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Ok, I've been trying to get to the bottom of this problem for a long time.
I've got unilimited HSDPA GPRS on my Tilt, so I tether to my laptop. Kaiser is connected through a 1Amp powered USB hub to a laptop. Tilt was just lying on the desk, and I noticed several interesting things:
1. If Kaiser is at 100% charge - the green light (power) will stay on for a long time, about 40-60 minutes.
2. If Kaiser is NOT at 100% charge, it will charge (orange light) but won't reach 100%. It will stop charging in about 20-30 minutes.
3. If I put Kaiser on a cup, so that there's nothing under it and air moves freely all the way around the Kaiser - I get around 40-60 minutes of charging even when battery is less than 100%. If it is 100%, I can get up to 1.5 hours or so.
4. Whenether it stops charging - I notice that the back of Kaiser gets pretty high.
5. Every 40-60 minutes the charging light comes on again and charges for about 10-20 minutes (gives couple % to battery), then comes off again.
6. BatteryStatus app shows:
6.1 When charge light is ON: + some MAh, don't remember exact number, but it's like 10 or 20.. very low charge
6.2 When charge light is OFF: full battery drain, -400 or somewhere around there (can't remember). It seems that power flow through USB port just stops, disconnects.
7. I see same results when using car charger and stock AC power adapter.
8. Traffic definitelly affects it. If I just have HSDPA on and not using it - it charges fine, it seems. When I start using up the traffic (download files, watch TV, etc) it starts to heat up and stops charging after some time.
It seems to me that the problem with Kaiser stopping to charge when using HSDPA is caused by heat. There must be something on the hardware that turns off charging if the processor/MB/hardware is overheating. I guess charging the battery generates more heat than using the battery, or why else would it turn off charging when overheating?
Just thought that this, perhaps, would be interesting to some developers or people who have the same problem. Maybe someone can put Kaiser in front of a good fan and see what kind of result does that give - maybe it will keep charging.
Assuming that this is true, I don't suppose a fix is possible. Except for, perhaps, switching to slower connection (not applicable in my case) or putting kaiser on a bag of ice.
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Ok, I've been trying to get to the bottom of this problem for a long time.
I've got unilimited HSDPA GPRS on my Tilt, so I tether to my laptop. Kaiser is connected through a 1Amp powered USB hub to a laptop. Tilt was just lying on the desk, and I noticed several interesting things:
1. If Kaiser is at 100% charge - the green light (power) will stay on for a long time, about 40-60 minutes.
2. If Kaiser is NOT at 100% charge, it will charge (orange light) but won't reach 100%. It will stop charging in about 20-30 minutes.
3. If I put Kaiser on a cup, so that there's nothing under it and air moves freely all the way around the Kaiser - I get around 40-60 minutes of charging even when battery is less than 100%. If it is 100%, I can get up to 1.5 hours or so.
4. Whenether it stops charging - I notice that the back of Kaiser gets pretty high.
It seems to me that the problem with Kaiser stopping to charge when using HSDPA is caused by heat. There must be something on the hardware that turns off charging if the processor/MB/hardware is overheating. I guess charging the battery generates more heat than using the battery, or why else would it turn off charging when overheating?
Just thought that this, perhaps, would be interesting to some developers or people who have the same problem. Maybe someone can put Kaiser in front of a good fan and see what kind of result does that give - maybe it will keep charging.
Assuming that this is true, I don't suppose a fix is possible. Except for, perhaps, switching to slower connection (not applicable in my case) or putting kaiser on a bag of ice.
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What does the Batterystatus app read in all above situations?
Since I exchanged my Kaiser, I don't feel the unit getting hot anymore. The previous unit used to get v.hot using wi-fi and 3G/HSDPA - Possible fault?
smads said:
What does the Batterystatus app read in all above situations?
Since I exchanged my Kaiser, I don't feel the unit getting hot anymore. The previous unit used to get v.hot using wi-fi and 3G/HSDPA - Possible fault?
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Scary... I experienced this for the first time last night. Was streaming some vid from my tversity server whilst on the mains charger. All of a sudden my Kaiser got extremely hot. I immediately stopped streaming and let it cool.
I don't think it stopped charging though but I guess it makes sense that it would be protected against overheating.
The only thing I can suggest is try charging with .5 amp... not actually sure that it would charge too well at that though, especially if you're giving it a good workout at the same time.
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Ok, I've been trying to get to the bottom of this problem for a long time.
I've got unilimited HSDPA GPRS on my Tilt, so I tether to my laptop. Kaiser is connected through a 1Amp powered USB hub to a laptop. Tilt was just lying on the desk, and I noticed several interesting things:
1. If Kaiser is at 100% charge - the green light (power) will stay on for a long time, about 40-60 minutes.
2. If Kaiser is NOT at 100% charge, it will charge (orange light) but won't reach 100%. It will stop charging in about 20-30 minutes.
3. If I put Kaiser on a cup, so that there's nothing under it and air moves freely all the way around the Kaiser - I get around 40-60 minutes of charging even when battery is less than 100%. If it is 100%, I can get up to 1.5 hours or so.
4. Whenether it stops charging - I notice that the back of Kaiser gets pretty high.
It seems to me that the problem with Kaiser stopping to charge when using HSDPA is caused by heat. There must be something on the hardware that turns off charging if the processor/MB/hardware is overheating. I guess charging the battery generates more heat than using the battery, or why else would it turn off charging when overheating?
Just thought that this, perhaps, would be interesting to some developers or people who have the same problem. Maybe someone can put Kaiser in front of a good fan and see what kind of result does that give - maybe it will keep charging.
Assuming that this is true, I don't suppose a fix is possible. Except for, perhaps, switching to slower connection (not applicable in my case) or putting kaiser on a bag of ice.
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Try without that 1Amp powered USB hub to a laptop....
1Amp is max i gues... so maby it's giving less, so it take a long time to get from 80% to 100% and yep lot off heat....
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What does the Batterystatus app read in all above situations?
Since I exchanged my Kaiser, I don't feel the unit getting hot anymore. The previous unit used to get v.hot using wi-fi and 3G/HSDPA - Possible fault?
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I don't use it anymore, but before, if I remember correctly, it showed around small charge (+) when light is on.. then, when phone stops charging it used to drop to full battery drain, around -400 MAh or something like that.
So you got a new Kaiser and it doesn't heat up when using HSDPA? Really?! Have you tried using HSDPA for a long time (actually using the traffic like tethering, MobiTV, etc..)
SatScan said:
Try without that 1Amp powered USB hub to a laptop....
1Amp is max i gues... so maby it's giving less, so it take a long time to get from 80% to 100% and yep lot off heat....
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I see exact same problems when connected to a AC power supply that it came with. Same problem when using car charger.. and same problem when powering by USB without the AC adapter.
Here's my theory... Lithium ion batteries have on-board microprocessors to protect the battery and device from damage. If the battery gets hot the processor will shut down the charging to prevent damage. No matter what tweaks you do to the device or modifications to the charger this on board processor will override and shut down charging if it deemed it was necessary.
-Jay
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I don't use it anymore, but before, if I remember correctly, it showed around small charge (+) when light is on.. then, when phone stops charging it used to drop to full battery drain, around -400 MAh or something like that.
So you got a new Kaiser and it doesn't heat up when using HSDPA? Really?! Have you tried using HSDPA for a long time (actually using the traffic like tethering, MobiTV, etc..)
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No, I said the replacement didn't get hot - read uncomfortably hot - It does get warm, but only in the same way it does when taking a long phone call. My first kaiser used to get extremely hot when charging which indicated a short somewhere. All is well now though.
I hope you can get this sorted though - are you able to get a replacement?
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No, I said the replacement didn't get hot - read uncomfortably hot - It does get warm, but only in the same way it does when taking a long phone call. My first kaiser used to get extremely hot when charging which indicated a short somewhere. All is well now though.
I hope you can get this sorted though - are you able to get a replacement?
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Ahh, I see.
Yeah I think I'd be able to... but mine doesn't get "extremely hot".. it's just.. warm to very warm. It seems normal for me, don't think it's heating anymore than it should.
Have anyone had this problem with 3G (not hsdpa)? Cuz if it happens in 3G as well - that means another reason to be pissed at HTC - they've design kaiser in such a way that you cannot charge and use HSDPA at the same time.
This problem can be easily recreated and a result from other user would tell if it some device or not.
HSPDA with streaming music while charging = warm
HSPDA with streaming video while charging device = Extremely hot
At this point the USB charging will shut off for whatever reason. I just wondering why the phone is putting out that much heat and can it cause problems since I am starting to stream video via HSPDA while charging a lot.
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Ahh, I see.
Yeah I think I'd be able to... but mine doesn't get "extremely hot".. it's just.. warm to very warm. It seems normal for me, don't think it's heating anymore than it should.
Have anyone had this problem with 3G (not hsdpa)? Cuz if it happens in 3G as well - that means another reason to be pissed at HTC - they've design kaiser in such a way that you cannot charge and use HSDPA at the same time.
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Maybe we finally figured out why they included the option to disable charging when connected to a PC..
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Maybe we finally figured out why they included the option to disable charging when connected to a PC..
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I was just thinking that on some systems it might have interfered with craptive sync. I never guessed that it was because of direct charging issues.
Do you still have problems if you are plugged into the OEM charger, and not a USB port or hub?
-Jay
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I was just thinking that on some systems it might have interfered with craptive sync. I never guessed that it was because of direct charging issues.
Do you still have problems if you are plugged into the OEM charger, and not a USB port or hub?
-Jay
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Yep. I tried tethering through WiFi (successfully), and same result. Maybe even heats up more, since now there's one more module to power up.
Somebody told me some time ago that iPod charger fixes these problems... can anybody confirm that?
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Yep. I tried tethering through WiFi (successfully), and same result. Maybe even heats up more, since now there's one more module to power up.
Somebody told me some time ago that iPod charger fixes these problems... can anybody confirm that?
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My Kaiser would get hot with a teathered WiFi data connection, but I don't think it ever stopped charging on me.
-Jay
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My Kaiser would get hot with a teathered WiFi data connection, but I don't think it ever stopped charging on me.
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Hmm.. sorry, but, are you sure? Try tetheting through a powered USB and.. I dunno.. do a big download or something, play an online game.. do something traffic intensive.. it should stop charging.. if it won't - hell, please let me know!
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i have an att tilt with the stock rom minus the bloatware.
when i installed battery status (basic version) i noticed that my charging became extremely slow. with the ac charger after the battery status install...it registered +350ma, then it fell to +110ma and wouldn't go any higher, no matter if i soft-reset or not...sometimes it was simply 0. i tried usb connection, ac connection, it didn't make a difference. the charging crawled along slower than i had ever seen it. 39%...40%..........41%. i had enough and i deleted battery status and softreset.
when i rebooted the phone, the battery immediately read 100% (from 41% before the reboot)!!!! and the charging was back to normal.
so my suggestion is to see if removing battery status...and see if that helps?
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That's really bizzare.. I had BS for a long time and never seen any problems, actually.. I just reflashed and haven't installed BS on it (I have no need for it now). We'll see if it makes any difference.. I hope it does.
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Hmm.. sorry, but, are you sure? Try tetheting through a powered USB and.. I dunno.. do a big download or something, play an online game.. do something traffic intensive.. it should stop charging.. if it won't - hell, please let me know!
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I never got teathering to work through USB. I'd either teather through WiFi or BT with the a/c charger plugged in. I'd imagine teathering through WiFi would be the worst. Most times I teather I'm just reading email, visiting various forums, and on rare occasions I'm downloading music. I'll have to try later and see what happens while I download music over a teathered WiFi connection...
-Jay
My Kaiser was absolutely baking last night.
I have a stuck pixel so was using a video that I found somewhere that you play on a continuous loop. The phone wasn't completely flat when I started playing the video but within half an hour or so the low batt notification popped up so I stuck it on charge (supplied mains charger).
I was connected to wifi but wasn't actually doing anything with it (video being played from sd card), in fact I wasn't even using the phone, it was just sat on the side charging and playing the video.
About an hour later I came back to the phone to find it was extremely hot. So hot the heat had travelled right through the phone body and even the screen was hot to touch and the battery was still flat so had clearly stopped charging.
I immediately switched the phone off and removed the battery, even then it took an age to cool down.
I don't know whether to get on to Orange for a replacement... I don't think it's right that it should get that hot.
This has been discussed before but some nice new information is coming out in this thread that ties a few things together.
The Lithium battery does have an onboard charging management system that will stop charge if the battery overheats but also if this heat is combined with high current drain. This should be at a precise point but I have experimented with three types of battery and get very different results between the three AND also between batteries of the same type.
The best performing battery seems to be the latest Samsung (P/N 35H00086-00M) with the external 'X' shaped heat spreader on the back that connects to the four earthing points in the battery compartment. Ealier batteries and some 3rd party batteries have this earthing spreader covered with potting compound or even omitted.
One other item I have found, a 1A rated USB port does not give a continous 1A output. Most ports are only rated at 1A surge and will only give out approx 600mA continuous before IT'S own thermal management system cuts off and kills the USB completely, this is probably the cause of comms loss by some people.
Nice informative thread DarkDvr.
So I thought my FRF91 had issues but now I'm thinking it's heat.
I was using FRF91 with Google Maps Navigation plugged into a cheap eBay car charger.
Within 20-30 seconds of running Navigation, the phone would reboot.
I did this 3 times in a row, and it would reboot.
I went back to FRF85B, and all was well.
Then I was thinking, the phone was pretty hot when this happened, I checked *#*#INFO#*#* and on FRF91 when it rebooted it was like 38C!!!
(Also on FRF85B, the Temp was in F and not C... weird).
Anyways, today I was driving around back on FRF91 and it crashed again (not plugged in) but was sitting on the dash and it got hot.
So anyone know, is FRF91 pretty sensitive to heat that it would reboot if it goes over a certain temp?
Anyone using a "brand" name car charger? Does your phone heat up?
I have a Belkin charger, and when using Navigation you could almost fry an egg on the thing.
same, i typically use nav and stream music in the N1 car dock, thing gets damn hot. wondering if i should put some sort of shade around it on the top ...
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So I thought my FRF91 had issues but now I'm thinking it's heat.
I was using FRF91 with Google Maps Navigation plugged into a cheap eBay car charger.
Within 20-30 seconds of running Navigation, the phone would reboot.
I did this 3 times in a row, and it would reboot.
I went back to FRF85B, and all was well.
Then I was thinking, the phone was pretty hot when this happened, I checked *#*#INFO#*#* and on FRF91 when it rebooted it was like 38C!!!
(Also on FRF85B, the Temp was in F and not C... weird).
Anyways, today I was driving around back on FRF91 and it crashed again (not plugged in) but was sitting on the dash and it got hot.
So anyone know, is FRF91 pretty sensitive to heat that it would reboot if it goes over a certain temp?
Anyone using a "brand" name car charger? Does your phone heat up?
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I don't know if this would be of any help, but since FRF91, when i charge my phone over USB (plugged on the computer), my phone gets auround 41°/42° C.
For information, it happens on MCR21 with default kernel, and just by letting the phone charging with screen on.
And since there, no reboot at all.
So i'm not sure your reboot prob would be heat related
If I'm running something heavy while charging on the car, I at least point the vent to it and turn it up to blow a good amount of air on it.. If it's hot, I'll go ahead and turn on the AC.
Kinda sucks gas milage, as I almost never use AC otherwise, but keeps the phone cool.
Anyone else have reboot with heat issues? I'm right now listening to podcast, and charging my phone and bam it reboots, then within 2 minutes it reboots again.
I check the temp and it's 38C. I pop out the battery and it's not even warm!!!!! The phone itself was hot. I unplug it and within 2 minutes the temp calls down to 35C.
Anyone got any ideas? This is all stock ATT Nexus One FRF91.
Pretty useless if I can't use the dang phone when it's charging.
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Ok good its not only me that noticed the heating issue..charging my phone it gets bananas and using the net is bad as well..going back to 85b
I'm having the exact same issue. Every time my phone gets even a little bit hot, it reboots itself. Maybe it's an issue with the ATT/Rogers N1 specifically, since the only people I've seen who have the problem are on those phones.
Same issue here. Was driving back up to CT from D.C. yesterday and the phone reboot during Google Navigation use.
Funny thing is, when I used it last week to drive down there for the holiday, there were no issues.
Could it have been the fact that it was scorching hot even with the AC running?
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I'm using N1 in Indonesia, tropical country with glaring sun all the time
Yesterday I'm trying to use sat nav without charging in the car, yes it was hot to touch
but never reboots, I'm also on FRF91.
But I think if the battery didn't die first it would reboot due its high temp.
I think what we experienced here is result of constant high usage of data + gps
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I'm having the exact same issue. Every time my phone gets even a little bit hot, it reboots itself. Maybe it's an issue with the ATT/Rogers N1 specifically, since the only people I've seen who have the problem are on those phones.
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No I have the Tmobile version (i'm using WIND) and it get mad hot..Through charging and anything net related (i only use wifi). As well connected to usb (obviously since it also charges).
My Nexus gets broiling hot when charging in "USB" mode - which you will get plugged into a USB port OR plugged into almost any non-HTC charger. Basically, it limits it to ~450ma draw, and I imagine that HTC didn't engineer this well and some wasted current just gets shunted as heat. This does NOT happen when charging in "AC" mode off of the HTC charger.
That waste heat may be a really stupid engineering problem, BUT, I've had my phone overclocked, plugged in to a 2A charger brick, but in USB mode, incredibly hot to the touch and showing 43deg or more while running graphics benchmarks or games, and I've never seen a problem. If "only" 38deg is giving you heat-related issues, that seems like a defect, and I'd look to get a warranty replacement before the board dies.
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My Nexus gets broiling hot when charging in "USB" mode - which you will get plugged into a USB port OR plugged into almost any non-HTC charger. Basically, it limits it to ~450ma draw, and I imagine that HTC didn't engineer this well and some wasted current just gets shunted as heat. This does NOT happen when charging in "AC" mode off of the HTC charger.
That waste heat may be a really stupid engineering problem, BUT, I've had my phone overclocked, plugged in to a 2A charger brick, but in USB mode, incredibly hot to the touch and showing 43deg or more while running graphics benchmarks or games, and I've never seen a problem. If "only" 38deg is giving you heat-related issues, that seems like a defect, and I'd look to get a warranty replacement before the board dies.
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completely agree but whats funny as the heat issue never happened with froyo 50-85
Hmmm. My problem is not simply the heat, but the fact that the slightest bit of heat seems to cause my N1 to reboot itself. Anyone having similar issues, or perhaps suggestions on what I can do? I've unlocked my bootloader, but I'm running stock firmware. Hopefully this isn't a hardware issue
My Nexus gets broiling hot when charging in "USB" mode - which you will get plugged into a USB port OR plugged into almost any non-HTC charger. Basically, it limits it to ~450ma draw, and I imagine that HTC didn't engineer this well and some wasted current just gets shunted as heat. This does NOT happen when charging in "AC" mode off of the HTC charger.
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This absolutely does not happen. The charge is limited by the power supply, the phone is pretty much "blind" to the source. A more likely cause is the phone is TRYING to pull the .5A of charge and only getting .45A, causing to attempt to compensate and thus running more inefficiently. Also, as far as heat goes, do you turn the screen off out leaver out on while charging the device?
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This absolutely does not happen. The charge is limited by the power supply, the phone is pretty much "blind" to the source. A more likely cause is the phone is TRYING to pull the .5A of charge and only getting .45A, causing to attempt to compensate and thus running more inefficiently. Also, as far as heat goes, do you turn the screen off out leaver out on while charging the device?
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REEEEEAAAAALY?
I sincerely hope that you meant to say that this absolutely does not happen to YOU.
There's been a ton about this, on this forum. There are two pins in the USB connection that, if they are open (like on a computer or with most chargers), cause the Nexus to see itself in "USB" mode, and to not draw more than ~.45-.50A. If those two pins are shorted, you get "AC" mode, and the phone will take up to about 1A.
I use several different bricks with the Nexus (iPhone brick - [email protected], iPad brick - spec'd as 10watt, several different thrid-party AC/USB bricks - all between 1.6 and 2.0A @ 5V, Milestone charger .9A @ 5.9v) and get the same story out of all of them - USB mode and a hot phone (36-38C with the screen off and the phone relatively inactive) during charging. I've never had the slightest performance problem, so I don't worry about it. If I use stock the N1 charger OR one other off-brand (so off-brand that there is nothing useful written on the case other than 2.0A @ 5V) charger, I get "AC" mode - where the phone accepts about .95A @5V, and does NOT get hot (32-34C during charge). This has been consistent with Eclair (stock and several Cyanogens) and every version of Froyo (FRF50, FRF83, FRF85B and FRF91).
My old BB Bold 9000 pulled over 1.5A @ 5V out of all of the 2A chargers that I have - it would fully charge in under an hour without getting hot. My wife's Curve 8900 charges fast as well - so I know that the chargers can do it. It's just the HTC hardware that limits the draw.
I say HTC, because I have confirmed the EXACT SAME behavior on a friend's HTC Desire. He was wondering why it took him all day to charge the phone off of a non-HTC power brick.
The phone is ABSOLUTELY not blind in this - it is the one drawing the current. I suspect that the USB-mode draw is just poorly done (at least on some phones), and there there is some leak. Maybe a specific hardware revision?
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completely agree but whats funny as the heat issue never happened with froyo 50-85
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That is weird, because it definitely did happen to me (using a plethora of different kernels and speeds). Are you running anything else non-stock (kernel, OC, UV, etc.) that you were not running before?
That is weird, because it definitely did happen to me (using a plethora of different kernels and speeds). Are you running anything else non-stock (kernel, OC, UV, etc.) that you were not running before?[/QUOTE]i just put back in paul froyo 50 and it heats a littel when charged but nothing out of the norm from many devices i've charged. The only other froyo i've used was Kang o rama (85B) which doesnt heat up for me..as soon as i put in any froyo 91 in i get mad heat...I currently gonna test with applications as maybe its an app that is causing it somehow..I could be completely wrong but worth a try..But as I said i'm back to pauls froyo 50 and no heating issues
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i just put back in paul froyo 50 and it heats a littel when charged but nothing out of the norm from many devices i've charged. The only other froyo i've used was Kang o rama (85B) which doesnt heat up for me..as soon as i put in any froyo 91 in i get mad heat...I currently gonna test with applications as maybe its an app that is causing it somehow..I could be completely wrong but worth a try..But as I said i'm back to pauls froyo 50 and no heating issues
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As long as you've got a running, reliable phone that does what you want and doesn't catch fire, you don't need the highest version number (says the guy who is now running CM nightly builds...).
If you feel like figuring out what is killing off your phone:
First, take a good backup!
Then, do a factory wipe and reload FRF91.
See if you get the same behavior. If you do, it's 91 on your phone. If not, it's one of your apps.
So, if you do not see the "unusual" heating, try restoring your applications and running them like you usually would. Try using a script (if you are up to it) or OS Monitor plus a logcat to see what is eating you up.
yeah i originally put in the old radio and went back to emother's 1.9.2...then put in pauls froyo 50 (which included the new radio). So far added my apps and no extreme heat. Only when on wi-fi but the heat i'm getting was the same i normal got in the beginning and minimal heat when ac charging (before it would get extremely hot). When i come home from work imma try his froyo 91. I'm thinkin it also is stemming from a game Hero of Sparta and a facebook chat app. If i'm correct thats when i first noticed heat issues. but could be wrong i'll let you know
when i have my phone in my car dock i have one of the vents in my car pointed at the thing blasting AC all over it!
helps so much!
So I was going to purchase the official htc car dock and I came across problems such as the phone failing to save the dock settings and overheating when placed in the car dock.
Can anyone whose has the dock please confirm if this is true? Does cyanogenmod allows the dock settings to be saved?
Umm..Since the Google store Closed today, where are you intending on buying the dock?
Also Most Phones will get hot when charging and using GPS Navigation and the same time, my G1 overheated and N1 does get warm.
Its becuase the Battery is being drained real fast, and trying to charged simulatneously.
Why don't they make some sort of circuit, that could bypass charging the batt. temporialy and run the phone off ac?
I have found that when charging, using GPS / Navigation and in the hot sun the N1 will get very hot. In fact I've had two sudden reboots which I believe were overheating.
It works fine if you only plug in the charger for short periods of time ... which is enough to keep it going.
The BT speakerphone worked well with the stock FroYo but I think there may be issues with CM6.0 RTM. The BT connects but I've only had a couple of calls and I am not sure if it was using the N1's speakerphone or the car mount's speakerphone.
I have had one or two calls not use the dock for audio and instead use the built in speaker, but other than that it's great. The phone gets warm, but so does using the wall charger that came with the phone. It has never overheated.
But as mentioned before, unless you have already purchased the dock you are probably out of luck. I don't know where you could buy one now that the store is closed.
The N1 has a bug whereas sometimes when it's plugged in being charged, the touch screen goes wacky and becomes either unresponsive or the touch positions are way off. I've found that simply pressing the top button to turn the screen off then back on fixes it right away.
This is probably the issue you're been reading about. That aside the dock is great and have no qualms recommending it.
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The N1 has a bug whereas sometimes when it's plugged in being charged, the touch screen goes wacky and becomes either unresponsive or the touch positions are way off. I've found that simply pressing the top button to turn the screen off then back on fixes it right away.
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i've had that too, but not when it was docked, i was playing skies of glory and downloading something via 3G in the background, and it was pretty hot outside, so it did the same thing..
about the car dock, the phone does get hot, but it never failed me inside the car dock, you can also turn your A/C to go to the windscreen to keep it a bit cooler.
With Eclair i had the problem that when it was in the dock and i got a call it never actually used the dock for the phone call, now in Froyo that works just fine, i get a call, the trackball flashes blue and i can hear and talk through the dock audio.
It's definetly worth buying, i didn't have any major issues with it yet!
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The N1 has a bug whereas sometimes when it's plugged in being charged, the touch screen goes wacky and becomes either unresponsive or the touch positions are way off. I've found that simply pressing the top button to turn the screen off then back on fixes it right away.
This is probably the issue you're been reading about. That aside the dock is great and have no qualms recommending it.
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I have this problem too. Do all n1s have this? I was about to return mine.
I bought a dock and wall charger from Amazon a few weeks ago for my Nexus S. The dock works fine, but when I plug my phone into the wall charger it makes the touchscreen do very odd things. It starts to get very laggy, and it also seems to misjudge where I touch or tap by a great distance. When I unplug my phone from this charger it works correctly again. This problem doesn't happen with the charger that came with the phone itself. Any idea why this could be happening?
The charger you bought is likely not sufficiently isolated from mains. Some part of the mains frequency might leak through and confuse the touch sensor.
Mind, I am not saying that it is not safe to use.
Sorry to come into your thread to ask a question.
But I have a question about charger too.
At home, I use the original charger that came with Nexus S. My battery seems to last very long.
At dorm, I use the so called Samsung charger I bought from eBay [it says it's legit and it sure looks like one] but battery doesn't seem to last as long as I would expect.
Settings and usage/variables are not exactly same but - for example, I got 22 hours with 40% left with home setting, while I would have to charge my phone usually after 6-8 hours at dorm.
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The charger you bought is likely not sufficiently isolated from mains. Some part of the mains frequency might leak through and confuse the touch sensor.
Mind, I am not saying that it is not safe to use.
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I'm thinking at this point I'm not going to risk it
johnkim0011 said:
At home, I use the original charger that came with Nexus S. My battery seems to last very long.
At dorm, I use the so called Samsung charger I bought from eBay [it says it's legit and it sure looks like one] but battery doesn't seem to last as long as I would expect.
Settings and usage/variables are not exactly same but - for example, I got 22 hours with 40% left with home setting, while I would have to charge my phone usually after 6-8 hours at dorm.
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Try swapping the chargers to test. But I honestly think it is not the charger's fault, if your battery is full both times. More likely there are other circumstances, like bad reception, or your phone is searching for wlan all the time or whatever. Try going to the battery monitor in settings somewhere, there you can see what it using power. I can't direct you there exactly because I have a non-english language running.
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I'm thinking at this point I'm not going to risk it
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As I said, your charger very likely is just as safe as all the other Chinese electronic stuff. It is just not filtered/stabilized enough and so it confuses the touch screen. Keep in mind that the touch screen works by sensing a very small capacity change. Some overlaid interference can probably easily disturb it.
Has anyone figured out how to make the phone stay in dock mode when the wireless charging hits 100%? I am getting tired of my phone pulsating throughout the night as it turns off at 100% and turns back on at 98%. My clock app goes away when the charging turns off and lights up my room like daylight. I have tried using tasker and the magnetic field sensor, but that is not very reliable. I have tried other tasker profiles but can't seem to figure out a good mix of variables. I also tried using an NFC tag on the dock and the app Trigger to start the app, but that only works when I first put it on the charger. It doesn't have an Exit Task like Tasker does.
This is really annoying and a pretty crappy "feature". Anyone?
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Has anyone figured out how to make the phone stay in dock mode when the wireless charging hits 100%? I am getting tired of my phone pulsating throughout the night as it turns off at 100% and turns back on at 98%. My clock app goes away when the charging turns off and lights up my room like daylight. I have tried using tasker and the magnetic field sensor, but that is not very reliable. I have tried other tasker profiles but can't seem to figure out a good mix of variables. I also tried using an NFC tag on the dock and the app Trigger to start the app, but that only works when I first put it on the charger. It doesn't have an Exit Task like Tasker does.
This is really annoying and a pretty crappy "feature". Anyone?
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use niteclock free
works great for me make sure you get this one:
Night Clock by
Gubbel
Can I ask why you suggest that one? I have a couple alarm apps that I could probably just open myself, but I'd like to be able to put my phone on the charger and have it open automatically and stay open until I take it off the charger. Does Night Clock have settings for this kind of situation?
xious1 said:
Can I ask why you suggest that one? I have a couple alarm apps that I could probably just open myself, but I'd like to be able to put my phone on the charger and have it open automatically and stay open until I take it off the charger. Does Night Clock have settings for this kind of situation?
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a few reasons:
1: first it works with wireless charging on my nigntstand
2: turns off hard buttons
3: dims to my liking per settings
4: moves as a screensvaer
5 most important stays on after charger is full
I suppose a round-about way of solving this problem is to just use a wired charger, and save the wireless one for your desk or something, so that you don't have to worry about it acting up in the middle of the night. There's no terrific advantage to having wireless charging, IMO, so just be practical and use the wire.
avilancaster said:
I suppose a round-about way of solving this problem is to just use a wired charger, and save the wireless one for your desk or something, so that you don't have to worry about it acting up in the middle of the night. There's no terrific advantage to having wireless charging, IMO, so just be practical and use the wire.
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I would do that if they made a dock for the Turbo. Unfortunately, Motorola doesn't put out docks for their phones like they used to. Now you have to buy a generic one that doesn't fit properly. I ended up creating a Tasker task that opens my clock app and doesn't allow it to close, so I have to close the app manually every morning but that's just being picky. It works pretty well, so I'm happy now.
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I would do that if they made a dock for the Turbo. Unfortunately, Motorola doesn't put out docks for their phones like they used to. Now you have to buy a generic one that doesn't fit properly. I ended up creating a Tasker task that opens my clock app and doesn't allow it to close, so I have to close the app manually every morning but that's just being picky. It works pretty well, so I'm happy now.
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Interesting course of action. thanks for sharing!
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I would do that if they made a dock for the Turbo. Unfortunately, Motorola doesn't put out docks for their phones like they used to. Now you have to buy a generic one that doesn't fit properly. I ended up creating a Tasker task that opens my clock app and doesn't allow it to close, so I have to close the app manually every morning but that's just being picky. It works pretty well, so I'm happy now.
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I'm having trouble getting tasker to see my dock. What settings you have the mag sensor set to. And are you able to get the clock to go into night mode?
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I'm having trouble getting tasker to see my dock. What settings you have the mag sensor set to. And are you able to get the clock to go into night mode?
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I just set Tasker to launch my clock app (Dock Clock Plus) when it detects wireless charging. I tried to use the mag sensor, but I could never get consistent results. The Dock Clock Plus app has a setting to go to night mode automatically at certain times. So I have it set for night mode from 9pm to 8am. So if I dock my phone outside those times, it stays bright.