Has anyone benchmarked their internal 16gig sd card on the Captivate? I just did mine and it said it was a unknown class..and gave 10 gig mbs write/15gig mbs read speeds..
Does this mean it is a class 10 or higher card?
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edited..I said gigs and meant megs
Right, I'm sure your card's reading/writing 10+GBPS.
You must mean "meg"
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Right, I'm sure your card's reading/writing 10+GBPS.
You must mean "meg"
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Opps..I did mean mbs..not gigs... my bad
Anyway..it does say unknown class in front..then the 10 -15 speed..
Huh. You know, that's a good question, and I, too, am interested in the answer.
I wonder if how the device mounts the card is in any way a sort of a contributing factor in the internal card's R/W and/or real-world use? Could this even be possible, in theory?—or is there some sort of a simple hardware bottleneck present in the card/chip itself, that thus constricts the efficiency of the phone's access to the card, and in some way puts it on par with a $5 USB-reader?
Is there such a thing as a more efficient, or a better-designed reader—that, if compared to a less efficient/badly-designed reader, would produce two significantly different benchmark-results for the same chip? What sorts of design-flaws could cause such an inferior result?
...Is the "internal SD" memory of the Captivate even comparable to a MicroSD chip at all?—or is it a totally different kind of flash-memory, and thus not subject to class-level designation (except for in comparison)? Perhaps that should've been our first question.
Don't get me wrong: I'm really, genuinely eager to learn how all this fascinating hardware works. Harddrives are pretty cool, too
Hard drives annoy me. I hate how 3 years ago I shelled out a couple hundred for a 300gb hard drive and now I can get a 1TB for 90 bucks!
But back on topic, should the class of the card really matter as long as there aren't seriously noticeable delays when moving data on/off the chip?
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Hard drives annoy me. I hate how 3 years ago I shelled out a couple hundred for a 300gb hard drive and now I can get a 1TB for 90 bucks!
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Haha, yeah... but I meant, "how they work". To be sure, the same price-fluctuation occurs with all sorts of fast-evolving products: video-cards, memory-chips, VG consoles, displays, and all kinds of pocket-gadgets (and so on).
Economics often frustrates me. You know, I just bought a 16GB chip for 28$ the other day, and found it on sale for $20 the next day (but mine had already shipped)—and I so much would have rather been ordering a good 32-gig chip... but most are currently on for >$100 (but will surely retail for considerably less come January). Madness!
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But back on topic, should the class of the card really matter as long as there aren't seriously noticeable delays when moving data on/off the chip?
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Practically speaking, no—you're right: knowing the supposed class-rating of the chip isn't going to improve data transfer-rates, or anything performance-based... but, I do think that such information is nevertheless useful: it will facilitate for me, and for perhaps others, a more comprehensive understanding of how this sort of hardware works. What we learn from these answers, may serve as background to future questions that we will one day formulate...
...and may even apply, perhaps, to things outside the realm of technology (it certainly has the potential to). To wax poetic for just a moment, I've always been pleasantly surprised to notice the uncanny applicability of seemingly-unrelated areas of study. Truly, what one learns in X, can almost always be extended to Y. For example, what one learns in math class, let's say, is easily extendable well-beyond the realm of algebra (which seems on the surface, to the average high school student, to be an incredibly arcane and impractical and/or irrelevant skill-set—which is hard to learn, and thus often isn't well)—however—in learning how to ninja one's way around an algebraic equation, one also learns how to think logically, and analytically, and does develop one's critical reasoning abilities, and one's memory, and one's capacity for rationality, and keeps one's mind sharp, and trains one's focus, and... so much more.
I'm not looking to marry math or anything; I just think that it's remarkable that most good programmers, strategizers, grammartarians, scientists and even philosophers are also natural mathematicians: they process thoughts in similar ways—point being, seemingly unrelated things, are often quite intertwined. Technology, to me, feels like such a relevant thing to understand fundamentally (given the age we live in, and all). The answers to these questions feel to me... applicable—and thus I seek them. That's what motivates me to.
If that was hard to get through, I apologize. Feel free to respond, or to get back on topic (and I am going to bed).
If that was hard to get through, I apologize. Feel free to respond, or to get back on topic (and I am going to bed).
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I understand what you mean..long winded and all
I have a much more simpler reasoning for my question..and that is to replicate the speed of my internal for my external sd card and to make it seamless. While this may not seem to important to some,for me it is. Having it the same will allow any transfers on or off it to be the same.Pause any hd movie loaded on a sd card and fast forward it..how long does it take to watch the movieagain ..do the same on the internal memory..and you will see just why I want it seamless and the same. A class 2 or class 4 card doesn't come close..even the vaulted class 6 isn't nearly as fast..and who knows when we will see good inexpensive class 8 or 10.The speed I got when benchmarking the internal storage lead me to believe it was a very fast flash drive and not a micro sd card as what I was told by the Samsung galaxy techs..and is most likely why I have not recieved any response back from them on where I can purchase one to match it. Getting to see this post earlier begins to confirm this to me..http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8354214&postcount=23...Also.. makes me beg the question to any Samsung represenative that may be following this..Why is it being allowed to be told incorrectly that the internal memory is a micro sd card..when it is not ?
I have a Transcend 8 gig class 6 coming tomorrow..and I'll benchmark that and time both storage to show you what I mean..
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What app do you use to benchmark it? I have a class 10 coming from a friend at the factory. We are thinking about selling them, but would have to charge $69 including Priority Mail.
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What app do you use to benchmark it? I have a class 10 coming from a friend at the factory. We are thinking about selling them, but would have to charge $69 including Priority Mail.
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sorry to bump an old thread but i couldn't find anything on speed testing on the phone and same goes for the market other than a paid app
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I am confused which one to buy?
I love WP7 but I'm unsure which of those 3 smartphones to buy.
I hope there will be Zune HD2 and in that case I can have the iphone 4 and an experience of WP7.
Give me your opinions please.
I'm going with the Focus. I've been looking forward to have a phone with a nice 4" AMOLED screen. It only has 8GB internal, but is expandable via MicroSD to 40GB. Plus it has 512MB of RAM so it should be pretty good.
If I was on T-mobile I would go with the HD7, but AT&T is not getting that one. The Surround looks nice, but the focus is thinner and I don't need the speakers. I originally wanted the iPhone 4 when it came out but I was not available for upgrade. And now that I've seen WP7, I'm glad they wouldn't let me upgrade
Personally I would give it a while before making a decision. wp7 is new and probably troublesome. and besides there will be very few programs until it matures a bit...
Whats stopping you from getting an android phone?
Two things attract me towards Focus
1). 1500 mAh battery (HTC giving only 1200 mAh)
2). microSD slot (which I think WinMo7 is forbidding OEMs, somehow Samsung has got the signal)
WP7 supports "extra" memory but not "expandable/removable" memory. If you put in a SD card it will require a hard reset. If you want to upgrade your SD card in the future it will take a hard reset. No big deal if you ask me, I'll probably put in an extra 32GB on day one and be done with it.
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WP7 supports "extra" memory but not "expandable/removable" memory. If you put in a SD card it will require a hard reset. If you want to upgrade your SD card in the future it will take a hard reset. No big deal if you ask me, I'll probably put in an extra 32GB on day one and be done with it.
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That sounds a lot better than my initial impression of not being able to expand memory size at all. A bit of an odd requirement, but no different than a phone with an SD card slot underneath the battery.
Between the HD7 or the Focus, you simply have to ask yourself if you prefer the deep blacks and vibrant colors of the Focus or the larger screen of the HD7. Will all come down to personal preference. I've got a Captivate right now and I'd love a 4.3" device, but it's going to be hard to give up the Super AMOLED.
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That sounds a lot better than my initial impression of not being able to expand memory size at all. A bit of an odd requirement, but no different than a phone with an SD card slot underneath the battery.
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I think the reason for the non user replaceable SD cards is due to microsoft wanting to control the file system without user intervention. From their perspective it makes the device safer to manage.
Being able to upgrade the SD card is purely for OEMs hence the reason why it resets the device. The average user wont attempt to upgrade their cards, but it's great to see power users having this ability.
I also think it will vary from OEM to OEM how this is implimented. I cant see HTC making it easily available to users to upgrade so my hat goes of to Samsung for allowing it.
Maybe in the future most OEMS will offer a "one-time-upgrade" at time of purchase or when you buy every OEM has mutltiple options available, they just slip in a card before dispatch.
Anyway, my first WP7 phone is the HD7, my faithful HD2 is on it's last legs and due early retirement. I don't think I could go back to anything smaller.
This time next year I think the WP7 landscape will look completely different with more choice of phones per network (O2 UK currently only offer the HD7), I'll review the replacement for the HD7 again then.
I know we all love this phone, it is awesome. Super Fast, Super intuitive stock android, Super pretty, but lets be honest What's the one issue that Makes you want to get rid of the phone and never look back.
I didn't know how important a microsd card was to me until I used this phone. I used to have my entire music collection on my GS4 and while I still have online access to everything, I really miss not having to use up all my data and really being able to listen to anything anytime anywhere. Also pinning music for offline use through Google music sucks when you have thousands upon thousands of tracks and might forget what you have and haven't saved for offline play.
What's your issue that made you rethink your purchase for a slit second.
I knew there was no sd card going in and embraced it. I think it's easier to keep track of what's on storage and I obviously bought a 32 GB.
No complaints with the phone here. Well except I would have bought a red one.
Oh, ibl
Complaining isn't going to help.
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What's your issue that made you rethink your purchase for a slit second.
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I haven't rethought at all. As is a small bugbear but it hasn't made me rethink
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For the average user, most phone companies now are not including an SD card on pretty much all of their phones (except samsung.) With cloud storage and high speed internet available at your finger tips, just stream it all. Google will let you store like 20,000 songs free and stream them. It may be a strain on your data plan, but if you're at home or the office, just use wifi.
The point of the fact is, if 16GB isn't enough, they make you buy the 32GB phone. If that still isn't enough for you, they recommend you use their services and apps to fill in the gap.
For me it's not having USB audio on stock.
Many people have no idea what this means, and even if they did it wouldn't matter to them, but to music quality snobs such as myself, it really irks me.
Especially because iphones have usb audio.
Cyanogen and probably some other roms support usb audio so it is possible to get with this phone
But I really feel this should be on stock android, and on every single phone.
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For the average user, most phone companies now are not including an SD card on pretty much all of their phones (except samsung.) With cloud storage and high speed internet available at your finger tips, just stream it all. Google will let you store like 20,000 songs free and stream them. It may be a strain on your data plan, but if you're at home or the office, just use wifi.
The point of the fact is, if 16GB isn't enough, they make you buy the 32GB phone. If that still isn't enough for you, they recommend you use their services and apps to fill in the gap.
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This. ^^^^^^^^^^^
To the OP, may I offer a suggestion:
Use a large portion of your internal storage to store the albums/tracks you listen to w/ the most frequency, and leave the online storage for the remainder. Obviously you can swap between the two whenever you'd like, but seems like it would make the most sense given the fact that you still decided to go w/ a N5.
May not serve your "any track, any time, anywhere" purpose fully, but will save you data and still allow you quick access to a good portion of your media.
I have to say, the limitation on storage does not bother me in the slightest. Sure it would be -nice- to be able to expand the storage, but in this day and age, data is getting cheaper and cheaper, and services that stream media are getting better and easier to use.
Why do we need more storage? how many apps are you truly going to install? how much music do you really need to take with you at all times?
personally, I have a network attached storage, which does owncloud. Through this, and the owncloud app, I stream all of my media to my phone wherever I am.
One could also use a service such as dropbox, or even just listen to online radio streams or even watch netflix for movies.
"The Cloud" is all the rage these days, and it's getting more and more cost effective to use such services. So really, why do we need an SD slot? why do we need additional storage?
I have a 128 GB USB drive attached to my key chain, and a USB otg cable in my wallet all the time... No need for an sd card here... Just wish there was an i r blaster
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I have a 128 GB USB drive attached to my key chain, and a USB otg cable in my wallet all the time... No need for an sd card here... Just wish there was an i r blaster
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That'll do it right there.
I was preaching this a year ago when people were bagging in the HTC One and no SDcard slot. LOL
I have the 16 gig and no issue.... well it's because I have Sprint and have decent service in Houston so pulling anything from/to the cloud is a no worries situation for me!!
Get one of these.
http://www.meenova.com/
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78Dopd9we34
+1 for meenova, I use it almost everyday
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EnIXmA said:
I have a 128 GB USB drive attached to my key chain, and a USB otg cable in my wallet all the time... No need for an sd card here... Just wish there was an i r blaster
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Yup, who needs an elegant solution like MicroSD card when we can carry USB drives and OTG cables :good:
your thread name is misleading. love is unconditional, period. if you have conditions to get your love, that isnt love. you dont love your phone. i love my nexus 5, with every perfection and misperfection it has
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I have edited the title because I think I am giving people the wrong impression. The point I was making is that even though somthing is awesome, because we are all individuals and this is a mass market device there are bound to be things about the phone that erk us, maybe its only an issue to you. I didn't intend this to be an sd card complaint thread, Just a chance for everyone to vent their idiosyncrasies.
The nexus 5 is probably the best phone I've used/owned hands down. No regrets whatsoever
I definitely love this phone. I came from the Note 3 and do not miss that phone one bit although it wasn't a bad phone either. I have more than enough gigabytes (32gb) and if I felt that 32gb wasn't enough then I would of stuck with the Note 3 (which has expandable memory) or bought a phone that offered expandable memory.
I do not agree with streaming from the cloud as alternative unless you have a true unlimited 4g/LTE plan. Also I would hate to walk around with USB OTG as an option. OP next time get a phone with expandable memory or hope they make the N6 in a 64gb version.
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The battery is underpowered imo
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I hate the headphone jack at the top.
Whatchu talking bout willis!
I have a very large music collection. All of the tracks are in a mySQL database. I made a little bash script that randomly selects about 8gb at a time and copies the tracks to the phone. I am more than satisfied.
One week with my 32gb N6 and given the fact the phone offers actually 26 true gb, after installation of system and user apps I have barely over 21gb free to start filling with music/pictures/videos. Deducting another 2gb that I always want to leave free on any device this leaves me with less than 19GB for personal data. I have a 1-month free return option and I am now wondering whether I should take advantage of it to go for the 64gb version. I don't want to carry my entire library with me but it seems I hadn't calculated very well what 32 nominal gb correspond to in reality. How do other 32gb owners feel about the available storage?
it really depends on your needs. 32 is perfect for me. i don't keep music on my device since i have unlimited data so really its just roms, pics, n twrp backups that i keep.
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32gb is fine for me. My photos get backed up to Google+, so from time to time I delete some from the device, and almost all my music is streamed. This leaves me with at least 16gb free, even with lots of apps, podcast episodes, audiobooks, email attachments and the like.
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Pretty lame thread..
One is bigger than the other what else is there to know?
get the 64gb...if ur an app junky like myself...i had no choice since my price error was only for the 32gb...i had to buy it right away and deal with only 32gb
I own a Nexus 6 myself and now that I've let you know I own a Nexus 6 I would like to ask a question also. Ok, so here's it is:
I sometimes find myself wanting to make a phone call. Of course, there are a few ways this can be done. Now, I have two options that normally fill my needs and I find myself using the most. The first is my recent calls option......I pretty much just have to click and it calls the contact.....WOW. My second option is to actually "access" if you will, my contacts in the "phone app" and locate the contact I wish to call. Of course once I find that contact, I pretty much just have to touch or "click" the name to make the call.
So, my question here would be:
What are your opinions on making phone calls and the best way to accomplish contacting other humans with our Nexus 6 phones? I look forward to reading the deep thoughts and different ways people like to contact others using this glorious device. Thank you so very much, I will be waiting here bashing the f5 key on my keyboard until my hand starts to bleeding waiting for replies. My life is so empty
yeah.................................................you want more storage? Get more storage....why do you people continue to waste space with these stupid threads?
jagpoag said:
I own a Nexus 6 myself and now that I've let you know I own a Nexus 6 I would like to ask a question also. Ok, so here's it is:
I sometimes find myself wanting to make a phone call. Of course, there are a few ways this can be done. Now, I have two options that normally fill my needs and I find myself using the most. The first is my recent calls option......I pretty much just have to click and it calls the contact.....WOW. My second option is to actually "access" if you will, my contacts in the "phone app" and locate the contact I wish to call. Of course once I find that contact, I pretty much just have to touch or "click" the name to make the call.
So, my question here would be:
What are your opinions on making phone calls and the best way to accomplish contacting other humans with our Nexus 6 phones? I look forward to reading the deep thoughts and different ways people like to contact others using this glorious device. Thank you so very much, I will be waiting here bashing the f5 key on my keyboard until my hand starts to bleeding waiting for replies. My life is so empty
yeah.................................................you want more storage? Get more storage....why do you people continue to waste space with these stupid threads?
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So do you recommend 32 or 64 gb dear friend?
I have no issues with my 32GB. I rely on cloud services for media, which works especially well since streaming music doesn't count against my data with T-Mobile. I don't watch videos except when I'm chilliing at home generally, where I'll either use Netflix, Hulu, YouTube, or just stream from my archive on my NAS. With about 14GB of apps and their data, I have about 15 GB to snap pics and video, or download a few movies/albums if I know I'll be without data.
The answer is easy.
If you find yourself saying, "I can't decide between the 64GB model or the 32GB model..." , it means you should just get the f'ing 64GB model and move on with life.
Pretty simple. I'd rather say, "I have more GBs than I need", as opposed to, "I need more GBs.".
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I have no issues with my 32GB. I rely on cloud services for media, which works especially well since streaming music doesn't count against my data with T-Mobile. I don't watch videos except when I'm chilliing at home generally, where I'll either use Netflix, Hulu, YouTube, or just stream from my archive on my NAS. With about 14GB of apps and their data, I have about 15 GB to snap pics and video, or download a few movies/albums if I know I'll be without data.
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I am yet not sold on cloud services for streaming my music. I travel often and since I am not on my provider's network all the time (or any network at all in flight) it's not possible to stream. Then there's much more battery drain from 4G+streaming compared to listening to media locally so I still kind of prefer the old-fashioned "mp3-player" mode. I've always felt a bit limited with 16gb non-expandable memory devices so I thought a 32gb one would give me the extra space but apparently it's not exactly like that. More and more people do use cloud services for streaming their own music though so it may be something I have to re-consider in the end.
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The answer is easy.
If you find yourself saying, "I can't decide between the 64GB model or the 32GB model..." , it means you should just get the f'ing 64GB model and move on with life.
Pretty simple. I'd rather say, "I have more GBs than I need", as opposed to, "I need more GBs.".
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Not far from the truth...
Thing is I had settled with the 32gb model nicely but then actually found out there this 1-month free return thing so the dilemma 32 vs 64 came to mind.
It's like buying a VW Phaeton. Many would be happy just to have one. Would I regret not buying the model with a heated steering wheel and rear passenger HVAC controls if I just bought the standard version, even if I was offered the opportunity to upgrade for only the price difference of the two models? No, I still have a bad-ass car.
Perhaps that's just me, though.
Finally, someone has compared the two directly. I was hoping for more than this, but she does some comparisons in time it takes to do simple tasks (boot, copy video, open apps, etc.) and there does seem to be a noticeable difference. Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MaPc4Xw11Q
Makes me feel slightly better about waiting until mid-September for my 512GB...
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Finally, someone has compared the two directly. I was hoping for more than this, but she does some comparisons in time it takes to do simple tasks (boot, copy video, open apps, etc.) and there does seem to be a noticeable difference. Here's the link:
Makes me feel slightly better about waiting until mid-September for my 512GB...
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Eh a few seconds difference won't kill me. Not even a few seconds.
Paying over 200 bucks more for maybe a second increase in performance might not seem as bad on my car.
But on my phone I think I think I will save my money.
It's not like my note 8 was a slouch and I'm not exactly racing other phones to open apps.
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Eh a few seconds difference won't kill me. Not even a few seconds.
Paying over 200 bucks more for maybe a second increase in performance might not seem as bad on my car.
But on my phone I think I think I will save my money.
It's not like my note 8 was a slouch and I'm not exactly racing other phones to open apps.
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I mean, I agree overall. As someone who bought the 512, I am just excited to see there's a difference beyond having more storage and being able to hold more apps in memory (which is what I expected).
As someone who may own the phone 2+ years, those "one second" savings will add up a lot over time! ??
i keep seeing more and more threads on this subject increasingly on this forum--trying to prove the 512 is better or worse...
naah people who bought the 512 version just want to feel validated. if both phones were the same cost, most would opt for the 512 because its the flag.
on paper the 512 may run a sec or thrice faster at crunching a number than the 128, but we are going to be hard pressed to see that in real world usage.
personally, i have both and my old note 8, and dont need the justification or validation. i just like the latest and greatest.
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i keep seeing more and more threads on this subject increasingly on this forum--trying to prove the 512 is better or worse...
naah people who bought the 512 version just want to feel validated. if both phones were the same cost, most would opt for the 512 because its the flag.
on paper the 512 may run a sec or thrice faster at crunching a number than the 128, but we are going to be hard pressed to see that in real world usage.
personally, i have both and my old note 8, and dont need the justification or validation. i just like the latest and greatest.
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The only time I'd buy the 512gb is if I needed that much storage on the fast device memory and not SD card.
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i keep seeing more and more threads on this subject increasingly on this forum--trying to prove the 512 is better or worse...
naah people who bought the 512 version just want to feel validated. if both phones were the same cost, most would opt for the 512 because its the flag.
on paper the 512 may run a sec or thrice faster at crunching a number than the 128, but we are going to be hard pressed to see that in real world usage.
personally, i have both and my old note 8, and dont need the justification or validation. i just like the latest and greatest.
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Did you not see the video? It's noticeably faster. This is the same crap we compare between last year's phones and this year's to justify upgrades. A second or two faster is not nothing.
Regardless, I think a lot of people who got the 512/8 were trying to futureproof themselves. That's why I got it. If this is indeed the last Note, I'm holding onto it for years. So I want the space and memory.
As a side note, I've also seen a lot of your type of posts from the 128 people... Trying to justify NOT getting the 512 and hoping there's no noticeable difference. ?
There's no sense feeding this troll on his gloating on purchasing a more expensive model with storage space to hold more porn and 2gb extra ram for some micro second differences.
Me I'd never blow that much on a device unless it had reasonable upgrades not something so minor.
I just think he wants to make sure because he blew more $$ on a device, for minor upgrades wants to convince himself for not being an idiot and making up excuses :laugh:
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There's no sense feeding this troll on his gloating on purchasing a more expensive model with storage space to hold more porn and 2gb extra ram for some micro second differences.
Me I'd never blow that much on a device unless it had reasonable upgrades not something so minor.
I just think he wants to make sure because he blew more $$ on a device, for minor upgrades wants to convince himself for not being an idiot and making up excuses :laugh:
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Haha are your seriously referring to me as a troll?? If so, this is a first.
I'm legitimately interested in the real world difference because I have it on order... I already explained that I got it because I heard the Note9 may be the last Note and if that's true, I want to hold onto it for a long time so I future proofed myself, somewhat.
That said, this is a technical website. Why would you not want to see the difference between models? Not to mention the blue 512s are backordered globally, so clearly many people wanted them (hence might want to know what gains they paid for).
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Haha are your seriously referring to me as a troll?? If so, this is a first.
I'm legitimately interested in the real world difference because I have it on order... I already explained that I got it because I heard the Note9 may be the last Note and if that's true, I want to hold onto it for a long time so I future proofed myself, somewhat.
That said, this is a technical website. Why would you not want to see the difference between models? Not to mention the blue 512s are backordered globally, so clearly many people wanted them (hence might want to know what gains they paid for).
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Got to admit though, what he said was funny.?
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To be a fair review she needs two retail models , not one she bought and the prerelease free model she got from samsung , by not having an sd card speeds up both models as sd cards read and write slower than the built in storage.
In the US, the shipping time of 128gb is in 2 days and 512gb is at the end of Sept 2018.
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In the US, the shipping time of 128gb is in 2 days and 512gb is at the end of Sept 2018.
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imagine what it is in Kazakhstan
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To be a fair review she needs two retail models , not one she bought and the prerelease free model she got from samsung , by not having an sd card speeds up both models as sd cards read and write slower than the built in storage.
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Exactly, Samsung gives all them popular YouTubers free units and in turn receives favourable reviews. Capatilsm at its finest.
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Exactly, Samsung gives all them popular YouTubers free units and in turn receives favourable reviews. Capatilsm at its finest.
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But she is showing the one she bought to be better than the retail unit. I don't think that had any affect on these results she posted.
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But she is showing the one she bought to be better than the retail unit. I don't think that had any affect on these results she posted.
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My comment wasn't solely based towards her. If anything, she's one of the fairer reviewers I've watched and continue to do so.
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My comment wasn't solely based towards her. If anything, she's one of the fairer reviewers I've watched and continue to do so.
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YouTube is a cesspool.
Like the YouTube tech guy. Basically getting views by reading the manual and listing off "hidden" features.
Same as the tech sites.. same mindless lists of why to or why not to buy X device.
Lists of features. Things you should do before buying your phone, apps you should get.
Uggghhh
It's all trash.
So looking at the note 10 designs it looks like its going to have the hole punch. ( which I dont like)
At the moment the note 9 8gb version is on sale at £649. Trade in of my 6gb version will get me £340.
Is it worth the £309 price difference to get the extra ram and storage and the hybrid sim version bearing in mind I'm going to stick with the note 9 until at least the note 11?
Not in my opinion, I doubt you'd notice the extra ram that much and you could buy an SD card for much cheaper if you really needed extra storage.
clax6 said:
So looking at the note 10 designs it looks like its going to have the hole punch. ( which I dont like)
At the moment the note 9 8gb version is on sale at £649. Trade in of my 6gb version will get me £340.
Is it worth the £309 price difference to get the extra ram and storage and the hybrid sim version bearing in mind I'm going to stick with the note 9 until at least the note 11?
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In my opinion, it depends on what you do with your phone...
Do you play heavy games or daily basis activities?
If only daily basis activities (Email, Gmail, Word, Excel, Facebook, Reddit, Telegram or others) then 6GB would be enough, my opinion only.
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No, 6gb is enough
Save your money. Your existing note will be good until it dies. Companies keep adding minute changes to their "next flagships" to play with our minds to buy their new phones. They want your money is all it is. Keep your note 9. But it you have the extra cash then have at it.
I've had both and you absolutely cant tell a difference
Carlosmff said:
In my opinion, it depends on what you do with your phone...
Do you play heavy games or daily basis activities?
If only daily basis activities (Email, Gmail, Word, Excel, Facebook, Reddit, Telegram or others) then 6GB would be enough, my opinion only.
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That worked on you? You know it's all a gimmick right?
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That worked on you? You know it's all a gimmick right?
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Not sure why someone thinks the ram would effect game performance.. especially when going from 6gb to 8gb lol. I don't think most people know what ram really is or does honestly.
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Not sure why someone thinks the ram would effect game performance.. especially when going from 6gb to 8gb lol. I don't think most people know what ram really is or does honestly.
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Hum Does not affect games... right... well smart guy... please clarify us... and tell us what RAM is and how does this not affect games...
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Carlosmff said:
Hum Does not affect games... right... well smart guy... please clarify us... and tell us what RAM is and how does this not affect games...
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Ram is random access memory and effects how many applications stay open in the background. If you're planning on running ten resource heavy games open at once maybe. Game performance would be much more heavily impacted by the GPU and CPU performance than by the amount of ram (which from 6 to 8gb would have no effect whatsoever I would guess). Unless you're planning on switching back and forth between two very intensive games I can't see why this would benefit you.
How about you instead tell me how it benefits game performance? Smart guy lol
I have 8/512 note 9, only reason is i need 2 things.. huuge storage and 2 sim cards...if no need for 2 sims i would get 6/128 and stick sd card inside
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Ram is random access memory and effects how many applications stay open in the background. If you're planning on running ten resource heavy games open at once maybe. Game performance would be much more heavily impacted by the GPU and CPU performance than by the amount of ram (which from 6 to 8gb would have no effect whatsoever I would guess). Unless you're planning on switching back and forth between two very intensive games I can't see why this would benefit you.
How about you instead tell me how it benefits game performance? Smart guy lol
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The current industry of smartphone tech reminds me of the PC age. Not to mention, when ram levels started increasing and folks kept closing out their background apps to "get the device to be faster." I still chuckle at those days.?
Jammol said:
The current industry of smartphone tech reminds me of the PC age. Not to mention, when ram levels started increasing and folks kept closing out their background apps to "get the device to be faster." I still chuckle at those days.?
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Or when they kept putting out higher and higher megapixel cameras because people thought megapixels = quality lol
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Or when they kept putting out higher and higher megapixel cameras because people thought megapixels = quality lol
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Manufacturers are trying to get us back to wanting more megapixels yet again; they got us hating bezels because our phone started to be good enough to keep for more than a year; they got us obsessed with the amount of RAM there is in our phones and how the CPU benchmarks. I've got a Note 9 and a Mi Max 3 and I honestly could happily use either of them day-to-day. Manufacturers in all industries have a duty to make us want to crave things, and they do a good job of it. To answer the question though - no the OP should not upgrade unless they have money to burn as RAM will have absolutely no difference on gaming performance or day-to-day performance - it's just a psychological up-sell to get people to get the 512GB model. Also did you really say you'd be effectively selling your Note for £349??
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Manufacturers are trying to get us back to wanting more megapixels yet again; they got us hating bezels because our phone started to be good enough to keep for more than a year; they got us obsessed with the amount of RAM there is in our phones and how the CPU benchmarks. I've got a Note 9 and a Mi Max 3 and I honestly could happily use either of them day-to-day. Manufacturers in all industries have a duty to make us want to crave things, and they do a good job of it. To answer the question though - no the OP should not upgrade unless they have money to burn as RAM will have absolutely no difference on gaming performance or day-to-day performance - it's just a psychological up-sell to get people to get the 512GB model. Also did you really say you'd be effectively selling your Note for £349??
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Yes that is the trade in price.
After reading lots of posts (as well as this one) about the 2 different models I'm going to stick with what I've got. I have a 256 sd card so I have plenty of storage and as regards ram unless your doing a speed test side by side I dont think I'm going to notice. I'm probably going to stick a sim only sim in September when my contract ends and hold out with the 9 until i either break it or something revolutionary comes out. Which i doubt.
Another thing that i think the 9 has in its favour is the fact that it DOES have a forehead and chin as when watching videos you dont cover any of the screen where as with a real edge to edge like the s10 and most probably the note 10 i think it will be an issue let alone the pesky hole punch!
Thanks for all the replies
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Or when they kept putting out higher and higher megapixel cameras because people thought megapixels = quality lol
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clax6 said:
Yes that is the trade in price.
After reading lots of posts (as well as this one) about the 2 different models I'm going to stick with what I've got. I have a 256 sd card so I have plenty of storage and as regards ram unless your doing a speed test side by side I dont think I'm going to notice. I'm probably going to stick a sim only sim in September when my contract ends and hold out with the 9 until i either break it or something revolutionary comes out. Which i doubt.
Another thing that i think the 9 has in its favour is the fact that it DOES have a forehead and chin as when watching videos you dont cover any of the screen where as with a real edge to edge like the s10 and most probably the note 10 i think it will be an issue let alone the pesky hole punch!
Thanks for all the replies
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I sometimes use an older iPhone and I really do love the bezels as far as usability goes. All the newer phones lead to me catching UI elements - for example I'm a big YouTube watcher and the only phone I've used recently where I never accidently skip videos when moving my phone around is the iPhone. The other downside to bezels being removed is that phones really do all look pretty much the same now.
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clax6 said:
Yes that is the trade in price.
After reading lots of posts (as well as this one) about the 2 different models I'm going to stick with what I've got. I have a 256 sd card so I have plenty of storage and as regards ram unless your doing a speed test side by side I dont think I'm going to notice. I'm probably going to stick a sim only sim in September when my contract ends and hold out with the 9 until i either break it or something revolutionary comes out. Which i doubt.
Another thing that i think the 9 has in its favour is the fact that it DOES have a forehead and chin as when watching videos you dont cover any of the screen where as with a real edge to edge like the s10 and most probably the note 10 i think it will be an issue let alone the pesky hole punch!
Thanks for all the replies
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As for RAM, whatever anyone says, it has no bearing on actual application speed - all RAM does is hold applications in memory. Apps are flushed from memory according to space and the particular memory setup the manufacturer implements. Some manufacturers throw loads of RAM at their devices but their battery management is so brutal that it's almost worthless.
Google themselves think 4GB is enough, and cynicism aside, they do actually write the OS, which the manufacturers don't. If anyone knows how much RAM is necessary it's Google IMO. I can't think what would motivate them to think otherwise. Unless you have applications hogging loads of RAM, the worst you can expect with less RAM is that an application you had open a while back has to re-open again. With 6GB of RAM this should rarely be an issue, and many apps freeze their state anyway
Tend to agree that you likely wouldn't see much benefit with extra RAM and I certainly don't think extra 2Gb at a cost of £300 is good value.
That said I can see the appeal of 512Gb internal storage versus 128Gb
If you really want an 8Gb / 512Gb Note 9 then wait until Note 10 is on sale, I guarantee Note 9 price will fall significantly and the difference to upgrade to 8Gb / 512Gb Note 9 will likely be less expensive.
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its a pickup right?
like the ones people like to have "in case they need to hull stuff" which happens 2 x every 5 years.
or like when constructions workers think they need a pickup because coming to work in a car is so unprofessional but unfortunately everyone knows ure not aloud to use your own personal machinery on construction sites.
or even: pollution on 4 wheels?
lol ok jokes over.
You won't notice any difference between the 6GB and the 8GB models
clax6 said:
So looking at the note 10 designs it looks like its going to have the hole punch. ( which I dont like)
At the moment the note 9 8gb version is on sale at £649. Trade in of my 6gb version will get me £340.
Is it worth the £309 price difference to get the extra ram and storage and the hybrid sim version bearing in mind I'm going to stick with the note 9 until at least the note 11?
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Monitor your memory usage. If you never approach 6GB utilization, then you'll never gain anything with an extra two GB. Have you filled 128 GB with content you couldn't put on a $50 SD card?