Sorry for another GPS question. I know that the GPS is meant to be inaccurate, but I can't get it to work at all with Google Maps. I always get the "Your Location is currently unavailable" message when I try to find my location with it. I upgraded to the latest firmware over KIES but that didn't fix it. It sometimes works with other apps, and the tests seem to show it connecting (if slowly and inaccurately). Does anyone know how to fix this?
"Your Location is currently unavailable" doesn't come from the GPS, but it comes from the Tower Network Location Service that is the other check box above the GPS settings screen
Just fixed his very issue
I had no blue dot in Google Maps.
I needed to disable wifi. Enable data through 3G.
The blue my location returned with my towers position.
I disabled 3g, enabled wifi.
All fixed now, very relieved
thanks but neither of these methods work.
Maybe your telco does not provide tower info
it actually started working again randomly. this might be a stupid question but why does google maps not use the Gps?
TNStrangelove said:
it actually started working again randomly. this might be a stupid question but why does google maps not use the Gps?
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it can use both
Towers and/or GPS
i too have some issues with google maps and my location:
ignoring how long it takes to get my location (sometimes really fast, sometimes too long) ... it seems that it get the position using just wifi (gps ans gsm disabled), with gps, or just with the gsm on ... cool
but: sometimes i don't get my location in google maps (location unavailable!), even though i can get it in other applications that use google maps : like a tracking app ... or in google earth ... or in antennas ... etc
how can i fix this?
thank u!
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Is this function in our Kaiser? I've enable it from the Kaiser Tweak but today i tested it when i was in a tunnel....it did not work at all and the tunnel was 4 KM long....it should have had enough time to get a fix if it was working.
Is the Assisted GPS what i think it is?
How do you expect to get a GPS fix in a tunnel???
AGPS is basically what the QuickGPS app. does: it downloads sat. data (satellite locations) via a network connection from a server, so that TTF (time to fix) is reduced, since the device doesn´t have to download above data from the satellites themselves - which is slow....
Hope I was not too unclear, doing a search will give you much more and detailed info about how GPS works......and it doesn´t in tunnles....
As mentioned above, the AGPS uses server information (via cellular network) to locate the GPS satellite for a quicker fix and hash conditions. For a 4KM tunnel, I'm sure that your phone would have lost both GPS and network signal.
michi123 said:
How do you expect to get a GPS fix in a tunnel???
AGPS is basically what the QuickGPS app. does: it downloads sat. data (satellite locations) via a network connection from a server, so that TTF (time to fix) is reduced, since the device doesn´t have to download above data from the satellites themselves - which is slow....
Hope I was not too unclear, doing a search will give you much more and detailed info about how GPS works......and it doesn´t in tunnles....
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Thats correct, there are som applications that tries to estimate where in the tunnel you are when the fix is gone. But I suppose this is a function of the application and not the GPS hardware
I stand partially corrected........ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS
michi123 said:
How do you expect to get a GPS fix in a tunnel???
AGPS is basically what the QuickGPS app. does: it downloads sat. data (satellite locations) via a network connection from a server, so that TTF (time to fix) is reduced, since the device doesn´t have to download above data from the satellites themselves - which is slow....
Hope I was not too unclear, doing a search will give you much more and detailed info about how GPS works......and it doesn´t in tunnles....
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Which is why the title is "Assisted GPS".....I've done some search on AGPS and it's suppose to use the cellular to still get a fix when in the tunnel. Well....i read it sometime ago way before Kaiser was out and this was actually one of it's talked about feature in Kaiser. Using the Kaiser Tweak, one can enable this feature but i've tested it today in the tunnel with strong cellular signal, the GPS is dead until i came out of the tunnel.
I guess it also has to be supported by the particular program. Many TomTom PNAs have a dead reckoning mode which shows your position in a tunnel based on your "entry" speed for about 30 seconds, than the position freezes in the tunnel. Now that of course has nothing to do with AGPS, but it´s a way of overcoming temporary signal loss.
Best way would be to have an inertial sensor built into the phone like in fix-mounted car-navs......but then again, that would be overkill....
You have to remember that the Assisted GPS (Cellular network mode) relies on the fact the network itself supports the feature. I know most in the UK don't have it turned on in general use. They only allow it to be used by emergency services and the likes.
Perhaps that's the same in your country?
the_ape said:
You have to remember that the Assisted GPS (Cellular network mode) relies on the fact the network itself supports the feature. I know most in the UK don't have it turned on in general use. They only allow it to be used by emergency services and the likes.
Perhaps that's the same in your country?
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Probably so.....oh well....it was worth a try
Thanks guys for the input.
So the internal GPS is one of the primary reasons I wanted the Kaiser, but when it comes down to it, it's the rare occasion that I actually use the GPS for much, especially stuff outside of basic "where am I" and "how do I get there" with gmaps...
Even when using quickgps, sometimes when I need to know where I am in relation to somewhere I'm going, quickly, it can still take way too long to pick up sat signals. I was in the car with a friend the other night (this is a guy that I constantly harass for having an iPhone (and he harasses me for the opposite)) and when we both pulled out our phones with gmaps, he knew right where we were, instantly, while all I could do was sit there and try my hardest to not make excuses about why I wasn't picking up a sat signal quickly.
Unless I'm using other GPS software, for my uses with gmaps, I'd really rather just be able to use the triangulation that non-GPS phones use. I tried turning off the GPS (GPS program port: None) in settings, but gmaps just searches anyway, not finding any hardware and/or sats.
Is what I want to do possible? I'm sure I'll get several responses on how I can speed up my sat signal pickup, which is NOT what I'm looking for. I just want to be able to use gmaps "My Location" without using the internal GPS, thus saving battery as well as getting a quicker pickup on where I am...
TIA
Geo
Yes, what your asking for is just using "My Location" without GPS. I use "My Location" all the time it does not activate my GPS. Here is an article that confirms "My Location" does not use GPS.
http://gigaom.com/2007/11/28/google-my-location/
-McMex
mcmexican said:
Yes, what your asking for is just using "My Location" without GPS. I use "My Location" all the time it does not activate my GPS. Here is an article that confirms "My Location" does not use GPS.
http://gigaom.com/2007/11/28/google-my-location/
-McMex
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I know that My Location can be used without GPS, I'm just wondering if it's possible on a Kaiser. Assuming you have a Kaiser device, what and how do you have it set up so that gmaps doesn't activate/use GPS, but instead uses the cell towers?
On my device using GoogleMaps 2.0.0.11 the option for My Location works separately from Use GPS. The location (within 1.7KM) is picked up within seconds, GPS does take longer but is accurate to individual rooms within my home. The Cell based locator is obviously dependent on your Carriers Cell towers and I know in the past I have been unable to get a location over HSDPA or 3G but GPRS worked. Now though on TMobile UK at home I can get my cell based location using any non Wifi data connection.
Smack! Smack!
wizzzard said:
On my device using GoogleMaps 2.0.0.11 the option for My Location works separately from Use GPS. The location (within 1.7KM) is picked up within seconds, GPS does take longer but is accurate to individual rooms within my home. The Cell based locator is obviously dependent on your Carriers Cell towers and I know in the past I have been unable to get a location over HSDPA or 3G but GPRS worked. Now though on TMobile UK at home I can get my cell based location using any non Wifi data connection.
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Ah, my apologies. Turns out I was not using the latest version. I've installed v2 with separate GPS/My Location, and My Location without GPS works great!
Thanks to all.
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I know that My Location can be used without GPS, I'm just wondering if it's possible on a Kaiser. Assuming you have a Kaiser device, what and how do you have it set up so that gmaps doesn't activate/use GPS, but instead uses the cell towers?
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By default My Location DOES NOT use GPS. You have to enable GPS from the menu.
Yes I have a Kaiser (actually 2at&t Tilts) and use Google Maps (v2.0.0.12)
kyphur said:
By default My Location DOES NOT use GPS. You have to enable GPS from the menu.
Yes I have a Kaiser (actually 2at&t Tilts) and use Google Maps (v2.0.0.12)
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Yes, I found this out by installing the latest Google Maps (after my last ROM flash, I installed gmaps from a cab I already had on sd, which was apparently not a recent version).
Thank you - I love the fact that I can use gmaps without GPS now for the quick "where am I" without having to wait, but can still use GPS when I feel like it, and also still have it enabled in Settings for use in other GPS programs.
Thanks again
I've been having this problem for a while. I'm currently running FroYo
which i thought would help but it doesnt. I've ensured that My Location
Services are on but Maps and Earth keep showing my location off the coast
of Jamaica when i'm actually in Antigua. I've travelled to numerous
countries and i'm always still in Jamiaca when running from cell towers. I
hardly ever get a satellite fix, i only get it using 'GPS Status' and it
still works like 1 in every 20 tries, but when i do get a fix it is
accurate. My latitude privacy setting is set to "detect location," my GPS
and Cell tower location are on so i dont know why i'm always near Jamaica.
When i use the third party app "Anntenna" it shows the cell towers i'm
connected to and gives me a near accurate location, but maps just does not
show me anywhere near where i am and sometime it just says "your current
location is temporarily unavailable." Is there something i can do to test
that the hardware is functioning as it supposed to? idk what else to do
I've tried: Clearing the maps data cache, uninstalling and reinstalling,
powering off, hard reseting, switching privacy setting in Latitude and
nothing seems to work..someone help!
I have noticed when I am running on 3G (H) I get the "location temporarily unavailable" notice, but if I force it to not go to 3G it will be E and I get my location. This holds true if I have setting for using GPS or not.
This seems to be a problem with Google Maps using the data transfer method of 3G (H) versus E.
I was curious as to why there is a button in the notifications menu to turn GPS on and off. I started to look in to it and discovered that there is indeed a GPS chip in the wife only version, or there seems to be anyway!
My question is, what does that chip exactly do? Does it only pick up your location? I can't seem to find any places around me with wifi off. I'm assuming that means all the map and location data is delivered over the internet through 3g or wifi. Is there anyway to use my device as I would a regular GPS device? I know it has all the features but can they work through the GPS chip like they do in a GPS device? Or is there anyway to get this to work?
spyderz said:
I was curious as to why there is a button in the notifications menu to turn GPS on and off. I started to look in to it and discovered that there is indeed a GPS chip in the wife only version, or there seems to be anyway!
My question is, what does that chip exactly do? Does it only pick up your location? I can't seem to find any places around me with wifi off. I'm assuming that means all the map and location data is delivered over the internet through 3g or wifi. Is there anyway to use my device as I would a regular GPS device? I know it has all the features but can they work through the GPS chip like they do in a GPS device? Or is there anyway to get this to work?
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Ok the wifi is mainly just for accessing networks either open or via ssd and password. You can also connected with mobile AP if your mobile has this option.
The GPS on the other-hand is for mapping and location based services like navigation etc (you can use copilot and several other gps based apps with the P1010). Some of these apps will also piggy back any Bluetooth and or wifi connections that are available for further triangulation if needed. So if you have any apps like various weather and navigation then the GPS is required (but also your location can be shared via your wifi and opt in to give this info through google).
Hope this helps
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I was curious as to why there is a button in the notifications menu to turn GPS on and off. I started to look in to it and discovered that there is indeed a GPS chip in the wife only version, or there seems to be anyway!
My question is, what does that chip exactly do? Does it only pick up your location? I can't seem to find any places around me with wifi off. I'm assuming that means all the map and location data is delivered over the internet through 3g or wifi. Is there anyway to use my device as I would a regular GPS device? I know it has all the features but can they work through the GPS chip like they do in a GPS device? Or is there anyway to get this to work?
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you can find your location via wifi, enable your wifi and turn gps on, you'll find your coordinates, but not that accurate compare to 3g
My new Vivid used to show the city where I am located in the home page, along with weather.
As of today, the city is no longer named; and it just says "Current Location" with a current weather that does not seem to be relevant to where I am or no weather at all. See attached.
I have both Use Wireless networks and Use GPS checked in the Settings>Location.
When I try to Sync Weather, it says that it is "unable to contact location services" to determine my location.
Has the Google Location Services database gone upside down?
I have not been able to get any websites to find my location. I realized this the other day when NextBus gave an error "Sorry, but we could not determine your location. Error: Failed to start Geolocation service." I've tried other websites as well and none of them can access the phones GPS location. "Enable location" is selected on the settings (I tried turning it on and off). Has anyone else had this problem? The maps application does find my location correctly.
I think there's an issue with Goggle Location Services. Everything worked fine for a while today, but now we're back into the "unable to contact the location service" error message when starting the weather app; and Goggle Maps puts me in the right place just fine.
I think my home WiFi is preventing the Vivid from contacting the Loaction Service. When I turned WiFi access off in the Vivid, the Location and Weather seemed to work A-OK. When I turned WiFi access back on, it no longer gave me my location or weather.
Could Be AT&T
I have not had this problem with the Vivid, but I had the problem a time or two with my HD2 on T-Mobile and AT&T. Sometimes, the phone cannot locate enough towers to get a good triangulation fix for your location. A tower may be out of service. I had the problem last for a day or so on T-Mobile before it started working again.
As to WiFi, I wonder if turning on the WiFi causes the data connection to shut down or switch connection from the "3G/4G" radio to the WiFi. I have not tested it.
I recall seeing in another thread where someone questioned the accuracy and completenes of the Google Location Serrvices data, but I think it is a tower porblem. If you can, try it from a different location later in the day.
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As to WiFi, I wonder if turning on the WiFi causes the data connection to shut down or switch connection from the "3G/4G" radio to the WiFi. I have not tested it.
If you can, try it from a different location later in the day.
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Any locations where I do not have a WiFi connection, even though it's turned on and not connected, work fine for location and weather. If I log on to a WiFi network - no matter where, the location and weather stop syncing and properly displaying.
DUTCH Van Atlanta said:
Any locations where I do not have a WiFi connection, even though it's turned on and not connected, work fine for location and weather. If I log on to a WiFi network - no matter where, the location and weather stop syncing and properly displaying.
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That sounds like a question that needs to be sent to HTC. IF the WiFi connection is shutting down the data connection, that could be a problem. Of course, it could be something else. I installed the HTC weather widget with WiFi running and the weather widget immediately displayed the current temp for my location.
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That sounds like a question that needs to be sent to HTC.
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Done. No response.
this could be a tower issue with your cell provider. When i had the HTC Aria location worked great then all of a sudden i only got Current city or a location about 20 miles away which was near my work. location worked at work but not at home.
I called att support and they did a engineering ticket or something and it was resolved within the week.
That is a common problem with att android phones.
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DUTCH Van Atlanta said:
My new Vivid used to show the city where I am located in the home page, along with weather.
As of today, the city is no longer named; and it just says "Current Location" with a current weather that does not seem to be relevant to where I am or no weather at all. See attached.
I have both Use Wireless networks and Use GPS checked in the Settings>Location.
When I try to Sync Weather, it says that it is "unable to contact location services" to determine my location.
Has the Google Location Services database gone upside down?
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Are you using a different APN? My location service got all jacked up when I changed my APN after I got throttled.
Dawakat said:
Are you using a different APN? My location service got all jacked up when I changed my APN after I got throttled.
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No. Stock out of the ATT box. No changes.
If you are near wi-fi turn on your wi-fi and try refreshing the location you are at and make sure your phone is actually connecting to the internet by trying to go to a webpage if it isn't try restarting the phone and or doing a factory reset. Sometimes the UI will completely glitch out so I would try those and if still nothing return it because at that point I would say it's an actual hardware issue if you go all the way to the point of restoring the phone.
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If you are near wi-fi turn on your wi-fi and try refreshing the location you are at and make sure your phone is actually connecting to the internet by trying to go to a webpage if it isn't try restarting the phone and or doing a factory reset. Sometimes the UI will completely glitch out so I would try those and if still nothing return it because at that point I would say it's an actual hardware issue if you go all the way to the point of restoring the phone.
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HTC Support wanted me to put the device into the Safe Mode (prevents 3rd party apps and drivers from loading) and observe it for 24-48 hrs to see if the problem persists. I have not done that yet, as a battery pull is hard work with the phone in an Otterbox Defender case.