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I got my Diamond delivered yesterday from Expansys, the unit arrived almost a week early which was fantastic, however it appears Expansys are selling grey imports, see: http://www.expansys.com/ft.aspx?k=110164
a. What is a grey import?
b. Why does the HTC website not acknowledge the serial number?
c. Should I sent the unit back and wait until the 'UK Official Stock' arrives?
Thanks.
A grey import, to my knowledge, means that its not the white (i.e legal) market, but not the black (i.e. illegal) market, but inbetween. So, was imported legally, but youre not meant to sell it to UK residents. Which in this case means no UK warranty and as you have seen, a serial not recognised by HTC UK's website.
As other people have suggested, wait until the other stores are shipping real UK stock, i.e devicewire, clove etc, and then call them and complain, that way, you dont have to wait until they get official stock in.
Rory
a. Rory's right. Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_market
"The grey market is the trade of something legal through unofficial, unauthorized, unintended distribution channels."
So basically, they're importing the Touch Diamond and selling it before they should. Nothing particularly illegal, but HTC are going to be really angry with Expansys.
b. I have no idea. Perhaps you could get in contact with HTC and see what they say you should do.
c. I would refer you to my answer for b.
If your in the UK you're covered by distance selling regulations. You can send it back within 7 days
http://www.oft.gov.uk/advice_and_resources/resource_base/legal/distance-selling-regulations/
Also you are perfectly entitled to send it back because it is not as described - which of course its not if its a grey import.
If expansys give you grief you can use trading standards, or even have your credit card company retract the payment and deal with it for you
Expansys usually tell you all the details of each handset before you buy it such as language and warranty coverage, depending on which Expansys site you are ordering from (I've found alarming price differences for the same Touch Diamond depending on where you order it from) so you need to strike a balance assuming you have no import restrictions.
I just realised something... Remember when Lik-Sang imported PSP's to the UK and Europe, and even to the SCEE President, and Sony sued them at the High court and got them closed down, stating that the power adapters weren't safe, could HTC do the same? Would serve Expansys right for
A) misleading and
B) overpricing.
Rory
I dont get this guys, HTC.com are partners with Expansys, and HTC are selling direct online through Expansys.
HTC´s online store;
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc.aspx
Powered by Expansys!
If you can register the Diamond on HTC's website then I figure it is ok and the warranty stands. However, if you cannot then I would be starting to think about returning it and asking Expansys to pick up all related costs...
R
htc kaiser for sale - $350
comes with original box, app cd, manual, sync cable, 1gb microSD, flashed with a 6.1 rom,
has had screen protector quite literally from the moment i took it out of the box.
came with european charger, i'll throw in the motorola charger i've been using + car charger and car windshield mount(see: http://www.thepocketsolution.com/PSI-42435/HTC+TyTN+II+Deluxe+Dashboard+Mount.html, white pocket solutions case with clip(see http://www.thepocketsolution.com/PSI-42360/HTC+TyTN+II+White+Diplomat+Series+Case.html
original htc case, blue clear case (see: http://www.thepocketsolution.com/PSI-43906/HTC+TyTN+II+Blue+Crystal+Clear+Case.html
brand new pack of 3 styli specifically for the tytn II
if i think of anything else i'll add it later
the phone does have a few scratches along the edge of the casing but the phone works flawlessly, right now i have no pics, and honestly the scratches wouldn't be visible in a picture anyways. you already know all the specs on this phone so i'm not going to list those. it is this HTC tytn II as i mentioned before not the att tilt or any other variety
i will ship(on me) usps with insurance unless otherwise specified
email me at [email protected] for questions/offers
i accept paypal only
when i post to ebay i'll add the link here
here's the ebay link with pictures!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170229041118
just sent you an email.
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@ the OP
Please inform us if it is successfully sold so that we may close this thread at the appropriate time.
@ everyone else
I deleted the posts that were hijacking this thread. I hope you guys understand.
Thank you for understanding
Hello All,
This is just to inform you all that this phone is now sold since I have just purchased it on ebay.
This will be my second Kaiser, and I have to admit that I am very happy with it. I had a Herald before, and the Kaiser is a distinct improvement.
Thanks to all on this site who provide such good advice!! And thanks for helping me find a new phone for my wife!!
nebc100
How come no one wants to purchase my phone, although its been advertised for longer?
Sorry, 246810. I didn't see that your phone was for sale, and also, although your phone if probably a cheaper offer (if you look at what you are giving with it), I wanted the HTC model not the MDA version because I already have an HTC model myself and I don't want to have two different versions of the same phone.
Sorry!!!
P.S. I might have a Herald for sale when the Kaiser arrives as my wife currently has a Herald and she might not want it any more. Anyone interested?
P.P.S. I regulary send older models to the Philippines (my wife is from the Philippines) as charity as they cannot afford such phones there. If anyone has any of the older models (so far I have sent Wizards and a couple of Universals) and would be willing to donate them to charity (I don't make any money from this at all), please PM me. THANKS!!!!
Hey 246810.
Maybe you should reduce your price a bit to get more interest. Your Phone is a T-mobile branded TYTN so will not have the look of the original TYTN from HTC Which may put some poeple off a bit.
I recently had the opportunity to purchase a MDA vario 3 for £200 brand-new and never used but my heart was set on an orginal looking one. A week later I managed to get an orange branded one with a HTC replacement battery cover £250.
I'm not saying yours isn't a bad offer. But maybe the price is a bit too much for what it is.
Hope you find luck selling it.
nebc100 said:
Sorry, 246810. I didn't see that your phone was for sale, and also, although your phone if probably a cheaper offer (if you look at what you are giving with it), I wanted the HTC model not the MDA version because I already have an HTC model myself and I don't want to have two different versions of the same phone.
Sorry!!!
P.S. I might have a Herald for sale when the Kaiser arrives as my wife currently has a Herald and she might not want it any more. Anyone interested?
P.P.S. I regulary send older models to the Philippines (my wife is from the Philippines) as charity as they cannot afford such phones there. If anyone has any of the older models (so far I have sent Wizards and a couple of Universals) and would be willing to donate them to charity (I don't make any money from this at all), please PM me. THANKS!!!!
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Yep, I have a thread advertising my phone. I'm still waiting for my paypal set up to come through and then I will put in on Ebay. Mine is brand new as well and hasn't even be switched on and comes with all you need.
Good luck with your herald- quite personally I don't see myself purchasing a Windws Mobile phone again in a very long time...
just great...
246810 said:
How come no one wants to purchase my phone, although its been advertised for longer?
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Cause I have no way of getting to London, lol. If you wanna fly to the US and sell it face to face let me know
wshader said:
Cause I have no way of getting to London, lol. If you wanna fly to the US and sell it face to face let me know
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Lol. Okay, point made. If there is a buyer in London, UK then I am willing to meet face to face as this is the safest method for both the buyer and seller. I really do want to get rid of it however, and when my Paypal is sorted out shortly, you can purchase it by paypal if you're interested?....
246810 said:
Lol. Okay, point made. If there is a buyer in London, UK then I am willing to meet face to face as this is the safest method for both the buyer and seller. I really do want to get rid of it however, and when my Paypal is sorted out shortly, you can purchase it by paypal if you're interested?....
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Thats what 550-600USD? Not really, can almost buy a diamond for that price and an att tilt for half of that
wshader said:
Thats what 550-600USD? Not really, can almost buy a diamond for that price and an att tilt for half of that
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May I ask if you can buy it for this price brand new? I do find it hard to believe that you can purchase a new Diamond for around £290. Who are you purchasing them from? Cuboosh?...
Also, keep in mind that it comes with 4 cases, two of which are the boxwave clear active case and Siedo's case, and two leather cases, Sony Bluetooth headphones in good condition, along with a virtually unused very compact Bluetooth keyboard that I purchased off Expansys for £60/$120.
not to hijack the thread or anything, but just to let you know, that most people dont really care about that stuff. i wouldnt pay extra for a bluetooth keyboard. why would i need it??? hah 4 cases??!!! one is more than enough. just letting you know why you're having problems selling it so far. maybe try selling that stuff separately??
Hi,
This is my first post here, but the site is great and I've been coming back here for about 2 weeks while trying to decide if I should buy a diamond and I have to say the people, reviews and discussions have certainly swayed my choice into getting one. It was touch and go (pardon the pun) for a while after some initial bad reviews, but since the ROM update it seems everybody is a lot happier! I know it will take a bit of tweaking, but I'm a S/W engineer, so its nothing I'm afraid of, but it will be my first WM device, so I'm a little scared...
I nearly opted for the iPhone, but its a brick, if not a pretty cool device, but I want something that I can put in my pocket and use as a normal phone... I have an iPod for music and videos, a phone is a phone (but the GPS rocks)
Anyway, I digress, I do have only 2 questions and the first one is pretty redundant from reading this forum, but here goes:
I saw a Touch Diamond for sale on eBay and the guy selling it said that he was selling it because he was disappointed because when he came to use the GPS it was a lie and that he needed an extra component and had to carry something else around? Whats all this about. I did freak a little when I read in all the spec sheets that it was GPS "READY"... what does READY mean? I assume it comes with it all from reading the reviews.
Second question, since my mind is pretty made up and I will be getting one, where is the best place to buy one (for the UK, and UK spec) I'm not looking for cheapness, as i know they are knew and average is around £450ish (inc VAT and Delivery) but dunno where to get one from (Not eBay anyway) any advice on the best online shop, or if anybody knows of any shops that sell them (in Manchester) that would be great.
Thanks for any help in advance!
DG
Plenty of places in the UK to buy them from, if you had done a search you would have found a thread that listed all the places in UK that are selling them and they are uk spec.
But for you ill name a few:
www.expansys.com now have the official uk spec Diamonds
www.clove.co.uk
www.play.com
www.totalpda.co.uk
www.powerupmobile.com
www.htcdirect.co.uk
those are your best bets...think Expansys is based in Manchester but dont know if they allow you to go there and pick up the phone...best to ring them i suppose.
I would recommend Play.com. Never had any problems with them and at the moment it's only £399.99 with free delivery. Others sell it for about £435 or £440.
Yeah, sorry, should have done a search, but battery was dying on the laptop and no plug in sight!
Anyway, thanks for the links guys. I did heard that expansys were selling non official versions and thats one reason I asked, I have used them before but for nothing really as expensive as this.
Thats really cheap for Play, I may used them since I have an account with them...somewhere!
Now I will have the agonising wait and ensuing dissapointment that when I wake up the postman hasn't brought it its going to be a LONG week!
vodafone gona sell it for £230 pay as you go locked on voda...
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news4104.html
harrysaab said:
vodafone gona sell it for £230 pay as you go locked on voda...
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news4104.html
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Woah. If they don't have some super secret locking technology we've not seen until now, that could be a SERIOUSLY GOOD bargain....
harrysaab said:
vodafone gona sell it for £230 pay as you go locked on voda...
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news4104.html
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The general consensus is that this is only if you're a business customer buying an additional handset for your account.
Surely if most places are selling it for £400+ Vodafone won't be giving them away with no contract?!
I saw the eBay one with the guy saying no GPS too - and got a bit worried about my pre order one. I actually emailed him and asked about it. He replied saying it was GPS Ready, but needed additional hardware. After a bit of research I emailed him back again saying I was sure it definately had it built in - within another day the auction had closed early!
Whether he'd done a quick sale, or realised his error - who knows?!
Play is the best price - unless you can get a bargain on eBay. Watch out for 'Next Day' sellers whos small print says a week+ unless you pay extra postage!
WARNING!!! if you buy from play.com in the UK, you'll have to pay VAT tax as the unit will probably be held up in customs.. reason being, Play.com ships from a tax free zone.
It's clearly stated in their terms & conditions that the customer is responsible for taxes. Read the fine print!!
2ndly, I called HTC UK the other day and they told me play.com isn't an authorised dealer so you won't get full UK warranty. I'm serious.. a girl at HTC told me...
If it is a USA order
If you are in the US, then the best place to buy the phone is from Ryan at Negri Electronics. I had a problem with the first two phones (the first was a power issue, the second was wifi). I emailed them in the morning, and by the afternoon I had a UPS overnight tracking order. They included return labels, and it was no questions asked. I have bought all my luxry phones starting back at the Nokia 8800 and up til now (yes I have a addiction for cell phones). NEVER HAD A SINGLE ISSUE! The Diamond also registered on the HTC site. The phone is shrink wrapped in the retail package (he has a network, and actually travels to get the product on or before release that are not grey's). Price my be higher or lower but not by much. I trully think its worth it, because you don't have to wonder about what your are getting or when. They ship the next business day (I gotta give them credit on their speed and customer service. The answer emails right away, and phone calls are 99% answered, and messages are returned immediately.
Heres the direct link: DIAMOND- http://www.negrielectronics.com/touch-diamond-unlocked-p-1506.html
DIAMOND PRO: http://www.negrielectronics.com/htc-touch-pro-p-1530.html
Desktop CRADLE: http://www.negrielectronics.com/touch-diamond-desktop-cradle-g300-p-1526.html
Mine is perfect. They really have their business together.
PS: This is not an advertisement, this is my honest opinion. I have made purchase from expansys (paid for overnight, got it a week later).
Do we know when UK networks are gonna start selling these on contracts?
Im assuming all of them are branding this phone?
leaskovski said:
Do we know when UK networks are gonna start selling these on contracts?
Im assuming all of them are branding this phone?
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Tmobile will be doing them from end of the month from what i have heard..as for voda, orange and o2 they will be carrying it but dont really know when...possibly July??.
As for branding??..yep you can be 110% sure that they will be all branded to some extent. As usual Tmobile will make sure its locked to their network and probably Orange. Voda and o2 will probably sell it unlocked but with their branding on it.
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2ndly, I called HTC UK the other day and they told me play.com isn't an authorised dealer so you won't get full UK warranty. I'm serious.. a girl at HTC told me...
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I bought mine from Devicewire - and when I registered it with HTC - it only says I have a one year warranty. I thought UK devices were supposed to have 2 years?
Diamond
DanGlee said:
Hi,
This is my first post here, but the site is great and I've been coming back here for about 2 weeks while trying to decide if I should buy a diamond and I have to say the people, reviews and discussions have certainly swayed my choice into getting one. It was touch and go (pardon the pun) for a while after some initial bad reviews, but since the ROM update it seems everybody is a lot happier! I know it will take a bit of tweaking, but I'm a S/W engineer, so its nothing I'm afraid of, but it will be my first WM device, so I'm a little scared...
I nearly opted for the iPhone, but its a brick, if not a pretty cool device, but I want something that I can put in my pocket and use as a normal phone... I have an iPod for music and videos, a phone is a phone (but the GPS rocks)
Anyway, I digress, I do have only 2 questions and the first one is pretty redundant from reading this forum, but here goes:
I saw a Touch Diamond for sale on eBay and the guy selling it said that he was selling it because he was disappointed because when he came to use the GPS it was a lie and that he needed an extra component and had to carry something else around? Whats all this about. I did freak a little when I read in all the spec sheets that it was GPS "READY"... what does READY mean? I assume it comes with it all from reading the reviews.
Second question, since my mind is pretty made up and I will be getting one, where is the best place to buy one (for the UK, and UK spec) I'm not looking for cheapness, as i know they are knew and average is around £450ish (inc VAT and Delivery) but dunno where to get one from (Not eBay anyway) any advice on the best online shop, or if anybody knows of any shops that sell them (in Manchester) that would be great.
Thanks for any help in advance!
DG
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It is GPS ready. Try http://www.networkingrus.com
p3eps said:
I bought mine from Devicewire - and when I registered it with HTC - it only says I have a one year warranty. I thought UK devices were supposed to have 2 years?
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Really??? hmm... call HTC and ask them I guess...
Mine shows up as 1 year as well... but with the following message:
Note: Your POP (Proof of Purchase) determines your warranty period. If you cannot provide your POP, your product will be warranted within the above period.
any ideas?? am I still entitled to 2 years warranty??
i know this is not a market place but i would rather it posted here among Kaiser fans that elsewhere.
i've had this phone less than a month and i bought it from a member at Hofo.
i recently dropped about $3.5k on a trip home for my sister's wedding in December so i'm trying to recuperate some of the costs by selling of some of the phones i have.
anyway it is an original TyTN II with front facing camera comes with box, headset, manual etc but missing the original charger and cable. it has a 1amp charger however with a USB port and USB cable which can be unplugged and used as a data cable.
recently replaced the battery cover as well. for a little extra I can include a 2gb mem card with working tomtom7 maps for North America.
it currently has the cmonex patched Hard SPL 3.29 and SJ's Sept 30th HyperDragon rom.
Condition is about 8/10. no scratches on the front and has a screen protector. no scratches on the back either. few small marks on the sides and that's it.
i would like to get $450 for the phone and $470 with mem card and maps but will consider offers.
Mods pls delete this thread if inappropriate. i would rather the phone go to this community first however.
where do you live? do you ship to Canada and how can I guarantee your commitment?
iamcanadian said:
where do you live? do you ship to Canada and how can I guarantee your commitment?
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i live in Kitchener, Ontario. i have Hofo feedback under the same user name as well if you want to check it out.
if you live close you can come check it.
or if you want it shipped, you can use paypal or EMT so you have some paper trail.
I am selling a used GREAT CONDITION ATT TILT (TYTN II HTC). BEEN USED FOR FEW MONTHS WITH MY COMPANY. THE PHONE HAS BEEN UNLOCKED (will work with t-mobile) with 6.1 WINDOWS!! Comes with original accessories (extra stylus, charger, data cable, screen protector, manuel, and CD.)
I'm also including:
2GB MicroSD card
a brand new invisible shield( a $24.95 value)
Looking for about 200.00. No trades. I accept PayPal only. If you live in the Ann Arbor, MI area then i will consider a local pick-up. thanks.
Do contact me on [email protected]
Thanks,
Rupesh
Comes with Manuel? What about his brother Miguel? Oh you meant Manual! Sorry My Mistake.
Given that you have only 3 posts I will post the Following.
This Above post, person, or transaction is in no way affiliated or endorsed by XDA-Developers, the Administration Team or the Moderation Team. Any purchase made is done so at your own risk.
How about creating a new forum area???
It would be nice to move all these posts to a separate group where it might say "Member Sales" with a notice saying that XDA has nothing to do with the ads. That way they could reach only the people that want to buy an item instead of everybody else. Just a little tired of seeing so many posts from people selling their used Kaisers/Tilts.