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Hey guys the G1 data plan is getting too expensive for me and I'm planning to cancel soon. After I call in and cancel, how can I get my G1 to stop trying to access the internet unless its Wifi? Or once I cancel I won't have to worry about this?
I also heard a rumor about changing the APN settings so you can still have and use the internet? Is this true?
no real way to stop the phone from accessing the web since even in the background it sends packets of information. that's just how the phone works that's why you need the data plan for this phone.
i want to cancel the plan cause my sis is paying for mine and i dont want her paying 300$+ a year on me. but i dont want to be charged after i cancel the plan cause my g1 is still accessing the internet. Anyways to prevent it from accessing the internet?
tinyaznboi said:
i want to cancel the plan cause my sis is paying for mine and i dont want her paying 300$+ a year on me. but i dont want to be charged after i cancel the plan cause my g1 is still accessing the internet. Anyways to prevent it from accessing the internet?
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i just said no there is no way to to shut off the internet due to the fact that the phone requires you to have a google account to run it even if you flash a adp build and skip the logon proceedure the phone still access the web in the background without you knowledge you will still get billed for data charges at t mobs data rate which i think is 25 to 50 cents per meg used.
disable auto sync
if you disable auto sync you wont be accessing the internet much (assuming you don't have a ton of news widgets or something) then sync when you're connected to wifi (toggle settings works well for this)
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if you disable auto sync you wont be accessing the internet much (assuming you don't have a ton of news widgets or something) then sync when you're connected to wifi (toggle settings works well for this)
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the problem is even with auto sync off the phone still polls the internet in the background for updates and other things you could remove every internet reliant app off your phone and it still polls the internet it just the way android is designed he want to stop all internet traffic which is impossible without hacking the rom beyond what we do or pulling out the sim. even google maps requires to poll the internet in the background without him even turning it on. it's just impossible to stop it completely.
Install APNdroid.
Easiest, simplest, most reliable way: Go into settings>wireless controls>Mobile Networks>Access Point names, then click on each one and hit menu then delete. You will also need to finangle with tmobile through their customer service number in order to get them to cancel 3g for your G1 (they have some kind of a policy that's supposed to mean that you have to have an unlimited data plan with the G1, but if you're patient with them they'll let you cancel and just have voice.)
Even easier way. Download Toggle Data from market. That's what I've been using since I cancelled my plan. No more data in the background, so my battery life is longer. Sometimes my phone goes like 2-3 days without charge. (Of course without using wifi)
apns not only control how the phone connects to the internet it also handles how it connects to make calls which is also how it connect to edge/3g. so see the conundrum we have here removing all apns also kills making calls.
Before I bricked my G1, (I don't have a data plan) I just went to the T-Mobile store and told the guy what I could do to stop the internet. He just changed some kind of port number and stopped the internet so I don't get charged.
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apns not only control how the phone connects to the internet it also handles how it connects to make calls which is also how it connect to edge/3g. so see the conundrum we have here removing all apns also kills making calls.
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I use apndroid all the time(to save battery) and I can still send/receive calls with it.
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I use apndroid all the time(to save battery) and I can still send/receive calls with it.
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i wasn't talking about apndroid
i was talking about the guy who told him to delete all his apns
if i use apndroid will i still be able to use wifi? also im using a JACHero's rom and i noticed this in the settings...
Data Sync > Google > Background Date Usage [X]
APN Droid only kills the data.
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apns not only control how the phone connects to the internet it also handles how it connects to make calls which is also how it connect to edge/3g. so see the conundrum we have here removing all apns also kills making calls.
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No, the APN controls cellular data (internet and MMS) only. Voice and SMS are "built in" so to speak - as long as the SIM matches yoru carrier's records, they will work.
Deleting the APNs (or using APNdroid) will block cellular data, leaving voice, SMS and WiFi internet unaffected.
First off, i would like to say hello XDA, this is my first post on the forum, so bare with me
Okay, here is my problem. I bought a unlocked G1 and i am using it on AT&T, i rooted it and installed CM on it. I DO have unlimited messaging- (texting AND mms, i spoke to a rep. and he told me this) Okay back to point- after i applied the APN settings, i noticed that the "E with arrows up and down" were lit so i knew data was being transferred. right away i deleted the APN so i wont get charged. But what im looking for is a code or app that will DISABLE data, but keep the APN for MMS. I WILL be using the market and other apps ONLY WITH WIFI, NOT DATA!!! So please help me out with this. i have tried APNdroid- and it didnt work (unless i set something wrong, if someone wants to help me with that)and i tried WisyncPlus (again, i dont think i set it right ). So short and simple- I want a app or code that will ONLY USE THE APN FOR MMS- and ONLY USE WIFI for the browser,market,apps,etc...
Not 100% sure, but I've read somewhere that The G1 will use background data intermittently, even after you turn it off. I used it for a week without a data plan, monitored my account at T-Mobile, and they registered my data use, but it was less than 1 mb a day so they weren't charging me.
Just off the top of my head, I remember the threads saying to not put username, password and server blank under apn settings.
Or downloading anycut, or bettercut, to make a shortcut to "testing" and running that will allow you to turn off data. All this was over at androidforums.com
Bump.... )=. I got APNdroid to work as i wanted it to! (only turn on data for mms, then turn off when the MMS was sent, or recieved) but while searching for "g1 battery tips" i installed "Ultimate juice" then un installed it, and then the dreaded E with arrows popped up and was lit. I checked APNdroid and no settings were modified (Disable all APNs, and enable MMS) I tried reinstalling APNdroid. but no luck )= UGH!!!! this is really pissing me off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alright, I really need some help from the big boys here.
I have had my N1 since release. I have T-Mobile and no data plan. Everything I do is over wifi.
On Friday, I saw the 3g icon on my phone for the first time. It appeared out of nowhere and just flips between 3G and E since T-Mobile just blocks data for non-plan users. This was killing the battery life of the phone.
I called Google and they ran me through *#*#4636#*#* to disable the data connection. This fixed the problem for a while; However after a while the phone will give a message that there is no service provider and will reconnect to T-Mobile (it has never done this before outside of phone boots). When it is back up the 3G/E cycling starts again. Even worse the data connection still lists as disabled and will not re-enable. I have to pop the battery out while it is running to get back in to disable it.
Google thinks its an app but I have removed everything but Touchdown and K9 which I don't think are the problem. I have used Android OS Monitor and I do see connections to 64.15.75.218 and 209.44.107.13 which are hot beds for malware and when I uninstall any app these connections vanish temporarily. But they come back after a few hours.
Anyone seen this before or know a way to track IP connections to a particular app?
I have no solution for tracing 'malicious' software but it is possible to just disable all mobile data usage.
Settings/Wireless and network settings/ Mobile networks > "Data enabled"
If you unselect this there should be no more data transfer while on the mobile network.
I do not have that option. Google Rep said it was only in froyo.
Problem is I did the same thing for 2.1 but it keeps coming back on. Even with wifi the phone connects to these ips so who knows what it is doing.
3G isn't used only for data, you can do voice on 3G.
Could be T-Mobile expanding 3g into your are where you didn't have coverage before.
Call T-Mobile and make sure you're not actually using data.
As for tracking applications, you can use System Panel Pro of the market to monitor how much data applications are using.
I know I am not using data. The T-Mobile account page is pretty detailed and I am unable to do anything online when wifi is off. 3G has also been available for a while here as I know others that use it.
I will check out system panel.
Thanks.
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I do not have that option. Google Rep said it was only in froyo.
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It is indeed only on Froyo, however, Froyo is out now, so install it and you'll instantly benefit.
A few more things:
Were you receiving or sending MMS (picture/video messages) when the 3G icon popped up? This is normal and doesn't usually come out of your data balance.
If you'd like to be triple-sure you're not using data, go into the APN settings. Edit the APN name - e.g. change tmobile.com to nomobile.com. Now it *really* shouldn't be able to access data.
Smarphones would be well to do to have a Zonealarm/little snitch type app for this purpose.
Id imagine ad based apps wouldnt be too happy about it. At the least an app that reports IPs times , and IN/OUT info.
I never use SMS or mms and have not gotten any during this time.
My concern is not related to getting charges but with unwanted use of my phone or data. When the data connection auto enables it will go through my battery in a matter or hours and who knows what the phone may be doing.
I know I can turn this off and make sure data is not used - in fact I have already done this. However when smoke enters room you don't just put a towel under the door and forget about it. I want to find the source of this and stop it because the behavior is not normal.
I agree something like zone alarm would be good. You should be able prevent or track an app activities for situations like this. If I knew what was connecting to these IPs and enabling the data connection I could stop it and report the app or submit a bug request. Right now I am just all alone.
I did try system panel which seems like a nice app but it does not give me good information on network usage by app. OSMonitor is better at connection monitoring but doesn't list by app. Why has no one thought to monitor network threads by app?
Try alogcat maybe? Any time you notice the icon suddenly appearing, save a copy of the logcat and comb through it.
alogcat may work. Figured out OSMonitor had something similar and filtered by app.
Now I just gotta wait I guess. Still not enough info to relate to IP though.
You should know that the data connection setting isn't an enforcement for the entire phone. It only acts as a notice to applications on whether or not to use data in the background.
Developers are supposed to respect those settings, but they are not enforced.
There is a free program called Network Statistics which is no longer in the market. I will backup the apk for you and upload it so you can use it. It shows the amount of data used by each app.
I too had a data hungry app issue and this helped me solve it immediately.
I'm just at work ATM, so I'll do it this evening. (Almost midday now here in Australia )
Cheers,
Ross
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I am aware of this which is why I want to track this problem down.
@Ross
That sounds great. I appreciate the help. Not sure if tracking data usage is enough since I don't think the app is sending a lot of data. But I am willing to try anything.
I should be getting froyo soon so maybe that will help as well.
This is what I do when I want to ensure I don't use Data. Go I. To wireless connections. Mobile Networks, and then access points. Create a new one. I usually call it No Data. The for the apn, I just make something dumb, like no.data.com, and then save. After I'll select that as my apn.
The issue is not about the use of the data connection. I have done this and can guarantee the phone cannot use any cell data network. The problem is an app is trying to use it anyway even when it is disabled. Even if you ignore that as a concerning activity the constant 3G searching reduces the battery life to a mere hours.
I appreciate the help, but my issue is not with how to disable the data connection. Its about identifying malware on my device, and tracking an app calls to a specific IP.
Again,k 3g doesn't mean data. 3g is also used for voice.
If you only want to use "2g" switch your phone over to gsm only through 4636 or through the menu where it says "use 2g only".
You will never see the 3g icon again.
If you wan't to be 100% sure no app is calling an IP, then do a factory reset. Install apps one by one, monitor them through the various options given in this thread already.
You will not be able to prevent an application from "calling home" unless you modify the app itself. Apps use the data connection provided to them by the OS however they see fit.
Every app you install has a permissions prompt that will tell you it want's internet access.
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Again,k 3g doesn't mean data. 3g is also used for voice.
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The Android "3G", "H", "E" or "G" icon denotes data. It may also appear temporarily when making the connection necessary to transmit MMS. It does not appear when the phone is using voice over 3G without a data connection.
Actually, this may be a T-Mobile issue - they just enabled the ability to do "pay as you go" data on ALL plans without a data plan, so they may be the ones turning on the ability to do data. You'd still need to authorize it in your browser, and I think it costs about $1/1MB so it is totally not worth it.
May be worth looking into because it wouldn't surprise me if their new "service" is screwing things up.
I am aware of 3G voice but the 3G status icon is related to data flow. I have had the phone since launch and posted this because this behavior is not normal. Even Google was perplexed by what it is doing. And as I said it is not constrained by the 4636 settings.
And I disagree that an app can use the network connection as they see fit. Rights are given to perform its intended purpose; anything else is malicious.
When I had my Aria, I could turn off the data connection but I cannot find the setting on the captivate.
Any ideas?
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I would also love to know how to turn off the 3G data so I can be 100% positive that I'm not eating all of my monthly allotment when I think I'm on wifi
I use "APN on-off Widget" from the market. It's a simple 1x1 widget that allows you to enable and disable APN (data) connectivity with a single tap. It's color coded green/red for data on/off.
There are a few apps that can do this for you. Here is one of them: http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.DataOnOff
Neither seem to work. :/
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Have you tried APNdroid or SMODA Widget?
Gonna try now
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Download "network" app from the market place. Start the app, press menu, and press disable data. Works great for me. Would prefer an edge only option.
when by a wifi connection, can you just connect to the wifi connection to disable data?
When I first got my phone, came home, and connect to my wifi, it was showing the 3g icon next to the wifi icon for like a day and a half. Then for some reason, I had to power the phone completely off and back on again. So, now it just shows the wifi icon when I'm at home, and switches properly to 3g when I go out.
Been looking around for awhile (almost last two years!)
My favorite app/widget for controlling all sorts of things on the device (including data) is:
Extended Controls
Frigging AWESOME - not related to them or anything - just a fan of the app.
I use it and have TWO of their widgets full of controls on one screen!
This is my first post ever to a forum. So, hopefully this comes out ok.
Just picked up my Captivate yesterday and was trying to figure this out also. Found a post by someone, can't remember from where, to go Settings, Wireless and network, Mobile networks, Access Point Names and then add a bogus APN. I named mine OFF. Once you have a bogus APN then select it instead of the ATT WAP. Well, tried this and it didn't work, still had icon at top for mobile data and was transferring data. That is until I got to messing around trying out some the settings and I happen to activate Flight mode, still had bogus APN selected. Then once I turned Flight mode back off the icon was gone and no more data transfer from mobile network. Then when I wanted to turn mobile data back on just went back and selected ATT WAP and the icon popped back in and connected to mobile network.
Extended Controls offers an APN toggle that works very well, and it's not a bad looking widget either.
Undocumented Debug/Diagnostic Menus In Your Android Phone - I found this at: TechSupportAlert
From your Android phone, dial *#*#4636#*#* and then wait a couple of seconds. The testing menu will appear. To exit back to your normal phone, just press your back/exit button. If you're going to explore the various options on the testing menu, take care.
As for the method to turn off data, select the first option on the testing menu (phone information), then press your menu key. You'll see a selection of buttons, one of which says "disable data connection". Press it, and you're all done. To re-enable your data connection, go to the same menu, where you'll find that the name of the button is now "enable data connection".
I tried it on my GT-P1000 and it worked perfectly.
Just in case it helps?
If you are running stock FroYo there is a data connection in the power menu. Hold the power button, and press Data Network. It wasn't there in Eclair, but they added it in FroYo. If I remember right it will even remain disabled after a reboot. I can't test as my phones are no longer stock, but my wife once thought she broke her captivate because she accidentally toggled that.
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From the home screen hit the menu button.
Settings>Wireless and Networks>Mobile Data>Use Packet Data.
Uncheck Use Packet Data
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Airplane mode and wifi?
Am I missing something in my quick review of this thread?
I am going to Europe and dont want any service at all except for wifi.
Cant I just enable airplane mode and then turn on the wifi? Or will those sneaky bastards at ATT find a way to still charge me for something?
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Am I missing something in my quick review of this thread?
I am going to Europe and dont want any service at all except for wifi.
Cant I just enable airplane mode and then turn on the wifi? Or will those sneaky bastards at ATT find a way to still charge me for something?
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Just leave your sim card out of the phone then there is no possible way to "sneak charges"...
wifi works with no sim. And you will get kick ass battery life without it.
I am in Venice now after a week in Paris and leaving the phone in airplane mode seems to be doing the trick. But let me just say, hotel wifi in Europe sucks! Its nothing like the states. You get a user name and a password and have to log in every single time. And only one user at a time. I need a wifi repeater or something to use my laptop, iPod, and phone as I want to.
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For some reason, and I'm not sure when this started but I can no longer send or receive MMS messages when connected to my wifi. Right now I know this happens at home but haven't checked other wifis. I've been googling for answers but haven't found anything real to help remedy the situation. Has anyone else had this issue? if so, how to fix?
Thanks, in advance
MTA: I've noticed that connecting to wifi my mobile data is being disconnected/turned off. Don't remember setting this in anything but it's happening nonetheless. bothersome.
Mobile data is needed for MMS to come through. I used to use Tasker to disable mobile data when I was on wifi to save battery, but stopped doing it because it blocks MMS. I tried using Tasker to enable mobile data for 5 minutes upon receiving an MMS, but it was a little hit or miss.
If you are using a battery saver app, it could be turning your mobile network off to save battery for you, so check there first. I don't think there are any stock settings for it that would do that, but who knows.
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Mobile data is needed for MMS to come through. I used to use Tasker to disable mobile data when I was on wifi to save battery, but stopped doing it because it blocks MMS. I tried using Tasker to enable mobile data for 5 minutes upon receiving an MMS, but it was a little hit or miss.
If you are using a battery saver app, it could be turning your mobile network off to save battery for you, so check there first. I don't think there are any stock settings for it that would do that, but who knows.
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I'm not using any battery saver/task killers/ yadda yadda.. I don't even know when it changed. It's completely doing it on it's own. As soon as i connect to a (W)LAN the 4G dims out and I lose mobile data.
I'm running rooted 4.4.2 and have never taken an OTA update. Nothing in xposed anywhere to change this either that I can figure. I'm completely stumped.
If the 4GLTE icon turns from a "bright" gray to a darker gray, this should be OK. If it disappears completely, that would be OFF or not connected at all. I have Verizon, and that's how mine acts. I have an Xposed module to use AOSP icons in the status bar, so mine just says "LTE" right "above" the Wifi icon instead of next to it, to take up less space.
I do have issues from time to time where MMS will just not download properly. Not sure what causes it, but it goes back to normal after a while.
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Ok I've figured this out as I have finally been able to reproduce the problem.
I'm running privoxy on my home lan and if I set the proxy manually on the phone it will choke privoxy up, literally. I can sit here and watch the CPU usuage just climb on the router. If I disable the privoxy proxy on the phone the message goes right through.