Hi, the adaptor part of my charger came apart today when I unplugged it from the mains. the contacts fell out and I'm having trouble figuring out how to re assemble it properly. I've searched but can't find a picture or wiring diagram, don't suppose anyone here would know where to find one?
Matt
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I had this with mine, my daughter(2yrs) pulled my charger out of the socket and it came apart went pop with smoke coming out of the bit of a charger left in the wall was quite worrying.. just waking up, just opened my eyes and saw what happened she just fell backwards and disappeared down the side of the bed (wasn't shocked just fell backwards over a shoe but my god i nearly had a heart attack) thank god for trip switches.
I dont have a wiring guide but i know how they go back together, with the plug facing away from you the two ends of the wires that look like a long hoop sort of loop back over towards the plug and drop down into the male sections in the plug section of the charger, it's pretty easy to do, once you've tested it to make sure it's working just superglue the edges and it will never come apart again.
Thanks, I'm glad your daughter was ok! that's a great help, do you remember which colour wire went on which side? I'll definitely put some glue on once I've checked it, thanks.
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I can't remember but the wires go up to certain pins on the plug so just wire it back together like a usual plug (and test if it's wrong should just trip your plug socket), it would be easier for you just to google plug wiring to ensure the live goes to the correct pin, i can't send links so i cant post a link to a plug diagram.
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I tried to soft reset my tytn II in the dark, and accidently put the stylus into the usb/charging slot and somehow screwed up my phone. It will not charge, or connect with my computer. Any suggestions?
OMG! I did the same thing, but luckily i didn't do further damage except the copper parts become bent
HTC should have done something about this! i am sure many other users did the same
can u take it back to your supplier for warranty claim?
same problem here...
i could bend back the copper contacts with a WOODEN (!!) toothpick (dont steer around with metal in there....)
Looks like i tried to reset the device in darkness last night and fumbled around in the usb jack.
Damn... really bad position for the reset-button!
Same issue here-- though some chargers now work, some don't. My phone will charge with my OEM charger and usb to computer, but not my 3rd party wall charger or my car charger. Aaargh
Same Problem Here
Check out this thread at AT&T Forum regarding my attempt to get a replacement phone.
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&thread.id=65536
I got mine replaced at the store. I was under 30 days and was lucky.
I am going to order one of these:
http://www.eforcity.com/silicone-mini-5-pin-plug-for-motorola-v3-2-pc-smoke-cmotv3xxpc01.html
it should fit. i also heard that certain verizon phones have rubber usb plugs on them. I may just stop in a verizon store and see if one fits. My tmobile wing had one on it and it worked great to protect the usb port.
Well...I did the samething last night. Tried to soft reset my phone while driving in the dark. Luckily I've had my tilt less than 30 days, called and now all I have to do is go to the AT&T store for a replacement....Also, I'm going to pay 10% restocking fee so I can get an extra battery and charger...W00T!!!!! I actually saved about 50 bux
One way to avoid doing this in the dark is to flip the phone upside down, locate ExtUSB socket with your left index finger, keep your finger over the socket and slide your stylus down your finger tip. Of course the easiest way is to turn a light on.
wizzzard said:
One way to avoid doing this in the dark is to flip the phone upside down, locate ExtUSB socket with your left index finger, keep your finger over the socket and slide your stylus down your finger tip. Of course the easiest way is to turn a light on.
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true, but for those of us with this problem already, it is too late
Luckily, I tried a newer charger, and my car charger, and they both work. As far as connecting to my computer, I have to use my Y cable that was included with my old 8525. I'm still pissed, and I have a TyTn II and not a tilt, so warranty will be a pain in the ass, considering I have to send it to the UK. If it starts to act up, I will have to send it in, and if I get it fixed, I will definitely buy one of those plugs from the above post. Thanks for all the replies, and good luck to everyone with this problem.
Lesson # one don't put things in holes in the dark in bed
Well, good news is ATT is sending me out a replacement phone for free since I am still under warranty (outside the 30 days, but inside the 1-year). Now I just need to re-flash back to OEM status so I don't get busted on the return...time to test out the "Idiot's Guide to Re-Flashing Back to Original ROM" and see if it does me right.
Heijdemann said:
Lesson # one don't put things in holes in the dark in bed
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that's why I have so many kids!?! anyways I had my phone charging in my car and it fell of my seat onto the floor. the nezt day I noticed it wasn't charging (tytn 2 no easy warranty fix) I then noticed that inside the usb thing is a black plastic piece with the small metal connections. the black piece was bent a little on one side so I removed the battery took a pair of tweazers and bent it it straight again than I took some forced air in a can (for a computer keyboard) and blew in there to make sure none of that cheap plastic shredded and got in the way of the metal connections. it looked like after I used the tweazers some of that black plastic chipped off (very small pieces) anyways after that it worked perfectly. hopefully this will help others
well it seems i messed up now and stuck my stencil in there one of the small Metal wires is out of whack now ad some chargers work and some dont did anyone get a plug yet?
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so I live in metro detroit with a tytn 2 not a tilt. after I stuck my stencil in there it seems my car charger don't work. when charging with my audio adapter its flaky losing some power, maintaining, gaining some power. but when I use my wall charger with no adapter it charges!! if you put the kaiser flat on the table I see by 2nd wire (in the hole) is bent down(whereas the others are up) and its sitting in the middle of the whole.(my buddy told me to use a needle and a magnify glass because the 2nd wire was actually bent all the way down but I got it in the middle after messing with it. when that one wire was out of whack my car charger gave me a red constant light (no charge) after the stencil incident. I hope all that helps somebody! anyways so I call HTC first they tell me that's not covered under warranty. Then they tell me I have to send it to houston tx for 3 weeks. Then they tell me it will cost $300 usd to repair!!!! this is insane for a little miniusb piece that got hit once with a stencil. it probaly cost 22cents. what is everyone else doing? I think if I can get that metal piece to stick to the top it'll be fine. I just switched to att and I have 6 days until im locked to a 1yr contract I could buy a tilt for 250 or whatever but id have to sign a 2yr contract.
I stuck the stylus in the USB port as well but luckily I didnt seem to do any damage. I did bend it a bit but with some gentle pressure in the opposite direction it went back into place. I havent had any problems charging or syncing since then, so it seems I got lucky. Just gotta hope I dont do it again, lol.
ya the black piece as a whole seems to be able to bend a little but if u mess the little little metal connections in there you're gonna have problems
Hi, this is my first post and I hope to help someone. I had the same problem with my phone, it charged with the home charger and in the cradle but the car charger won't work. using a close light and a magnifier I could notice that with the phone with the screen upside looking at the usb connector that the pin al the way to the right was flat and a tip was showing as opposite to the others. I returned it to the former position and voila!! it works. I hope to help someone.
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***If this does not belong here I appologize, and feel free to move this if necessary. I just figured the development community is most likely to take this "upgrade" on***
After seeing that someone used Palm's wireless charger on their non-palm phone; I decided to put one on my Droid Incredible.
***This was done to a completely stock Dinc. I did not use any special back, and the stock back gets to stay on (unlike in the other video that I saw)
Wireless Charging the Droid Incredible
**Disclaimer: This will void your warranty, and if you solder something wrong will probably break your phone. With that said I can in no way be held accountable for anything that occurs while performing this “upgrade” to your phone.
>>>>If anyone knows where I can buy that little void sticker that you will see in a picture below, please let me know! If we can get that sticker then our warranty is not voided by doing this.
Supplies:
1.Palm touchstone charger http://www.shopping.hp.com/product/handheld/categories/palm/4/accessories/FB300AA%23AC3
2.Palm touchstone phone back http://www.shopping.hp.com/store/product/product_detail/FB306AA%23AC3?
3.Micro USB cable
4.Soldering Iron (the finer the tip on this the better)
5.Torx T6 screw driver
6.Safe pry tool (or a small flat head screwdriver)
7.Very tiny insulated wires (I just pulled mine out of a USB cable that I cut up)
8.Electrical Tape
9.[Optional] Multimeter to test that you actually made a good connection
How To (Images are of a higher quality (12mp) so I had to stick them in zip files to get them on here):
1.The palm touchstone phone back has a sticker inside of it that encases the wireless charging receiver, so you need to peel this off. Once it is peeled off it will look like this (without the wires soldered onto it):
(Images can be seen in: Palm Receiver.7z)
2.Remove the battery cover and the battery then unscrew the back from your phone (please view a tare down video for details, there are plenty of them on you tube that I used for a reference.)
1.All you need is a torx t6 screwdriver and a safe pry tool, I used a small flat head screwdriver and it worked just fine. Unscrew the 4 screws around the sides and then carefully pry off every place that the battery cover clips on, as they also hold on the red back.
(Images can be seen in: Dinc Inside.7z)
3.Solder on some wires to the USB connector as shown in the below image without soldering onto the pins next to them. This is difficult and takes some time and patience, since these connectors are very small and close (note the polarity in the image, notated in red).
A.Also it is necessary to place a piece of electrical tape over the components right next to the connector (Green box in the image) as they will short out the power and make it impossible to charge your phone if you do not (I found that out the hard way and went back and fixed it).
B.One final note here is that I had to melt down the red phone backing inside to allow the cables to get past the case. See the green rectangle in the image above for where I had to do that. I just used my soldering iron and melted it down, it makes a pretty nice indention for the wires to fit through.
(Images can be seen in: Dinc USB.7z)
4.Now push out the rubber plug in the red phone backing next to the USB cover (this is encircled in Green in the image from step 2).
A.Run the cables that you just solder on through that so that they are sticking through to the battery compartment on your phone.
B.You can also stick on the palm receiver to the inside of your phone cover (note the direction and placement, as this is necessary to close your cover).
3.Note that I placed electrical tape over the wires. This was necessary to keep them from breaking off of the USB connector since the solder points are so small.
(Images can be seen in: Almost Done.7z)
5.Solder on the wires to the palm charger receiver and you are done. Now you just need to carefully place the wires towards the middle of the phone so that you can close the back of your phone entirely (this is another reason why the wires need to be small).
A.Note the polarity of the connection.
B.Also I put a piece of electrical tape over the connections on the palm charger receiver to protect them (not shown in the image).
(Images can be seen in: Wireless Charger.7z)
Here is a video of the end product and how it works:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOMVJ-vmWpg
Also I just verified that my compass is working without any problems.
This could be truly amazing. I can't wait to see more.
ThugEsquire said:
This could be truly amazing. I can't wait to see more.
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Its been done with the Evo, but don't know anyone who did it with the Inc.
http://www.goodandevo.net/2010/06/h...rk-with-palm-touchstone-wireless-charger.html
Sounds really nice. Not gonna try it with mine because I'm too scared
Though shouldn't this be in accessories or general?
What are you doing to align the coils? My biggest concern that's kept me from this is the magnets also would mess up the compass sensors readings which I for one actually value.
Wow, you managed to bring me out of my months of silence in posting...
I feel honored that I can get you out of your months of silence
The coil alignment is handled by the magnets inside of the palm touchstone charger itself (the base unit that plugs into the wall). The metal objects that you can see in the "Palm Receiver.7z" file are actually not magnets, but small circular pieces of metal that get pulled towards the charger base when you get them close to each other. So when you have the phone off of the charger, there are no magnets to mess with anything
Also you will notice that there is a piece of metal behind the coil, and that seems to block the inductive signal all together (because I tried to put it on backwards to no avail). Therefore your phone is mostly protected from the inductive transmission.
The only thing that I noticed, is that the touchscreen on the phone is a little weird when it is on the charger, but I see the same side effects when plugging the phone into a "non-htc" charger (before performing this "upgrade"). **I also saw this on my Moto Droid when connecting it to a 1 amp charger, and I have seen this with multiple other touchscreen devices so I think it just has something to do with the frequency of the charger.
Also in case of any concerns: MY PHONE HAS IN NO WAY BEEN DAMAGED BY THIS "UPGRADE"
pianoplayer said:
Sounds really nice. Not gonna try it with mine because I'm too scared
Though shouldn't this be in accessories or general?
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Yah, it probably should be, and may get moved (which is perfectly fine by me). I put it in here because I am a developer and much more likely to do this, so I figured the development community would be more interested.
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This could be truly amazing. I can't wait to see more.
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You mentioned that you can't wait to see more....?
What more would you like to see? I am happy to add to the posts, but just not sure what further details you would like to see.
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Also in case of any concerns: MY PHONE HAS IN NO WAY BEEN DAMAGED BY THIS "UPGRADE"
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I trust your method, I just don't trust my shaky hands
BTW there is a multi quote button so you dont have to do a separate post for each reply
I have a rubber case on my Dinc... would I need to remove it for charging?
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I think you will be ok if it is one of those thin (about 1mm thick) rubber cases. Anything thicker than that and you would probably have to install the wireless receiver on the case itself and remove your battery cover all together.
I tested a thin rubber case that I have (no more than 1mm thick I think) that fits a Droid Eris and it charges as long as its flush to the back of my phone.
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Wow, this is amazing, very well done. I think this is the first hard mod I've heard of for an Android. I guess gold cards were a sorta gray area.
I've had my Incredible modded to work with a Touchstone since around June of last year. It works great, but I must caution anyone thinking of doing this to be VERY careful. Experience with soldering and a steady hand is a must. One could fairly easily mess up their phone attempting to do this.
Could you do this with a powermat if you wanted to? I have a few laying around I could use.
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Paul600k5 said:
Could you do this with a powermat if you wanted to? I have a few laying around I could use.
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Sure, if you wanna take apart one of those generic receivers and try to fit it inside your phone!
nevetsvsx said:
You mentioned that you can't wait to see more....?
What more would you like to see? I am happy to add to the posts, but just not sure what further details you would like to see.
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What I originally meant was pictures. But now that you've added them and I've seen the glory, this mod is really quite impressive and I'm thrilled you shared it with us. But now that I think about it, could this also do USB wirelessly? That would be pretty amazing.
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What I originally meant was pictures. But now that you've added them and I've seen the glory, this mod is really quite impressive and I'm thrilled you shared it with us. But now that I think about it, could this also do USB wirelessly? That would be pretty amazing.
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No, the transmission of data wirelessly is achieved through modulated EM waves. This is simple inductance: a changing electric field creates a magnetic field, a changing magnetic field generates an electric field, so a current carrying loop placed near another loop of wire will induce current in the other loop. The receiver in the phone is engineered to "create" the "proper" amount current to charge your battery when combined with the base. In theory yes, but not with this equipment.
How does the phone treat a USB cable being plugged in - will it charge ok, and have your data transfer rates been adversely effected? I wouldn't think so, since you're only touching the power...
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How does the phone treat a USB cable being plugged in - will it charge ok, and have your data transfer rates been adversely effected? I wouldn't think so, since you're only touching the power...
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I have used the USB charger and data transfer cables without any problems at all. Also I have copied some files off of my phone to my PC since the "upgrade" and did not notice any extended times or anything that would remotely make me think something was wrong.
I did not run a speed test before and after to see if anything slowed down, but as you said we are only touching the power pins, so I highly doubt anything has changed.
Hi,
My made-in-china docking station has just arrived, unfortunately its already been broken (quality material of a matchbox :\),
I have plugged in my micro usb into the socket (female micro usb on the dock) and somehow after few tests the female receiver of the dock fell out.. (I guess it wasn't glued strong enough because I haven't use any extra power to push it in)
Any way.. I have opened it up to see whats going on and found this:
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/9554/a84p.jpg
The small piece on the left is the female micro usb plugger that was attached to the green board but fell off..
This is a sort of explanation:
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/2971/4wbl.jpg
And thats the part it self:
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8735/ew44.jpg
Unfortunately I can't glue it back and definately not weld it on since its too tiny and I don't have proper equipment for that..
But I do want to try to fix it because god damn its 1 day old ! totally brand new!
So I was thinking maybe I should simply tear a cable and plug the + - to the red and black wires at the end of that board..
And so, here comes the question for you expert fellers.
First this is the board:
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/8915/xo1u.jpg
I have a basic knowledge in electricity but its from engineering study and not from real world, so I don't really know how to read this thing..
Perhaps a better intuition than mines will help too..
Is this board necessary? What does it do? and can't it live with out it?
Why they didn't simply plug the + and - straight to the + - pins of the docking points?
Because thats what I am willing to do but I guess that "Ask the experts before you ruin it" is a helpful tip my mom taught me..
Thanks!
Jordan.
its actually soldered, not welded. its not very hard to solder, even tiny parts.
theres still solder on it. you can reflow it with a heat gun... assuming from your post that you have a welder so im guessing you have a heat gun.
just put the part on where its supposed to go, align it, then heat it.
dont get too close and slowly let the heat build, it'll flow at once. try to avoid applying heat to other parts to prevent them from shifting around.
if you are worried theres not enough solder, buy some solder paste and put a little bit on it.
you can check youtube/google for tutorials on reflowing with a heatgun.
if you dont have a heat gun theres other ways but be mindful of the temperatures of the rest of the components, you dont want anything else falling off.
btw, only pins 2 and 3 are necessary, thats power and ground.
Thanks for your reply but I've actually already fixed it,
I didn't soldered (I used Google Translate for that word ) it all,
I simply plugged out the whole board and attatched the two wires to the +- of a usb cable...
It works great.
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i think this is not a good idea
you can destroy the phone with this "FIX", if the phone is fully loaded the dock would load further.
In a extremsituation it can flame up
Search for the heatgun and fix it correctly, please
0p3r4t0r said:
i think this is not a good idea
you can destroy the phone with this "FIX", if the phone is fully loaded the dock would load further.
In a extremsituation it can flame up
Search for the heatgun and fix it correctly, please
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Yeah I'm sorry but thats a full of crap..
first you absolutely cant flame up your phone by over charging it.. (where the hell have you ever heard about it?!)
secondly, the system for disconnect when the battery is full is inside the phone and not on the charger..
There are few circuit things for defending on the charger but not that..
And last, I already done it months ago and it wasn't bad at all.. sometimes it didn't charge to 100% or dropped down immediately.. but overall was fine..
I use now a new charger (also chinese crap), this one has the circuit board, I don't really feel anything different..
It charges good now but nothing extra noticeable...
Hey man, sorry i won't flame.
I mean the dock can lightup if you don't connect it correctly (short circuit)
But it's not my so you can do what you want
Sorry for missunderstanding
0p3r4t0r said:
Hey man, sorry i won't flame.
I mean the dock can lightup if you don't connect it correctly (short circuit)
But it's not my so you can do what you want
Sorry for missunderstanding
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To be honest man there isn't enough current running through the USB to do anything nasty to the dock even if it did short circuit. It certainly wouldn't burn and you couldn't shock yourself, worst case scenario, the dock would just stop working.
So I plugged in my cradle attached to the watch, waiting for the charging sound and flashing battery icon... nothing.
I reckoned the cable might be loose, nope. Maybe the cable is faulty (it's a bit old but longer than the supplied one) Changed it... still no go.
Maybe the charger has developed a fault, swapped it for another Samsung one I have... still no charging.
Must be the watch or cradle, undid the cradle slightly, snapped it back together.. still not charging.
So I took it apart again and only then did I notice the cradle was the wrong way round!!!
How it's possible to do this is a bit of a design flaw. But at least it was down to me and not the hardware. I just thought I would share this dumb story with you in case it happens to you one day
Hi, I did the same thing just on the first day of use - good thing is that by reversing the watch there is no way to spoil anything, so no worries.
There is probably no point in making special "key" just remember which way to put the watch into the cradle.
I wonder how to design the power connector on the watch to allow to use just standard micro-usb cable - I think that it is not so easy, especially if we are talking about IP55 and for future GEAR II - hopefully IP68 - connector must be well protected against water ingress as it will keep the water inside when it gets there...
all rubber plugs and gaskets and so on are useless if we talk about true water tightness.
Some people have mentionned that attaching the magnetic charger the wrong way could have an ill effect on the phone. Is there any validity to this or is it just people spreading unbased rumors?
The pin holes are different shapes so that you can only properly connect it right side up, but some 3rd party chargers (including mine - the led charger) have the metal pins sticking out slightly beyond the safety holes, so the pins could make contact if I attach it wrong.
From a physics point of view, how is it any different from plugging in a plug into a wall outlet where the orientation of the plug is irrelevent?
it'll make your phone go BOOM, don't do it.
adamk7 said:
From a physics point of view, how is it any different from plugging in a plug into a wall outlet where the orientation of the plug is irrelevent?
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AC vs DC
Iruwen said:
AC vs DC
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Riight, thanks
I'm a little worried about this though.. I could see myself accidently plugging it in wrong. I have the black version of the phone which looks very similar front and back, I feel like it's just a matter of time before I mess up :\ Maybe I'll try to trim the charer pins a bit with a diamond dremel bit..
It just shuts my phone down when I put it the wrong way. Works fine after turning back on.
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I have the Magnector X charger and the pins are not sticking out. They are slightly below the plastic casing.
I put my Z1 the wrong way in my Brodit car holder (very good phone mount/holder by the way) and it just rebooted. It was no problem then
I also think there is no difference. I don't see any real facts about downside.
Haven't done anything bad with my phone it still charge as good, don't think it would matter at all
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It messes up the flux capacitor.
Good to see you can quit elementary school and still afford a decent smartphone.
Iruwen said:
Good to see you can quit elementary school and still afford a decent smartphone.
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Do you momentarily feel better about yourself after being a condescending ****?
pricey2009 said:
It just shuts my phone down when I put it the wrong way. Works fine after turning back on.
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Good to hear! Still don't feel like purposely testing it though.
Yes I do.