I've searched the HD2 accessories forum and found some inklings of the question I'm asking, but none that quite hit at the heart of the matter. So, my question is this:
Does the HD2 (TMO US) send line audio out through the micro-USB port? I would assume it does, since the dock HTC sells for the HD2 has a 3.5mm jack in back, and it only plugs into the phone via micro-USB.
And my follow-on question would be, if the HD2 does indeed have line audio in the micro-USB port, does anyone know of an actual splitter accessory that splits out line audio and USB charging? I saw this device at AndroidCentral.com's store (sorry, my new account doesn't allow external links) (htc-3-in-1-usb-adapter/5A18A3571.htm) in another thread. But since it's mini-USB and HTC claims it only works for the phones specified, does that mean a gender changer (Daydeal.com, Product ID 31355) wouldn't work with it? Thanks for any info/experiences you folks have!
No one has any info for me?
I browsed around to see if i found anything on this also but i don't think it's possible since it's not a A/V port of any sort. as far as your second Q: The splitter would only be that; something to add additional port's on the device. ie: Since it's connected thru the Micro-sub and the splitter has a mini(assuming)-usb port, it can therefore be charged, Also add's an extra audio jack. (just examples)
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Thanks for the response. It may be that the HD2 by itself may not have line audio or any video out signal tied to the micro-USB port, but just the fact that that splitter exists for earlier HTC phones' mini-USB ports gives me hope that the line audio pin out is there. I mean, I'm not an electronics wiz by any stretch, but I think mini and micro USB only require 2 pins for power, right? And there's at least 4 pins there on a micro port.
The older HTC phones used the mini-USB compatible extUSB interface-where the top portion of the connector did the duty as the USB interface and the bottom portion of the connector was the audio interface. Between everyone hating to have a dongle to the emergence of microUSB as the industry standard put extUSB on the road to extinction.
ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extusb#Proprietary_connectors_and_formats
Thanks for that. Makes sense, since they decided (for some stupid reason) to not add a 3.5 mm headphone jack to those phones. But what doesn't make sense is how they can give these newer phones great hardware, and tout their multimedia capabilities, and yet not add a functionality that Apple has had built in since their first iPhone. That's the main reason I still use it: because I don't want to carry two devices around.
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I received a Wing from T-Mobile yesterday and the device shipped with standard USB Mini connector (for sync/power) (rectangle with flared bottom) and a wall charger with the same typical mini USB connector. However, the connector on the phone is a similar rectangle shape, but has one diagonal corner, otherwise a perfect rectangle (while also some sort of mini USB connector, this connector is capable of handling audio in addition to sync and power...) It is the same jack that the headphones/mic fit into
In order to make this work, HTC packaged a small 1x1 node with a pigtail to convert the traditional flared mini USB connector to the new format connector.
Does anyone know where such a part might be able to be purchased? Or what the "name" of the connector is that I am describing? T-Mobile and HTC have both been rather useless and arrogant about the subject.
Thanks,
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I received a Wing from T-Mobile yesterday and the device shipped with standard USB Mini connector (for sync/power) (rectangle with flared bottom) and a wall charger with the same typical mini USB connector. However, the connector on the phone is a similar rectangle shape, but has one diagonal corner, otherwise a perfect rectangle (while also some sort of mini USB connector, this connector is capable of handling audio in addition to sync and power...) It is the same jack that the headphones/mic fit into
In order to make this work, HTC packaged a small 1x1 node with a pigtail to convert the traditional flared mini USB connector to the new format connector.
Does anyone know where such a part might be able to be purchased? Or what the "name" of the connector is that I am describing? T-Mobile and HTC have both been rather useless and arrogant about the subject.
Thanks,
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http://www.hot-wire-telekom.de/index.php?aktion=detail&suche=HTC TyTN&asuche=HW132471 - an audioadapter
http://www.hot-wire-telekom.de/index.php?aktion=detail&suche=HTC TyTN&asuche=HW132233
Don´t know exactly what you mean? I´m using several USB cables and they all work.
If you want an adapter to use two usb (charge AND headset) HTC himselfe has one. And if you want an usb --> 2,5mm there are several on ebay.
FYI ... the new HTC USB connector is actually a standard Mini-USB with extra pins for analog audio. If you were to take your standard USB cable and plus it into the phone, it should work. The only thing you need the adapter for is to use the headset, which is unfortunate. All the adapter does is split off the USB signal from the audio signal.
At least, this is how I understand it. My Wing won't be here until Tuesday.
In the USA, the Wing ships with a 2-way splitter. One plug is for USB POWER, and the other for headset. Err... I don't know which, if either, DATA would go over, it's mainly intended for use in the car when you want to have it plugged in but use the headset also!
I need to order a smaller audio-converter... something that can go inline with my headphones without looking/feeling/being stupid-big.
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In the USA, the Wing ships with a 2-way splitter. One plug is for USB POWER, and the other for headset. Err... I don't know which, if either, DATA would go over, it's mainly intended for use in the car when you want to have it plugged in but use the headset also!
I need to order a smaller audio-converter... something that can go inline with my headphones without looking/feeling/being stupid-big.
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I ordered a converted from usb to 2.5mm from igonemobile for use on my Dash and my Wing. It's about 4 inches long, not too big in my opinion.
So far so good. 10 bucks, shipping included.
http://www.igonemobile.com/products/html/56115310.html
Hi everyone, Ok like many others on here I want to connect my mogul to my car stereo. I picked up a 2.5mm(M) to 3.5mm(F) L adapter and figured I could use the HTC provided Y-adapter that has the 2.5mm(F). After trying the setup I noticed it only functioned if I left part of the L adapter sticking out (photo attached).
Which of course led me to believe it has something to do with the built in mic function on the HTC adapter. I then came on the forum and saw everyone having the same issue and recommeding bending pins on after market adapters especially if they are running custom roms (im on dcd 4.1.2).
I have attached a photo to show that I do get sound when I have the adapter partially pulled out. What I wanted to know if there was a way to modify the HTC wire in order to get that adapter to function correctly?
I saw that gator2k83 was nice enough to snap shots of the wires without the insert for the 2.5mm jack here.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=603916&postcount=8
It would be great if I could get a picture of what the inside of 2.5mm female socket looks like.
Still don't get why the L adapter doesn't work. Is HTC wiring there 2.5mm headset different then other manufacturers?
Wow so no one can comment on why or how to make this work?
Does anyone know why for example the semons adapter 2-in-1 needs to have its pin modified if you are using a newer rom?
No need to modify anything. You just need to pick up a different 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter that's made specifically for cellphones. I picked one up a while back at Radio Shack. I forget how much, but I don't think it was expensive. The main difference between the two adapters is that the cellphone one has three bands instead of two, one for the microphone part of the phone jack and the other two are for the L and R channels. Your adapter is only contacting the microphone and L channels which is why you are having this problem. Try the other adapter and you'll find it works great.
TGabriele thanks for the reply! So the cellphone specially made has 3 bands, ahhh now that makes sense. Thats why sticking it in partially makes it work because the 3rd band isn't making contact.
Cool I appreciate the reply
Hiya,
I understand that the USB socket on the X1 is slightly different than that of the Orbit 2...
...so I was very confused to see the following:
http://www.easydevices.co.uk/pp/Son..._3.5MM_STEREO_HANDSFREE_ADAPTER_WITH_MIC.html
Would the above accessory work, or are they selling something without actually knowing whether it would work?
If it DOES work, I'll be able to configure my CK7-W to charge/connect to my X1, which is what I want ultimately.
Hmm, I am almost certain it will not work. Not sure why they advitise it for the X1.
The X1 has a mini-usb charging port, but it does not have the extra tack-on pins that HTC's proprietary Ext-USB ports have. So, data and power can flow through the port, but audio and video can not be accessedd natively from the port.
Any workarounds for a voip app and microphone for a rooted book color?
the cool guys that know what they are doing are working on bluetooth, that seems to be the best bet to getting a microphone working with NC, cross your fingers!
what about a wired headset with a built in mic. does the nook have the connections to support this?
I think the two best options right now for voice applications are probably the Bluetooth and the slight possibility that the micro-USB port on the Nook seems to have quite a few extra pins on it, which may have left B&N open to a proprietary connector that would allow for additional device connectivity via the micro-USB port.
I've purchased a number of micro-USB adapters in order to plug various devices into the micro-USB port of the NC, with zero success (keyboards, USB headsets, mice, etc). Clearly that port isn't currently operating in that manner, and I'm sure there's a tech savy person that could drop in and give us a simple answer to why this is.
I was also curious about the headphone port possibly have mic capabilities, and was about to purchase a single post headset to test the theory, but then I took a (very unscientific) look at the headphones jack, and it would appear that there aren't enough ring connectors inside it to support an additional channel. Obviously the guys doing the tear-down would know far more about this than myself.
We'll see what turns up over the coming months.
Found this teardown post with spec list and it says that there is no mic input in the headphone jack. I know I read another teardown post which I cannot find that indicated the same thing. I agree that our best bet may be getting the bluetooth working.
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I've purchased a number of micro-USB adapters in order to plug various devices into the micro-USB port of the NC, with zero success (keyboards, USB headsets, mice, etc). Clearly that port isn't currently operating in that manner, and I'm sure there's a tech savy person that could drop in and give us a simple answer to why this is.
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Can you detail what sort of adapters you tried? Have you tried a gender changer (type a-a female-female) on the end of the nook cord attached to a keyboard?
Someone correct me if I am wrong but, in order for the usb to do something other than just charge and connect to the PC from the usb, you would have to activate USB host, which is not turned on in stock. Hence no of the fancy toys will work. There are a lot of funky pins on the connector so it may have to be some funky adapter, assuming you get usb host running. There are a lot of hackery potential, but until that project is completed, the wait for bluetooth continues.
Go Occip! (the guy hacking the bluetooth.)
Mike
This is what I've been thinking about. I don't have the ability to figure out how to activate the USB Host function, but I read several posts about how it worked on N1, D1, and Hero.
The thing I want to try is using a micro USB to 3.5mm minijack cable like those that came with the G1. It's the only thing I could think of that could logically be supported by the default system since it was necessary in 1.5 on that device.
I don't think anyone is using VOIP yet, but you may be very interested in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989637
I'm running the CM7 image via SD card from that thread, and the Bluetooth works, and I can connect to my phone and my headset. Several people can connect to their standalone GPS units. Worth watching.
Anyone know if the micro USB port is even powered?
On a lot of phones, the USB connectors aren't powered by the device (like my HD2), so you have to hack together a proper setup that supplies power.
Operating system:Android™ 10
Chipset:Amlogic S905X3
CPU:Quad-Core Cortex-A55
GPU:ARM Mali-G31 MP2
SDRAM DDR3: 2 GB
FlasheMMC: 8 GB
But the device has Built in Ethernet (100mb), Type A USB 3.0 Port and Type C USB (Phone charging).
Having all the ports built in means we don't need to buy adapters / otg cables.
This is the first review I have seen:
Its big and ugly, and what the friggin 1992 is with that remote control? Looks like the USB-C port is only a 2.0, which is pointless. The official specs say it has a separate barrel jack for power -- not the USB-C port.
Also note that "OTG" doesn't apply to USB-C. The concept of "OTG" refers to the BACKWARDS use of a socket meant for a peripheral (mini- or micro-A), but USB-C is a genuine dual-purpose socket.
To be honest, the ability to plug stuff into it really isn't that critically important. I do see lots of people worried about adding USB storage to it, but that seems to be a pretty weak purpose since being a network connected device, you are free to add unlimited storage via the network, which is much more useful since that would be accessible to ALL of your equipment and not just the one its plugged directly into. For the most part, the USB port is good for an ethernet adapter, and google sells a nice one with a power adapter. The only other useful peripheral I can think of is maybe a video camera, but only if you need to use your TV for video conferencing, which yes, is a useful purpose.
But.... Nokia? Isnt that just one of the old dead names from the last century like "blackberry" that is now run by some unpronouncable arm of the people's republic of china? Consequently, I wouldn't trust a box with that name on it any more than pick-a-random-tv-box-from-aliexpress.
The only thing nice I see, is that its apparently got the "old" android tv launcher, and not the "wtf were they thinking?" one.
You are correct about the type-C port.... its just for charging only !