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Avoiding OTA Updates?

So has anyone found out how to avoid the 1.1 OTA update?
I am buying a NC today that has 1.0.1 and im going to root it but im worried if I do itll update itself to 1.1 and lose root right away? Is this possible?

You could look down a few threads and see.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=930382
I don't think there is a surefire way unless you keep wifi off all the time.

I read that, but it seemed more technical whereas my real question is
So it may be impossible to stop your NC from downloading/applying a update and breaking root, without your consent?

According to the following link, you can avoid it by editing your build.props file.
My problem is, I can't get the adb tools to work so that I can edit it.
and I don't know of any other easy alternatives.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10917382&postcount=64

fulko said:
According to the following link, you can avoid it by editing your build.props file.
My problem is, I can't get the adb tools to work so that I can edit it.
and I don't know of any other easy alternatives. [/url]
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The post I made (linked a few posts up) mentions that you can do it over ADB Wifi, which is pretty simple to set up, even if your OS is too deficient for USB to work right. You can also do it with Root Explorer.

[Q] Scared to apply JB Update

I had another thread about rooting my Bionic and I was getting help. I did have more questions and was hoping that as the process went on, I would get answers. I guess it just kinda died since no one is answering my last questions. If anyone wants to check it out, it's in this section and the only one I have posted.
Anyway, the main question I have, and I figured it would be better to start it's own topic, is about updating to JB on a rooted phone. I have read many threads and lots of people either messed up root or bricked and had to start over. I guess it's not so much a question, more like directions on doing it properly. Like I said, I have read posts with instructions and a bunch of people chime in saying they did everything but still lost root. So there could be something unclear in those instructions and I don't want to take a chance. I will tell you what I have so far and what I have done.
I rooted my phone using this method
http://droidbionicroot.com/droid-bionic-root/how-to-root-ics-on-droid-bionic-and-motorola-android/
The root process I used gave me SuperSU and didn't tell me the version for the SU binaries. I searched around and all I could find was info on SuperUser in regards to backing up root. I uninstalled SuperSU, kinda. I just told it to use a different SU cuz when I used SuperUser and updated the binaries, SuperSU wanted to update them, then I opened SuperUser and the binaries reverted back. I was worried so I just told SuperSU to use a different SU. Was that ok?
SuperSU is no longer there, just disappeared. SuperUser is still on my phone.
Got safestrap tho still not updated to 3.11, got TBU (free), got Voodoo.
I have not made a backup with TBU.
I did do protect root with Voodoo but that was a week or so ago.
I have not made any major changes. BUT, I do have Hide It Pro and the apps I have hidden appear in TBU as frozen. Well at least it is highlighted and the option defrost is there.
So yeah, I want to make sure I update correctly. And I know some of you will either think or actually post that I should search. I assure you that I have. I just want to make sure it's not the instructions and it's just the person's mistake for not following instructions. I did see a post that had a bunch of people saying it didn't work and then 3 pages in a person said "oh you were supposed to do that" which was never made clear.

Don't be afraid....
The worst that can happen is you brick your phone and have to redo EVERYTHING. And chances are that won't happen if you're considering this and have done things in the past.
I only keep one SU app on my phone, but I have heard about being careful if you do have more than one not to confuse the binaries, so maybe if you can uninstall one and just use the one you kept to do everything, I'd say do that, but again I don't know.
I would also be careful about anything frozen especially if it's a system app or bloatware in the system...
See my other thread [Trifecta] Jelly Bean Update...I had all kinds of issues and made it thru, I'm sure you could too.
Cheers.

Ok, but what exactly do I do? I haven't modded anything, just rooted and "froze" apps. I know that after reading that I should take my phone back to where I had it right after root with no changes. Like I said, my phone has no mods and nothing has really changed. So what is the best way to update and keep root? Only reason I want to keep root is because it was easy and I don't want to do it again but more complicated (don't know Linux) If someone wants to type it out, step by step, or link to instructions that you followed exactly and succeeded in updating and keeping root, please do so.
As far as the GSM hack, not sure if I really need that.

Sorry....wasn't leaving you hanging...
You can try an app called OTA RootKeeper by Voodoo, it seems to work most of the time. But from what I understand once you start the update to JB even if it fails you can't go back. So if you update and lose root...
Go HERE
Read thru it, then follow the links to all info, tools & instructions.
Cheers.

Thanks. Hopefully everything goes ok with the update. I really don't want to spend a day learning and updating programs I never used. But if the update fails I guess I have no choice. I will wait till I know I have time, probably this weekend.

CycoPuppet said:
Thanks. Hopefully everything goes ok with the update. I really don't want to spend a day learning and updating programs I never used. But if the update fails I guess I have no choice. I will wait till I know I have time, probably this weekend.
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I was chiming in for what little help I could offer on your other thread, and then I ran into an unexpected glitch myself. You can read all about it here. Basically, if you do an FDR for any reason on the stock ROM in SafeStrap, you are probably going to run into problems. It's happening to a ton of other people.

CycoPuppet said:
I had another thread about rooting my Bionic and I was getting help. I did have more questions and was hoping that as the process went on, I would get answers. I guess it just kinda died since no one is answering my last questions. If anyone wants to check it out, it's in this section and the only one I have posted.
Anyway, the main question I have, and I figured it would be better to start it's own topic, is about updating to JB on a rooted phone. I have read many threads and lots of people either messed up root or bricked and had to start over. I guess it's not so much a question, more like directions on doing it properly. Like I said, I have read posts with instructions and a bunch of people chime in saying they did everything but still lost root. So there could be something unclear in those instructions and I don't want to take a chance. I will tell you what I have so far and what I have done.
I rooted my phone using this method
http://droidbionicroot.com/droid-bionic-root/how-to-root-ics-on-droid-bionic-and-motorola-android/
The root process I used gave me SuperSU and didn't tell me the version for the SU binaries. I searched around and all I could find was info on SuperUser in regards to backing up root. I uninstalled SuperSU, kinda. I just told it to use a different SU cuz when I used SuperUser and updated the binaries, SuperSU wanted to update them, then I opened SuperUser and the binaries reverted back. I was worried so I just told SuperSU to use a different SU. Was that ok?
SuperSU is no longer there, just disappeared. SuperUser is still on my phone.
Got safestrap tho still not updated to 3.11, got TBU (free), got Voodoo.
I have not made a backup with TBU.
I did do protect root with Voodoo but that was a week or so ago.
I have not made any major changes. BUT, I do have Hide It Pro and the apps I have hidden appear in TBU as frozen. Well at least it is highlighted and the option defrost is there.
So yeah, I want to make sure I update correctly. And I know some of you will either think or actually post that I should search. I assure you that I have. I just want to make sure it's not the instructions and it's just the person's mistake for not following instructions. I did see a post that had a bunch of people saying it didn't work and then 3 pages in a person said "oh you were supposed to do that" which was never made clear.
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You were trying to use two different superuser apps (superuser and SuperSu) to control the su binary - each comes with its own binary, so when you used one to update su, then the other is naturally going to complain.

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CycoPuppet said:
So yeah, I want to make sure I update correctly. And I know some of you will either think or actually post that I should search. I assure you that I have. I just want to make sure it's not the instructions and it's just the person's mistake for not following instructions. I did see a post that had a bunch of people saying it didn't work and then 3 pages in a person said "oh you were supposed to do that" which was never made clear.
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I highly suggest that before you try anything, you make a backup of your device with TBU and then copy the TBU file to your PC.
From what i've heard the cleanest way to keep root and get to JB is to backup everything, flash the ICS fxz, root, backup root with Voodoo and then take the ota update. This should put your phone on stock rooted JB. From there you can download TBU and restore your apps and data.
This is a bit excessive but it should in theory fix any issues that could arise from having frozen apps or otherwise changed the system.

ian_mcxa said:
I highly suggest that before you try anything, you make a backup of your device with TBU and then copy the TBU file to your PC.
From what i've heard the cleanest way to keep root and get to JB is to backup everything, flash the ICS fxz, root, backup root with Voodoo and then take the ota update. This should put your phone on stock rooted JB. From there you can download TBU and restore your apps and data.
This is a bit excessive but it should in theory fix any issues that could arise from having frozen apps or otherwise changed the system.
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DO NOT ATTEMPT TO FXZ TO 246 ICS NOW. You've already updated to JB, and you will brick your phone if you attempt to go back.

[Q] bionic jb 98.72.22 su binary help! root access?

So from the beginning I updated from notification on phone from 4.0.4 to 4.1.2. Then bricked after trying to gain root acess. Finally able to flash jb 98.72.22. Tried for days to find a root that worked. Couldn't get motochopper to gain root. Tried god knows how many others. Finally got virtual box, imported Root_Bionic_JB.ova and still wouldn't work. Keep coming across su binary issues. The closest i got was with the virtual box installing superuser. But when I trying to update the binary says unable and to send a log report. What am i doing wrong? is it a step im missing when unzipping to desktop? everything goes smooth until cmd gets to rooting, then says failed. cleaning. press enter to reboot and close. Im about to lose my mind! Please some assistance. I sick of failing every attempt from every suggest forum (quietly sobbing )

You need to go back to what has been proven to work. Moto chopper 2. Not to be insulting BUT I know from experience, just BC you can't get something to work the first couple of times you try it doesn't mean it does not work. Period. Now, where did you get hung up on the Ubuntu exploit? List all that you did.
Sent from my XT875 using xda premium

linux minimal screen shot, and unbuntu hang up
DanRyan85 said:
You need to go back to what has been proven to work. Moto chopper 2. Not to be insulting BUT I know from experience, just BC you can't get something to work the first couple of times you try it doesn't mean it does not work. Period. Now, where did you get hung up on the Ubuntu exploit? List all that you did.
Sent from my XT875 using xda premium
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Well, not to be insulting, but it was my understanding that moto chopper would only work if temp rooted or had gained root acess previously? I may be wrong. Anyways, the prob. with unbuntu is thing i guess froze (but still ran) after patiently running it like six hours. Last screen at was installing-reinstalling previous "somethings" but I figured need a system clean and would try again. gotta be easier way. so here is my linux minimal screenshot attempt. running root bionic jb ovf file. noticed where it starting going wrong is
chmod: pwn: operation not permitted.
rooting phone...
phone may appear to.......
/system/bin/sh: /storage/rfs0/pwn: not found <-------Right here i noticed the file path on the phone and it's ---> storage/rfs1 Would that have something to do w/ it?
nothing ever vibrates and reboots in flash. got bad flash or something?

MotoChopper works on non TI (OMAP) CPus that are in Motoroal devices.
Coincidentally, it also works on ASUS Tranformer Infinity (and the Prime as well, IIRC).
It does not work on the BIONIC.
The method that works on rooting the JB build on the BIONIC is one that is based upon the older RAZR method - see http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/16518-root-motoshare-2-old-bug-new-exploit/

Bionic and JB OVA flash superuser binary outdated
Naughtybutbritt said:
So from the beginning I updated from notification on phone from 4.0.4 to 4.1.2. Then bricked after trying to gain root acess. Finally able to flash jb 98.72.22. Tried for days to find a root that worked. Couldn't get motochopper to gain root. Tried god knows how many others. Finally got virtual box, imported Root_Bionic_JB.ova and still wouldn't work. Keep coming across su binary issues. The closest i got was with the virtual box installing superuser. But when I trying to update the binary says unable and to send a log report. What am i doing wrong? is it a step im missing when unzipping to desktop? everything goes smooth until cmd gets to rooting, then says failed. cleaning. press enter to reboot and close. Im about to lose my mind! Please some assistance. I sick of failing every attempt from every suggest forum (quietly sobbing )
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I am having same issue. Using Marty OVA in virtual box. works great, no issues w/ samba or USB. Root is successfully run. however.
root checker indicated that I am not rooted and as mentioned above, superuser needs to update the binaries.
" the Superuser binary (su) must be updated
please choose an installation method
recovery mode installation is recommended for HTC devices.
Cancel <> Recovery Install<> Install
hit install
there was an error installing superuser. Please send a log of the error to the developer.
<ok>
wonder if I could replace the superuser.adk file in the /home/guest/share directory with a newer adk file?
could not get post on droidrzr.com on a thread there. ( link not permitted by Noobs )
Marty45714 informed us He posted this here as well. can anyone answer this?
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To Naughty: Sorry about the mix up that was what I meant to say Moto share 2 NOT Motochopper. I had all the same problems as you after some number of tries with motoshare2 I was in business.
To martin: have you already tried the motoshare 2 on Ubuntu?
Sent from my XT875 using xda premium

toddmartin- you're gonna love me...i gotcha
toddmartin said:
I am having same issue. Using Marty OVA in virtual box. works great, no issues w/ samba or USB. Root is successfully run. however.
root checker indicated that I am not rooted and as mentioned above, superuser needs to update the binaries.
" the Superuser binary (su) must be updated
please choose an installation method
recovery mode installation is recommended for HTC devices.
Cancel <> Recovery Install<> Install
hit install
there was an error installing superuser. Please send a log of the error to the developer.
<ok>
wonder if I could replace the superuser.adk file in the /home/guest/share directory with a newer adk file?
could not get post on droidrzr.com on a thread there. ( link not permitted by Noobs )
Marty45714 informed us He posted this here as well. can anyone answer this?
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Ok so using virtual box the ova Root_Bionic_JB_20130501-4 the fourth ubdate of the orginal release. Now i suggest erasing all superuser apps installed your self and anything to do with them. When it's done right, it will appear on it's own and work flawlessly. No uncertianties about it. Then i've posted a screen shot of the commands with notes to help understand easiest. The instant the command to press hardware key or power/or each volume itself is the instant you want to press it. Now the reboot is instantious kinda itself and gotta be noticing phone unless have ungodly long boot up let me know if the screen shot helped what you were asking.

[Q] Need Root access for new upgrade path

New MotoX from sprint.
android version 4.2.2
baseband msm8960pro_bp_2323.020.90.00r
kernel 3.4.42.-xline.
system version 139.14.1
build 13.9.0q2.x-116-mx-17-57-1
i did a fair amount of searching but could not find the proper instructions for obtaining root access for the moto x. Need root access or this device would be a deal breaker.
Can someone point me to a link? I would be much appreciated. Thanks Listers!!!

You must of not even attempted to do any real looking. This forum is not that large for the Moto X and there is plenty of information for you to see.
1) you have a sprint phone so you can unlock the Bootloader, install TWRP, get root no matter the Android version
2) there is a clearly titled post in one of the subforums that will tell you how to get root

BrokenWall said:
You must of not even attempted to do any real looking. This forum is not that large for the Moto X and there is plenty of information for you to see.
1) you have a sprint phone so you can unlock the Bootloader, install TWRP, get root no matter the Android version
2) there is a clearly titled post in one of the subforums that will tell you how to get root
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I did search the web and the forums; I'm sorry. it was a long day, i had just purchased the phone and wanted to make sure i didn't brick it. I have rooted/jailbroken several other devices but wanted to know if the latest ota update would cause a problem for that.
Again, I'm sorry for for the excess forum baggage.
I'll try again.

BrokenWall said:
You must of not even attempted to do any real looking. This forum is not that large for the Moto X and there is plenty of information for you to see.
1) you have a sprint phone so you can unlock the Bootloader, install TWRP, get root no matter the Android version
2) there is a clearly titled post in one of the subforums that will tell you how to get root
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that simple? i have the tmobile version with an unlocked bootloader but i been looking for ways to root it and i have not been able to do it, so you saying that if i install TWRP that would obtain root automatically?

moises1204 said:
that simple? i have the tmobile version with an unlocked bootloader but i been looking for ways to root it and i have not been able to do it, so you saying that if i install TWRP that would obtain root automatically?
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I read where a previous method of rooting (pwnmoto or whatever) was shut off by the latest ota.
Please help a new guy out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2487635
this thread is what I found. Please advise if this is the correct method. Thank you all, and sorry if I'm wanting to be sure I'm doing the right thing.
Thanks listers...I do very much appreciate any help.

bullpen7979 said:
I read where a previous method of rooting (pwnmoto or whatever) was shut off by the latest ota.
Please help a new guy out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2487635
this thread is what I found. Please advise if this is the correct method. Thank you all, and sorry if I'm wanting to be sure I'm doing the right thing.
Thanks listers...I do very much appreciate any help.
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ownmoto or whatever?? um... ok... I can tell you haven't browsed the different sections for the Moto X here or you would have seen in the "Moto X Original Android Development" section that its called "PwnMyMoto"
Brokenwall gave you a way to root your sprint device, no matter what stock rom you're running... OTA updates or not. Granted unlocking your bootloader voids your warranty... and he didn't give you a 100% newbie step by step guide which it now seems you were really looking for.
Also in the Moto X Original Android Development is a thread titiled... "[Root] RockMyMoto (Yes, even the first OTA)" which is pretty obvious as to what it is for. If you took a few minutes to read it, you'd know it is what you want if you don't want to unlock your bootloader. Its not a very long thead (141 posts currently) so it wont take long to read. The original post contains everything you need, except how to make sure you have Telnet as part of your Windows install (there are posts in that thread later that say what to do to enable/install Telnet as a Windows Feature inside Add/Remove Programs).
Sorry, if I come across as harsh. I know you just want to root without screwing up your phone, and I get that. But I'm afraid if you haven't been able to look around and find this stuff, you'll likely not be able to properly follow and understand the instructions and will therefore stand a good chance of messing up your phone!!!

OK. I am sorry about the post. I know I'm at the mercy of the forum here.
I was up till 2 am getting this phone unlocked, but when I installed wireless tether it said I was not rooted.
Had to install sdk, get a long unlock code, etc.
Evidently I have yet to attain root access, but its not as though I"m not trying.
I have done rooted/jailbroken a couple times before with my htc evo/iphone, and am fairly computer literate, but I just can't hash this out.
I read this thread, but could not quite make out the steps. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509590., The video has no sound, which makes it a little more difficult.
I have also read about an OTA on 10/7 or so that patched some of the root methods, so, at the risk of getting put in my place, I'm humbly coming to ask for assistance in helping get my phone rooted.
Again, I'm sorry for being stuck here and having to ask the question. I would greatly appreciate the assistance of someone who can speak to my specific situation.
Thank you and regards to those who can help.
Bull

bullpen7979 said:
OK. I am sorry about the post. I know I'm at the mercy of the forum here.
I was up till 2 am getting this phone unlocked, but when I installed wireless tether it said I was not rooted.
Had to install sdk, get a long unlock code, etc.
Evidently I have yet to attain root access, but its not as though I"m not trying.
I have done rooted/jailbroken a couple times before with my htc evo/iphone, and am fairly computer literate, but I just can't hash this out.
I read this thread, but could not quite make out the steps. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509590., The video has no sound, which makes it a little more difficult.
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The steps taken in the video are exactly explained in the post.
There are a few assumptions.. 1. Your PC has telnet on it, or you know how to install it. (there is a link further in that thread which Windows users can follow. 2. You have ADB Driver and Platform tools from the AndroidSDK installed correctly on your PC, and Moto drivers installed. Again, there are threads on this already, so you'll have to find/follow them.
You could also try to follow this post -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47067076 however, it uses puttytel.exe instead of Telnet so it will look a little different. It too assumes you've properly installed ADB Driver and Platform Toos from the Android SDK along with the Moto drivers.
Another option is the "Tool Kit" -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477132 which is an "all in one" type tool that should set things up and help you too. I've not used it, but it appears to be a complete package including ADB and the drivers. Only thing would be if you want to use "Flash back to stock" you need to download the ROM file separately.
bullpen7979 said:
I have also read about an OTA on 10/7 or so that patched some of the root methods, so, at the risk of getting put in my place, I'm humbly coming to ask for assistance in helping get my phone rooted.
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Right now, there is the rom the phone shipped with. If you have that, you use PwnMyMoto process to root it. The "camera update" that was pushed over the air. If you have that, you use RockMyMoto. And as of yesterday, if you have Verizon X, there is KitKat which can not be rooted (unless your carrier allows you to unlock your phone's boot loader)

I tried the puttytel thread, but I kept getting a timeout like this guy did:
"After running cydia impactor I see a popup for a second that says payload and then it disappears. I then try to run puttytel but it just keeps failing with "network error: connection timed out"." That was the error I kept getting.
The other problem I am currently having is not being able to push files to my device because it doesnt show up as a drive letter. I have usb debugging enabled.
I would about paypal someone for some help at this point. Bummed. I just want my device rooted so I can send my daughter the one I promised here.

I tried the puttytel thread, but I kept getting a timeout like this guy did:
"After running cydia impactor I see a popup for a second that says payload and then it disappears. I then try to run puttytel but it just keeps failing with "network error: connection timed out"." That was the error I kept getting.
The other problem I am currently having is not being able to push files to my device because it doesnt show up as a drive letter. I have usb debugging enabled.
I would about paypal someone for some help at this point. I'd even accept remote assistance via logmein. Pretty bummed. I just want my device rooted so I can send my daughter the one I promised her.
I have no idea why this process has been so difficult this time around. I have rooted, downloaded & installed custom roms, etc.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2536200

Please help. I am out of ideas.
jayboyyyy said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2536200
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Isn't this just for the verizon model?
Guys/Gals/Developers.... I'm really stuck, and would greatly appreciate some help.
I have read thru the threads.
I can't get my phone to be recognized as a drive. Only a camera. Yes, I installed usb mass storage from play store. No luck.
I can't push files to the root of the device.
I have to believe it can be done, I'm just not getting it for some reason.
I'm really sorry, as I have said in multiple posts. Like I said, I would paypal you a reasonable sum if one of the more experienced people out there want to remote in via logmein and help. I know that sounds lame. I'm normally a guy who likes to research it all himself and do this.
I'm normally the guy who helps other people with this stuff, but I just can't hash this out. I've spent the last three days of my free time reading, researching, trying to get the thing to connect as a drive so I can push files to it and run them via adb.. Even went so far as considering buying a wireless adapter to put the files there wirelessly. I'd try now but I'm exhausted. If you can help, please PM me and we can work out something if you are willing. Thanks to those who have suggested methods. I do appreciate your help. I have tried them all except the last kit kat method which I thought was just for Verizon. I'm with sprint. As tired as I am, I'm afraid to brick the thing. I'm very close to asking for a method to restore the phone and take it back. I really wanted wireless tether. I need it for work and to run the ipad on occasion. Sorry this was a long post/thread.
Sorry I'm not as quick as the rest of you. Just want a rooted phone and can't seem to get it done this time on my own.
Any suggestions?

bullpen7979 said:
Isn't this just for the verizon model?
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No. That will work for any Moto X Developer Edition or Carrier edition with an unlocked boot loader. So T-Mobile, Sprint, etc.. If you can unlock your boot loader via -> https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth then you can root via this process.
bullpen7979 said:
Guys/Gals/Developers.... I'm really stuck, and would greatly appreciate some help.
I have read thru the threads.
I can't get my phone to be recognized as a drive. Only a camera. Yes, I installed usb mass storage from play store. No luck.
I can't push files to the root of the device.
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To get your phone to show up in windows as Drive Letter, needs USB Mass Storage mode. Ok, You've installed an app for that, fine... but 1. I'm not aware of that app working, and more importantly, 2. I am not aware of any root method in these forums that requires your phone to show as a "drive letter" to work. So I couldn't even begin to suggest what you are doing wrong.
What instructions are you actually trying to follow? Why not post questions on it in that particular thread, including exact details of what you've done, what you see on your phone, any/all errors or messages, etc.???
And if what you really want to do is tether with sprint, I hope you have checked out threads with suggestions on hacks/ways that work to tether on Sprint Moto X before you worry about rooting.
For example, if you want to remain non-rooted, FoxFi could possibly be an option. As I am a Verizon user and haven't used it, I can't say how well it works for Spint, and I can't say how well it works for Verizon, just that Verizon KK users say it doesn't work, but it did with the JB/4.2.2 roms..

KidJoe;
Thanks for your patience. I'm sorry about all of this. I have tried to be as clear as I can be, but I will redouble my efforts. Let me read clearly that last link and I will post back. I do want root access for all the other cool things it enables too, so I'm determined to get it right. I just want to be careful not to miss something and turn a decent phone into a paperweight.
That link you referenced is exactly what I used to unlock. When I reboot the phone, I get a white screen with a red exclamation point that says bootloader unlocked.

Fox Fi is a no go
Update. Just tried Foxfi. Does not work with current status of unlock but not rooted. I need root, but how does one copy files to the device via usb? I remember there being a setting.
I opened a new thread on this subject. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47740046#post47740046
Hope that's not against the rules. I really thing the failure is related to my inability (or ignorance of how to ) push files to the device.
Good gravy. This has eaten up WAY too much time.
Apparently its a mixed bag over at sprint. Some can some can't.
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=234246

Question's Regarding 5.3.2

So every post seems to address only 5.3.1. I can't find a SINGLE thing about rooting the 2015 5th gen Fire that runs 5.3.2. Am I the only person not able to find answers? King Root cant unlock, I can't figure out a solution and I can't stand the interface.
Purchased this for my son and he won't even use it. And He's 5. If I can't load CM or another custom rom soon I'm gonna smash it. At least I will feel better afterwards! I HATE that companies do this. Please help!

you can downgrade and then you can root

Ubuntu_noobi said:
So every post seems to address only 5.3.1. I can't find a SINGLE thing about rooting the 2015 5th gen Fire that runs 5.3.2. Am I the only person not able to find answers? King Root cant unlock, I can't figure out a solution and I can't stand the interface.
Purchased this for my son and he won't even use it. And He's 5. If I can't load CM or another custom rom soon I'm gonna smash it. At least I will feel better afterwards! I HATE that companies do this. Please help!
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Fair bit of info on 5.3.2; sorry you couldn't find it. As for rooting simply roll back to 5.3.1 and then use the SuperTool to root (do not use Kingroot directly). See forum index in General thread for additional detail.

Davey126 said:
Fair bit of info on 5.3.2; sorry you couldn't find it. As for rooting simply roll back to 5.3.1 and then use the SuperTool to root (do not use Kingroot directly). See forum index in General thread for additional detail.
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I've tried moving the factory update after downloading it to the DCIM, when trying to update, it states that you can't update because it's an older version of the os. Is it required to side load?

Ubuntu_noobi said:
I've tried moving the factory update after downloading it to the DCIM, when trying to update, it states that you can't update because it's an older version of the os.
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Wrong procedure. See forum index for details, in particular the first two posts in this thread.
Ubuntu_noobi said:
Is it required to side load?
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Yes.

So glad I found this post. Researching the same thing. Trying it out now
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yungskeeme01 said:
So glad I found this post. Researching the same thing. Trying it out now
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Any new info to share? I still haven't been able to figure it out

Ubuntu_noobi said:
Any new info to share? I still haven't been able to figure it out
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What exactly are you trying to "figure out"? Responded a few days ago with downgrade/rollback links which includes a step-by-step video.

Ubuntu_noobi said:
Any new info to share? I still haven't been able to figure it out
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I downgraded to 5.3.1. Rooted the fire and am now running CM 12.1. Very smooth!. Took me a awhile to get since I have a Mac but got it working. Used Rootjunky's YouTube video on how to restore. That's how I downgraded. Then used his Supertool for Mac and rooted. I then installed Flashfire and put CM12 on the tablet.
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Ubuntu_noobi said:
Any new info to share? I still haven't been able to figure it out
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Davey126 already answered it here.
Davey126 said:
Fair bit of info on 5.3.2; sorry you couldn't find it. As for rooting simply roll back to 5.3.1 and then use the SuperTool to root (do not use Kingroot directly). See forum index in General thread for additional detail.
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I also bought the Fire a few days ago and I dealt with 5.3.2 by first using "adb sideload" to go to 5.3.1 and then rooting it.
I had problems with rooting via the SuperTool, as it used an old KingRoot version and after several rooting attempts when it finally succeeded, the SuperTool had problems removing KingRoot and replacing it with SuperSu (this error made it lose root somehow). Same problem occurred when I used the SuperTool but with the newest KingRoot, so instead of using the SuperTool I used newest KingRoot directly and decided not to replace it with SuperSu.
All is fine now, lockscreen ads are gone, AdAway is installed and OTA updates blocked.

amerkiller1995 said:
I used KingRoot directly and decided not to replace it with SuperSu.
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FYI - recognize KingRoot is a shady tool whose authors have uncertain motivations. Even after rooting it continues to send/receive information without apparent reason. One has to question any app that is offered for free and aggressively resists being uninstalled. Given the unknowns I would reconsider the decision to retain KingRoot/KingUser.

amerkiller1995 said:
Davey126 already answered it here.
I also bought the Fire a few days ago and I dealt with 5.3.2 by first using "adb sideload" to go to 5.3.1 and then rooting it.
I had problems with rooting via the SuperTool, as it used an old KingRoot version and after several rooting attempts when it finally succeeded, the SuperTool had problems removing KingRoot and replacing it with SuperSu (this error made it lose root somehow). Same problem occurred when I used the SuperTool but with the newest KingRoot, so instead of using the SuperTool I used newest KingRoot directly and decided not to replace it with SuperSu.
All is fine now, lockscreen ads are gone, AdAway is installed and OTA updates blocked.
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I had the issue with King Root as well. What I did was download a newer version and replaced in the SuperTool folder
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Davey126 said:
FYI - recognize KingRoot is a shady tool whose authors have uncertain motivations. Even after rooting it continues to send/receive information without apparent reason. One has to question any app that is offered for free and aggressively resists being uninstalled. Given the unknowns I would reconsider the decision to retain KingRoot/KingUser.
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Yes, it certainly gives that vibe. However my Fire is just a portable anime player, it's offline and there's nothing on it except anime, so I'll let it be.
BTW KingRoot flagged AdAway as a "risk"
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I had the issue with King Root as well. What I did was download a newer version and replaced in the SuperTool folder
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I've done that, it's in the post you quoted. Still, in the replacing step, the SuperTool deletes KingRoot, but then fails to put SuperSu in its place, it prints some errors to the console like ERR_WRITE or something.

amerkiller1995 said:
Yes, it certainly gives that vibe. However my Fire is just a portable anime player, it's offline and there's nothing on it except anime, so I'll let it be.
BTW KingRoot flagged AdAway as a "risk"
I've done that, it's in the post you quoted. Still, in the replacing step, the SuperTool deletes KingRoot, but then fails to put SuperSu in its place, it prints some errors to the console like ERR_WRITE or something.
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Sorry if I misread it. I used the version included and KingRoot so I replaced it in Supertool and re-rooted using SuperTool and it removed it no issues. Whatever though, it got rooted one way or another!
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Awesome I will try again tonight

Solved!!! Finally!!!
Ubuntu_noobi said:
So every post seems to address only 5.3.1. I can't find a SINGLE thing about rooting the 2015 5th gen Fire that runs 5.3.2. Am I the only person not able to find answers? King Root cant unlock, I can't figure out a solution and I can't stand the interface.
Purchased this for my son and he won't even use it. And He's 5. If I can't load CM or another custom rom soon I'm gonna smash it. At least I will feel better afterwards! I HATE that companies do this. Please help!
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TL;DR: THERE IS NO "One click" OPTION THAT WORKS. I DOWNLOADED ALL OF THEM. IVE TRIED EVERY DAMN ONE OF THEM. STOP SEARCHING. You MUST side load the system with the code necessary to make it capable to root. Downgrading to 5.3.1 was the secret, instead of trying to root on 5.3.2. I made a glossary of the confusing terminology, made a step by step walk through for noobs
SO, having felt encouraged by the response by people on this forum, last night I decided it was worth another try.
I finally figured out what I was missing. IF YOU CURRENTLY HAVE FIREOS VERSION 5.3.1, YOU MUST ROLL IT BACK THRU SIDE LOADING see here: SIDELOAD TUTORIAL
I tried to load straight onto the system disk and caused all kinds of problems. Once I followed that step by step, which TBH, was a lot of pausing and rewinding. I am not familiar with many terms so I made this...
Android Common Terms:
Boot: A sequence of commands written into the underlying software that tells the device what order to operate in
Bootloader: See Previous (this is the sequence I referenced previously)
Locked Bootloader: Think of trying to edit a PDF you did not create... Exactly.
ADB Fastboot: THIS IS A PROGRAM... NOT A FUNCTION. I still get this confused, thinking that it is a quicker version of the boot sequence... IT IS NOT. ADB Fastboot is a program that gives access to the base software code making it reachable to use certain sections of to "edit the PDF".
Custom Recovery: It is the new version of Windows 10 you were updating to when your crappy laptop you JUST bought came with Windows 8.1. Essentially.
Root: Remember the PDF? Well, if you work somewhere that has Adobe Reader, and you see the window on the right pop up with the ability to login to Adobe Online or whatever? Well, rooting is having login credentials to ACTUALLY edit that damn PDF.
Flash: Download from the internet, and install on your hard drive, or SD Card. It actually means you erase whatever is there completely first, then install. It's two steps, which is why they don't just call it installing... I think.
Partition: Have you ever worked in an office with cubicles? Exactly. A partition is a wall that you put up to segregate files, or programs, or whatever.
SuperTool: Based in your computer. RootJunky Went through and basically made one tool that has everything you need for rooting. PROBLEM IS THAT HE TELLS YOU TO DOWNLOAD ADB FASTBOOT AND DRIVERS AND A BUNCH OF STUFF, then says, or you can just download the SuperTool, which means, I now HAVE TWO OF ALL OF IT, and then I spend the next three hours trying to figure out if its the "custom rom that I sideload into the TWRP, or if the Flashed version of the bootloader gets added to the recovery image, but not before the drivers are flashed into the fastboot."
While this doesn't cover a lot, I hope that people in this community understand what it is like for someone unversed in the lingo to grasp exactly what is going on. I don't think we should speak like idiots and elementary students, but I also think we lose a ton of people that may have something to offer one day because they got frustrated with the terminology and gave up. Luckily, I stuck it out and gave it one last chance and I got it.
So, once I downgraded from 5.3.2 to 5.3.1, I went about trying to root the device, which was also a little confusing.
Step 1: Downgrade if you have 5.3.2 to 5.3.1
Step 2: Enable ADB and Debug in the Settings
Step 3: Hold down the Power and Volume Down button, release the power button once the device starts to reboot and a menu will popup
Step 4: Use the volume keys to access the first selection. This is how you access the "sideloading".
Step 5: Open the SuperTool, click on the batch file which should say Auto... because calling it SuperTool would be confusing
Step 6: follow the super easy instructions. Honestly.
It will walk you through the process and get you to the part about Kingroot and FlashFire and eventually root the device.
I honestly hope this helps someone. God knows it would have saved me from spending approximately 30 hours trying to figure this out.