Hello everyone, first post I'm an android noob, I love gadgets and cell phones, but am not computer savvy. I am almost ready to flash my first ROM onto my captivate, which is currently running android 2.1 update 1, OCLF v2.2+ Donate Version, autokiller, autostarts, and has touchwiz and Launcher Pro Plus (launcher pro is the default skin), but before I flash to a new ROM, I want to make sure I'm doing everything right to minimize the possibility of bricking my captivate. I think that is all the relevant information but let me know if there is anything else I should mention... I LOVE LOVE LOVE my captivate and I'm a teacher with more debt than income so I would really be quite sad if it bricks.
OK here's the rundown!
Clockwork Recovery
I don't really understand the different versions of Clockwork Recovery, but I know that I have *some* form/version of it on my captivate. I rooted using RyanZA's OCLF (MAJOR props to him; his app made me me fall in love with my phone/android in general) which I *think* made me get Clockwork Recovery, or maybe it was busybox. About a month ago I downloaded Titanium Backup, which I also *think* made me download Clockwork Recovery. Then I deleted TB about an hour later because at the time I didn't have any use for it (although I guess perhaps now I should get it back). Most recently I downloaded the "pro" or "full" or something version of ROM Manager (what a great app, I'm surprised something so essential isn't already part of android. I forked out the 5 bucks because, like RyanZA, the dev deserves the props if you can afford it, but nothing other than "free stuff" appears in the "download ROM" section, which sounded super convenient, and was supposed to come with the paid version... anyone know why this might be?), and I know for sure that I installed/downloaded/? Clockwork onto my phone through the ROM manager because I just did it like two days ago. --> OK I Just went into ROM Manager to look at it again and it says "current recovery: Clockwork Mod 2.5.1.2"
Anyway the reason I'm asking about this is because I remember reading a couple of different articles that said something like "make sure you have the right version of clockwork before you flash to a new ROM or you will brick your phone and you will never be happy and nobody will ever love you." However I might be thinking about busybox? which brings me to:
Busybox
To be honest I never even really understood what exactly busybox is but I think I read somewhere that, like clockwork, it said something like "make sure you have the right version of clockwork before you flash to a new ROM or you will brick your phone." I do not know if I have it on my phone or not, much less what version.
OCLF v2.2 Donate
So I am going to undo the lagfix, but not undo the root that came with the OCLF app that came with the app because I need it to stay rooted. Is this a problem? I switched the scheduler back to "cfq" because that was what it used to be, but I used "deadline" before I started planning the ROM flash. Fun fact: I have no clue what any of that means, but boy did it make things speedy
Which ROM?
I know this has been asked before and I know it comes down to preference, but given the information about the current state of my phone, is there a particular ROM that you would suggest? If that doesn't make sense, what I mean to say is, does anyone know if, for example, people who have at any point used a lag fix are predisposed to bricking their phone during a flash, or if people who run Clockwork Recovery can't use ROM x?
The biggest things that concern me are 1. stability 2. that the ROM is still supported 3. froyo 4. easy sync/integration with everything google (mail, maps, calendar, etc). I like a clean, elegant look and feel, but I imagine I can skin whatever ROM to my liking. I am leaning towards Cognition, simply because I seem to read that one the most often.
Thank you for any help, it is greatly appreciated
Any other advice out there or links to good guides would be great too
oh hey sorry one more thing, as long as I'm asking noob questions: I know that live wallpapers drain battery but I love the earth one with a black background, looks so damn good. Anyway does it drain the battery CONSTANTLY as long as it's the wallpaper or only when you're on the home screens and can actually see it?
thanks again guys!
Hello everyone, first post I'm an android noob, I love gadgets and cell phones, but am not computer savvy.
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Welcome! As has been said, come on in, the water's fine!
I LOVE LOVE LOVE my captivate and I'm a teacher with more debt than income so I would really be quite sad if it bricks.
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Don't be afraid of your phone. Just don't be stupid about it. READ EVERYTHING.
Clockwork Recovery
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ClockworkMod comes to you via Rom Manager. The reason you don't see the list of downloadable roms is.... they ain't none for that list. There are a few Roms, but they are not subscribed (or whatever) to that service. You gotta get 'em here from their respective threads in xda.
Busybox
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Tibu will give you the option to download and install the latest busybox. It'll give you a button at the bottom that says Problems? That button will put the latest on your phone.
OCLF v2.2 Donate
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You'll need the root actually to get anywhere at first so yeah, disable the lagfix but leave the root.
Which ROM?
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Try them all! They all have their plus and minus. I like cognition, but I've tried Deviant and CDE too. Only way to know what ya like best is take a bite of each.
Any other advice out there or links to good guides would be great too
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Make sure you can do the 3 button thing to get into recovery or download modes. As far as I know that's the only way you can really 'brick" your phone. Some cappy's can't do any 3 button combos from power off. This is bad as you can't get out of the loop into recovery. DesignGears has a post about this, with a fix if you have this issue. Find it, Read it, Know it. And stuff.
Get the androidSDK and learn about abd. Sometimes this can get you out of trouble when nothing else can. There are tons of references to it in xda and google will get you a ton of reading material. Beyond a single post in scope to explain that one. Here's a start: http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/tools/adb.html
Familiarize yourself with Odin and Odin One-Click. Not sure where to point you there as I found my info slogging through the cognition beast...err... thread. Pretty sure you can find a couple threads by DesignGears in development that will get you the programs and get you started.
oh hey sorry one more thing, as long as I'm asking noob questions: I know that live wallpapers drain battery but I love the earth one with a black background, looks so damn good. Anyway does it drain the battery CONSTANTLY as long as it's the wallpaper or only when you're on the home screens and can actually see it?
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I dunno that!
OK, well first off, thanks Sulphur. Bummer I can't use ROM Manager to download new ROMs, that would make things even easier.
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Make sure you can do the 3 button thing to get into recovery or download modes. As far as I know that's the only way you can really 'brick" your phone. Some cappy's can't do any 3 button combos from power off. This is bad as you can't get out of the loop into recovery. DesignGears has a post about this, with a fix if you have this issue. Find it, Read it, Know it. And stuff.
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Damn it's a good thing you said that. I just tried it to make sure that I could go into recovery mode... I always assumed that I could...
I seem to be one of those people that can't go into recovery mode using the three button press method. What's worse is that I have a mac so I (think) I can't use odin either.
Does this mean I can't fix my phone is it soft bricks while flashing? I can't take that risk...
*sniff*
people say cognition is so cool too...
Go on the development section. There is a fix for the there button issue and cog roms keep it intact
Sent telepathically using vulcan mind meld app.
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I seem to be one of those people that can't go into recovery mode using the three button press method. What's worse is that I have a mac so I (think) I can't use odin either.
Does this mean I can't fix my phone is it soft bricks while flashing? I can't take that risk...
*sniff*
people say cognition is so cool too...
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Dang. That sucks. Did you look for DesignGears thread on the 3 button issue? There's another one another guy posted but I don't remember who.
No Odin is bad yeah, if you soft brick. You can look at Heimdale (link to it on the Cognition DL page here). But it sounds fairly complicated. Might be fun just to figure it out and seein' as you're on mac it may be your only option. No idea where to send you to learn how to use it tho, just know that it can be used on a Mac.
Good luck to ya!
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Go on the development section. There is a fix for the there button issue and cog roms keep it intact
Sent telepathically using vulcan mind meld app.
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Based on what I read, it seems like I need odin to apply the fix though, right? Thanks though!
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Dang. That sucks. Did you look for DesignGears thread on the 3 button issue? There's another one another guy posted but I don't remember who.
No Odin is bad yeah, if you soft brick. You can look at Heimdale (link to it on the Cognition DL page here). But it sounds fairly complicated. Might be fun just to figure it out and seein' as you're on mac it may be your only option. No idea where to send you to learn how to use it tho, just know that it can be used on a Mac.
Good luck to ya!
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Thanks for pointing that out! It's WAY beyond my modest computer knowledge (I was using Terminal and typing in Unix commands, I'm sure it was all totally amateur, but I felt like such a computer bad-ass ), but now I actually have an option, where before I had none! Thanks!!
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Hi all, I just got my first Android phone (which is obviously the Nexus One) and I've gone through and set up some widgets, got apps, etc. I have a few questions.
Does running multiple widgets kill the battery faster?
(I guess that was really it).
Also, are there any really good getting started with Android guides out there? Maybe some mods you guys recommend (Cyanogen, etc) that really make this thing shine?
Thanks,
T.J.
I will second this topic, also a new user here. How to make that battery last?
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I will second this topic, also a new user here. How to make that battery last?
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http://www.myhangoutonline.com/tutorials/nexus-one
Follow those tutorials, Do #3, then #2, then #1. Enjoy!
depending on the Widgets used. The ones that always update can use a lot of the battery. Tbh though it all depends on what you do with your phone. In addition, searching the forums for what you want to do is the best way of figuring out how you want to pimp out your phone. Gl
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Follow those tutorials, Do #3, then #2, then #1. Enjoy!
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That's great, but too late, I am already rooted on Froyo.
I don't have Froyo yet, I'm on an AT&T N1. I do have a question about trying these different ROMs: what are the chances I'm going to permanently brick my phone? I'd hate to just pay $530 for this thing and then somehow cause it to stop working.
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Hi all, I just got my first Android phone (which is obviously the Nexus One) and I've gone through and set up some widgets, got apps, etc. I have a few questions.
Does running multiple widgets kill the battery faster?
(I guess that was really it).
Also, are there any really good getting started with Android guides out there? Maybe some mods you guys recommend (Cyanogen, etc) that really make this thing shine?
Thanks,
T.J.
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Juice Defender is a great app that is available on the Android Marketplace and is guaranteed to at least double your battery life. If you choose to purchase the full version, you get some advanced features which can lead to even more battery power.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614850
That link will take you to the guide that explains how to go from stock to cyanogen (or desire....personally I like cyanogen) with little effort, just make sure you follow the steps exactly, and read every step twice to ensure you understand it.
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That link will take you to the guide that explains how to go from stock to cyanogen (or desire....personally I like cyanogen) with little effort, just make sure you follow the steps exactly, and read every step twice to ensure you understand it.
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Oh, I can follow steps. I'm just afraid of changing the baseband/radio inadvertently or somesuch, and bricking the phone. Is there a good way to recover from something like that, if it happens?
just got my N1. is there HTC keyboard i can download and use?
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tjsimmons said:
Hi all, I just got my first Android phone (which is obviously the Nexus One) and I've gone through and set up some widgets, got apps, etc. I have a few questions.
Does running multiple widgets kill the battery faster?
(I guess that was really it).
Also, are there any really good getting started with Android guides out there? Maybe some mods you guys recommend (Cyanogen, etc) that really make this thing shine?
Thanks,
T.J.
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u can try this site aswell
http://theunlockr.com/category/howto/android_how_tos/nexus-one-how-tos
just got my N1. is there HTC keyboard i can download and use?
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Yes there is and It's much better than the stock one, but I don't have a link. It's posted here somewhere.
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Oh, I can follow steps. I'm just afraid of changing the baseband/radio inadvertently or somesuch, and bricking the phone. Is there a good way to recover from something like that, if it happens?
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The guide includes the all-important step "Create a NANDROID backup" Should you run into major problems, thanks to your custom recovery, you'll be able to do a nand restore. But as long as you stay away from flashing radios on your phone you should be fine. A lot of people will tell you they aren't worth the risk, and the reward is often marginal, and I tend to agree
Thank You All
I took the plunge this morning and decided to jump in with both feet,and am now running the custom rom Cyanogen 6.0 RC-1 recommended here. This is a blast,and nowhere as difficult as what I thought it would be (believe me though..I was sweating bullets when I hit enter )
Without all the good information here I don't think I would have ever been able to do this myself.
I don't know what to do next,but it seems like everything,including my [email protected]& red haze on my camera is gone too...I am real happy camper now
OK guys..what to do next now. What should I download and install on here since it's a clean slate.
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I don't know what to do next,but it seems like everything,including my [email protected]& red haze on my camera is gone too...I am real happy camper now
OK guys..what to do next now. What should I download and install on here since it's a clean slate.
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Glad we could help -- that's why we're here
Well, don't feel like you NEED to do anything next. But I'll offer a couple general suggestions.
1) Browse around the Themes and Apps section. There are lots of cool themes, apps, mods, etc. that you could add that provide even further customization and additional functionality. Also consider browsing around the Development forum to see if you might like to try any of the other ROMs out for a bit.
2) Think of what else do YOU want your phone to be able to do? Think of some things you'd like to see out of your phone. Then start searching around here, or in the Market, and see if such an app/mod already exists or if someone here is working on it.
Basically, you don't NEED to do anything next, but just know that you can do plenty of exploring here for all kinds of stuff, and you now have the ability to customize further.
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Glad we could help -- that's why we're here
Well, don't feel like you NEED to do anything next. But I'll offer a couple general suggestions.
1) Browse around the Themes and Apps section. There are lots of cool themes, apps, mods, etc. that you could add that provide even further customization and additional functionality. Also consider browsing around the Development forum to see if you might like to try any of the other ROMs out for a bit.
2) Think of what else do YOU want your phone to be able to do? Think of some things you'd like to see out of your phone. Then start searching around here, or in the Market, and see if such an app/mod already exists or if someone here is working on it.
Basically, you don't NEED to do anything next, but just know that you can do plenty of exploring here for all kinds of stuff, and you now have the ability to customize further.
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Thanks..appreciate the advise.
I did manage to download the gapps and flashed that (starting to feel pretty good ) and will check out what you suggested as well. I can't get over how much faster this phone is now and love the os typewriter over the stock one. I only made 20 mistakes with it first time typing on it instead of 200 I usually do with the stock one
I can't wait to show this puppy off tonight at work to the Evo boys...I'm going to have a nice laugh back at them when they see it now,since a bunch of them were putting my "putzy" little Hero down last night. That really was one hell of a motivating factor for me to do this BTW I would love to get that matrix type start up screen on this today...if I can keep me eyes open long enough..(graveyard shift) especially if it will work right,that aught to blow their little minds ehh..
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Mac11700 said:
Thanks..appreciate the advise.
I did manage to download the gapps and flashed that (starting to feel pretty good ) and will check out what you suggested as well. I can't get over how much faster this phone is now and love the os typewriter over the stock one. I only made 20 mistakes with it first time typing on it instead of 200 I usually do with the stock one
I can't wait to show this puppy off tonight at work to the Evo boys...I'm going to have a nice laugh back at them when they see it now,since a bunch of them were putting my "putzy" little Hero down last night. That really was one hell of a motivating factor for me to do this BTW I would love to get that matrix type start up screen on this today...if I can keep me eyes open long enough..(graveyard shift) especially if it will work right,that aught to blow their little minds ehh..
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Couple easy things would be to download a new ADW Launcher theme (just type that into the market search box) and then you can look at other themes. BlackMod and Dark envy are my favorites.
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Couple easy things would be to download a new ADW Launcher theme (just type that into the market search box) and then you can look at other themes. BlackMod and Dark envy are my favorites.
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Thanks...I'll check them out
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Welcome to the Dark Side.....bwahahah.
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Welcome to the Dark Side.....bwahahah.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
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Looks like I'll be doing 3 more hero's for my wife and 2 son's.They all want theirs done now OMG what have I done.....
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which are you using?
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which are you using?
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Cyanogen 6.0 RC-1
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How long did it take? Have you tried it with Bluetooth?
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How long did it take? Have you tried it with Bluetooth?
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Well..since it was my very first time doing any of this,about 1-1/2 -2 hours actually doing it...but about a week of reading and trying to understand it
I still don't have it down pat and am not 100% comfortable doing any of it,but if your wanting to try it sooner or later your going to have to jump in and get your feet wet too..
Yes..the Blue tooth works with my older Platronic's headset very well. That's as much as I have done with it. I don't have any of the external speakers or use it through any radio in the car..sorry.
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There's nothing to really do next because everything is all user preference. I would suggest you download Titanium Backup from the market and backup all your apps+data so you don't lose anything if something goes wrong. Also, do nandroid backups prior to make modifications to your phone. What I did when I first started was just read, read, and read. There's so much to do and the members of XDA are very supportive. Welcome to our world. LOL
Step by step?
So for a newbie, can you post the step-by-step things you did to root and update your phone?
Like people say do nandroid, and I have not a clue where to get that.
Thanks,
Jim
jarome1 said:
So for a newbie, can you post the step-by-step things you did to root and update your phone?
Like people say do nandroid, and I have not a clue where to get that.
Thanks,
Jim
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The search feature and Google are really a good tools to use here and on the web.You will be pleasantly surprised at all of the information you can come up with.
Now..a step by step guide to rooting my phone..No..like I said..I am still not 100% comfortable doing this yet,and I just don't feel I am qualified enough to explain the process to you..sorry
I will give you some good advise though..RESEARCH RESEARCH..and then RESEARCH what you are wanting to do to your phone..before you do anything at all. I spent a whole bunch of hours reading everything from here and elsewhere just trying to get a good idea of what to do before doing anything..and you should too.
1) Figure out what exactly you want from your phone and decide then before you do anything.
2) Take a look at all of the different Rom's that are available and what each offer you, and while your looking at them and reading about them you should be looking at all of the issues each have and decide if you can live with them before you do anything.
3) Use the search feature here and Google. You'll have hundreds of hours of reading at your finger tips to digest. Sure..you'll have more questions then answers right off the bat,but keeping researching and you will most likely find enough stuff to help you understand the process enough to jump in eventually.
It really isn't difficult to root you phone anymore nor is it difficult to do a nandroid back up but you need to put forth some effort to have a basic understanding of what you are wanting to do and what all the terminology means.. Sorry if this sounds condescending to you, I'm not trying to be in any way, but this is just some friendly advise from one newbie to another.
4) Once you got a good idea of what you would like to try,and a basic idea of what the terminology means, then get comfortable hooking your phone up to the computer and see what happens on it.Look up here or elsewhere what it means to do a nandroid back up..and also backing up a sd card to your computer..Look at what it means to wipe the data and making a partition on your sd card. Once your familiar with all of this...then go look at the universal 1 click method to root your phone and then also look at the guide to rooting your phone via the a terminal that is posted on this forum and what has been said about both of them. See what your comfortable with. Now once you done all of this.. go look the instructions each of the chef's give with their Roms, and see if it starts making sense to you or not. You will need to follow these instructions word for word to make it work right the first time you try this....same for using the long way to root via a terminal too..
If you do your homework and still can't figure out what it all means..then in all reality you really shouldn't try it..at least not till you at least understand it..This is how I did it..and my suggestion to you is to do the same. I know the terminology is strange and it may seem overwhelming at first..but if you spend enough time researching it,it will help you in the long run.
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Well said, Mac.
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Cyanogen 6.0 RC-1
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You are now on the slippery slope of obsessive tweaking!
I was just like you...sweating over taking the plunge. But once I put my toes in the water, it was all in all the way!
I started with CM6 RC1...after a couple weeks, I flashed CM nightly 9/7 and saw improvement. Just yesterday I flashed Darc's #14 kernel. AWESOME... more speed....more zippiness. I LOVE my Hero
Don't load up a bunch of crap. You don't need task killers and such. I did pop #2 for SetCPU and run my Hero very nicely at 729mhz. Can you say "zing"?
Enjoy your phone, and say "Take that, Sprint!"
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So for a newbie, can you post the step-by-step things you did to root and update your phone?
Like people say do nandroid, and I have not a clue where to get that.
Thanks,
Jim
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This is what I used to get started...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
Okay call my adventurous or maybe stupid but could someone tell me if there is a thread that can help me with my issue.
I tried loading the AT&T Rom on my Bell I9000, thought it would be cool to try, but now I cannot get into download mode. I have been reading some threads and I guess loading the Rom has changed the three button configuration, then to add insult to injury when I plug in the phone to try and use adb it kills the USB connection and I cannot get into download mode this way either! Looks like I have a matching set of SGS bricks for a Christmas gift for someone!
Thanks in advance for anyone who might have a solution!!
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Okay call my adventurous or maybe stupid but could someone tell me if there is a thread that can help me with my issue.
I tried loading the AT&T Rom on my Bell I9000, thought it would be cool to try, but now I cannot get into download mode. I have been reading some threads and I guess loading the Rom has changed the three button configuration, then to add insult to injury when I plug in the phone to try and use adb it kills the USB connection and I cannot get into download mode this way either! Looks like I have a matching set of SGS bricks for a Christmas gift for someone!
Thanks in advance for anyone who might have a solution!!
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Are you talking about the Verizon Fascinate or AT&T Captivate? There is no "AT&T Fascinate."
Sorry dude, that's a tough situation. Not to be rude, but why the heck would you be the first one to try this? It's incredibly risky flashing a ROM from a different device without knowing what will happen first. IMO the quantity and quality of I9000 ROMs is better anyway.
Hey,
Sorry for the confusion it is the AT&T Captivate Froyo Rom, thought it would be better then all of the European Rom's that I was flashing but I guess.......I WAS WRONG!!!
Flashing a captivate ROM onto SGS is never a good idea. Bad things happen.
if all else fails, you can make a usb jig that triggers download mode. theres a few threads on it around here somewhere.
actually here it is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819551
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Flashing a captivate ROM onto SGS is never a good idea. Bad things happen.
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Amen. See Exhibit A =(
I think this is one of many side affects of the "consumerization of XDA-Developers." We have users without adequate knowledge trying things that they never should.
Well I guess this is the reason that I have moved away from Android based phones! There is a great deal of room to interpret the information that many experienced users take for granted and unfortunately the end result for a newbie is only frustration and cost!
One Android User Down!!
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Well I guess this is the reason that I have moved away from Android based phones! There is a great deal of room to interpret the information that many experienced users take for granted and unfortunately the end result for a newbie is only frustration and cost!
One Android User Down!!
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Sorry, but that just plain common sense. You don't flash symbian on iphone. Captivate is a different phone.
That said - your not actually ****ed. Just go to google and find out captivate download button configuration. It was something like vol up, vol down power. And flash normal firmware.
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information that many experienced users take for granted and unfortunately the end result for a newbie is only frustration and cost!
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All experienced users started at the same stage as you.
Except we READ the forums, asked QUESTIONS and gained knowledge.
Then when we were SURE, we flashed our first firmware.
OK...Power off the phone completely...hold down BOTH volume buttons and plug the USB cable in. DO NOT touch the power button. You should go right into download mode.
Hi,
Just wanted to give an update to my situation, and I followed the advice about the usb jig and to my big smiling face, success, reflashed a new firmware and my SGS is ALIVE once more!!!!!
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Hi,
I own a Captivate on Rogers (Canada).
I had the ROM Firefly 2.6 (or 2.4) and decided to change to something quicker or at least different.
I decided to put Cyanogen 7 on it, because many people told me to.
I succeeded in installing Cyanogen and it worked great, easy to use, fast, ultra fast reboot, nice looking... but not all the software I was looking for.
So I decided to change again to a JVQ SIMPLY.
Put it on the SD, move it to sdcard via Astro under Cyanogen and reboot in recovery mode to install update from sdcard.
It wrote that it was ok, and needed to reboot.
Now the only thing I have is "booting" from
- the very first screen with Galaxy S I9000 on it to
- a second one with Galaxy S Cyanogen(mod)
I can access the screen with the little android guy in the public works sign, yellow, with Downloading... and Do not turn off Target!!! (did it trying hard reset).
I couldn't reboot with 3 buttons (tested many methods), the one with Odin, I never ever succeeded with that one, and it continues changing from a screen to another without stopping but if I remove the battery of course.
What can I do from there?
Thank you for your help... again...
Just for clarification, did you do the Odin One-Click to stock? If you can get to the download screen (the yellow sign / "Do not turn off target" screen), you should be able to flash back to stock.
I tried the Odin 1-click, but I think that it won't work right now because I can't access the administrator rights (from work).
I must try from home tonight.
Will it remove everything like the fact it is root?
Thank you for your answer by the way.
The lack of admin rights is very possibly why it won't work. There's also the chance that without admin rights, you're not able to install the samsung drivers. Either way, waiting until you get home sounds like a good idea.
You might be able to do the Heimdall one-click without admin rights, but it would probably be wise to read up on that one first as it's in Beta right now.
The one-click to stock will put your phone in the state it came out of the box, but leave all your personal files on the phone. You will have Eclair 2.1, unrooted, straight as it came from (in your case) Rogers. Any pictures, music, etc you saved on your internal sd card (not the microSD) will still be there, but you'll have to re-root and reinstall any rom you want.
Ok, so I tried different Odin (one click) I found here, and the last one, from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126704&highlight=odin
I flashed the PIT only, because I didnùt know what to put where... bad idea, now my phone doesn't switch on.
Soween said:
Ok, so I tried different Odin (one click) I found here, and the last one, from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126704&highlight=odin
I flashed the PIT only, because I didnùt know what to put where... bad idea, now my phone doesn't switch on.
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Uh oh. Does your phone show any signs of life at all? Any lights come on, buzzers buzz, whistles whistle, etc?
No, nothing.
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No, nothing.
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Sorry to have to tell you this, but it looks like you might have fully bricked yourself.
If you are still under warranty, you can try to send it in for warranty service. If not, or if you aren't comfortable taking that route, look for a member named connexion2005 (or mobiletechvideos on google), who can do JTAG service for you for $50.
The JTAG thing is the special cable made from special resistor, right?
Or do you mean it is hard break and only expert can do something?
Thank you very much for your help and your support.
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The JTAG thing is the special cable made from special resistor, right?
Or do you mean it is hard break and only expert can do something?
Thank you very much for your help and your support.
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You're thinking of a Jig, which is a set of resistors that kicks the phone into download mode.
Unfortunately, you need JTAG, which is a special service that rewrites the bootloaders to the phone so that it can boot normally. That's something that you either need to be fairly knowledgeable about electronics to do yourself, or something you'll need to send in (to Samsung or mobiletechvideos) to have fixed.
Yeah I thought of a jig...
Ok, I will try the warranty, perhaps it is so much messed up, they won't find anything...
I will let you know.
See you.
Soween said:
Yeah I thought of a jig...
Ok, I will try the warranty, perhaps it is so much messed up, they won't find anything...
I will let you know.
See you.
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Good luck - hopefully your next time around with custom Roms will go better.
I did many, many things with WInMo and never encountered any brick (sometimes I was close to the cliff, but never fell).
Since I have this Captivate, I not sure to really like it, I am fond of android either, and I don't take enough time to read carefully each post...
I think it is time for me to take an iphone...
Although you could do that, I think you'll find if you give yourself a little time with Android you'll come to really like it.
Don't get me wrong - the iPhone is a well made product. But it is one thing, and only one thing. Android devices can really be anything you want.
But that's my opnion. Do with it what you will.
People like you are gold, taking time to help newbie with the always same questions, don't selling android is the best (other are selling ios is the best), ...
I'll see what kind of hone I can find, because the Atrix was a cool phone I liked, and I always liked HTC (qtek before)...
Apple is expensive!!!
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People like you are gold, taking time to help newbie with the always same questions, don't selling android is the best (other are selling ios is the best), ...
I'll see what kind of hone I can find, because the Atrix was a cool phone I liked, and I always liked HTC (qtek before)...
Apple is expensive!!!
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Thank you. I'm just trying to repay the many favors everyone else here on the board has done for me in the past.
Definitely look around - if the Captivate isn't working for you, there's plenty of Android phones that are every bit as good. I've also had good luck with HTC phones in the past, and Motorola's not bad, either.
And yes, Apple is expensive. Can't argue with you on that one.
This might be stupid question but, is your battery charged ?
Hi,
aww.W.T.F, I hope so yes... it was on the usb for hours... you put me a doubt... I need to check now!!
I asked Rogers for warranty, they charge $35 for an exchange, and 5 days to wait, I think this is a little bit too much. But I will do it.
What I discussed with a guy is that I will finish my current subscription with Rogers and take the HTC Sensation with Virgin... Another try with android, to follow jmtheiss.
I will continue to let you know about how it goes.
If my profile is closed tonight, this will be because I will be too ashamed because I had an empty battery...
P.S. Ok it is not the battery... I'm waiting for my new one and will send this one to warranty (I'll see what they can find or not...).
Someone PLEASE give me some good proper settings for the SetCPU. I have VEGAn TAB Gingerbread Edition 7.0. Kernal Version says: 2.6.32.36-cyanogenmod [email protected] #1.
I know someone on here is using this...so let me know how to set this up using my G Tablet.
I want faster performance at the same time...extending battery life a little. Either way..nothing to make it overheat tho.
Let me even know the specs i posted will work with SetCPU. Thanks.
Performance and battery life are opposites. You have to underclock to get more battery life.
Oh.. and it's a kernel not kernal.
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Typo in my spelling. But theres a middle where you can set to get a little of each. Anyway...anyone??????????
Not gonna happen. If you do anything to make it faster it increases power consumption, period. The On Demand governor, default, does the best job of letting you go 100% when you want and drop to a low freq when you are idle.
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Not gonna happen. If you do anything to make it faster it increases power consumption, period. The On Demand governor, default, does the best job of letting you go 100% when you want and drop to a low freq when you are idle.
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Ok..are you using this? Would you know any good settings for this GTab? I dont wanna do anything and overheat it or put the wrong settings and stuff. You know. Any bad side effects?
Edit: Dumb question but...if i use this plugged in alot...in my room..then all the power it uses would be for the good right? can't kill the battery then.
Edit 2: One more question..if there was something you didnt like about it...does just uninstalling it put your phone right back to how it was? Or a little more tweaking you need to do before you uninstall?
DJR0D said:
Ok..are you using this? Would you know any good settings for this GTab? I dont wanna do anything and overheat it or put the wrong settings and stuff. You know. Any bad side effects?
Edit: Dumb question but...if i use this plugged in alot...in my room..then all the power it uses would be for the good right? can't kill the battery then.
Edit 2: One more question..if there was something you didnt like about it...does just uninstalling it put your phone right back to how it was? Or a little more tweaking you need to do before you uninstall?
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As I recall, running VEGan 7.0 I used SetCPU no higher than 1.2 w/interactive. No noticeable drag or heat. Perhsoot builds great kernels but I seem to recall using Blades or Clemsyn but could be wrong. Unless you find a way to clock so far out of parameters (voltage/speed) I seriously doubt you can irreparably fry your GTab. Using the wrong power adapter would be more likely to nuke a tab. IMO.
Using plugged in logically it's a wash as you use what you charge. I'm no expert in electronics. Others may have more input here.
I have always re-flashed ROMs to reset. That way you know you cover the custom kernel. Some have had success flashing only the kernel. YMMV.
Always proceed after a good backup!
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As I recall, running VEGan 7.0 I used SetCPU no higher than 1.2 w/interactive. No noticeable drag or heat. Perhsoot builds great kernels but I seem to recall using Blades or Clemsyn but could be wrong. Unless you find a way to clock so far out of parameters (voltage/speed) I seriously doubt you can irreparably fry your GTab. Using the wrong power adapter would be more likely to nuke a tab. IMO.
Using plugged in logically it's a wash as you use what you charge. I'm no expert in electronics. Others may have more input here.
I have always re-flashed ROMs to reset. That way you know you cover the custom kernel. Some have had success flashing only the kernel. YMMV.
Always proceed after a good backup!
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Thanks alot for the reply. See...i don't flash or anything like that. Haven't took the time to learn it..when i know i need to.
I was hoping no kind of reflashing was involved. So your saying uninstalling it may not put things back like it was?
Also curious on this one..that "Set to Boot" thing..if you DON'T check that...does that mean whenever you reboot...it goes back to normal? And you have to open SetCPU again and again to set it up?
And of course checking it would mean it stays that way i guess. Just heard a few weird stories that you can't uninstall it. But even if i do..wanted to seriously know if everything will go back like it was. Thanks again.
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Thanks alot for the reply. See...i don't flash or anything like that. Haven't took the time to learn it..when i know i need to.
I was hoping no kind of reflashing was involved. So your saying uninstalling it may not put things back like it was?
Also curious on this one..that "Set to Boot" thing..if you DON'T check that...does that mean whenever you reboot...it goes back to normal? And you have to open SetCPU again and again to set it up?
And of course checking it would mean it stays that way i guess. Just heard a few weird stories that you can't uninstall it. But even if i do..wanted to seriously know if everything will go back like it was. Thanks again.
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Not a problem. We were all noobies at one time!
Flashing sounds like trouble but if/when done right it's simple. Trust me, you will one day laugh at remembering how anxious you were about it.
Check your other post. Doing a nandroid backup thru CWM will make a FULL BACKUP of everything on your GTab as it is right now. It's way simple to do really and can save your ass if something goes wrong.
Set To Boot means just what you think. If you leave it unchecked your GTab will revert to stock speed. Set To Boot means when your GTab reboots it goes back to overclock speed you set.
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Not a problem. We were all noobies at one time!
Flashing sounds like trouble but if/when done right it's simple. Trust me, you will one day laugh at remembering how anxious you were about it.
Check your other post. Doing a nandroid backup thru CWM will make a FULL BACKUP of everything on your GTab as it is right now. It's way simple to do really and can save your ass if something goes wrong.
Set To Boot means just what you think. If you leave it unchecked your GTab will revert to stock speed. Set To Boot means when your GTab reboots it goes back to overclock speed you set.
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Yea..had a feeling thats what the BOOT part meant. Just wanna be sure. And the ROM manager thing..im getting ALOT of negative things about it working NOT good with the GTab. Even my thread on here has a few people saying that. My gut keeps telling me when i try this...something will go wrong...then ill thing " Why did i have to try this..there was nothing wrong with my Tablet before this". You know. That lil voice.
Thats true about how we are were the same at one time. I hate when certain people think they never were. Funny.
Are there teps to nandroid backup without that ROM Manager? I want the easiest way possible.
Plus...how can i tell which Bootloader i am...you know..they say its either 1.1 or 1.2. I bought mine already flashed. Cant get ahold of the dude to ask him.
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Yea..had a feeling thats what the BOOT part meant. Just wanna be sure. And the ROM manager thing..im getting ALOT of negative things about it working NOT good with the GTab. Even my thread on here has a few people saying that. My gut keeps telling me when i try this...something will go wrong...then ill thing " Why did i have to try this..there was nothing wrong with my Tablet before this". You know. That lil voice.
Thats true about how we are were the same at one time. I hate when certain people think they never were. Funny.
Are there teps to nandroid backup without that ROM Manager? I want the easiest way possible.
Plus...how can i tell which Bootloader i am...you know..they say its either 1.1 or 1.2. I bought mine already flashed. Cant get ahold of the dude to ask him.
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OK. How to tell what bootloader you have....here.
Install CWM Guide here.
CWM is the only way I know of to do a complete nandroid backup. Installing CWM just for that makes it indispensable.
ROM Manager on the GTab is iffy at best. Works well on other tablet but not so much on GTab. I used it for informational purposes only.
I know that "little voice". We all have heard it. But having a full backup helps quiet it. I would not suggest you get to tweaking until you have a nandroid backup via CWM. That dreaded "something" will go wrong. It happens to most all on here who want to learn. Nothing like a soft bricked tablet to motivate one!
Just a suggestion. Before you get in too deep. Spend a week or so just reading the forum. Learn to use the Search function (It will save your butt many many times). Keep your threads condensed. (Two SetCPU threads can be confusing) and keep reading...
Oh, and relax. Pretty much whatever one does to a tablet can be fixed. I said "pretty much"! lol
skeeterpro said:
OK. How to tell what bootloader you have....here.
Install CWM Guide here.
CWM is the only way I know of to do a complete nandroid backup. Installing CWM just for that makes it indispensable.
ROM Manager on the GTab is iffy at best. Works well on other tablet but not so much on GTab. I used it for informational purposes only.
I know that "little voice". We all have heard it. But having a full backup helps quiet it. I would not suggest you get to tweaking until you have a nandroid backup via CWM. That dreaded "something" will go wrong. It happens to most all on here who want to learn. Nothing like a soft bricked tablet to motivate one!
Just a suggestion. Before you get in too deep. Spend a week or so just reading the forum. Learn to use the Search function (It will save your butt many many times). Keep your threads condensed. (Two SetCPU threads can be confusing) and keep reading...
Oh, and relax. Pretty much whatever one does to a tablet can be fixed. I said "pretty much"! lol
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So, to check which branch you are on if you are on STOCK: Go to Settings -- About Tablet -- Tapu UI Version.<<< I dont see that Tapu UI anywhere in my About Tablet. Hmmm. But i am running VEGAn TAB. I DO see Build Number: GRI40.
When in read how to check the bootloader thing..he did say something like ' If i have a lock screen..i must be on 1.2. I DO have a lockscreen. So 1.1 doesnt have any lock screen when the Tablet starts up????
But just a weird question...wouldnt i already have CWM if i have VEGAn TAB on here already?? I thought yes. I DO wanna speed this baby up a little bit. Doesnt have to be SUPER fast. Just a little faster startup and faster when i click apps or menu stuff. I want a Motorola Xoom soon. Wanna sell and trade up stuff for it.
I also wouldnt mind VEGA n TAB 7.1...i think they said the Camera works in that version for Skype and other stuff..not sure. Im a paranoid person with certain things in life. I guess this is one of em. Weird...im good with computers. Programs and stuff a little bit.
Guess i should just DL SetCPU and run it..just dont click set on BOOT.
Edit: WOW..those steps in how to install CWM is point on. Thats what i like...the DUMMY style step by step. Every word. You know..until we learn how to do it. Some people would explain..then say a certain word and ill be lost. That one was good. Thanks alot for the kind words and help. I really appreciate it.
Edit 2: I can put the zoip to CWM onto the internal SD of the GTab right? Even if theres alot of stuff already in it???
Edit 3: In the CWM folder i downloaded...i see the update.zip...zipped..and a folder that says Recovery. Strange..in the steps to install CWM...it says everything but it doesnt say what to do with this folder...even tho i think it should be in there no????
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Ok..are you using this? Would you know any good settings for this GTab? I dont wanna do anything and overheat it or put the wrong settings and stuff. You know. Any bad side effects?
Edit: Dumb question but...if i use this plugged in alot...in my room..then all the power it uses would be for the good right? can't kill the battery then.
Edit 2: One more question..if there was something you didnt like about it...does just uninstalling it put your phone right back to how it was? Or a little more tweaking you need to do before you uninstall?
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No. I used it on a different tab that I wanted to underclock to get battery life. The Galaxy tab is fast enough that I dont desire to overclock, so cpuset is useless to me.
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