still getting charged for messaging with handcent? - Fascinate Themes and Apps

so i downloaded "Handcent" text messaging and it works fine... other then getting double notification i had a question:::::
since i get double notification it obviously means the Stock SMS still gets text messages from people i send messages to from handcent... do i get charged towards my texting plan on the stock sms? or not?.... if i am, would a solution be to rename the stock sms file with .old in the end of it so its gone? will i still get charged towards my plan?

Handcent uses the same SMS system app so there's no extra charge for texting via it.
To solve the double notification, just go open the default messaging app, hit menu -> settings -> uncheck Notifications.
Now you should only get notifications via Handcent.

NKT said:
Handcent uses the same SMS system app so there's no extra charge for texting via it.
To solve the double notification, just go open the default messaging app, hit menu -> settings -> uncheck Notifications.
Now you should only get notifications via Handcent.
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my concern is that im still getting messages to my stock sms... doesnt matter?
im not getting cahrged?

Frenzifun said:
my concern is that im still getting messages to my stock sms... doesnt matter?
im not getting cahrged?
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Technically, yes. The stock sms program still gets the texts. But all it really is doing is accessing the same system SMS program as Handcent.
They're both just front ends for interacting with the SMS program.
You don't get charged "extra" for using Handcent versus the stock messaging app.
I've been using Handcent from day one and there's no extra charge and all my messages show up in both apps. I just never open the stock app.

Handcent doesn't bypass SMS charges by using data. It's just another app that does what the stock SMS app does, just a bit more prettily.
For free SMS you need Google Voice. But note you have to use the Google Voice phone number as inbound/outbound. Also, there's no api for sending messages through Google Voice so you can't use any frontend app besides Voice itself.
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s44 said:
Handcent doesn't bypass SMS charges by using data. It's just another app that does what the stock SMS app does, just a bit more prettily.
For free SMS you need Google Voice. But note you have to use the Google Voice phone number as inbound/outbound. Also, there's no api for sending messages through Google Voice so you can't use any frontend app besides Voice itself.
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thereee is my answer, awesome, thank you... so its still used as one of my text messages on my 500 plan.
so in that case theres no point in it for me...
now how do i do this google voice thing... i have an account with google voice with my gmail account... how does this free texting take place?

Frenzifun said:
thereee is my answer, awesome, thank you... so its still used as one of my text messages on my 500 plan.
so in that case theres no point in it for me...
now how do i do this google voice thing... i have an account with google voice with my gmail account... how does this free texting take place?
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Ahhh, I see now. Yes, any texting from your phone's number is charged to your texting plan.
To use SMS through Google Voice, just give people your GV number and have them use that to text you. It will not be charged to your plan text bucket.

First install the GV app if you haven't...
Then, as the previous guy said, just have people text the GV number. For outbound texts you can either fire up the GV app and select "Compose" from the menu/respond to a text someone's already sent your GV, or go to Contacts and use "Send Message" for a contact (the first time you do this the app choice menu should pop up -- you can set GV as the default for future uses).

Make sure Google Voice isn't set to forward the text messages from your Google Voice number to your cell phone number or you will be charged for the text sent from Google Voice to your Cell number.

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Texting that uses the data plan?

Is there an texting app that uses the data plan instead of text plan? I currently only have 200 txts per month and don't want to go over it. I believe iPhone has that type of app and hopefully Android would have one too.
i believe google voice does this
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i believe google voice does this
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Can confirm from personal experience -- just make sure you turn off SMS alerts in GV settings. In other words, the app on your phone checks for SMS but GV doesn't send a real SMS to your phone.
I don't know if this is still true, but almost every carrier allows txtx from emails.
Example everyone on att has an email address that it [email protected]
If you email them at this address (it will use your data plan), and they will receive it as a txt.
Not sure if ATT changed this you might want to verify that this will go over data.
Bjd223 said:
I don't know if this is still true, but almost every carrier allows txtx from emails.
Example everyone on att has an email address that it [email protected]
If you email them at this address (it will use your data plan), and they will receive it as a txt.
Not sure if ATT changed this you might want to verify that this will go over data.
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That does work, but if that person receives your txt and replies back, I think it comes back to your phone as a SMS. So you still use one SMS.
Try Google Voice. You can send SMS from it and when they reply back it goes to your Google Voice number in lieu of your real cell phone number. That way it comes in to the Google Voice app. But just as someone else recommended, make sure you turn off SMS notifications, otherwise every time you get a voicemail or txt message google will send you an SMS message to notify you.
or use google talk, its quicker, and they have a BB/Android/iOS client... AND its already installed on your phone.
I just tried TALK last night, and I have Google Voice. I can get messages, but and reply to them.
But I can't figure out how to send a text to someone in my address book whom I have not received a text from yet. The only people who show up in the contacts list for TALK are people who have Google IM set up in email, and that is very few.
Any tips?
ewingr said:
I just tried TALK last night, and I have Google Voice. I can get messages, but and reply to them.
But I can't figure out how to send a text to someone in my address book whom I have not received a text from yet. The only people who show up in the contacts list for TALK are people who have Google IM set up in email, and that is very few.
Any tips?
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When I go into my regular contact list and tap Send Message I get the option to choose Messaging, Handcent or Google Voice to send the message with. What happens if you just tap send message on a contact?
Edit: Oh you said Google Talk. I didn't know you could send text messages using talk. Nevermind then! But you can use Google Voice. Additionally you can set Google Voice notification to e-mail instead of SMS so you'll be e-mailed when you get a new SMS.
That is interesting. It does NOT come up and ask me how to send it. It just tries to send it.
Now, here is something maybe: I did not ever see any insructions that I need to install Google Voice on my phone. I just now went to the market and searched for it, and am installing right now. (Google seems to me to be horrible about providing documentation/instructions).
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Ok, it is installed. I just went to contacts, selected send message, and it is the same.
Another thing...I have seen demos that if you swipe a contact to the left it goes into message, and to the right it calls. It calls no matter how I swipe.
Another note: I do not have SMS messaging with AT&T, and in fact I have it turned off, because I don't want people sending me SMS that I get billed for. I wonder if that could have anything to do with this.
By the way, I had been told I needed Google Talk to get the TEXTs that others send me. But...that was when I was on a WinMo phone. Maybe I don't need Google Talk. Maybe I just need to figure out how to get Google Voice working on this phone. Alathough I will say that the text message I did get from a friend I'm trying to test with came in via Google Talk.
Got it working. The install of voice on my phone helped
brandonb81 said:
When I go into my regular contact list and tap Send Message I get the option to choose Messaging, Handcent or Google Voice to send the message with. What happens if you just tap send message on a contact?
Edit: Oh you said Google Talk. I didn't know you could send text messages using talk. Nevermind then! But you can use Google Voice. Additionally you can set Google Voice notification to e-mail instead of SMS so you'll be e-mailed when you get a new SMS.
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I'm pretty sure Google Talk is more like a chat IM service than a text messaging service. The person you are wanting to chat with has to have the client installed on their phone as well.
I think Google Voice is the best option for free text messages. You can get a free new phone number, then you just open Google Voice and text away. Anybody who replies to your SMS, their txt will come into Google Voice for free. You can send and receive free text messages all day long.
Not paying AT&T for a texting plan is definitely going to be nice! Thanks for the info.
derek4484 said:
That does work, but if that person receives your txt and replies back, I think it comes back to your phone as a SMS. So you still use one SMS.
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It will come back to you as an e-mail if you send it that way. I've texted my mom a few times this way and the reply shows up as an e-mail.
Google voice is open now. You'll have a new #, but free texts over data. Very good push integration too.
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Yep Google talk is the way to go!
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derek4484 said:
That does work, but if that person receives your txt and replies back, I think it comes back to your phone as a SMS. So you still use one SMS.
Try Google Voice. You can send SMS from it and when they reply back it goes to your Google Voice number in lieu of your real cell phone number. That way it comes in to the Google Voice app. But just as someone else recommended, make sure you turn off SMS notifications, otherwise every time you get a voicemail or txt message google will send you an SMS message to notify you.
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Email method works. When the person replies, it would come to email, not as text... I used this method over an year, before I switched to google voice recently.
Ping chat works great
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texting app

Is there a app that allows me to text over data? I realized that I only have 500 texts, and have been talking to a friend alot.
is there an app that lets me text without using the verizon texts?
Google voice
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thats what i thought at first, but using the 'my verizon app' it shows that it's still going up. and thats all i have been using.
atleast i think it was.
My gv texts don't accumulate my plan's messages and neither does my wife's. If they counted, we'd be in debt with over-texting. Are you getting text notifications that you've received a gv text? If so, turn those off.
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zwade01 said:
My gv texts don't accumulate my plan's messages and neither does my wife's. If they counted, we'd be in debt with over-texting. Are you getting text notifications that you've received a gv text? If so, turn those off.
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i'm getting the notification on the bar, but thats it.
my gv doesn't use my texts unless i set it to get text notifications of the texts
Test it again, and look at your # of texts.
I 100% promise, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that it doesn't add to your texting.
It even goes over 3g, it doesn't go over your voice/text frequency. It's just like sending an email. It's entirely different than a normal text.
Google voice is great.
After phone calls, once in a while, it takes a bit for texts and voice mails to come on.
If you make a real short phone call or get one in, sometimes Google Voice doesn't 'check back in' with the server to see if any texts/voicemails came in during your call.
When you make a longer call, it knows to check on itself, but sometimes if you have a short phone call and someone texts your Google Voice, it doesn't pick up right after your call (unless you open the app).
Again, it's because it's a 'push' notification instead of 'checking in' every x amount of time. In other words, if your 3g isn't on, it doesn't push to your phone. So the app has to 'refresh' and look back on the server.
Neither here nor there. It's 100% reliable and uses 0 texts from your carrier's plan. I promise.
Google Voice all the way! It definitely doesn't add to the text count (as long as you turn off the text notifications in the Google Voice settings). I switched to it because for some reason I can't receive texts reliably anymore >.<
search "textplus" in the market. Its not too bad of an app. It uses data to send texts
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forward text to gtab

Would it be possible to forward text messages to the gtab from my phone. Also would like to respond with my grab. Not sure how this would be done but it would be cool. Could be done through Bluetooth or just a good internet connection.
jonagpa said:
Would it be possible to forward text messages to the gtab from my phone. Also would like to respond with my grab. Not sure how this would be done but it would be cool. Could be done through Bluetooth or just a good internet connection.
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Google Voice is what I use. Works good.
How do you use text on google voice..
and how does it appear on the device?
shdwknt said:
How do you use text on google voice..
and how does it appear on the device?
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You load the Google voice app from the market. You need to setup a Google voice account also. You enter the phone numbers you want to associate with it. It will also give you a Google phone number. Then you setup Google voice on your device and when it asks for the phone number use one that is associated with your google voice account. People use the google voice phone number to send you texts. And when you send them they show on peoples devices as coming from your Google number. I just had my daughters add my Google number to my contact info in there phones. The last part in the setup about voicemail you can just skip. Only going to send texts from your tablet..
It appears as a big inbox. You get notifications in the top bar when someone sends you something. You can also reply from Gmail. I have an SMS folder I setup in Gmail that I can reply from also.
Sorry to revive an old thread but is there any way to forward incoming sms messages from your cell number (not GV number) to your GV account so you can read them on the Gtab? I don't want all my contacts to have to change the number they send texts to for me. I tried to set it up but none of the sms messages were forwarded to my GV account. I think they are probably in an infinite loop in cyberspace!
debh945 said:
Sorry to revive an old thread but is there any way to forward incoming sms messages from your cell number (not GV number) to your GV account so you can read them on the Gtab? I don't want all my contacts to have to change the number they send texts to for me. I tried to set it up but none of the sms messages were forwarded to my GV account. I think they are probably in an infinite loop in cyberspace!
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Google just made number porting available. See here: http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2011/01/google-voice-number-porting.html
wordweaver27 said:
Google just made number porting available. See here: http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2011/01/google-voice-number-porting.html
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I saw that last week but also saw my carrier will charge an ETF if I port my number over to GV. I'm not going to pay $200 just to read my text messages on my Gtab. It was just more of a convenience question as the screen is larger.
What I did and it worked for a couple of hours was create another GMail Account and downloaded an app from the market that forwarded my SMS messages to the Gmail account. It worked until Android killed it. I restarted the app and then I didn't receive any more text messages on my phone or in the Gmail account. I uninstalled the app, restarted the phone, and about 30 SMS messages all came through at once.
In theory this works if you can find a decent SMS forwarding app that can run in the background without being zapped and doesn't screw up your messaging app. I only tried one but may try others tomorrow.
may want to look for "sms forwarder" in the android market. not sure if that does what you want but it sounds like it does.
dragonfly1113 said:
may want to look for "sms forwarder" in the android market. not sure if that does what you want but it sounds like it does.
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Yeah, that's the exact one I used and it was hit or miss. I haven't tried any of the paid apps to see if I get better results.

[Q] Google Voice, LG Revo & Verizon Wireless [Texting Q's]

I have activated GV on my Revo (using the Number provided by GV) and I am experiencing an issue I have never encountered with other android devices on other carriers.
When I send a text using the stock messaging app the message caller id to the recipient displays my actual cel # (not my GV number) (either in the stock ROM or gingervolt 1.3). If I receive a text with a person using my GV # it will go in both the GV app by google and the stock messaging app - if I reply to that message it WILL use my GV number (even from the stock messaging app). So only if I originate a text from the stock messaging app the my number shows up to the recipient as my cel# (not GV #)
My questions are these:
Is this how Google Voice works on the verizon wireless network?
Or is there something wrong with my setup?
I have been very thorough and have been able to get this functioning properly with carriers like Sprint and T-Mo using Android and non android devices.
Thanks in advance for any assistance the community can provide.
-Matt
Pretty sure you can only send text from the google voice app. In settings choosing Use Voice To Make All Calls from this phone only refers to voice calls. Unless I am missing the setting also but been through it several times. I know Verizon blocked the voicemail feature
EDIT: Actually try Handcent sms.. just sent txt to my gvoice # and received it on both handcent and Gvoice..
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drt054 said:
Pretty sure you can only send text from the google voice app. In settings choosing Use Voice To Make All Calls from this phone only refers to voice calls. Unless I am missing the setting also but been through it several times. I know Verizon blocked the voicemail feature
EDIT: Actually try Handcent sms.. just sent txt to my gvoice # and received it on both handcent and Gvoice..
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I'm only talking about texting. I have the same problem with Handcent as well. The only time I can originate a text message where my gv # will show to the recipient is from google's gv app.
Nevermind.. you want all txts to come from your gvoice#, right?
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Right by using the stock messaging app (like I have done many times before with other devices on other carriers).
If you send a text from handcent or the stock messaging app (not the google voice app) does it show as your GV# to other people even if you originate the text?
-Matt
I sent a txt msg to my personal email and a buddy and it came from my vzw#..
I sent a txt msg to my GV# from handcent and said sender was my GV#. From GV app sent a txt to my vzw#, replied to it from handcent and checked message details and it was sent from my gvoice#
IMO Verizon blocked sending txts from anything but your vzw# because if everybody would do it then and would never have to pay vzw for texting again. But can't explain why you can reply to a GV# and it will come from your GV#..
drt054 said:
I sent a txt msg to my personal email and a buddy and it came from my vzw#..
I sent a txt msg to my GV# from handcent and said sender was my GV#. From GV app sent a txt to my vzw#, replied to it from handcent and checked message details and it was sent from my gvoice#
IMO Verizon blocked sending txts from anything but your vzw# because if everybody would do it then and would never have to pay vzw for texting again. But can't explain why you can reply to a GV# and it will come from your GV#..
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Hmm.... That is what I thought it is on Verizon's end. Thanks for confirming this.

Google Voice Question.

I put my sprint number as my Google voice number. Does the stock messaging app still work? Should I disable it and use Google Voice? What about making calls from the Google Voice icon? Is that possible or do I need to use the normal phone icon?
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I'm a Sprint Product Ambassador supporting the launch of the One.
The stock messaging app will reflect what is in your GV inbox. I recommend using the GV app itself wherever possible for the bext experience.
I don't see a dialer in the GV icon, I use GV to make all calls and just use the native dialer.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
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I'm a Sprint Product Ambassador supporting the launch of the One.
The stock messaging app will reflect what is in your GV inbox. I recommend using the GV app itself wherever possible for the bext experience.
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This couldn't be further from the truth. I don't know of any advantage to use the GV app on a sprint phone (save for going through old texts that may be gone from phone). The beauty of Sprint and Google Voice is the fact that you can use all the native apps without having to deal with the GV app at all.
Having to wait for the google voice app to load the data from your google voice account via Sprint's data connection is just not efficient. Which also means its not even possible to send a text through the google voice app(or load it) without a data connection. Texts can be sent with no mobile data turned on.
Just setup the Sprint/Google Voice integration in settings at google.com/voice.
To each his own!
daviss said:
This couldn't be further from the truth. I don't know of any advantage to use the GV app on a sprint phone (save for going through old texts that may be gone from phone). The beauty of Sprint and Google Voice is the fact that you can use all the native apps without having to deal with the GV app at all.
Having to wait for the google voice app to load the data from your google voice account via Sprint's data connection is just not efficient. Which also means its not even possible to send a text through the google voice app(or load it) without a data connection. Texts can be sent with no mobile data turned on.
Just setup the Sprint/Google Voice integration in settings at google.com/voice.
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I never said it was a requirement. I use GV across multiple devices and have better luck with the GV app for messaging than the native app. You'll have to find out what works best for you.
mattvalenz said:
I never said it was a requirement. I use GV across multiple devices and have better luck with the GV app for messaging than the native app. You'll have to find out what works best for you.
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Advantage to using the GV App: Messaging sync'd across multiple devices/screens. Easy to read conversations on your home PC, etc.
Advantage to using the stock messaging app: The ability to read/write MMS. These aren't directly supported by GV last I looked.
jskup said:
Advantage to using the GV App: Messaging sync'd across multiple devices/screens. Easy to read conversations on your home PC, etc.
Advantage to using the stock messaging app: The ability to read/write MMS. These aren't directly supported by GV last I looked.
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The OP's question was whether the stock messaging client worked and if he should disable it to use google voice. Not whether he could sync his google voice messages across devices and how it looked on his computer.
Using the stock messaging app to send through google voice doesn't change how it looks on his PC and whether his messages sent via stock app show up on his PC. They will always show up through the google voice app or google voice website.
I do agree though there are advantages to both. I use both apps for different purposes. I just find the GUI and notifications of the stock app(and GoSMS popups) to be far more informative than having to load up a program that has to connect to the internet and load before I can read or send a message. To each their own.
daviss said:
Using the stock messaging app to send through google voice doesn't change how it looks on his PC and whether his messages sent via stock app show up on his PC. They will always show up through the google voice app or google voice website.
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My experience was different when using my Epic 4G Touch. Messages that I sent using the stock app there were not sync'd across my google voice account. Only the received messages were shown everywhere. If that experience is different on other devices or I set it up improperly, I apologize. I also can't speak towards any experience with the GoSMS app.
If you initiaite an SMS session first from the GV app and you get a reply (assuming you have it in GV Settings to also receive messages to stock Messaging app), any messages you send and receive henceforth from the stock Messaging app will show up (synced) in the GV app.
I do this all the time. Why? Because the GV app is slow to refresh most times, Sprint's 3G speeds are not that great where i am so i am usually waiting for GV to refresh, and once i've gotten a reply i'm just using regular SMS really over the 1x network and still everything gets synced to my GV account.

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