *** when i began using my O2x :0

peacekeeper05 said:
i had more *** when i began using my O2x :0
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Thats because you can actually see when your almost late for appointments
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its your first android phone and yet your speaking like you know how other android phones perform. you're telling us that it's Lg's fault that you are not enjoying your android phone but you haven't tried androids from Htc, samsung, motorola, and SE, im not an LG fanboy but this is my 2nd phone from them and so far im very pleased. I've been using lots of android phone and my O2x is by far the best and the smoothest. battery life is just the same as my previous galaxy S but 3x better than my desire HD.
i did have an iphone 3GS but the restrictions and the boring and inefficient UI brought me to android. and i hate i-tunes. i hat steve jobs pushing me to use -itunes like im some kind of illiterate uneducated old man. and im 22 years old.
why can't i just use my 3Gs just like any other storage device. drag and drop into a folder and then bam!
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Well i'm a android noob then Well my experience is that the lg launcher is pretty laggy, compared to what i expected from lg 2xspeed which it's called in some countries. And yeah you can install other launchers, but for me, a android noob, I would have expected the first hand experience to be alot better. I'm not agains android, i quite like the openess and the widgets. But for me the iphone forfill my needs more at the time being. But it seems that when the word iphone is writen, ppl go "bolistic". I'm not for or against the different platforms, that's why i also said, that i might keep the lg2x to see what it brings in the future, cause i like it, but i'm just disappointed with the software lg has provided. And yes i find it poor software, since for me, out of the box experience means alot, and that feeling didn't satisfy me at all. But that is just my oppinion!!! I didn't mean to start an apple/android war, since i like both platforms.

You didn't expect a android vs iphone war when you opened this thread? you're right, go back to your simple Iphone.

Acti666 said:
You didn't expect a android vs iphone war when you opened this thread? you're right, go back to your simple Iphone.
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I didn't start this thread

I did try iphone 4 before switching to android.
But damn it, Apple has got a really big plus on his side, i mean iOS just works. You just click and it works!
Look at the crappy thing that LG did, they almost copyed everything to apple, but they didn't learn that power is nothing without control. I personally cry when i see the shietty UI they implemented that's capable to make a Dual-Core lag lol.
I will just wait iphone 4s or 5 whatever is called to go back to Apple. I just gave back my iphone 4 cuz of the antenna-gate.