I've got a question for everyone who has the CU-S400 carkit or the CC-C200 car charger...
Does the CC-C200 charger (which is also supplied within the CU-S400) activate NaviPanel?
Or will this only happen with the car holder?
I just like to know, because why should I buy another CU-S400 for in my second car, when I could use my universal holder + the CC-C200 (it saves me some $$ for my speeding tickets )
I hope someone can help me out
Grtz,
Degake
degake said:
I've got a question for everyone who has the CU-S400 carkit or the CC-C200 car charger...
Does the CC-C200 charger (which is also supplied within the CU-S400) activate NaviPanel?
Or will this only happen with the car holder?
I just like to know, because why should I buy another CU-S400 for in my second car, when I could use my universal holder + the CC-C200 (it saves me some $$ for my speeding tickets )
I hope someone can help me out
Grtz,
Degake
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The actutal car kit activates the Navi Panel, not the charger. If you look closely at regular micro usb charger tips, on the inside, its like 4 little slots, but on the charger itself, the micro usb that actually connects to the HD2 has 5, which tells the HD2 that it has been docked, therfore launching the NaviPanel.
PS... the long usb cord that comes in the navigation kit is a standard usb cord, nothing special about it at all. The magic is all in the dock's USB.
Hope that helps.
Bigcountryed said:
The actutal car kit activates the Navi Panel, not the charger. If you look closely at regular micro usb charger tips, on the inside, its like 4 little slots, but on the charger itself, the micro usb that actually connects to the HD2 has 5, which tells the HD2 that it has been docked, therfore launching the NaviPanel.
PS... the long usb cord that comes in the navigation kit is a standard usb cord, nothing special about it at all. The magic is all in the dock's USB.
Hope that helps.
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Yes, it's all I needed to know
And it's the answer I thought it would be...
Thx for the fast response
Grtz,
Degake
Something you might want to consider:
Create a shortcut in Windows\Start Menu\ Programs (so when you tap start it appears in the list) pointing to "NaviPanel" (not NaviPanel.exe") locatend under Windows folder and that way you can launch it when you like... Using an icon changing software you can change the icon of your shortcut...
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Hi everybody,
I've got problems with connecting my Rikaline 6010 to the Car Kit. With the help of the forum I know now, wich pins I have to connect together. But I'm not be able to bring power to the Mouse. I have the +5V and GND connected but the LED on the mouse won't turn on. With a simple car adapter for the mouse and the xda it works perfect. I try to look inside the cable of the car adapter and it looks lite the cable, I build myself.
Maybe I have to short some pins inside the connector ??
Does anybody have a Rikaline 6010 successful connected to the xda car kit ?
thanks a lot
rob.
Make sure the switched power supply is connected.
I assume you are using the official XDA carkit.
I did some reverse engineering on this carkit and found that the GPS powerline is only working if the switched power line for the carkit is connected.
After disconnecting this line the GPS power will stay on for 1 hour and then automatically switch of.
Have you checked if there is power on the GPS connector of the carkit when nothing is connected? Maybe the current demand is to high? For pinlayout check www.vanhemert.biz
Francois
Hi Francois,
I think my problem is not the car kit. After it doesn't work with the carkit, I tried to connect my car-adapter-cable with the cable, I made myself to the gps-mouse. And also there, the mouse doesn't get power. So I simply put +5V and GND to the pins of the mouse-connection and it doesn't work.
Maybe GND must be connected to two pins or to the GND-pin AND the PS2-connector's metall ?
I think, I have to buy a H203e to make it work....
rob.
Pinlayout
I have looked at the data sheet (http://www.rikaline.com/pdf/gps-6010-manual-e.pdf) and it looks straightforward. Pin 2 and 4 should do the job but I can imagine that you need a correct RS232 signal to get the thing up and running. Are you sure that the LED is just an indication of power or does it only light if power and RS-232 is correct?
As you can see in the schematics on my website I had trouble opening the COM port on my XDA, Communication just did not start unless I pulled the DCD line (pin 6) to Vcc. This will activate Active sync in the same way as the original cable set I used to have.
Good luck,
Francois
Hi,
thanks for your reply. The LED on the GPS-Mouse have to turn on simply by bringing power to it. I've tried that by using my car adapter cable and simply connect the mouse to the cable and not connect the xda...and the LED turns on.
I've ordered today a Hi203E and I will try to conncet it as you described on your homepage....hope it will work (if not, I'll be back ;-))
thanks a lot
rob.
Hi Francois,
today I received my Hi203e and I will try to connect it to the carkit.
One Question:
Is the connector, which is shown on your homepage and labeled with "to gps" the female connector, which is wired to the gps-mouse or the male connector, which is wired on the selfmade cable between carkit and PS2-connector of the mouse ??
thanks
rob.
hi,
ok, my previous question is now obsolet. The connector, which is wired to the Hi203e, is male (at my Rikaline6010 it is female). So I have to buy a female connector and build new cable. I made a first test by bringing the +5V and GND of the carkit over an adaptercable to the gps-mouse and (yippie) it worked. The LED on the mouse turns on !! Looks pretty good.
...to be continued (if I have the new connector...)
rob.
Hi Francois,
I've got it now and it works perfect. Thanks again for the Info's on your webpage.
2 points:
I've got a low noise (frequently repeated) in the speaker, when the gps is active. Is there something to do against that ?
And how can I stop the activation of active-sync, when i put the xda into the carkit ?
Do you know that ?
thanks
rob
noise...
rob said:
I've got a low noise (frequently repeated) in the speaker, when the gps is active. Is there something to do against that ?
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I would guess this is the speaker wire picking up the GSM signal, nothing to do with the GPS. Try re-aligning so that the wires relative to the antenna of the XDA. If that doesn't work, you could experiment with ferrite beads (these ugly black blocks on all modern cables) on the wires.
Same problem here, but...
I found that if I start serial communication with the GPS unit, i will hear some interferance via the speaker. It looks like the auto mute functions does not work immediatlly after inserting the XDA and "the connection is left open".
Workaround:
Pressing the red phone button to generate a tone (keypress) activates the automute and the interferance will disappear. (at least is does in my case)
Auto start of the active sync process:
This is caused by the DCD line pulled to Vcc. I first owned a standard GPS Y-cable (XDA/GPS/Lighter) and it showed the same behaviour. My first experiment was to not use the DCD line (just gnd, tx and rx)but at that time TomTom could not open the COM port. I did no further investigation but one of the forum members suggested to disable the IR connection and auto sync, this should free the com port to TomTom and not start active sync automatically. Again I have not tested it but if you will, i am interested.
Good luck,
francois
hi,
Been reading this thread with alot of interest...
can someone help me with a problem, I have the O2 carkit installed in my car, and i also have a rikaline 6010 that i would like to attach it.
I have found the GPS connector that i need to attach the GPS reciever to but when i check the connector for +5v its not there...
Does anyone know where i can connect it to... looks like the person who connect my carkit could'nt be bothered about connecting up the GPS connector properly...
and also the colour of wires that everyone mentions, mine are a different colour...
i have the following from my rikaline reciever, 4 in total...
red
black
green
white
does anyone know what connects to what????
Many Thanks
Zetex
Rikalinegps 6010 with cables - from eBay
This receiver is available with cable for XDA via eBay (see link below), but you guys have got me worried. I'm thinking of buying the Rikaline 6010 but am I going to have to do all this business of rewiring etc? What's the economical way of buying all the other bits that I need (Software, Car Kit etc)?
I'm looking for some easy to follow advice. Keep it simple please.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4668&item=3094896604&rd=1
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I received a Wing from T-Mobile yesterday and the device shipped with standard USB Mini connector (for sync/power) (rectangle with flared bottom) and a wall charger with the same typical mini USB connector. However, the connector on the phone is a similar rectangle shape, but has one diagonal corner, otherwise a perfect rectangle (while also some sort of mini USB connector, this connector is capable of handling audio in addition to sync and power...) It is the same jack that the headphones/mic fit into
In order to make this work, HTC packaged a small 1x1 node with a pigtail to convert the traditional flared mini USB connector to the new format connector.
Does anyone know where such a part might be able to be purchased? Or what the "name" of the connector is that I am describing? T-Mobile and HTC have both been rather useless and arrogant about the subject.
Thanks,
pmcooker said:
I received a Wing from T-Mobile yesterday and the device shipped with standard USB Mini connector (for sync/power) (rectangle with flared bottom) and a wall charger with the same typical mini USB connector. However, the connector on the phone is a similar rectangle shape, but has one diagonal corner, otherwise a perfect rectangle (while also some sort of mini USB connector, this connector is capable of handling audio in addition to sync and power...) It is the same jack that the headphones/mic fit into
In order to make this work, HTC packaged a small 1x1 node with a pigtail to convert the traditional flared mini USB connector to the new format connector.
Does anyone know where such a part might be able to be purchased? Or what the "name" of the connector is that I am describing? T-Mobile and HTC have both been rather useless and arrogant about the subject.
Thanks,
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http://www.hot-wire-telekom.de/index.php?aktion=detail&suche=HTC TyTN&asuche=HW132471 - an audioadapter
http://www.hot-wire-telekom.de/index.php?aktion=detail&suche=HTC TyTN&asuche=HW132233
Don´t know exactly what you mean? I´m using several USB cables and they all work.
If you want an adapter to use two usb (charge AND headset) HTC himselfe has one. And if you want an usb --> 2,5mm there are several on ebay.
FYI ... the new HTC USB connector is actually a standard Mini-USB with extra pins for analog audio. If you were to take your standard USB cable and plus it into the phone, it should work. The only thing you need the adapter for is to use the headset, which is unfortunate. All the adapter does is split off the USB signal from the audio signal.
At least, this is how I understand it. My Wing won't be here until Tuesday.
In the USA, the Wing ships with a 2-way splitter. One plug is for USB POWER, and the other for headset. Err... I don't know which, if either, DATA would go over, it's mainly intended for use in the car when you want to have it plugged in but use the headset also!
I need to order a smaller audio-converter... something that can go inline with my headphones without looking/feeling/being stupid-big.
Gurm said:
In the USA, the Wing ships with a 2-way splitter. One plug is for USB POWER, and the other for headset. Err... I don't know which, if either, DATA would go over, it's mainly intended for use in the car when you want to have it plugged in but use the headset also!
I need to order a smaller audio-converter... something that can go inline with my headphones without looking/feeling/being stupid-big.
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I ordered a converted from usb to 2.5mm from igonemobile for use on my Dash and my Wing. It's about 4 inches long, not too big in my opinion.
So far so good. 10 bucks, shipping included.
http://www.igonemobile.com/products/html/56115310.html
Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere; I couldn't find anything.
I'm looking into getting some spare chargers for my Tilt. I read at Pocket PC Techs that the device has a distinct "fast charge" mode, that uses a special pinout. Is this true?
If so, does the charger that comes with the Tilt use this fast charge mode? It seems to be just a standard mini-USB charger (data sheet here).
The link to Pocket PC Techs is actually to an adapter that they sell that is suppose to give you a fast charge with any USB charger. I'm wondering under what circumstances I'd have to use this.
Anyone know what the fast charge pinout is, and which third-party chargers use it?
Thanks.
ISTR reading something about pins 4 & 5 being tied together on some chargers -- should be very easy to test this.
I have not tested this but I suspect the pin out is the same as the Hermes:
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config
The USB charging is done with different connections and at a different mA rating. The mains charger is 1000mA and is what I would call the normal charging system (but what the site you show, refers to as fast charge - but only by comparison to USB charging) This is just about standard for many sync/charge PDAs and not a special feature of the Kaiser.
Mike
I do notice a huge difference in speed comparing my old razor usb power adapter vs usb cable into my computer vs tilt power adapater so it prolly makes sense
jallenclark said:
I do notice a huge difference in speed comparing my old razor usb power adapter vs usb cable into my computer vs tilt power adapater so it prolly makes sense
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Yep, the Razor adapter only delivers 500mA not 1000mA
Mike
Plus the razor charger does not have the pins 4-5 shorted, this is a HTC tweak that lets the phone know that it's on a charger vs std. USB power and it may in fact charge at a higher rate upon detecting this. I just know that my Hermes occasionally did strange things like turn off BT radio and other odd things when connecting/disconnecting from different chargers. Kaiser seems better at this.
For a couple of weeks now, I have been charging my Kaiser at work by using the adapter that came with my Audiovox SMT5600. It's been working fine. I cannot however determine if this charges any faster or slower than the Kaiser's adapter.
Slow Charging
So that would explain when I use GPS in the car with my old RAZR charger why the battery still drains. Darn, looks like I'll have to buy a new car charger.
USB Charging
are there any issues iwth battery drain or lif when charging with the USB cable connected to a computer?
Thanks,
g
Is there a specific USB charger.
The pin out is the same as the Hermes?
mikechannon said:
I have not tested this but I suspect the pin out is the same as the Hermes:
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config....
Mike
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Is that tested by anybody?
Frans. said:
Is that tested by anybody?
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I wouldn't think it would need to be tested. As per this page:
HTC has developed a range of accessories that are compatible across all HTC devices for consumer's ease of use. These include the BH M200 (Bluetooth headset), HS U110 (3.5 mm audio adapter and headset), and the HS S200 (HTC standard stereo wired headset) to enable effective communications on the move.
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If the audio adapter and hard wired headset are compatible across all HTC devices (per HTC themselves), then that confirms that the pinout of the audio side is the same. And it's been mentioned earlier that the data side follows the mini-usb standard, which I can confirm: I'm using the usb cable from my camera to connect my Kaiser to my PC at home, while I use the supplied cable to connect it to my work PC.
dscline said:
I wouldn't think it would need to be tested. As per this page:
If the audio adapter and hard wired headset are compatible across all HTC devices (per HTC themselves), then that confirms that the pinout of the audio side is the same. And it's been mentioned earlier that the data side follows the mini-usb standard, which I can confirm: I'm using the usb cable from my camera to connect my Kaiser to my PC at home, while I use the supplied cable to connect it to my work PC.
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I would like to use my old Himalaya MDA II Hands Free DSP Car Kit for my new Kaiser (as that I only have to buy a passive holder).
I tried to find a ExtUSB 11-lead Pre-wired Connector Plug ....but it is impossible..any suggestions?
It should be something like this one http://www.gomadic.com/comip10leadp.html
Sorry, can't help you there.
enigmaneo said:
So that would explain when I use GPS in the car with my old RAZR charger why the battery still drains. Darn, looks like I'll have to buy a new car charger.
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I am experiencing a similar issue with an USB/car adapter and the USB cable that came with the Tilt.
Ran Google Maps yesterday with GPS on and when I got home my phone was almost empty. It was charging the whole time in the car though.
Does this mean I should look for another USB cable that is shorting those pins?
What about these adapters that plug into the phone and allow you to connect a USB cable for charging and a 3.5mm audio plug?
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-3in1-USB-3-...ryZ15040QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
coolVariable said:
I am experiencing a similar issue with an USB/car adapter and the USB cable that came with the Tilt.
Ran Google Maps yesterday with GPS on and when I got home my phone was almost empty. It was charging the whole time in the car though.
Does this mean I should look for another USB cable that is shorting those pins?
What about these adapters that plug into the phone and allow you to connect a USB cable for charging and a 3.5mm audio plug?
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-3in1-USB-3-...ryZ15040QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Mmm, that is a unique piece!! But the cable seems somewhat short.
I think at the end..I am going to combine following pieces to make the final connection to my old handsfree carkit.. (I hate soldering)
http://i.expansys.com/i/b/b139762.jpg
http://www.allekabels.nl/Kroonsteentjes/35/3249/Kroonsteen.html
http://www.allekabels.nl/Monitor-Kabels/19/1342/Monitor-Kabel.html
Any problems with me using my old Razr car charger on my Kaiser? Typically I charge mine every night with the standard charger but in case of emergency I'd like to use my Razr car charger
Thanks
In answer to the original question, yes, pins 4 & 5 are shorted on the OEM charger that ships with the Tilts, thus enabling it to fast-charge the phone at currents greater than 500ma.
Hopefully this helps,
--W5i2
Does anyone know what magnet positioning the HTC Car Cradle uses to activate the Navipanel?
I have a Brodit incar cradle but I have spoken to HTC about getting the Navipanel to launch automaticaly and they say that it can't be done as the HTC cradle has magnets in it which cause the Phone to launch Navipanel when it is proximity with the magnetic field and also running on mains power
I believe the activation of Navipanel has nothing to do with magnetism. It is the connection with the mains that triggers the app.
Why do I think so? Because I ordered the 'Motorola mini usb to micro usb adapter'. When I connected this adapter to the 12 V car charger of my old HD, the navi-app on my HD2 came on, the screen tilted 90 degrees and the speakerphone switched on. So I got rid of that Motorola adapter in the car .
Other adapters don't have this behavior.
So believe the feature has to do with the wiring in the connector.
Regards,
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I believe the activation of Navipanel has nothing to do with magnetism. It is the connection with the mains that triggers the app.
Why do I think so? Because I ordered the 'Motorola mini usb to micro usb adapter'. When I connected this adapter to the 12 V car charger of my old HD, the navi-app on my HD2 came on, the screen tilted 90 degrees and the speakerphone switched on. So I got rid of that Motorola adapter in the car .
Other adapters don't have this behavior.
So believe the feature has to do with the wiring in the connector.
Regards,
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Same to me, but why did you get rid of the adapter??
You can easily turn off the landscape feature from your HD2!!!
I am going to install the Nexus 7 to my car, indash, but I need to find the cable that allows usb storage, dvb radio and charging, is there a cable that has multi usb connectors, please could someone give me links to items...many thanks.
promethieus said:
I am going to install the Nexus 7 to my car, indash, but I need to find the cable that allows usb storage, dvb radio and charging, is there a cable that has multi usb connectors, please could someone give me links to items...many thanks.
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I was looking for something similar a while back. I'm in the UK and still haven't tracked one down
You can find a y otg cable HERE. If you need several USB port, you have to use an USB hub. And also you must flash a kernel with USB host mode charging patches.
promethieus said:
I am going to install the Nexus 7 to my car, indash, but I need to find the cable that allows usb storage, dvb radio and charging, is there a cable that has multi usb connectors, please could someone give me links to items...many thanks.
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Something like this perhaps? It had a usb a cable with a switched 5v lead (for host mode charging), that end plugs into a regular usb otg cable. The other side has female usb a (for devices), mini usb (for most small usb hubs), and male usb a (for connecting to a power source, in the 2nd pick there is a 2000 mAh usb battery)
I couldn't find anyone selling them so I started making them. I could make you one or post a wiring diagram and you can go to town on it.
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How much to make one and post it to me please.
Ill make and estimate for you over the weekend. Do you want it exactly like the one pictured or do you have a custom request? Your kernel supports otg charging correct? Where will I be getting a quote to ship to?
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I have the usb car rom and kernel by http://mehrvarz.github.io/nexus-7-usbrom/, this should work. yes I would like the same as yours please.
I have alot to do to my car anyways, I previously re modded my dash to fit a double din and modded out my boot to fit the base amp and power cap in the boot still having the spare in there and the base actually fitting inside the spare wheel and still sounding good, so will have to research the wiring needed for the nexus and the volume control and such...please be nice with the price, I do appreciate it though.
I am in the uk, where are you from?
I found the kernel you compiled, wondering if this will work with the rom I installed too.
It might, its all cm10.1 source. The current version does not support host mode, the updated one I'm posting this week does (just so you know). If it does work for you you could do some fun wardriving with your car mount, if your into that sort of thing!
I'm in sunny california usa
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Will have to see what the shipping fees will be, I have friends over there too. Part of a gaming clan. Have been for sooo long now. If it works out too much, I will have to ask you for the wiring diagram and I will have to see about doing it myself, I am good with electronics, but it was just the time to set aside. You can message me the diag if you like, please forward it to fixer14 at hotmail.com.
Ok cool, its a pretty straight forward design. If you can solder you can make one.
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Ok matey, hit me up with the details then please.
I have just been out to my car and have set my phone up via bluetooth, and also want my nexus to connect to the phone and have sound, calls, satnav running to the amp via phone, when I try to connect it seems that it will only allow 1 device at a time, so this is an issue for me, I want to be able to run my copilot live from the nexus, and also have ability to play music and receive and make calls. is there a bluetooth receiver that will allow me to do this without having to switch to a specific device each time...any ideas welcome, my nexus is not a 3g one.
My amp is a 4 channel Hertz, with powercap installed.
I'm installing my nexus 7 in my car as well but I'm concerned that it wont charge while running Nav, Pandora and other apps at the same time. It seems that the nexus 7 is picky when it come to cables and chargers. What do you guys suggest
Riley1524 said:
I'm installing my nexus 7 in my car as well but I'm concerned that it wont charge while running Nav, Pandora and other apps at the same time. It seems that the nexus 7 is picky when it come to cables and chargers. What do you guys suggest
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Ive got my nexus 7 installed into my double din, I'm using a Parrot device to bluetooth sound to but also charging it from the usb slot from the Parrot box.
I'm going to change the bluetooth to a AUX cable to save on battery use and already tried optimising settings to save on battery.
I'm not very clued up on this type of stuff but I've got it so the screen comes on and status on when power is there, got screen dimming widgets so I can dim the screen right down when I want to save battery.
All in all it works very well but battery does eventually die after a week or two so I take it out for a full recharge.
A couple of ideas I'm thinking is
1) using usb extension cable, run it to the glove box and every couple of days attach a emergency battery charging unit.
2) using a little solar panel charging unit built into parcel shelf.
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I am not concerned about power usage as an inverter will solve this permenantly. As long as you get the correct charger for use with the inverter.
Im going with this charger. From the looks of it, it seems to be a good choice.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005J4OTUO/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00
I wonder why more developers don't include the fast charge option in their kernels. Ill let everyone know how it works
Okay, I have just made up a dock for the nexus for my car, it is in "Production State" at the mo, so I still have to tidy it up and spray it and finish it.
I have fitted a charging connector and audio connector into it,
Hardest part was getting the connectors to line up.
At least it is started now, I will be making up the OTG cable, when I get the wiring diagram for it, have all the bits ready.
Okay, here is the Video, I know the dock looks rough at the moment, but it has to be tidied up.
http://youtu.be/ElBILx72NTQ