What's up XDA another noob question I know, but I can't quite figure this one out.
I just setup A2SD and I set the ext partition size to 512MB. It appears to be working sort of,
because I went from having 15MB of space to 89MB of space.
But, my question is, where is the rest of that space? I assumed I would have and additional 512MB of internal space for storage of apps.
And, I don't know where that 89MB figure comes from.
apollostees said:
What's up XDA another noob question I know, but I can't quite figure this one out.
I just setup A2SD and I set the ext partition size to 512MB. It appears to be working sort of,
because I went from having 15MB of space to 89MB of space.
But, my question is, where is the rest of that space? I assumed I would have and additional 512MB of internal space for storage of apps.
And, I don't know where that 89MB figure comes from.
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89M is how much is free on /data.. /data/apps is a symlink to your SD card now, and is no long requiring space on /data
30-40m or more is dalvik cache. Since you have 89m of free space, I'd leave dalvik alone.
As for how much more space for programs, you have 512m total, as long as dalvik doesn't fill /data. In that case you could move dalvik to the SD card as well, but that's a pretty insane amount of apps installed for that to be a problem.
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hey guys,
im running the latest cmod build (4.2.13),all my apps are on my partitioned sd card and everything is doing what it is supposed to be doing.
except after a while my phone slows down so much that im not capable of doing anything regular anymore. i found out my internal memory gets filled up after a while (2 weeks?).
currently my internal memory only has 28mb of space left. Also when i reboot the phone the internal memory is still around the same. how is this possible? shouldnt it be like 90mb's of free space..?
what is filling my internal memory so much it slows down my phone like not being capable of using it in an normal matter.
i dont know where its comming from so i dont know how to fix it!
best regards
Well the first step would be to actually go in and check what files are being created, where, and what their sizes are.
and how is that possible? the files are being created in the internal memory, not on the sd card.
Same problem
I have the same issue! Need help!
Try to clean all caches (browser, news, ...) . Application caches fill up often internal memory.
perhaps you can get CacheMate application for this purpose.
i had the same problem and yes, it was the data/cache of my apps that was taking up all my interna memory
Here's the scoop, I have a rooted N1 and flashed, Froyo Vanilla AOSP 2.2 for N1, which I picked up from ChrisSoyars Twitter feed. It works wonderful, but my available storage is 152MB....is this correct?? When I bought the phone I had 181MB of available storage or something close to that. I don't have any apps installed and that is why I find this kinda odd>>>>>>I just saw that FB, Google Voice, Twitter and Google Goggles are installed, but this still doesn't look right.
So, though the N1 claims it has 512MB storage we can only use 200MB of it???
And why do I have less now than before??
Can anyone help clear this up for me....
Thank you.
You seem to be getting your jargon confused.
bane126 said:
So, though the N1 claims it has 512MB storage we can only use 200MB of it???
And why do I have less now than before??
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Are you talking about memory or storage? The N1 shipped with 512MB of memory, of which only about 256MB was accessible. With the Froyo update you will have access to all of your 512MB of memory finally.
The 200MB you're talking about seems to be the internal storage. That will be different after updating because different OS images are different sizes. Also your internal space will vary with the size of various application caches. Nothing to worry about.
pfmiller said:
You seem to be getting your jargon confused.
Are you talking about memory or storage? The N1 shipped with 512MB of memory, of which only about 256MB was accessible. With the Froyo update you will have access to all of your 512MB of memory finally.
The 200MB you're talking about seems to be the internal storage. That will be different after updating because different OS images are different sizes. Also your internal space will vary with the size of various application caches. Nothing to worry about.
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You actually have your jargon confused
N1 shipped with 512mb RAM and 512mb ROM
The 512mb RAM is not what hes talking about. There is 512mb of storage but only some of that is available to install apps with
storage requires a type of memory. flash memory. -_-
RAM = memory
Flash = memory
As for the question, the 512mb storage is split for system files and applications. you only have that much space for applications
Yeah, flash is technically a type of memory but it's not a good idea to call it just memory without elaboration because by default "memory" refers to volatile memory.
Okay, so now that I am on Froyo I should have 512MB of memory aKa RAM available as opposed to the 256MB of RAM that Eclair was allowed to use?? And the reason I have 152MB of internal storage is because of the OS and the applications are eating into the 512MB of internal storage the phone shipped with??
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Yeah, flash is technically a type of memory but it's not a good idea to call it just memory without elaboration because by default "memory" refers to volatile memory.
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it does not default to volatile memory. its all a matter of context. his context clearly indicated that he was referring to his onboard storage lol
its just that the general population doesnt care to make a distinction haha
bane126 said:
Okay, so now that I am on Froyo I should have 512MB of memory aKa RAM available as opposed to the 256MB of RAM that Eclair was allowed to use?? And the reason I have 152MB of internal storage is because of the OS and the applications are eating into the 512MB of internal storage the phone shipped with??
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yes your exactly right. the storage is split up into chunks. only one piece is dedicated to apps
Thank you for clearing this up.
I installed the eVil rom on my N1 and I am now constantly getting the low error message. I could not care less about it but it looks like it's preventing the phone from downloading any updates or new apps. Yes I still think I have more than 200MB available. I've zapped lots of apps and slim down what's on the phone to the barebone. I do not want to go through any A2SD workaround, also because I do not really have much on the phone and whatever I can move to the SD has already been moved.
Is there an alternative solution to this bugging message ?
P_
There isnt actually a workaround for this. You simply need more space. While its debatable how much space in enough space, most people would agree that you should keep at least 50mb internal space on a Nexus One. I have 132 apps installed and have 150mb free on mine.
Apps2sd/apps2ext is definetely worth the small amount of time it takes to setup.
You can't have more than 200MB available, since all the app storage space is 196MB.
Apps2EXT doesn't work in the same way as Froyo's Apps2SD, and frees MUCH more space - including Dalvik-cache.
With this message showing, you don't get any text messages (SMS) - they're lost.
Can't I just move the dalvik-cache manually and create a sim link to it.
P_
You can (move it to /cache). You also can do it to the "data/data" folder. You also can completely replicate all the work of Apps2EXT, and you can manually repartition the SD card and write the boot scripts that will mount the EXT partition. The question is - why would you want to waste your time doing that, when somebody already created something that you need.
First off, I suspect you're not looking at the right thing.. Settings->SD Card and Phone Storage and look at Internal Phone Storage for available space.. It's <20, yes?
You can try clearing Browser cache from the Settings->Applications...
How many apps do you have installed? Any HUGE apps, like Nook, Google Earth, Flash, etc? If so, maybe you do need to do apps2ext to free up space.
If that's not enough, then DO NOT move dalvik-cache to /cache, it's NOT BIG ENOUGH. If you're running out of space using apps2ext your dalvik-cache is probably 100M or more, and /cache has 96M, and you do not want to run out of space for dalvik-cache. If you must, move it to the SD card.
Hi there!
I use a G1 with Super E mod.
apps2ext with a 512 mb ext partion for that.
I have about 60 apps installed, all working well.
now i installed the new opera mini and the message "few storage" poped up..
I uninstalled it, but the message didn't disappear.
Then I look it up: only 5 mb left
I removed some other apps, but as suggested, this didn't free up much space (~,5 mb), because of apps2ext..
I cleared my cache using nandroid, but still the same..
What is using all my phone space?
can I clean that up somehow?
Thanks!
Cholera
As you wrote, you have apps to sd, so most likely the app are not stored on /data, but on /sd-ext/...
Cleaning /cache will not help you, because it's almost unused. The problem you might have is, that internal space on /data is filled up, so try to clear all the application caches, especially browser, market, ....
This should free up some amount of memory and you should be able to install Opera Mini.
i ran into this same problem a couple of days ago. it was a difference of method to get this error however. my phone crashed after trying to open an app and then corrupted alot of my apps so i had to uninstall and re-install. i then found it was telling me i had low space. i cleared all my caches and checked which apps were installed on my phone and which on SD. however the only comonality is the Opera Mobile app. i too installed it when i got this error too. can this be a coincidence or not?
market cache: 450kb
browser cache: 200kb
opera mini cahce: 0kb
gmail storage : 800 kb
news and weather: 28kb
downlolad manager: 250kb
deleted these, but still have 7,8 mb free space..
had a look at /data:
du ./data -h : 47mb used
I had a closer look at the stuff and found:
13.1M ./com.opera.browser/lib
even if i dont have opera mobile installed, i also found
925.5K ./com.opera.mini.android
which i currently use...
removed the com.opera.browser .. 20mb free...
additional apps that use much space here:
# du ./ -h |grep M
1.5M ./com.facebook.katana
1.7M ./com.rovio.angrybirds
1.0M ./com.android.providers.contacts/databases
3.0M ./com.adobe.reader
17.5M ./com.navigon.navigator
these are large, but ok..
and this one:
899.5K ./com.android.packageinstaller/files -> i delete the tmpCopy.apk
now i have a bit of a breath.. lets see what we can delete from the system
i created an sd-ext and lost about 250 mb of internal memory. what gives? also, i see no extra partitions anywhere and i dont know where my apps to sd are
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i created an sd-ext and lost about 250 mb of internal memory. what gives? also, i see no extra partitions anywhere and i dont know where my apps to sd are
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im not sure about the loss of space, however you will not see an ext partition using windows as it does not recognise it. with some file explorers you can pick it up if im right. otherwise you have to use linux on the sd card to see the partition. it cannot be done via the usb mount
I thought it might be something like that. i'm a windows guy. mcse. but i know zip about unix/linux. lol. it doesn't make sense though to presumably make a partition on the card and then it takes from your internal space. so I don't see the point of partitioning your card. hence, app2sd seems useless. I cannot find an explanation anywhere of how it works. also, I have an incredible, what the hell is that 8gb of memory for. no explanation anywhere. it just sits there free. what is it for if it can't be utilized?
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I thought it might be something like that. i'm a windows guy. mcse. but i know zip about unix/linux. lol. it doesn't make sense though to presumably make a partition on the card and then it takes from your internal space. so I don't see the point of partitioning your card. hence, app2sd seems useless. I cannot find an explanation anywhere of how it works. also, I have an incredible, what the hell is that 8gb of memory for. no explanation anywhere. it just sits there free. what is it for if it can't be utilized?
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I cant understand why its taken up space on your phone tfor a2sd apart from when it adds the data files for the apps. the a2sd partition stores the apps on the sd card in a partition that it cons the phone into thinking is an internal section.
Where is the 8gb you are referring to? is it on the phone or the card?
traumatism said:
I cant understand why its taken up space on your phone tfor a2sd apart from when it adds the data files for the apps. the a2sd partition stores the apps on the sd card in a partition that it cons the phone into thinking is an internal section.
Where is the 8gb you are referring to? is it on the phone or the card?
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exactly! there is 8gb free. well, 7+, but I don't know linux. so it's just a waste. i ended up reformatting my card and got the space back on my internal memory. can anyone explain that? I gave it a shot cuz I know computers and it worked. i back up everything, but it's a 2 hour downtime. I would just like to know what the heck is the point? anyone know what that 8gb is wasted for on the Incredible?
what rom were you using or trying to use? all the info helps solve the issue
traumatism said:
what rom were you using or trying to use? all the info helps solve the issue
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using ultimate droid now. no themes. pretty simple. have used several rom's. no one can explain what the 8gb is for. not even verizon. or HTC.
the incredible has 750mb of internal storage. I can see that's for apps and OS. but there are 8gb of other internal memory that is free. wtf? I've been kind of ignoring it thinking it might be for future use or something, til I partitioned my sd card and realized it took from that 750mb space.
as far as i know it shouldnt have taken anything from that space at all. it should have done what every computer does and only create a partition on the card. thats odd. do you get any names for the areas that are free? like you would with a folder name.
traumatism said:
as far as i know it shouldnt have taken anything from that space at all. it should have done what every computer does and only create a partition on the card. thats odd. do you get any names for the areas that are free? like you would with a folder name.
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thats what i thought. like i said, i know windows through and through. there was no indication of a partition anywhere. kind of bugs me. always heard linux was easy. still would like to know about that 8gb too. don't get me wrong, i love the droid, but the way memory and or storage works makes no sense at all
there is an app called root explorer on the market. its a paid app but it lets you explorer all the folders and from what i can see the ext partition is known as sd-ext. sdcard is the obv one. system is the rom or os as it were and if installed correctly (only know this from the G1(Dream)) the data folder is where it stores all the information and settings for the apps and system settings
have you checked your text messages? because those also takes up space too, even tho text messages are really small in size, but if you have a LOT of them without deleting them, over time they usually build up
Hi guys,
You may know App2SD that is used for moving apps from phone memory to the SD card, in order to free up space on the phone. My question is, do we get any benefit from this app? Because the Nexus 7 has only internal memory.
Thanks,
vndnguyen said:
Hi guys,
You may know App2SD that is used for moving apps from phone memory to the SD card, in order to free up space on the phone. My question is, do we get any benefit from this app? Because the Nexus 7 has only internal memory.
Thanks,
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You basically answered your own question, Nexus 7 only has internal memory. That app is useless for Nexus 7, because it doesn't have an sd card
Sometimes apps get installed to a different bit of the internal memory, as if it's installing to a virtual sd card partition, but it's really just another section of your internal memory (/data) partition.
In short, you can shuffle the apps around all you like, but they'll still be on /data.
To actually free up some space on /data, you could move some apps to the /system partition, or move some updated system apps back to the system partition with an app like 'System Cleanup'
Sure, thank you mate.
Could you guide me in details how to "move some updated system apps back to the system partition with an app like 'System Cleanup' " as you said above?
vndnguyen said:
Sure, thank you mate.
Could you guide me in details how to "move some updated system apps back to the system partition with an app like 'System Cleanup' " as you said above?
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(Assume you're rooted)
- Install and open SystemCleanup
- By default, you should see updated system apps at the top of the list, should have some red text
- Click on each icon on the left hand side until it has a tick
- Long press (Update system apps)
- Press back, will ask you to reboot...then reboot
This moves the app from /data/app to and overwrites the old redundant copy on /system/app
You can also try to select some apps on /data and do the same thing as above, long press and select 'Move app to /system/app', reboot. This may not work for all apps though. For instance, I install a 3rd party launcher and move it to /system/app, and delete the stock launcher using 'SystemCleanup' as well.
Can save a little space this way, make sure you have enough space on /system in the first place, will say how much free space at the top.
very good guide. Thank you so much.
Cheers
Hi @eddiehk6
I have another question. Does it matter if I move apps to /system partition and this partition becomes almost full? Does it affect to overall perfomance?
vndnguyen said:
Hi @eddiehk6
I have another question. Does it matter if I move apps to /system partition and this partition becomes almost full? Does it affect to overall perfomance?
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Don't know to be honest. Depends what you fill the space with. System apps are given higher memory priority I believe, not absolutely certain but you'd have to read
I don't think SystemCleanup will allow you to fill it up the /system partition to the maximum as it were, so there's no danger of it not booting. I just use it to optimise space a little. It's much more useful on my Desire with very limited space compared to the Nexus 7
vndnguyen said:
Hi guys,
You may know App2SD that is used for moving apps from phone memory to the SD card, in order to free up space on the phone. My question is, do we get any benefit from this app? Because the Nexus 7 has only internal memory.
Thanks,
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The N7 is very effective at managing it's internal memory, if anything using apps that supposedly optimize or move data around are detrimental to the overall lifespan of your N7's internal memory.
If the wear leveling mechanic of the N7's memory controller is doing it's job properly all the controller really is doing is lying to the app that wants to move crap around willy nilly and just keeping it in the same place anyway.
Aside from deleting crap you dont need there is zero benefit and most likely nothing but bad results if you think you can do a better job managing the memory better than a memory controller and android OS that can run through millions+ of calculations in the time it takes you to blink.
It's fine where it is.