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Do you find the Vibrator servo weak or strong enough?
Personally i find it a bit weak compared to my older phones
When it vibrates unless i'm next to it, i wont even hear/feel it
if i leave it at the coffee table, and i'm working at the room next door, no doors, i wont even know a phone or message came through.
Speakers are super good, i can be on the far end of the house/office, and still hear it from the other end
I am fairly sure you are not intended to hear the motor, its supposed to be for silent alerts in your pocket. I realise most are audible but pretty sure it is not the actual idea.
Feel it though, yeah I find it pretty strong when it is actually receiving a call on my belt holder, not so much for haptic feedback. I think it feels quite "tight" compared to previous phones too, it really seems to be sharp start and finish motor wise and I can only really refer to the feeling as "bouncy" which I quite like.
There are of course stronger ones out there, but this is a pretty slim phone.
The loudspeaker though I am seriously disappointed by, it is ok when open but I can nearly silence it with a single finger over the opening on the case, so when it is in a pocket outside I find it to be pretty useless. It is also easily muffled if left ontop of a slightly soft surface.
The Motorola Milestone was super loud by comparison, and the audio quality of the Milestone was simply superior in all cases - I miss that aspect. Apparently a lot of Droid owners had audio problems but I think that was less of a case with the Euro firmware.
no, i was not refering to loud "motor" rather when the vibration shakes the phone and it rattles on the desk, it doesn't rattle loud enough.
compared to Treos or BlackBerries i've used in the past
I realised but I think did not reply very well. I just can't think of a better term than tight for the motor though, it seems to be quick and sharp which I feel against my skin quite easily but is perhaps too quick to allow for much up/down motion against a hard surface. It sort of feels more like a buzzing of an electric shaver to me.
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It sort of feels more like a buzzing of an electric shaver to me.
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yeah, exactly that's how it feels and sounds when placed on a table
it doesn't produce enough vibration to make a noticeable sound
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I just bought a N1 recently, and am loving it. However, this one issue bugs me to no end.
During calls with my girlfriend, she always complains of my voice being too soft, as if I'm talking from far away. The only solution I've found so far is to cup my hands in front of the mic, or to just speak louder. This is annoying, as I never had this problem with my ancient Sony Ericsson K750i.
I've been looking for an app/way to increase my microphone gain, to no avail.
So..
1. Does anyone else have this problem?
2. Is there a way to increase microphone gain on the nexus one?
Some help would be much appreciated here. Thank you you. =)
I bet this may be a hardware problem, maybe one of your two Mics is not working. I don't have any issues, and I've even left myself messages to hear the phone's sound quality, and its very clear.
The only time I experienced what you describe is when I use the wired head set and the wire is not plugged in all the way which makes the Mic fail. Then it sounds exactly like you said, which makes me very much think its a broken Mic hardware.
Thanks for the reply roger.
Thing is, it's not that i'm VERY soft, just a little too soft for good hearing. If i make it a point to put the mic as close to my mouth as i can it's alright.
The wishful side of me is adamant that it's a normal problem, and just a little extra mic gain would solve it prettily. Now all I need to do is find that app.
RMA-ing the thing isn't the nicest of solutions, because i live in Malaysia, and HTC Malaysia doesn't support the phone. I'll have to get it sent to HTC Singapore, and do the necessary there. No joy.
If you guys have a lead on what to look for I'll be most thankful. =)
There is no thing you're looking for, and it's not a "normal problem", this problem shouldn't exist. The problem is most likely in dual-mic noise-canceling setup, as RogerPodacter wrote above. The only thing you could try is cancel the noise cancellation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700958
Yeah I don't know then. Like I said, I've plugged in my wired headset so it was not all the way inserted, which disables one or both of the Mics or something. And people say I sound like I'm in a tin can or like really far away and faint. When I push the plug all the way in it returns to normal.
So the first thing I thought of was a problem with the Mic. However only you can tell if you think its your low voice. Maybe you can try leaving yourself a few voice messages at various distances from your mouth then listen to them yourself and judge the quality to see what's going on.
Yea, good ideas roger, jack. I'll follow your suggestions, hopefully they'll solve my problem.
Meanwhile, thanks much for your help. =) you've been awesome.
It may be a microphone issue - my first N1 had problems with the microphone where the other party on the line would only hear digital noise or it would be inaudible what I was saying.
BUT I am now on my 4th replacement and something that everybody, who I talk to on that phone, agrees with is the bad sound quality / microphone quality on the phone. They all say that I am really far away as or it sounds like I am speaking into a tin can. This is across all 4 replacements.
If I use a different phone, they will say "ugh what happened, I can suddenly hear you as if you are standing next to me"
Funny, just about any Nexus review on the net, and just about any of my colleagues using it, are saying the opposite - the call clarity and sound on the other side is excellent, especially in noisy areas, where noise cancellation kicks in. I guess they're all blinded by some kind of group mind control...
Interesting, you actually bring up old threads just to bash N1, whether on real points or with bullcrap. I don't know a real person that would tolerate a bad phone, no matter how much it cost - and definitely don't know any person that would keep constantly complaining about it.
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Funny, just about any Nexus review on the net, and just about any of my colleagues using it, are saying the opposite - the call clarity and sound on the other side is excellent, especially in noisy areas, where noise cancellation kicks in. I guess they're all blinded by some kind of group mind control...
Interesting, you actually bring up old threads just to bash N1, whether on real points or with bullcrap. I don't know a real person that would tolerate a bad phone, no matter how much it cost - and definitely don't know any person that would keep constantly complaining about it.
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Troll? Did you contribute anything to this thread?
When you're on the phone, make sure that you're not covering up the hole for the mic near the camera.
I've noticed that when I have to use my shoulder to temporarily hold the phone up against my ear, the mic will rub up against my shirt, totally screwing up the noise cancellation. I've been told that when I hold the phone that way that it sounds like I'm talking through a towel.
Maybe you hold your phone weird?
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When you're on the phone, make sure that you're not covering up the hole for the mic near the camera.
I've noticed that when I have to use my shoulder to temporarily hold the phone up against my ear, the mic will rub up against my shirt, totally screwing up the noise cancellation. I've been told that when I hold the phone that way that it sounds like I'm talking through a towel.
Maybe you hold your phone weird?
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No that's not it for me.
Am definitely avoiding the second mic hole.
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Maybe you hold your phone weird?
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That explains why I can't seem to cradle the phone on my right shoulder. If what you said is true, then cradling the phone on my left shoulder should work fine. I'll try it out. Thanks Erikakaz!
On the microphone issue, I think it's because the way I held the phone when it happened might have placed the mic too far from my mouth. Perhaps the ANC thought my voice is background. I'm now holding the phone tilted during calls, so that the mic's closer to my mouth. (The mic is off center right?)
Seems to work so far.
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The speaker is decent. It even has good volume.
Iff you've got the tablet facing away from you!
This is really terrible placement of the speaker on this device. It's not a speaker for ringing as on a phone. It's a speaker that's meant to be heard when the tablet is in use with the display facing you. Cupping my hand over the speaker slit and extending that beyond the edge of the tablet works ... but isn't something you can really expect or want to do.
That's probably my biggest gripe with the tablet.
The screen isn't the best but.. I'll take it for the money.
Really, you don't like the screen? I think it has a better color tone than the iPad 3 honestly. Didn't really notice much of a difference in the resolution either.
The external sound's not too bad. If you put it on a surface then it helps amplify it, just like with a phone. The headphone sound quality on the other hand is outstanding! :good:
I wish manufacturers would figure out a way to have forward-facing speakers... my G2x has a speaker on the bottom. Better, but seriously... watching a YouTube clip without cupping my hand around the device to reflect the sound to my face would be a nice change. Meh... not that big of a deal to me but I do agree with your frustration.
It seems simple to me, there is already a bevel on these devices. They just need to make the bevel a little bit larger on the side to let the sound out. This is what my TV does and it works very well.
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I was looking at the design and from a "why did they do it that way?" perspective and two things are clear.
1. they want to present the face of the tablet as an unbroken sheet of glass (ohh, ahh!)
2. they don't want to incur the cost of putting a slit in the glass
They could reduce the size of the glass and have a very narrow molded plastic border on the top and bottom for stereo speakers. Would work a heck of a lot better but violate #1...
I really think they're destroying functionality for aesthetics.
Playbook (though bigger) does have forward facing speakers, and are probably the best sound that I've heard on a tablet mainly due to the placement.
its more so because on most phones, the microphone is at the bottom. putting a speaker next to a microphone never ends well. mainly because on calls where you use loud speaker, you'd get the endless loop/echo where the speaker feeds their audio back into the microphone. noise cancelling mics are useless for cancelling the audio since the noise cancelling mic is too far away from the speaker, so the latency doesnt help.
I somehow think putting a magnet aka speaker on the screen would cause problems with the capacitive touch.
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It sucks when you put the 7 on a stand and it is blocking the speaker and muffing the sound. But what can you do? Plug in some headphones that's what.
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Really, you don't like the screen? I think it has a better color tone than the iPad 3 honestly. Didn't really notice much of a difference in the resolution either.
The external sound's not too bad. If you put it on a surface then it helps amplify it, just like with a phone. The headphone sound quality on the other hand is outstanding! :good:
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Wait. What?! Can you provide a photo comparison of your device next to a iPad. This display has hardly any saturation or contrast compared to the iPad. The DAC in this thing is also horrid; audio sounds extremely bad with headphones. A world away from the Galaxy S III DAC.
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Really, you don't like the screen? I think it has a better color tone than the iPad 3 honestly. Didn't really notice much of a difference in the resolution either.
The external sound's not too bad. If you put it on a surface then it helps amplify it, just like with a phone. The headphone sound quality on the other hand is outstanding! :good:
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Well, I have both an iPad 3 and a Nexus 7, and while I like the Nexus 7 screen well enough, it doesn't really compare to the iPad's. Colors and saturation aren't even close, and nothing has text as good as the iPad (I think it's as much to do with how Android renders text as the resolution of the LCD). Don't get me wrong, text on the Nexus 7 is plenty good enough, but you can't say it's nearly as good as on the iPad.
My biggest problem with audio on the Nexus 7, both external and via headphones, is volume. It just doesn't get very loud. That's a complaint with the iPad 3, however, and really I have yet to come across a tablet with decent sound. So, that's not a fair knock against the Nexus 7.
Hey all...
Haven't seen this particular comparison, so thought I'd post. The LGOG was my first Android phone, and it's basically a Nexus 4 + LTE and SD Card. Also a different form factor, though both have the glass back. We've gotten a good bit of dev support for the LGOG since it's very mako-like. It's been a good learning experience for me with a good community.
The short answer is that the Nexus (mine is a white 32 gig) is significantly better than the OG in every area I've compared so far. That might seem like a no-brainer, but the OG was the G2 of its time, less than a year ago. It's no slouch.
- Form factor of the Nexus 5 is much easier to hold than the OG. N5 is slightly taller but slightly narrower, which is a big deal. I've got big hands, but the width of the OG annoyed me. OG is also slippery with that glass. I had a case on it which made it a bit more bulky, but it was necessary to keep it from flying out of my hand. The N5 is still slightly slippery, but shaped more comfortably. No glass is also a plus.
- I didn't expect to see much difference in the screen. Seriously - how much better could 1080p be than 720p at these screen sizes? But wow, there's a difference. Much sharper and clearer. I agree with those who have said it's a little on the washed out/bright side, but that can be addressed with kernel mods.
- The Snapdragon 800 is impressive. Definitely snappier than the already snappy S4 Pro in the OG. You can still see the "Android Scrolling Stutter" on occasion, especially in the Facebook app and sometimes in Chrome, but the whole package is super fast. Reinstalling 100 apps was very quick and there's no lag outside of the rare scrolling issue.
- Maybe more important for me than the speed was the sound. OG has ... ummmm ... less than optimal sound. Not sure if it was the same in the N4, but even the old iPhone just blow it out of the water. Low output, a little noisy, a little thin. Just not good. So far, the N5 is hugely better, I believe due to the DAC on the 800. Output through the headphone jack, which I run to my car stereo, has a much higher output level and no audible noise at normal volumes. This makes me happy.
- Likewise, the external speaker on the N5 is a huge improvement over the OG. OG was thin sounding and bottom-facing - not a good combo. To hear videos, I had to cup my hand around the back and direct the sound towards ... you know ... my ears. N5 speaker is louder, definitely has more lower end, and is actually usable to listen to music. Ringtones, for some reason, aren't nearly as loud as music, but sound is again easy adjustable with kernel tweaks.
- Phone sound quality is another area of great gain. I "worked from home" today while waiting for the phone, and when I got it I called my wife. Night and day sound. Really sounded like she was right next to me. OG wasn't bad, but N5 is impressive. The speaker phone on the N5 is just an extension of the previously-mentioned external speaker, and the better quality carries over. I had an hour-long work conference call this afternoon and voices were loud and clear.
This is too long already, so I'll stop. But I'm a satisfied man on first take here. Looking forward to playing around with it more, getting an idea of battery life and checking out some dev work.
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Hey guys, I just got my Moto X yesterday, but the vibrator is very loud and is doing a rattle noise, it's very annoying.
Is anyone experiencing this? Any fix?
The vibration just sucks on the phone sadly
I always seem to have bad luck with vibration motors but not this time around. On my X it's super quiet, but plenty strong.
OP yes, its loud and it sucks....what can you do, I think the placement of the motor is what makes is sound and feel so bad.
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OP yes, its loud and it sucks....what can you do, I think the placement of the motor is what makes is sound and feel so bad.
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Yeah what a shame, I might return it and maybe I get lucky and get back a better unit I don't know ...
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OP yes, its loud and it sucks....what can you do, I think the placement of the motor is what makes is sound and feel so bad.
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If that was the case then they would all be loud. Again, mine is super quiet, and actually among the best of any of the phones I've owned. One of the first things I noticed when I first got my X was how great the vibration sounded.
The problem is the sound it makes it 'hollow', not really sure how to describe it....it doesnt sound like its defective or broken...just doesnt sound or feel 'right'
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The problem is the sound it makes it 'hollow', not really sure how to describe it....it doesnt sound like its defective or broken...just doesnt sound or feel 'right'
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Not mine, it's very nice and high quality sounding. The vibration is one of the things I'm most picky about, and I'm super happy with the way my X sounds. I know last year's X had some units that were good and some that weren't. Mine was terrible last year but everything else was flawless so I lived with it.
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Mine is quiet, feels almost as nice as a samsung phone, much better than my previous htc' s; on my htc one of the speakers had a problem and the replaced it together with the vibration, after that repair my htc felt a lot better no rattling. I would return your phone for warranty
Got it. Well I'm returning mine. Not for this 'issue' but gong with something different.
Same for me. Low vibrations but noisy. But I don't want to return for this for the moment.
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The problem is the sound it makes it 'hollow', not really sure how to describe it....it doesnt sound like its defective or broken...just doesnt sound or feel 'right'
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Yeah, mine seems like that, not broken, but, strange, like if it is a little loose... It makes a LOT of noise, i will search for another moto X and see if it makes the same noise. I can hear the vibrations even when i press the keyboards buttons!
Hi guys,
Been using mine for 4 days now and aside average battery life, my main concern is about the volume of the earpiece during phonecalls. It's way lower than what i am used to...
Have you noticed that too or do i have a faulty one?
Same here, very low volume and thought I have a faulty unit also
Thank you for your answer. I saw that it depends on who you call but overall, volume is definitely lower than other phones..
I actually cant stand the location of the earpiece or maybe it's because it's an extremely small cutout. If you get your ears at the very top it's adequately loud.
Indeed, placement is hard to find and the cutout seems very small. That can explain the difference i feel. Thanks
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I actually cant stand the location of the earpiece or maybe it's because it's an extremely small cutout. If you get your ears at the very top it's adequately loud.
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Yes, I notice that as well, I had to keep phone lower than other phones, for a moment I Was thinking that voice coming from top speaker