Is it possible a Windows Phone 7 ROM for Topaz?
In the conference, seems WP7 is pretty amazing...
From what I understand, our phones don't have enough horsepower to run WP7. Gotta have at least a 1ghz processor. There are other requirements also but I can't remember them.
yeah true, but do we really need 1ghz. There is always the option, that most topaz users, would not want the entire OS, rather few things from it. Then i dont think we need 1GHZ.
What do you think?
I think the 1GHz and 576mb RAM is needed for Xbox life.Those new HTC phones will play most of Xbox360 games http://www.htc.com/europe/product/7trophy/overview.html
With ours Htc diamonds 2 we can't play xbox game ,but i think all other parts from os will be operating normally like as wm6.5.
user212 said:
I think the 1GHz and 576mb RAM is needed for Xbox life.Those new HTC phones will play most of Xbox360 games http://www.htc.com/europe/product/7trophy/overview.html
With ours Htc diamonds 2 we can't play xbox game ,but i think all other parts from os will be operating normally like as wm6.5.
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I don't think you will be able to play 360 games in WM7, you can access and update information on your xbox live account, and talk to friends, etc, but you wont be able to play your 360 games on your phone, windows phone 7 has its own games coming to it....
lilg_06 said:
I don't think you will be able to play 360 games in WM7, you can access and update information on your xbox live account, and talk to friends, etc, but you wont be able to play your 360 games on your phone, windows phone 7 has its own games coming to it....
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Maybe,but watch the trailer for HTC HD7 ,there the show real game play maybe i'm wrong ,but think about it.Sony has portable console -PSP ,but Xbox doesn't so, with those phone with those parameters Xbox have a portable console and it's on your phone ,but we will see when someone buy one of those HTC with wm7 and will share his experience
It's been answered many times in main WP7 thread, strict hardware requirements are needed more, if performance is not a matter, there must exist another WP7 device with a similar Qualcomm MSM7200 platform to extract drivers from.
The simple answer is NO and I really doubt there would be one.
Drakh said:
It's been answered many times in main WP7 thread, strict hardware requirements are needed more, if performance is not a matter, there must exist another WP7 device with a similar Qualcomm MSM7200 platform to extract drivers from.
The simple answer is NO and I really doubt there would be one.
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I must say by the standart no....But I know that the wp7 UI seems a low ram eater. We just need some awesome hackers that extract the basic rom and place all the features except for some like the xbox part in a rom we could use. Manilla 2.5 or sense was developed for hd2 and where using it. I beleive ut could be done. I think this requirements where made to bring the best of the phone and don't be stuck behind the lame and false publisity of the iphone.
...just we have to wait for WM7 kitchen...
i-PDA2006 said:
Is it possible a Windows Phone 7 ROM for Topaz?
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Yes, it is and I'm sure that will be a WM7 ROM for Topaz.
Of course, it could be better to have 1GHz processor but don't forget that Topaz can be safely overclocked to about 700 MHz and also don't forget that there are a lot of marketing reasons to NOT encourage porting WM7 on older mobile phones.
Sorry for bring up an old thread. Just wanna say something.
From a developer standpoint nothing is completely impossible. If someone were to make a direct port from WP7 to a slower device with less ram then some modifications will need to be done to it. This could mean leaving some parts of wp7 out (which may cause instability to applications that require those features) or developing a custom version of a system file for use in WP7 for the phone in question (also may cause instability if the programmer doesn't know what he/she's doing). Obviously it's not a simple "cut and paste" from WM to WP7.
Also, I have already tried to extract a NBH rom with WP7 on it in a WM rom extractor, just to test and see if the format was the same. The formats are different. They have differences in their sections so any normal WM boot loader wouldn't be able to load a WP7 rom in a WM rom format. A solution would probably be to flash a new boot loader to support WP7 roms however this is dangerous and has a very high risk of bricking your device (after all, the one thing that can really save you from bricking your device is your boot load to flash a new rom, so messing with the boot loader itself can do your device in for good unless you have a backup boot loader just lying around).
Take these words into consideration if you're working on a port.
MoshPuiu said:
Yes, it is and I'm sure that will be a WM7 ROM for Topaz.
Of course, it could be better to have 1GHz processor but don't forget that Topaz can be safely overclocked to about 700 MHz and also don't forget that there are a lot of marketing reasons to NOT encourage porting WM7 on older mobile phones.
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Could You pls share link to thread where are info regarding safety overclocking for Topaz mobile? Thanks.
mtucek said:
Could You pls share link to thread where are info regarding safety overclocking for Topaz mobile? Thanks.
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Just search for OCT 1.5
INFO
hmm Actually, you dont NEED a 1ghz processor, however you need a v7 instruction capable processor. TOPAZ has a v6 one, so its a no go.
On the other hand, if devs could get their hands on a the source code, remove the xbox live and strip high-requirement features then make the rom available on it should work, however WP7 was written to take advantage of v7 technology.
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hmm Actually, you dont NEED a 1ghz processor, however you need a v7 instruction capable processor. TOPAZ has a v6 one, so its a no go.
On the other hand, if devs could get their hands on a the source code, remove the xbox live and strip high-requirement features then make the rom available on it should work, however WP7 was written to take advantage of v7 technology.
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Good to read
Is windows phone 7 still not possible for Topaz?
the1980ar said:
Is windows phone 7 still not possible for Topaz?
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No it is not possible as MS need different hardware for WP and WM devices does not fit in there except the HD2 (I love my HD2 for this).
But I dont have a HD2 and only have TD2 at present. OK I will have to stay with WinMO 6.5 till I get a new WP7 mobile
Thank you all.
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hello all,
i love HTC software/ROM's (touch it from Itje), but have came across what looks to be the best software going, it is the HTC magic software, i am thinking to get rid of my xperia and getting the HTC, unless there is some amazing person who will be able to copy it to a ROM for our xperia.
have a look at following page to see for yourself:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/magic/overview.html
thank you in advance
scorpio2008 said:
hello all,
i love HTC software/ROM's (touch it from Itje), but have came across what looks to be the best software going, it is the HTC magic software, i am thinking to get rid of my xperia and getting the HTC, unless there is some amazing person who will be able to copy it to a ROM for our xperia.
have a look at following page to see for yourself:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/magic/overview.html
thank you in advance
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This is a phone with Andriod (Google's Mobile Phone OS) as OS system, so impossible to run on a Windows Mobile phone ..
FalkenX said:
This is a phone with Andriod (Google's Mobile Phone OS) as OS system, so impossible to run on a Windows Mobile phone ..
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Rubbish.
While we might not be there yet there is no technical reason why this is not achievable. We don't have drivers and specs and the like that are needed to do the job properly YET. There is nothing which fundamentally makes running Android/Linux impossible other than current lack of information.
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Rubbish.
While we might not be there yet there is no technical reason why this is not achievable. We don't have drivers and specs and the like that are needed to do the job properly YET. There is nothing which fundamentally makes running Android/Linux impossible other than current lack of information.
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Drivers and specs? Dude, please learn something about Andriod, its totally different as WM, so with a driver or some tweaks it is impossible to run on a WM phone, you would have to rebuild the whole os which isnt an opperation similar to cooking a rom..
have a read in the android dev forums. I think the SPL is different, but may be wrong. So i don't think it's as simple as just using an nbh (which is a pity).. The g1 is also a HTC device.. some of the guys on the G1 forums would explain exactly whether it was possible or not..
However there is continual development on building android for current devices, including a thread in this very forum.. See Xmoo for details..
Yeah, emulating another up-to-date OS...just think of all the the 15years old gameboy and NES-games that are still slow when they are emulated under Windows Mobile.
The only possibility would be to not emulate Android but boot it instead of Windows Mobile...but I don't think the hardware is built for this so you won't get everything to work as it's meant to be.
By the way...Android is ugly in my opinion.
i think it must be possible.....
cause the Magic has the same chipset like touch HD and so the hardware should be very similar.....
i know a guy who was flashing a symbian OS on an Sony ericsson W810i and it runs..... extremely slow but it runs.
i think the only thing would be the different display resolution...... and some driver things but i have no skills in programmng so dont ask me xD
Err...........
It is possible and even i the case of Vogue CDMA, most functions are working
Diamond and Raphael has managed to boot Android 1.0 and even get the radio working (though no bluetooth, wifi, 3G nor sound yet) so sending SMSs is possible and so is making calls, though you can't hear anything because there is no sound yet.
Blackstone also recently managed to fix the screen issue...
I'm sure there are more projects going on, but it's definitly possible to run Android on WM devices
Well I've got 1.0 booting on the x1.. Unfortunately I havent got the touchscreen working just yet... the onscreen keyboard does, not the screen.
I will work on it when I get a chance, but my linux box is at work, so experimenting is best when I get a chance there.
Screen colours are perfect, the screens still upside down though..
I'm still learning about how this works, but I'm learning quickly..
as to the talk of emulators, this isn't emulation..
The ROM of the HTC HERO is already on XDA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533808
The HD and Hero share some hardware so ...
What would be the problem when porting the Android HERO ROM to the HTC Blackstone.
Does anybody think that it will be possible to run it on the HD in the future?
No, the HW is not identical.
The fact that they have the same CPU doesn't mean that the HW is the same.
The issue can be:
1. Lack of drivers for Android platform for HD.
2. Lack of people to finalize the Andriod port on HD.
and some others.
Use search please as this question was asked a zilion times before.
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No, the HW is not identical.
The fact that they have the same CPU doesn't mean that the HW is the same.
The issue can be:
1. Lack of drivers for Android platform for HD.
2. Lack of people to finalize the Andriod port on HD.
and some others.
Use search please as this question was asked a zilion times before.
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That's why I said that they share "some"of the HW..
(I read almost all the android topics and the forum search function did not work today..)
1] This indeed seems to be a problem also in the first attempt by xmoo and others
2]Tuxhero has moved his android porting work to http://www.androidkernel.org/
I think that the most difficult part is to have at least an Android version running on HD. Any version. Afterwards will be more simple to have any android flavor on HD.
So keep the finger crossed for tuxhero.
Same specification doesn't mean they run exactly the same hardware. Display controller might be different, various controllers are different (and so are the registers), it's not as easy as people might think when it comes to porting OS to different devices. I see this as a common misconception and people usually don't (or won't) understand until they go through it (which obviously usually they don't as they prefer someone else does the things for them).
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Same specification doesn't mean they run exactly the same hardware. Display controller might be different, various controllers are different (and so are the registers), it's not as easy as people might think when it comes to porting OS to different devices. I see this as a common misconception and people usually don't (or won't) understand until they go through it (which obviously usually they don't as they prefer someone else does the things for them).
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I couldn't agree more..
I would like to be able to programme it myself, but it's an illusion to finish it before 2012 ...
I'm not really interested in Android, but the TouchFlo3D "Sense" is astonishingly amazing and i really hope to see that feature ported to the Blackstone..
The fact that you need to have the knowledge about linux kernel (plus phenomenal programming skills of course) is probably the hardest thing in porting android. Besides, blackstone isn't as affordable as other devices are, so to have people who really are committed to porting android would probably be a big bless.
There was one time when I actually thought about selling my blackstone and get G1/Magic instead..
This will be great!
Check this out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcVdcStE9po
This will be great!
Check this out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcVdcStE9po
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I'm not really interested in Android, but the TouchFlo3D "Sense" is astonishingly amazing and i really hope to see that feature ported to the Blackstone..
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I may be wrong but I think the Sense UI is android based...
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No, the HW is not identical.
The fact that they have the same CPU doesn't mean that the HW is the same.
The issue can be:
1. Lack of drivers for Android platform for HD.
2. Lack of people to finalize the Andriod port on HD.
and some others.
Use search please as this question was asked a zilion times before.
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What are the hardware differences then? I guess that would be step one of porting... How can you write drivers or search for drivers if you do not know what your looking/programming for?
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There was one time when I actually thought about selling my blackstone and get G1/Magic instead..
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On this moment this thought is still in my head, a HTC Hero or even an Iphone.
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On this moment this thought is still in my head, a HTC Hero or even an Iphone.
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Though i fight for HTC's, last night a friend with a iphone 3gs came to me and started telling me how great it is etcetc. So i told him to make a small demonstration.
The first thing he did show me was the installer and cydia, where tons of people write apps and stuff and oh boy i was impressed.
Next thing he showed me was a app called shazam, it was a small app that could recognize every song that it could hear so i was impressed as well. ( installed a wm6 version of it on mine and didnt work nearly good as it did on iphone )
Scrolling is great, its ui is great, everything runs really smooth and i kinda miss that feeling.
Now if they do write a turn-by-turn gps app like destinator or igo, i am dumping my blackstone in like seconds.
Sorry but it feels that way
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Now if they do write a turn-by-turn gps app like destinator or igo, i am dumping my blackstone in like seconds.
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iGO will release soon their iGO My Way for iPhone.
But don't dump your backstone just yet. There are still fundamental limitations in iPhone that I couldn't live with.
Your are bound to iTunes, movies all need transcoding (iPhone lasks mass storage for USB apart from HD and for movies you need tools to convert them for iPhone), you are bound by apple accesories (like in house connectors while HD has mini USB). and if I dig more I can found many more things that are not so cool about iPhone (no ROM development like for Hd that gives you some real new things).
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Next thing he showed me was a app called shazam, it was a small app that could recognize every song that it could hear so i was impressed as well.
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Shazam MusicID is also available for WM, I have it om my MIRI 6.5 ROM and it works perfect.
You can find it on piratebay, in one of the threads, and it is also included in Dutty's ROMs.
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Shazam MusicID is also available for WM, I have it om my MIRI 6.5 ROM and it works perfect.
You can find it on piratebay, in one of the threads, and it is also included in Dutty's ROMs.
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Like i said, i installed musid id on my hd, and i had them next to the iphone trying to identify the same songs and it had a success rate of 50%
Very possibly the most useless reason to get an iPhone I have heard so far...
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Like i said, i installed musid id on my hd, and i had them next to the iphone trying to identify the same songs and it had a success rate of 50%
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Then I show you these things:
- You can ask your friend to watch a video clip on youtube and you'll be proud of your HD.( HD is high definition and larger screen, faster than Iphone, I'm sure)
- Ask your friend to take a photograph and compare
- Compare with your friend how many application he can get with Iphone?
- Try to utilize your GPS speed
- To me, HD is for high class man and Iphone is for women
- Moreover, Iphone has exclusive Multi-touch right? But you can zoom by double touch . Ask your friend how inconvenience in terms of exchanging files ( connect to cable, go to Iphone center.) How convenience when you have a bluetooth
How can you fight for HTC when you dont know what are the strengths of its??!!
Anyone know of an WM6.5.3 ROM development for the Tattoo?
Its not even rooted properly yet, and thus no custom roms at all...
Btw why would you wanna use WM?
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Anyone know of an WM6.5.3 ROM development for the Tattoo?
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Are you sure you're in the right forum ?
Why WM ? WHY!!??
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Are you sure you're in the right forum ?
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jejeej if it has not been achieved in this forum, I think that is not achieved in either ... I think the confusion is not a forum, could be the phone
Windows Mobile can't be ported on the Tattoo. And that's that. End of story.
Don't see why not.
WM on the Tattoo: The sequel..
Its an HTC device and uses mostly the same components as other models.
Porting isn't really what is needed here. Just need to get it to run.
That goes vice versa.
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Ah, you are an Mac user. Then this will be hard
my 2 cents:
If you wanted WM, you should had bought a Touch2.
That's the WM Tattoo cousin, with same specs and all...
Cheers
Why make windows 95/3.11 run on an mobile?
Why make Android run on other htc devices?
Why make linux run on other htc devices?
Why make WM run on the Tattoo?
Comm'n guy's don't be so reluctant, we are developers here.
i have seen on endgadget or gizmodo(i dont remembeer) few days a go a kirf of htc tatto running win mo 6.5.3
btw the specs of this litlle monster were not the same as the tattoo
here is the link
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/21/keepin-it-real-fake-part-ccliv-htc-tattoo-joins-the-winmo-gan/
cheers
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i have seen on endgadget or gizmodo(i dont remembeer) few days a go a kirf of htc tatto running win mo 6.5.3
btw the specs of this litlle monster were not the same as the tattoo
here is the link
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/21/keepin-it-real-fake-part-ccliv-htc-tattoo-joins-the-winmo-gan/
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:lol: That's awesome!
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Don't see why not.
WM on the Tattoo: The sequel..
Its an HTC device and uses mostly the same components as other models.
Porting isn't really what is needed here. Just need to get it to run.
That goes vice versa.
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wm on tattoo == a step backwards in technological advancement
that would be about the worthless thing that could happen to the tattoo
What technological advancement are you referring to..?
If you are referring to the fact that Android is Google,
then please enlighten us what so great that we need to
spare the Tattoo from Windows Mobile..
Developers are indiscriminate when it come to brand.
I have these devices because I love the hardware and we can
do stuff with it. We can develop, experiment, tool them and if done
right, make money on them.
Admire htc for developing these devices for us, not Google, MS or Apple.
Serioulsy, what the **** ?
You have an Open-source firmware on your phone, and you want to remplace it with a closed-source ?
You've a firmware totally independent of any firm, or society, and you want to remplace it with a totally-dependent-of-microsoft-firmware ?
You are root on your phone, and you want to change for a phone on wich you are just a user ?
Seriously !
I think I understand what ebsbow is trying to explain to us. IMO, as long as it is for development purpose only, then I can agree. But I don't feel that WM can be fully implemented on the Tattoo, and don't think it'll be suitable for day-to-day use.
I think ebsbow got a point here. This is a dev site, not a fanboy site which support the back of a specific os just because it is better (according to some). If there is a way to implement windows mobile on the tattoo, then why not? Where is the harm in that? You dont like it, then dont use it. Itll be just a break through.
If you happen to hate a specific os, it is just a personal opinion. Just hold back from clicking on the forum. Xda dev is about development, not about refraining development just because some dont like the direction in which it is pointing.
But for now I think that porting windows mobile to the tattoo is far away. We are still in a very undeveloped stage of getting root. And also, thanks to all the devs who invested their spare time in this, a huge work has been done. Lets just hope that we soon get a stable state of root which doesnt get lost on reboot and that give us true root capabilities.
I don't think the stock Tattoo having root has anything to do with installing a new OS. Then again, I ain't a developer, and I don't know **** about developing WM for an officially unsupported device.
Of course mate. I just meant that the devs have their plate full right now
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Of course mate. I just meant that the devs have their plate full right now
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Okay, I'll release my windows mobile curse and admit that I do have some thoughts into Windows Mobile on the tattoo:
To be honest, Windows Mobile could be ported to the Tattoo/Click. WM could live on a SD Card, and the bootloader (HardSPL?) bootstraps the code from the SDCard to boot the WM environment or have a boot menu saying "Press Left to boot Android 1.6/2.x or right to boot Windows Mobile 5/6/7"
However, you'll face these problems:
1. Driver Support, you'd have to hack WM extensively to get support for phone and related components unless the drivers could be ported from the Touch/Touch2.
2. Not a native WM device. This could lead to Windows Mobile crying it's eyes out when the device crashes. "Mummy, I want my device rebooted". (lol bad joke, but hey )
3. Apps. Would they support the Tattoo's screen res? Parts could be missing off the screen and whatnot.
4. SD Card wear and tear. Could WM burn that MicroSD card up if you use it extensively? Windows can really tear up a SSD HDD if you abuse it, but a MicroSD has a tiny chip that runs the show.
5. Who's gonna support you when your WM/Android hybrid phone blows up and you need a replacement, and HTC rejects it due to "unsupported mods"?
Anyway, that's my few cents. I hope this helps you WM fangirls/fanboys.
Here is some progression on the htc Niki::
[23 FEB] Android Eclair 2.1 for HTC Niki - Work still in progress:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637586
[APP][04FEB10]Gen.Y DualBOOT v1.0.5.0[W|Q|VGA][CAB|EXT]:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623792
[18 FEB] New Android on HTC Touch-Dual *NIKI* --UPDATED
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634572
I just heard about this great new: WP7 can be cracked to run on old HTC (OS WM6). Is this possible to have this capability on our X1? Someone has any new?
where did you read that ? WP7's min system requirements are above the X1 specs
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where did you read that ? WP7's min system requirements are above the X1 specs
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Very true not only the X1 but pretty much all of the WM devices, I've heard the HD2 running it but that is probably the only WM that can do it. @ usylsse84 but most importantly why waste your X1 with a locked down OS that's missing alot basic smartphone features you are defiantly not gaining anything by putting WP7 in your X1? And that 12 year old made looking square interface is retarded, I would be sick of looking at that interface after a week of using it and not having the option to change it lol GTFO. If you want WP7 then buy a WP7 phone it's that simple.
On second thoughts..I dont think it would run as smooth as the 1GHZ processor...
I know you guys have talked about this already, but has anyone tried to load it? Maybe a derivitive of the HD2 rom for WP7? I bet anything that it would work, it would just be a little slower.....please give some feedback for this thread
i agree the tp2 deserves a try they said we couldn't overclock now look @ us
P.S also make a CDMA version for us sprint people
I'm sure someone could get it running. Nothing is impossible.
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I'm sure someone could get it running. Nothing is impossible.
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+1 to that.
The problem is the processor architecture...
WP7 on TP2
I bet that it wouldn't matter, they say the requirements are what they are, but they can operate on lower specs, just won't operate at optimum efficiency. If the HD2 and WP7 Phones are at 1ghz, its not bad that we are at 748mhz+. I bet it will work!!! I know technical aspects, but it sucks I don't know how to actually do any of it!!!! Maybe someone should come up with a bounty
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I bet that it wouldn't matter, they say the requirements are what they are, but they can operate on lower specs, just won't operate at optimum efficiency. If the HD2 and WP7 Phones are at 1ghz, its not bad that we are at 748mhz+. I bet it will work!!! I know technical aspects, but it sucks I don't know how to actually do any of it!!!! Maybe someone should come up with a bounty
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Whatever, TP2 runs a Qualcomm processor ARMv6, while Snapdragon is ARMv7.
WP7 requires ARMv7.
It's not as easy as you think, guys.
can we get it
maybe lescro could chime in
No, we can NOT get WP7 ever. It's just not possible. As Jackos said, WP7 is built on ARMv7. The TP2 has an ARMv6 chipset. The ARMv6 CPU just can't execute the code in WP7. It has nothing to due with the speed of the CPU. Just like how certain Adobe software doesn't work on old AMD/Intel CPU's because they're missing the SSE2 instruction set.
EDIT: This has been stated by Da_G many times & trust me, he knows what he's talking about. Follow Da_G on Twitter.
Mod, please close this thread.
It is possible but very difficult to do. Some has to make it ARMv6 able.
WP7 on TP2
Like others said, it was impossible to OC our TP2's, and now look!!! You're right, the WP7 on an ARMv6 core would be difficult to do, but someone can do it! It's kind depressing that everyone keeps saying "never" will we have it on the TP2. If you can create a theme from throttlelauncher that does just about everything that the WP7 itself can do, I would wager that you could modify the WP7 rom to execute off of the ARMv6 core....problem is nobody wants to spend the time to do so for free, so we should come up with a bounty.
Actually when these devs tell you that the code can not run they aren't explaining (rightfully because it might fall on deaf ears) that windows ce is closed source so changing anything would require a large amount of work if the kernel can be changed at all. Its not like the linux kernel where we can go in and change things in the source code then compile. WP7 is what it is its like saying that windows 7 can run on an arm processor yeah it probably could but you would have to change the kernel which i believe only microsoft has the ability to do. Just tough it out like the rest of us until your upgrade date. Please no more WP7 on TP2 threads
is this really a question? FIRST of all, it is impossible. Second of all, there are various themes that would be more stable than any wm7 port if there was ever a dev who had some magical touch. yeah, we can overclock. but who here can safely oc to 1g? closest i get is 768. and that gets touchy.
believe me, theres no way/reason to do this. just buy a new phone
WP7 on TP2
My only problem, which is quite a personal problem, is that I am not allowed to have a camera on my phone where I work.....so this blows because they will not make any more cameraless phones. So anything to make my TP2 any better, I'm all game. Besides, I absolutely HATE on screen keyboards, no matter how accurate they are. Again, just a personal problem.
You're job will end up changing that rule. They have too, because cameraless cell are sadly a thing of the past. I don't know a single person who doesn't have a camera on their cell. As for the hardware KB, check out the HTC 7 Pro. It's a 1Ghz Snapdragon WP7 version of the TP2.
Somethings are impossible.... Overclocking is one thing but executing code compiled for a different CPU is NOT the same thing!
As others have pointed out, it's ARM v6 vs V7 and it's not a code issue - its a microcode issue - the v6 does not have the same instruction set so the code cannot execute.
Short of M$ recompiling the code (not very likely), releasing the source (even less likely) or writing a V6 interpreting shell (can you say SLOW) it ain't going to happen.
Deal with it and wait till your contract is over and get a new phone when you can
drkfngthdragnlrd said:
You're job will end up changing that rule. They have too, because cameraless cell are sadly a thing of the past. I don't know a single person who doesn't have a camera on their cell. As for the hardware KB, check out the HTC 7 Pro. It's a 1Ghz Snapdragon WP7 version of the TP2.
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No, I am 100% Certain my work will not change that rule. They will prohibit cell phones altogether before allowing a camera. But I will check out the HTC 7 pro
if you go to wp7 forum theres alot of problems with that phone
...like any phone
but there are alot of themes for our phone
like lesscrco wp7
BTW. Why would anyone need WP7 on TP2? Imho it's good enough with WM6.5.
WP7 would only decrease the functionality and cause problems like battery life or performance.
Emulator
Emulation is possible, ask the people who wrote BOCHS or Pear PC.
However, it's absolutely not practical to go down this route. It would require an amazing amount of work for what would be a very slow WP7 device with no battery life.
The time and money spent on a project like this would be better put to improving WM6 or Android.
1milenia said:
if you go to wp7 forum theres alot of problems with that phone
...like any phone
but there are alot of themes for our phone
like lesscrco wp7
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I bought my wife the Samsung Focus and we have absolutely no problems with it. WP7 is perfect just left stock. WP7 is probably the best PPC OS out there now.