I have friends who have the Vibrant, Epic, and Captivate. All the screens look good, but the Captivate already has a tiny scratch.
Now nothing is indestructible, but then i found this video on youtube which made me think, is the glass different on each phone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EimSyAIuDoI
I put an invisible shield on my phone which made it "orange-peely" and finally after seeing a number of tests on the glass, including putting the phone into a bag of metal shards and nails and screws and mashing it up, I decided to take it off. I have been using the phone since it was released now, with only a couple days in invisishield and I've had it in my pocket with my keys the whole time and the screen is flawless. Dropped it at least a couple times (I have a case on it, but nothing protecting the screen otherwise).
I dunno. It would suck major ass to get the screen scratched, so it's probably smart to put one on, but the screen seems solid. I don't know if I'd trust a video from the company that makes invisishield, honestly. It's kind of like the cigarette companies telling congress that they swear, they aren't harmful or addictive.
Mine was in the boot of a moped I laid down a couple weeks ago in the bahamas...not a mark.
Also in my shorts' pocket with grains of sand through the vacation (it's sticky down there)...i wouldn't put my keys in the same pocket though, that's just asking for trouble.
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I too had a screen protector I bought from Seidio. They really have a poor implementation of how to apply the plastic and I could never get the edges to stick even after applying pressure for 15-20 mins. Anyway, I ended up taking the screen protector of after seeing a Korean video of a I9000 getting demolished in various ways and not getting a scratch (up until the moment when they applied a knife directly to the screen and when they dropped it from about 5-6 ft). I have an Amzer case and for the past 3 weeks I have not had a single scratch. That includes incidents with keys or my wallet chain, or the occasional faceplant to the floor. I really think the captivate has at least comparable glass to the gorilla-class glass.
LMAOOO dude in video says "lets make this natural as if you dropped it", then presses and slides it accross concrete...
LMAOOO nothing can withstant a scratch from that not even steel.lol
I have a small scratch after dropping a coin on the screen tried to put invisoble shield but it is ****ty, so i decided to keep it naked, still better than with bubbles and dust..
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I can tell you that the samsung rep shows off the glass to at&t reps, and they rscratch it with kruss to show the durability. It is as advertised.
Mine is scratched, and I didn't do anything except put it in my pocket. No keys and no coins. So this gorilla glass stuff isn't impenetrable.
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Mine is scratched, and I didn't do anything except put it in my pocket. No keys and no coins. So this gorilla glass stuff isn't impenetrable.
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Same here. No idea how but I managed to get two scratches on the screen. No big deal.
I had a screen protector, but got sick of it quick. It s been 3-4 weeks and no scratches. Only protection I have on it is the Bodyglove case. I try to make sure I don't put it in the same pocket I have my keys in though. I'm guessing the scratches a lot of people get are from the sharp edges of a key. A razor will scratch gorilla glass and I've had keys in the past that were pretty sharp on some of the points.
Wait until PETA finds out they're making glass out of gorillas!
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Wait until PETA finds out they're making glass out of gorillas!
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The iPhone gets superior glass made out of endangered mountain gorillas, while we are stuck with inferior product made from the common lowland gorillas.
Hate to break it to you, but Gorilla Glass isn't magical. Just look at the iPhone 4. It's a scratch magnet. Definitely the easiest iphone to scratch by miles. The captivate is the exact same glass, and guess what??? It's scratchable.
From everything I've seen, Gorilla Glass (or the coating on the glass) is very succeptable to micro scratches. Usually vertical scratches (along the grain of the glass) around 1mm to 2mm long. That's what my first Captivate screen did within a day of normal use. I took it back and got another phone and a butt load of screen protectors. My iPhone 4 did the same thing, but seemed to be much easier to scratch. My buddy's Captivate has a scratch that is almost identical to my first Captivate, but more toward the middle of the screen.
I think Gorilla Glass is as close to a full on failed experiment in mobile devices as we've seen recently. I would take the material that the iPhone 3GS screen was made of any day of the week.
I expect to be using this hand-held for the next two years, so within a few days I put on a shield dry as instructed. Hated the bubbles for two weeks before trying water; not much better. Then tried some glasses cleaner from the WalMart vision center; can't even tell the shield is there. Water beaded, but the clener coated and squigyed ou nicely.
Any glass will scratch and out here in the country I don't live or work in a clean environment...
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Hate to break it to you, but Gorilla Glass isn't magical. Just look at the iPhone 4. It's a scratch magnet. Definitely the easiest iphone to scratch by miles. The captivate is the exact same glass, and guess what??? It's scratchable.
From everything I've seen, Gorilla Glass (or the coating on the glass) is very succeptable to micro scratches. Usually vertical scratches (along the grain of the glass) around 1mm to 2mm long. That's what my first Captivate screen did within a day of normal use. I took it back and got another phone and a butt load of screen protectors. My iPhone 4 did the same thing, but seemed to be much easier to scratch. My buddy's Captivate has a scratch that is almost identical to my first Captivate, but more toward the middle of the screen.
I think Gorilla Glass is as close to a full on failed experiment in mobile devices as we've seen recently. I would take the material that the iPhone 3GS screen was made of any day of the week.
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The iPhone is not Gorilla Glass. iPHone uses a hardened silica glass, and Gorilla Glass is made by corning and in their demos is superior to soda glass and silica glass.
Gorilla Glass is not indestructible, but it is also not in the iPhone 4.
I just got a captivate that had a ton of little scratches on the screen out of the box. So much so that the screen has a very rough texture to it. Needless to say I'm returning it, but it just goes to show that the gorilla glass is definitely susceptible to scratches.
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I sure would love to see some photos of all these scratched screens. I was in the AT&T store today and three were on display all beaten to hell but the glass was still flawless.
Now, having said that, the easiest way to scratch this (or any) glass is to put another piece of glass on top of it. Say, for example, laying the phone face down on a glass table. The glass will pull towards one another and if there are specs of dust, dirt, etc on either of the pieces, guess what's going to get dragged across the surface when you go to pick it up...
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The iPhone is not Gorilla Glass. iPHone uses a hardened silica glass, and Gorilla Glass is made by corning and in their demos is superior to soda glass and silica glass.
Gorilla Glass is not indestructible, but it is also not in the iPhone 4.
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From what I've read, the aluminosilicate screen is so similar to Gorilla Glass that it's still unverified if Corning isn't behind the iPhone 4. I'm not contesting your point. I was just going off of what I read. Either way, they both scratched in near identical ways, in nearly the exact time frame, from the same type of usage...
http://www.tested.com/news/whats-so-special-about-iphone-4s-aluminosilicate-glass/429/
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I sure would love to see some photos of all these scratched screens. I was in the AT&T store today and three were on display all beaten to hell but the glass was still flawless.
Now, having said that, the easiest way to scratch this (or any) glass is to put another piece of glass on top of it. Say, for example, laying the phone face down on a glass table. The glass will pull towards one another and if there are specs of dust, dirt, etc on either of the pieces, guess what's going to get dragged across the surface when you go to pick it up...
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I would be more than happy to send you a picture of the phone I took back to the store for the scratched screen... The device was working perfectly at the time, so I was in no rush to get rid of it. The scratch was too distracting to live with.
I'm mostly curious what people are doing with their phones to get so many scratches. I've had mine since release, no screen protector and still no scratches. Have dropped the phone a couple times were it landed face down. I do have a cheap silicon case but that's it heh. Usually carry in my front pocket. Occasionally it ends up in same pocket with my keys/change. So how are so many other people getting scratches, I just don't get it heh.
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When I first bought this screen protector I was kind of worried that it was one that had a wet application. I havent had too much luck when I tried them years ago on my Motorola Razr. Now, I have owned dozens and dozens of different phones and have put on many screen protectors in my time and I must say this was the simplest and the least frustrating one I ever put on! I'm very OCD about air bubbles/ being straight and not peeling at the edges and if there are any I pull it up and replace it, or if I put it on I always never get it to be straight the first time I apply it and have to take it off and start over, which makes the screen protector less sticky and then also tends to dust getting in it and the edge you peeled it off from not sticking right ever again.. come on we all know we have had this stuff happen.. Actually when I buy a cheap screen protector I always by two because I know I will end up messing up the first one...
With the Skinomi It went on ONE time.. Since it's a wet application it was easy to adjust and straighten out without having to pull off the screen protector. I did apply a little extra solution for this reason so I could slide it around easier. So this is the first time I have EVER installed a screen protector and have it be prefect the first time! Not a SINGLE air bubble! I put it on and it was more over to the right side then the left, I was easily able to slide it over and center it correctly.. This screen protector looks 1000 times better than the one I had that came with my otter box commuter case for my Dell Streak. That one had tons of air bubbles(drove me nuts) and dust started to get under the corners
I LOVE THIS Screen protector so much I just ordered it for my Mytouch 4g phone!!! I would suggest getting one of these for sure!
edit: forgot to also mention it comes with free lifetime replacement and it's reusable so if it even does get dirty or start to come off it's easy to wash and reapply not like the ones that have the sticky stuff on the back
Are screen protectors really necessary with Gorilla Glass? I've never bothered with my OG Droid. I figured, if something is abrasive enough to scratch the Gorilla Glass, it'll be abrasive enough to cut through a screen protector.
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Are screen protectors really necessary with Gorilla Glass? I've never bothered with my OG Droid. I figured, if something is abrasive enough to scratch the Gorilla Glass, it'll be abrasive enough to cut through a screen protector.
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I saw a YouTube video of a guy with a phone that has gorilla glass and it was all scratched up. It was actually a video of how he repaired the scratches. My motto: better safe than sorry.
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Are screen protectors really necessary with Gorilla Glass? I've never bothered with my OG Droid. I figured, if something is abrasive enough to scratch the Gorilla Glass, it'll be abrasive enough to cut through a screen protector.
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Here is something from AC on Gorilla Glass..
http://forum.androidcentral.com/epi...en-protector-gorilla-glass-answer-inside.html
"Mine was scratched within a day, nothing else in my pocket but some chapstick. It wasn't huge, but it was visible. I won't dare let my phone go naked now."
"Mine got scratched with nothing but a coin in my pocket. It's a deep one."
http://forum.androidcentral.com/mot...ngsten-carbide-gorilla-glasss-kryptonite.html
I figured, if something is abrasive enough to scratch the Gorilla Glass, it'll be abrasive enough to cut through a screen protector.
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a grain of sand that gets run across a screen would Fu** it up, maybe not as much with GG as non GG but it seems sand is also an enemy of GG. I had a non GG phone with a screen protector on it and I was at the beach and some sand scraped across my screen. It scratched the screen protector(pretty badly) but not the actual screen. So in this case I do think sand or something like that would be abrasive enough to scratch the screen(again maybe not as bad with GG but there still would be SOME scratches) but not abrasive enough to go though the screen protector to the screen
Since the DS7 is "Gorilla Glass" I did not put any screen protector, regrettably I found a scratch on the screen, I am SUPER careful with my gadget, I have it in my laptop case with nothing else next to it all the time. guys put screen protector, gorilla glass is BS.
I have the Dell Venue Pro (along with the Dell Streak 7). The day after I received the Dell Venue Pro, I dropped it on the hard wood floor. It did not break or anything. I was really surprised.
I bought the Skinomi Screen Protector for the Venue Pro, and I was also afraid I would have a difficult time (two Akitas) but it was very easy to put on.
I actually just put the one on for the Dell Streak 7 after reading this (I had already taken it out of the tube and flattened it). It looks pretty good - and from my understanding, they provide lifetime replacements.
I did have to call them because I ordered the wrong one (I ordered through Amazon and the title only said Dell Streak and it was for the 5). Skinomi answered the phone quickly and it was very easy to return.
In terms of resisting scratches, I'd say Skinomi isn't worthy to be called a "screen protector." There is a difference between a product that just makes your screen look "glossy", and a product that makes your screen look glossy in addition to protecting from scratch marks. Skinomi is in the former.
In situations of accidental slips, falls, drops or contact with a hard object, I would prefer Gadgetshieldz around my phone than Skinomi. Some mistakes have happened with the use of Skinomi around my phone, and that's when I realized that for all the glossy look that the product gave my screen, it wasn't even able to resist against scratches, which is the main reason why I got it in the first place.
And isn't that why people get these things in the first place? To protect against scratches, right? Not ONLY to have the phone look glossy for a minute and let it slide back into it's more worn out state.
And it does make sense: The better the screen protector is at resisting scratch marks, the better it is at keeping the device looking "glossy".
I quit using screen protectors on any of my devices that have glass screens. So far a year later, I've yet to scratch a screen.
The glossy ones are too glossy to see in any light.
The matte ones are too rough.
http://bit.ly/TAdai5
Looks like they got the full body one and just the screen protector... been waiting for these!
I've put one of these on my Nexus S, but never on something as big as a tablet... hopefully it's just as easy.
There's so many other screen protectors that are better than zagg. Go with XO skins or BSE.
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There's so many other screen protectors that are better than zagg. Go with XO skins or BSE.
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Where's the best place to get them and is there a warranty?
Online on their respective websites, bestskinsever.com, xoskins,com, etc. They all have lifetime warranties I believe.
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There's so many other screen protectors that are better than zagg. Go with XO skins or BSE.
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Just curious on how they are better ? Just the pricfe or quality?
I've had a Screen protector from Zagg on my SGS2 since day 1 and seems perfect . Is the touch feeling different on those ?
why in the world would you want to put a screen protector on one of these? you can never get them on perfect and even when placed really good they still ruin the look and feel of the screen in my opinion. also dont worry about the screen anyway- they are practically indestructible/unscratchable with the new glass they use. search youtube for gorilla glass 2 and see for yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT8xI4PEU8c
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Just curious on how they are better ? Just the pricfe or quality?
I've had a Screen protector from Zagg on my SGS2 since day 1 and seems perfect . Is the touch feeling different on those ?
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A lot less orange peel, don't feel as rubbery, cheaper.
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why in the world would you want to put a screen protector on one of these? you can never get them on perfect and even when placed really good they still ruin the look and feel of the screen in my opinion. also dont worry about the screen anyway- they are practically indestructible/unscratchable with the new glass they use. search youtube for gorilla glass 2 and see for yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT8xI4PEU8c
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Because sand will scratch the glass regardless. It's like you don't understand how minerals work. silica has a hardness of 7. gorilla glass is ~6.4. Also, gorilla Glass 2 is thinner than gorilla glass 1, so it will shatter easier when dropped.
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A lot less orange peel, don't feel as rubbery, cheaper.
Because sand will scratch the glass regardless. It's like you don't understand how minerals work. silica has a hardness of 7. gorilla glass is ~6.4. Also, gorilla Glass 2 is thinner than gorilla glass 1, so it will shatter easier when dropped.
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First: Not sure where your ~6.4 number is coming from. Everything i have seen reports it between 7 and 9. Corning uses a different type of test for abrasion so there is no official mohs hardness number.
Second: What the heck are you doing with your tablet that you are that worried about getting sand on it? I have had my phone(s) on construction sites and in our laboratory full of soil, sand, rock, concrete, etc every day and havent scratched one of them once since i got one that has this glass. If it can not scratch under the abuse i give it at work it can survive anything most other people can throw at it. If you get some sand or something on the screen, gently wipe it off and it will be fine. Big thing you need to worry about scratching it is diamonds and other gems from jewelry or maybe the corundrum off of sandpaper or emery boards.
Third: Gorilla glass 2 is thinner but "Corning announced Gorilla Glass 2, a glass 20 percent thinner than the original material offering the same scratch resistance, the same strength and enhanced touch-sensitivity." Either way, a plastic film on the screen isnt going to help protect the screen from breaking in a drop- at best it will hold all the broken pieces together. Its adding no impact resistance to the glass.
My point was only this- why ruin the look at feel of the beautiful screen on this thing when corning and others have spent enormous amounts of money developing glass for these so you don't have to bother with a screen protector. Save your money and buy a nice case to carry it in when you aren't using it and you'll be fine.
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First: Not sure where your ~6.4 number is coming from. Everything i have seen reports it between 7 and 9. Corning uses a different type of test for abrasion so there is no official mohs hardness number.
Second: What the heck are you doing with your tablet that you are that worried about getting sand on it? I have had my phone(s) on construction sites and in our laboratory full of soil, sand, rock, concrete, etc every day and havent scratched one of them once since i got one that has this glass. If it can not scratch under the abuse i give it at work it can survive anything most other people can throw at it. If you get some sand or something on the screen, gently wipe it off and it will be fine. Big thing you need to worry about scratching it is diamonds and other gems from jewelry or maybe the corundrum off of sandpaper or emery boards.
Third: Gorilla glass 2 is thinner but "Corning announced Gorilla Glass 2, a glass 20 percent thinner than the original material offering the same scratch resistance, the same strength and enhanced touch-sensitivity." Either way, a plastic film on the screen isnt going to help protect the screen from breaking in a drop- at best it will hold all the broken pieces together. Its adding no impact resistance to the glass.
My point was only this- why ruin the look at feel of the beautiful screen on this thing when corning and others have spent enormous amounts of money developing glass for these so you don't have to bother with a screen protector. Save your money and buy a nice case to carry it in when you aren't using it and you'll be fine.
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You do realise that sand is literally everywhere right? It's in your pockets, on your table, etc. http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/wa1g0/gorilla_glass_2_is_overhyped_there_are_a_ton_of/
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s3/579703-so-much-scratch-resistant-gorilla-glass-2-a.html
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...ss-2-already-scratched-very-disappointed.html
Oh look, people managed to scratch their gorilla glass 2 phone in their pocket. It's merely scratch resistant and not scratch proof.
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Oh look, people managed to scratch their gorilla glass 2 phone in their pocket. It's merely scratch resistant and not scratch proof.
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Yeah, so put it in a case before putting it in your pocket, like the guy was saying.
You do that, you don't really need a screen protector.
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You do realise that sand is literally everywhere right? It's in your pockets, on your table, etc. http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/wa1g0/gorilla_glass_2_is_overhyped_there_are_a_ton_of/
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s3/579703-so-much-scratch-resistant-gorilla-glass-2-a.html
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how big are your sand-filled pockets if you can fit a 10 inch tablet in them?
and you need to clean your table if its got sand all over it.
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how big are your sand-filled pockets if you can fit a 10 inch tablet in them?
and you need to clean your table if its got sand all over it.
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I've helped friends install InvisibleShield on various phones, and despite a pristine install, I really never could stand the feel of one of these instead of the bare glass. When I got my Galaxy Nexus a year ago, I checked the reviews again, looked at friends' phones with screen protectors (including Zagg) and came away with the same impression -- makes sense, since they're probably using the same 3M protective film (used on leading edge of helicopter rotors, car bras, etc.)
Despite the horror stories and photos of screens destroyed with "invisible sand", I decided to chance it with the GNex so I could really enjoy the screen as it was intended to be used. The only protection the phone has ever had on it is the 2-piece (silicone inner with plastic shell) Incipio case that Verizon was selling. The screen has been bare for a year.
The phone is generally with me from 6am till bedtime. I travel frequently for work -- the phone gets jammed in a pants pocket, jacket pocket, placed in a cup holder in my car, I've dropped it 3 times (happily the Incipio was sufficient protection). I've had it on camping trips, and on our last two vacations at the beach the phone came along with me every day.
Point is: the Galaxy Nexus screen is not even true Gorilla Glass, but an unspecified "fortified glass" that Samsung used instead back then. Assumptions are that real Gorilla Glass is more scratch resistant, and Gorilla Glass 2 is an even better product. With all considered, my Galaxy Nexus has no visible scratches -- and I DO check it carefully, as flaws like that tend to bug me. I've taken a chance with the phone, but in the end I'm SO happy that I have been able to fully enjoy the phone as it was intended, rather than have to drag my finger across a slightly rubbery, slightly orange-peely, surface any time I want to use it.
In my own use, a tablet would subject to less potential scratching and wear than my phone. I'm careful with my tech equipment -- but I use it heavily, and I want to enjoy it to the fullest. So far, protectors like Zagg's product do more to compromise my experience than the protection is worth to me. Everyone uses their devices in their own fashion, some are rougher on them than others or more accident prone, and some live in sandier climates... Obviously each has to decide what makes sense for his/her self. For me, considering my usage patterns -- the state of the art of screens and screen protectors is such that I generally won't use one, and I haven't regretted it yet.
Guys! I'm very Sorry to note that my phone have a lot of scratches in the screen... I think it is caused by nails but my last phone (lg 2x) with gorilla glass 2 havent any scratch... Now I bought a screen protector... And you?
And me.
Same here. Gorilla Glass 3 suckzz... I applied screenguard as my screen was prone to scratches.
Me too, it's sad because first weak and i get a scratch, but my nexus 7 2012 have no scrath at all and i bought it 1 year ago.
No scratches here, and I have never used a screen protector
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no protector here and no scratches either
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Guys! I'm very Sorry to note that my phone have a lot of scratches in the screen... I think it is caused by nails but my last phone (lg 2x) with gorilla glass 2 havent any scratch... Now I bought a screen protector... And you?
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I never used screen protector.
I learned it the hard way on my HTC one X (gorilla glass 2). Never wipe your screen with your cloth. It will contain sand grains and that scratches any glass surface.
On my nexus5, I use glasses wipe, and its still in perfect condition.
Hope this helps.
I've had plenty of phones with Gorilla Glass and ALL of them got scratched if used without a screen protector... people need to understand that Gorilla Glass is only scratch-resistant, not scratch-proof. If you don't want scratches, use a screen protector, no matter what.
or take care of ur phone
Gorilla glass is scratch resistant until we see some sapphire glass covers with 9h-10h they will be theoretically scratch proof seeing I tried to scratch the iPhone 5 sapphire lens cover and nothing .
Buy some tempered glass on eBay I Bought one for 5$ its good overall
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Mine has those microscratches, which apparently are in the oleophobic layer. Tough, but I can live with them. If it get's any worse I might apply a (glass) screenprotector, but I really prefer naked.
Yeah it's bad. Either they used really cheap GG3, or just used a cheap oleophobic coating. Good thing I have tmo so I can just get another phone when it gets really bad...Thanks jump!
SO many minerals can scratch gorilla glass. It stops stuff like keys from scratching the glass, but get a piece of sand 0.5mm big in your pocket, and your screen is toast
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Mine has those microscratches, which apparently are in the oleophobic layer. Tough, but I can live with them. If it get's any worse I might apply a (glass) screenprotector, but I really prefer naked.
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I got rid of some of my scratches that are on the anti-fingerprint layer however the deeper one I could not fix
fixed it with this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Proteger-Sm...t=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cases&hash=item2335b86414
I think the glass screen protectors are the way to go. For $15-$25 you just don't have to worry about it and it's a little extra protection if dropped. Plus it feels naked
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SO many minerals can scratch gorilla glass. It stops stuff like keys from scratching the glass, but get a piece of sand 0.5mm big in your pocket, and your screen is toast
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This ^^^
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It sounds stupid, but I always blow on my screen after it's been in my pocket for a while to get any micro particles off of it. Like somebody else said, all it takes is a single grain of sand combined with a wipe of a cloth or a swipe of a finger to wreak havoc. If I see stubborn particles on my screen, will always dab them with my finger to get them off. I will never wipe them.
I have yet to get a scratch on my screen with the above methods.
never had a screen protector, no scratches. my phone is as flawless as when i first took it out of the box in early Nov.
No scratches on my N5, N4, N7, Xoom etc... is it because I don't put it in the same pocket as my keys and change? That's kind of like, common knowledge...
For all the people saying that a tiny piece of sand can scratch the screen, you're completely right, but some of us on here are comparing it to previous phones that we've owned that haven't scratched in the same environment.
I'm not really complaining too much because I stick my phone with everything else in my pocket (keys, cards, anything else really) and it's still in pretty great condition. (I've had it since it came out)
I have always used invisible shield on my devices. One reason was the wet application method their protectors use. I always have issues with dust, no matter what I do, but the application solution seems to rinse the dust out with it when you install the wrap. With a dry install if a single piece of dust lands on the screen on the install you're screwed.
Anyway, does anyone know if any of the Zagg (or other brand) protectors use a wet install?
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Ghost armor does. Not sure why you would want one though.. way too much friction for something with a stylus.
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Ghost armor does. Not sure why you would want one though.. way too much friction for something with a stylus.
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Would you say I'm ok without a screen protector then? I'm not one to throw my phone in my pocket with my keys or anything. I keep it in a pocket by itself. I would like one of the glass protectors but I've seen way too many bad things about them due to the screen being curved and causing a "halo" effect.
The "original" on their website I think. But that would be badddd with the pen.
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The "original" on their website I think. But that would be badddd with the pen.
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I remember the original being pretty sticky feeling on my old iPhone. I just bought an HDX Defense, but it is a dry install as I referenced above. Its pretty clear and almost as smooth as glass, but I couldn't get it on without any dust. I ALMOST did but one big piece hit the screen just as I was laying it down, and I ruined the protector getting the dust off. I'll be sending in for replacement to try again but I just don't see how I could ever get one of these on without a single piece of dust. When I clean off my phone and watch if for about 5 seconds I get 10-15 little dust particle in that amount of time..... Ugh.
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I remember the original being pretty sticky feeling on my old iPhone. I just bought an HDX Defense, but it is a dry install as I referenced above. Its pretty clear and almost as smooth as glass, but I couldn't get it on without any dust. I ALMOST did but one big piece hit the screen just as I was laying it down, and I ruined the protector getting the dust off. I'll be sending in for replacement to try again but I just don't see how I could ever get one of these on without a single piece of dust. When I clean off my phone and watch if for about 5 seconds I get 10-15 little dust particle in that amount of time..... Ugh.
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I do mine right in the bathroom after a shower. The steam helps keep the dust manageable. Also, use the tape hinge method so you can do it really fast after it's clean.
What is this tape hinge method? Also, I ran a ton of hot water in the bathroom to get the steam really going. It helped but I still got one piece of dust in there. =[ Probably took me about 15 seconds to apply, if I could do it in 3-4 seconds I could probably avoid all the dust.
I got the skinomi skin for my screen and its great. fits perfectly and no dust particles. it is not as smooth as glass or the plasticy screen protector, but I can do everything fine. prefer this over halos and dust around the halos.
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What is this tape hinge method? Also, I ran a ton of hot water in the bathroom to get the steam really going. It helped but I still got one piece of dust in there. =[ Probably took me about 15 seconds to apply, if I could do it in 3-4 seconds I could probably avoid all the dust.
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It's popular for sticking decals on cars n such. Once you place the protector where you want it, make a hinge out of a piece of tape. Fold back the protector, peel off the backing, and use the hinge to put the protector back on in the same place it was taped. Here's a video.
I wouldn't mind having one for the glass back. It would add some nice grip.
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tbh if you just don't abuse the phone you should be fine without a protector. After reading an article about it back when I had a Galaxy S3, I peeled my Zagg protector off and didn't even use one on the Note 3. After 2 years of heavy daily use, the Note 3 looked nearly brand new - only a few extremely light small scratches viewable from certain angles with just the right lighting. I will definitely not be using anything on the Note 5 for that reason.
I have a desk job though, and am generally careful with everything i own, however. My step brother on the other hand... he delivers/installs large home appliances. In the last 3 years he utterly destroyed 2 Galaxy S4's and an iPhone 5 because he doesn't take care of his stuff at all (both S4's had smashed screens, camera lenses etc destroyed through a full Otterbox Defender case).
In any case - I too would strongly advise against a Zagg wet protector on a phone with a stylus. It would basically make the stylus unusable.
If i recall correctly, the reason they discontinued the wet application was people were applying it improperly and causing damage to their phones.
Basically they stopped selling them to cover their butts from lawsuits.
I've had my Note 8 for 9 days now and while I was thinking about buying a screen protector when it arrived, I must admit that I'm quite impressed by the quality of the screen. It just feels so hard to scratch, so much so that one would probably struggle trying to scratch it even on purpose. I don't really see myself scratching it by accident anytime soon, although I must admit I'm this kind of guy who never drops the phone and handles it with extreme care.
I'm just curious to read what you guys think, maybe somebody persuades me to buy a screen protector after all, who knows.
The Gorilla Glass 5 is more shatter-resistant than previous versions and that means it is softer also. I had my Note 7 only a few days before it started picking up micro scratches on the front and back. Your mileage may vary. I'm putting on a Whitestone done and a skin on the back of mine.
I bought a screen protector but am debating putting it on. I may try it and see how it goes
Many of us do fine with no protection. Others report getting scratches no matter how hard they try not to.
I've always put a protector on my previous phones but I'm using my Note 8 without a screen protector. Like you, I'm always very careful with my phone and never drop it. The pocket that I put my phone in only contains my phone; I never put loose change or key in there. My Spigen Slim Armor case protects most of the phone and keeps the screen off the table surface if I do put it face down. With all of the issues people have had with curved tempered glass screen protectors, it just seems like more hassle than it's worth. The only one I'd get is the Whitestone Dome but that costs $60 here. Bit pricey.
I always run a protectors. Better safe then sorry.
I take very good care of my stuff. If a scratch did happen you cant take it back. So there would be no way ti fit it without buying a no front glass or new phone.
With a protector you can simply remove it and put on another one.
Fwiw, 5 days and i have a scratch, no clue where it came from. Have never used screen protectors, but will now
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It's def worth it. On my S8 there was a scratch after few days and I am very careful about my phone so really don't know how it happened.
Same here...it is so minor and you cannot even feel it. Babied it too. Also a small one on the back and it had a case day 1. Something tells me it came like that
Going naked for now. Just watch out for sand, fine sand , seems to be the only thing. If it was a flat screen I would have tempered glass on it.
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ANY sharp instrument will scratch if the point is pressed in to the display, period. It is MUCH easier to bang on it with a long blade edge and look like you did nothing than the tip of an x-acto knife. That is what those demos do. Resisting attack across a large area is really what you are seeing. Keys are small like that etc...
Finally, a big part of Gorilla Glass is that it also HIDES or better put doesnt show minor damage as much as other glass. In other words, its there you just don't see it.
I bet a screen for this will be $300-$400. How much is a protector that looks good?
Better safe than sorry. Once it's scratched it would bug the hell out of me. It's a £1000 device.
Throw a screen protector on it. In time, micro-scratches will appear on your screen if you dont!
Note FE, had it on the ironing board (and forgot about it). Folded the ironing board and it very gently slid down it onto the floor face down....very gently....resulted in a 7mm scratch.
Not got one on this yet but it does highlight how pathetically weak GG5 is.
I put one on from iq shield...works great with my ringke wave
Since its a huge pain to find a glass protector that fits and doesn't screw up touch sensitivity I just grabbed the $8 Skinomi wet install protector, works great including with the edge display and S-Pen.
I believe the micro-scratches are not the actual "glass" screen itself. It's the oleophobic coating that we see scratched.
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I believe the micro-scratches are not the actual "glass" screen itself. It's the oleophobic coating that we see scratched.
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But if it still looks like a scratch....
I personally really don't get the mentality of people who put huges cases and screen protectors on their phones. Most people here are obsessive on having 'the latest' and upgrade yearly when new stuff comes out so they can have the nicest, thinnest, prettiest shiny piece of hardware - Then they go wrap it all up in a thick rubber/plastic case and make it look sh*t. Why buy a device with no bezel if you're gonna put a huge thick case bezel around it!
I've had all my smartphones without cases/screen protectors as that's how they're meant to be and to honest I look after my devices. I usually get 2 year contracts on phones and at the end of 2 years, worst case, a few micro scratches on the screen - That's it. Do these guys bubble wrap their cars? It's a phone, it's designed to be used, it'll get the odd small scratch, just enjoy it for what it is IMO.
I have dropped my Pixel XL and the screen protector cracked but the screen was fine. Same on my Nexus 6. Dropped it on it's face from about 5' and the screen protector cracked all over it but the screen remained crack free. I fell that a glass screen protector takes the abuse of a drop. Granted, I've never dropped a phone with a screen protector so not sure if they would have cracked the screen without a protector but to me, It used to be relatively cheap protection. Some of the better protectors are 40+ now so it's not as easy a decision as it used to be for me.