so i have the infamous samsung moment. you wanna know what really sucks about it? i listened to grooveshark for 10 minutes today. 10 minutes! the battery was at 75% when i started. when i was done, it was at 50%! yes, ive flashed to stock, yes ive tried other roms, yes ive done it all. disabled JIT, had the barest rom ever, and i still cant get a good battery life. so im pretty much set on switching to a new phone. but i need to know what the downfalls of the hero are. is battery life horendous? does it get really hot when you leave it in your pocket? how functional are the 2.2 roms? how much can i optimize it? give me all the info possible, especially stuff about signal strength and battery life. and rooting too, how easy is that? it seems a little unnecassarily complicated on the moment... thanks
Skip the hero and get an epic or evo....or wait a few more weeks and see what else there is. Sprint has already forgotten about the hero.
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i have like no money. id love to get one of those, but i barely got the moment to begin with. im only 15 btw
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There's a few 1-click methods for rooting your Hero, so not complicated at all. Also, Hero battery life is pretty decent. Mine lasts all day and then some with moderate use. Other people get some ridiculous battery life out of their Heros with a combination of Decad3nce's kernels and Collin's battery tweak.
CM6 2.2 is more than fully functional I would say. The only problem I've ever had with it was the camera freezing and having to reboot my phone, but with the latest themed CM6 Roms (I.E. Redglass, Extremely Blue, etc), I've yet to have the same problem.
The only time my phone ever got hot was running Wireless Tether and pushing constant data through it for a few hours +.
One of the moderators on the Hero forums (impaler, I believe) has a link in his signature to a website that has about 6 or 7 radios that are compatible with the Hero and the signal strength that you'll receive amongst the radios will depend on your location, but flash these at your own risk as they have the possibility to turn your Hero into a shiny paperweight.
the hero is a nice device. the 4g devices arent worth the premium. data will never be worth what they charge even WITHOUT the ten dollar upcharge on the terribly bulky epic or the over sized evo. no sense getting a 'flagship' device because they change constantly. soon we'll have dual core procs on these phones and even then, consumers wont be happy.
get the hero, my stock rooted is faster/more responsive than my friends stock evo
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There's a few 1-click methods for rooting your Hero, so not complicated at all. Also, Hero battery life is pretty decent. Mine lasts all day and then some with moderate use. Other people get some ridiculous battery life out of their Heros with a combination of Decad3nce's kernels and Collin's battery tweak.
CM6 2.2 is more than fully functional I would say. The only problem I've ever had with it was the camera freezing and having to reboot my phone, but with the latest themed CM6 Roms (I.E. Redglass, Extremely Blue, etc), I've yet to have the same problem.
The only time my phone ever got hot was running Wireless Tether and pushing constant data through it for a few hours +.
One of the moderators on the Hero forums (impaler, I believe) has a link in his signature to a website that has about 6 or 7 radios that are compatible with the Hero and the signal strength that you'll receive amongst the radios will depend on your location, but flash these at your own risk as they have the possibility to turn your Hero into a shiny paperweight.
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wow thats a good chunk of info. im pretty much set on getting one now. one more thing, it has to do with overclocking. i *could* overclock my moment to 1.06 ghz, but if i can kill this with 40 minutes of music, thats not gonna happen anytime soon. i know that many hero roms, by default, overclock to 700something, quite a bit up from the measily 560ish that is stock. with either a replacement battery or one of those battery hacks you mentioned (or both ), would it balance out the power needed to run the processor faster? and make it run for 8-10 hours while im at school all day? thanks for all the good feedback guys. now i just need to find someone selling one thats not too scuffed up
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get the hero, my stock rooted is faster/more responsive than my friends stock evo
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Your friend must have jacked up his evo because my wife has one and it blows my OC'ed hero out of the water (CM6.1). You especially notice the speed in the browser and the games that I download on it without permission.
I agree the $10 extra a month is hard to swallow. Just remember that 2 years is a long time to commit to an older phone.
Hero is a nice device. It is small and does not feel like a brick in your pocket. The battery life is not bad. I have not tried any battery tweaks, but with some minor tweaks, I can get anywhere between 18-24 hours on a full charge. The only time I have felt the phone get hot is while wireless tethering.
I got it new earlier this year and as time progressed, I was getting annoyed with some of it's shortcomings, due to the software provided by Sprint. It felt slow, could not utilize the SD card for apps and such. The last straw was when "The Powers" said they won't be giving the Hero any more Android updates...
So, I rooted it and put CM6 (stable). Since then, I have been feeling like a child with a whole new toy. It works amazing, plus no extra 4G surcharge... .
oh something else i thought of. i think the hero has multitouch, please confirm. does it also have flash player? if it doesnt have either, thats ok. the moment has neither
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yeah its got multi touch. it doesnt have full flash, officially anyway.
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wow thats a good chunk of info. im pretty much set on getting one now. one more thing, it has to do with overclocking. i *could* overclock my moment to 1.06 ghz, but if i can kill this with 40 minutes of music, thats not gonna happen anytime soon. i know that many hero roms, by default, overclock to 700something, quite a bit up from the measily 560ish that is stock. with either a replacement battery or one of those battery hacks you mentioned (or both ), would it balance out the power needed to run the processor faster? and make it run for 8-10 hours while im at school all day? thanks for all the good feedback guys. now i just need to find someone selling one thats not too scuffed up
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What the battery tweak does is clock your CPU based on certain variables. You can set it's max and minimum limits whilest the phone is running on battery/USB power/AC power. Also, you can change it so it reduces the max CPU usage when the battery is below a certain percentage, as to suck the most time out of your battery.
I have my tweak settings maxed out at 729 mhz for any given variable and a min 176 mhz. My phone lasts all day and then some, for sure. I woke up with it at 75% (put it in airplane mode for the night because I was too lazy to find the charger) and currently it's at 55% after 8 1/2 hours of moderate use.
Results may vary, of course.
edit: I carry around an extra charged battery just in case. There's a Taiwanese vendor on eBay selling 2 spare batters + a wall charger (charges your external batteries without needing your phone with the option of USB charging as well) -- all for $12 or something. Definitely worth it and I think there's a post in the accessories forum with the link to it. Not sure if it died by now or not.
Good luck!
thanks for all this info guys! im cant wait to be able to get one of these things for myself!!! the hard part is the ebay bidding. i already lost 2 auctions that i was aiming for, trying for another one tonight, then done for the day. anywhere else that i might look to get an unlocked hero besides craigslist? i wont buy off there, no way.
EDIT: i finally won a hero off ebay!!! i got it for $110. i think thats a pretty good deal! but i was thinking about the rooting process, and i like the idea of a one click root, but i need a little more info. does the one click root install a recovery also? if it doesnt, is it possible that ROM Manager works with the Hero, and i can install clockwork recovery? i really appreciate all your info guys. thanks a bunch
im starting to feel really bad because im bumping this thread quite a bit, but i have so many questions, and my searches arent showing anything is there a way for me to bring a backup of the /data partition on my moment over to my hero? in the moments recovery, there is an option to backup the /data partition to a .tar or some sort of archive. is it possible that i could take that to the hero, load it, then create a simple nandroid backup? because i hate having to reload all my apps and preferences. thanks for all the help guys, i really REALLY do appreciate it.
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im starting to feel really bad because im bumping this thread quite a bit, but i have so many questions, and my searches arent showing anything im looking for the one click root that was spoke of earlier in the thread. can someone link me to it?
also, is there a way for me to bring a backup of the /data partition on my moment over to my hero? in the moments recovery, there is an option to backup the /data partition to a .tar or some sort of archive. is it possible that i could take that to the hero, load it, then create a simple nandroid backup? because i hate having to reload all my apps and preferences. thanks for all the help guys, i really REALLY do appreciate it.
EDIT: wait a second... does http://unrevoked.com/original/ really work? can someone confirm this for me?
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The unrevoked method really works, yes.
Personally, I used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682 on my girlfriend's Hero, but I'm not sure about the Recovery, after trying a few different rooting methods, the Recovery just appeared after rebooting, so I'm not sure which one did it.
The method I used to root my Hero is long outdated and was used for Android 1.5 Heros, so no help there.
About the /data backup on your Palm, I highly doubt it. Not natively compatible for sure.
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im starting to feel really bad because im bumping this thread quite a bit, but i have so many questions, and my searches arent showing anything is there a way for me to bring a backup of the /data partition on my moment over to my hero? in the moments recovery, there is an option to backup the /data partition to a .tar or some sort of archive. is it possible that i could take that to the hero, load it, then create a simple nandroid backup? because i hate having to reload all my apps and preferences. thanks for all the help guys, i really REALLY do appreciate it.
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Just start fresh on the hero. Put unrevoked on your hero(if you have firmware 2.27.651.5..... if it ends in .6 or .7 you will have to find the .5 somewhere and downgrade first, it's simple)
After using unrevoked, download Rom Manager from the market and flash clockworkmod recovery. Nandroid backup and then you can start flashing different ROMs.... I love the Cyanogenmod 2.2 builds....have fun!!!!!
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im starting to feel really bad because im bumping this thread quite a bit, but i have so many questions, and my searches arent showing anything is there a way for me to bring a backup of the /data partition on my moment over to my hero? in the moments recovery, there is an option to backup the /data partition to a .tar or some sort of archive. is it possible that i could take that to the hero, load it, then create a simple nandroid backup? because i hate having to reload all my apps and preferences. thanks for all the help guys, i really REALLY do appreciate it.
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Here's a great site for you....should have everything you need plus a garbage load more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Hero_CDMA.png
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The unrevoked method really works, yes.
Personally, I used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682 on my girlfriend's Hero, but I'm not sure about the Recovery, after trying a few different rooting methods, the Recovery just appeared after rebooting, so I'm not sure which one did it.
The method I used to root my Hero is long outdated and was used for Android 1.5 Heros, so no help there.
About the /data backup on your Palm, I highly doubt it. Not natively compatible for sure.
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its not a palm... its a samsung moment that would quite peculiar if i tried to bring a webos backup to android... but i probably will start over. i have a bunch of crap on my phone anyhow. it would be a good thing.
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Here's a great site for you....should have everything you need plus a garbage load more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Hero_CDMA.png
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oh boy! thats alot of stuff! thanks alot for that! i didnt know xda had a wiki... but then again, sdx has one too, so i should have known.
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Just start fresh on the hero. Put unrevoked on your hero(if you have firmware 2.27.651.5..... if it ends in .6 or .7 you will have to find the .5 somewhere and downgrade first, it's simple)
After using unrevoked, download Rom Manager from the market and flash clockworkmod recovery. Nandroid backup and then you can start flashing different ROMs.... I love the Cyanogenmod 2.2 builds....have fun!!!!!
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yep, i read about the OTA updates to block the rooting. but take a look at this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=753910). this implies that you can root the .6 OTA. is that a typo, or legit? the wiki link above also says that .6 is rootable. i know how to downgrade if necessary, though. as far as the unrevoked rooting, i was right then! unrevoked then rom manager will do the trick? awesome thats way easy. and i know that i change recoveries within rom manager... i think im set guys! thanks alot for all your help. ill be sitting on that wiki link for a while. im gonna read all i can before my hero comes im super duper excited!!! and i will have fun!!! i plan on flashing CM6 anyhow
.6 and .7 are both rootable, no need to downgrade.
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.6 and .7 are both rootable, no need to downgrade.
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how do i root .7 if thats what my phone comes with? will unrevoked do .5 .6 and .7?
steve19137 said:
how do i root .7 if thats what my phone comes with? will unrevoked do .5 .6 and .7?
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In the Development section, check for the Easy Root thread. Takes about 3 minutes.
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I have my HTC Vogue Touch flashed to android... Just foud out I have a free upgrade from Sprint and thinking about the HTC Hero..
doing some research before I get it as I love customizing this stuff and there looks to be plenty of ROMs here...
my first question being: aside from apps2sd what is the main reason for booting these ROMs? It even looks like the camera doesn't work in many of them. (which surprised me considering the phone is droid - stock)..
second question: I can see the rooting guides but not how to flash the HERo to any of these ROMs.. or am I missing something here?
Thanks..
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I have my HTC Vogue Touch flashed to android... Just foud out I have a free upgrade from Sprint and thinking about the HTC Hero..
doing some research before I get it as I love customizing this stuff and there looks to be plenty of ROMs here...
my first question being: aside from apps2sd what is the main reason for booting these ROMs? It even looks like the camera doesn't work in many of them. (which surprised me considering the phone is droid - stock)..
second question: I can see the rooting guides but not how to flash the HERo to any of these ROMs.. or am I missing something here?
Thanks..
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get the evo or wait for the galaxy s pro
The Hero is still a worthy phone.
thanks for the advice..
an explanation as to why would be nice
and an answer to my other inquiries as well if possible..
i do love my hero but if i had an upgrade right now i wouldnt go to a "last gen" phone
evo is a step up from the hero in every spec and is 4G!!!!!
the samsung galaxy will be very comparable to the evo but seems a little faster on the processing side
most of these roms are 2.1 which is complete exept for a couple bugs here and there. The roms that are dev'ing are the 2.2 roms which needs to be made from the ground up.
Sputnikk23 said:
I have my HTC Vogue Touch flashed to android... Just foud out I have a free upgrade from Sprint and thinking about the HTC Hero..
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sweet good for you!
doing some research before I get it as I love customizing this stuff and there looks to be plenty of ROMs here...
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we do have a ton of roms...
my first question being: aside from apps2sd what is the main reason for booting these ROMs? It even looks like the camera doesn't work in many of them. (which surprised me considering the phone is droid - stock)..
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the custom roms are faster/better than the sprint rom.
the camera works in all the roms as far as i know? there was a time when the camera didn't work because HTC were being Dbags and withholding the kernel source, but toast solved that problem. the only rom atm without camera AFAIK is the froyo dev build.
second question: I can see the rooting guides but not how to flash the HERo to any of these ROMs.. or am I missing something here?
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once you root if you use the guides then they will show you how to flash a updated/custom recovery. then flashing roms is easy. boot into recovery and choose
Code:
flash update.zip
BOOM isn't that easy.
Thanks..
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welcome.
Sputnikk23 said:
I have my HTC Vogue Touch flashed to android... Just foud out I have a free upgrade from Sprint and thinking about the HTC Hero..
doing some research before I get it as I love customizing this stuff and there looks to be plenty of ROMs here...
my first question being: aside from apps2sd what is the main reason for booting these ROMs? It even looks like the camera doesn't work in many of them. (which surprised me considering the phone is droid - stock)..
second question: I can see the rooting guides but not how to flash the HERo to any of these ROMs.. or am I missing something here?
Thanks..
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question 1. besides apps2sd the main reason for booting roms is looks and customization in my oppinion. you can change around the keyboard the lock screen the menu options even remove the terrible bloatware included on the phone. plus an upside is speed - remove the files eating all your battery life and take that battery life and put it to overclocking the cpu.
as for the camera i don't know what you are talking about. almost every rom i've installed has the camera working correctly. sometimes a file is removed to make the phone run faster and the camera doesn't work but most of the times the camera is fixed pretty fast.
question 2. rooting your phone gives you access to files on your phone otherwise not able to delete. i.e. bloatware. by rooting your phone you can remove these files or adjust them how you want. now the ROM is a customization of android x.x that you flash to your hero that otherpeople have customized themselves. like removing the bloatware for you or using a custom kernel to make your phone run faster. or just changing around the entire look of android.
The Hero is a fantastic phone and can do many things. i would say upgrade and don't look back. but if you want a snapdragon CPU get the Evo. which is also an awesome phone. (but quite a bit more expensive)
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get the evo or wait for the galaxy s pro
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totally ignore the last part. Samsung is terrible also am I crazy or doesn't need to be in a different section?
I see someone else posted about the camera..
Every single current rom we have, has a working camera. Aside from froyo 2.2, that hasnt been publicly released yet (it will soon though).
And rom currently up-to-date within the past month, should have everything working. You might run in to a few bugs, but most are user errors or can be simply fixed.
The hero is still a great phone with many months left in it. The Evo though is still the #1 choice, and i would get one if i could.
And person above me.. No you are not crazy. Should be in general section or Q & A
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get the evo or wait for the galaxy s pro
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vetvito said:
The Hero is still a worthy phone.
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both of these statements are completely true.
the Hero is actually quite awesome, lots of potential in it still, and my guess is the 2.2 will run on it just swimmingly.
that being said... if you can get one cheap, do it! But frankly, if you have upgrade credit coming to you, use it on a newer gen phone... or I would anyway. sadly, there will be less ROMs/mods/community/whathaveyou for it, balanced by a sense of adventure exploring new territory with other ROMflash addicts and ROMcookers!
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totally ignore the last part. Samsung is terrible also am I crazy or doesn't need to be in a different section?
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ya know what? your right!
Hero's a great phone.
Unbeatable combination of style, size, power, and functionality.
EVO's only better if you have no aesthetic considerations to ahm... consider.
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sweet good for you!
once you root if you use the guides then they will show you how to flash a updated/custom recovery. then flashing roms is easy. boot into recovery and choose
Code:
flash update.zip
BOOM isn't that easy.
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still a bit confused. probably will make more sense once I get the phone.
for instance i'm looking at this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583291
point me to another one if there is something better...
I assume I put the ROMs on the SD card (andboot folder maybe? thats what it was on my vogue) and going into recovery console to select the "flash update.zip" will wipe the phone and install the custom ROM?
also, where can I gain clarification on these new acronyms to me such as JIT?
I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually.. Afterall, I am a certified MS Server Admin and CCNA network admin.. hhaha
thanks for your help. great community here. hopefully i'll be sticking around.
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still a bit confused. probably will make more sense once I get the phone.
for instance i'm looking at this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583291
point me to another one if there is something better...
I assume I put the ROMs on the SD card (andboot folder maybe? thats what it was on my vogue) and going into recovery console to select the "flash update.zip" will wipe the phone and install the custom ROM?
also, where can I gain clarification on these new acronyms to me such as JIT?
I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually.. Afterall, I am a certified MS Server Admin and CCNA network admin.. hhaha
thanks for your help. great community here. hopefully i'll be sticking around.
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that guide is old.
THIS ONE
will work for 2.1 which is what the hero has now.
you can google JIT. google google google. all the questions have been answered at some point or another, its better to read someone's post than make a new post about the same thing thousands of other people have already asked about.
Ok found it. At first all I got were links to roms with JIT on it.
So after rooting, I basically get back into the recovery console and select flash from zip sdcard? Heck of alot easier than the Vogue I tell you that...
Thanks for the link
Another edit: Do the custom roms have multiple home page screens you can scroll to? On my vogue 1.6 droid I have like 5 home screens I can put shortcuts on. I just watched a HTC hero video on sprint and on the customizing video it didn't look like that was there.
I'm not saying the Hero isn't a good phone.. I'm saying if you have an upgrade, get the Evo or you'll be upset later. The phone is so much faster... 4g.. double cameras..big screen...
Bad better life, and it's a brick. I wouldn't use an upgrade on an old gen phone.
I just become a Sprint Preferred or whatever.. by having a plan over $70 and paying on time for 6 months.. I get my free upgrade in February. I definitely won't even consider the Evo.. I'll be looking at the next big thing.
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Ok found it. At first all I got were links to roms with JIT on it.
So after rooting, I basically get back into the recovery console and select flash from zip sdcard? Heck of alot easier than the Vogue I tell you that...
Thanks for the link
Another edit: Do the custom roms have multiple home page screens you can scroll to? On my vogue 1.6 droid I have like 5 home screens I can put shortcuts on. I just watched a HTC hero video on sprint and on the customizing video it didn't look like that was there.
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there are 7 screens you can put apps and widgets on. 1 home then 3 to the left and right.
Remember the movie Mad Max? Or was it the Road Warrior? It doesn't matter. The quote is still valid.
Speed is a question of money. How fast can you afford to go?
If you can afford it, get the Evo. If you want a cheaper, yet still awe phone, get the Hero. Then use your savings for a bigger SDHC card and Bluetooth headphones and other coolness.
I agree that the phone has a lot left in it, but a lot of devs from several phones have jumped shipped to the Evo. I'm sticking with my Hero for another year atleast, unless a real good deal comes up.
If you want to save money I would get ther Hero as it it a lot cheaper than the Evo and you will also save the $10 extra a month. That and the Evo is too damn big. To me it was uncomfortable to hold and use with one hand.
Not only can you flash /install new roms, but with a little research you can mod the rom your self and theme it how you want. Also wireless tether is awesome and the Overclocking and Undervolting is making the phone better and faster.
Ok so I spent a few days trolling.
Looks like I'm going to have to flash the old RUU since I did the 2.1 update, then follow guide, then the custom ROM.
Question though, I'm stuck on picking one: Some are very nicely featured but I don't like the default look on any of them or the themes available in a 2nd/3rd post of the ROMs thread; generically speaking, is any themes compatible with any ROM? For instance, the Cyanogen mods you can Google to dark corners of the internet...
I apologize in advance for not researching this properly myself (in fact I'm usually doing stuff like this for other people), but I am simply overwhelmed by the plethora of information and unlimited posts of ROMs, OC kernels, and all that. I am no longer android retarded; That's for sure.
But I have a busy weekend here looking for an apartment and moving, and I just don't have the time (really) to sift through all this stuff! There's just too much! But in the meantime, the lag I am experiencing on the Hero is pissing me the **** off and I know it can be better, even "snappier" at 768.
I was hoping you guys would be able to give you opinion at the very least on this. I really wish you could just flash once and have everything set-up, but that would be too convenient. I would have to make sure the kernel doesn't break functionality, that the kernel actually works with the rom in the first place, flash the kernel, find a matching wifi module to match the damn kernel, flash the damn module... you get the picture.
So please guys, help me out here! I AM overwhelmed in every sense of the word, and I need your help.
1. Opinions on most stable ROM with most features.
2. Recs for an OC Kernel that will work with it!
3. The wifi module to go along with it.
4. Anything else I'm forgetting...
Thanks in advance and I apologize again for not doing it on my own. I just can't...lol.
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Word - subscribed. Just bought a Hero for my gf, trying to get it proper, but man, I used to do this with HTC WinMo phones, and this is the exact reason I went to iPhone platform - too much reading, maintenance, reflashing etc (read: TIME) to get the phone to work the way you want. So, I opted to just lose any choice or control over the matter and have a phone that works fine enough and has good app ecosystem
But, I want to get her phone at least fast and stable (most important), I think I'm throwing 2.1 with the .6 update, and will just downgrade to root in the future if we really need wifi tether.
If there is some good info in this thread on which ROM and which kernel with minimum hackish patches etc to make it all work, then I'll go to that! I'm hoping someone just finds a root exploit for .6 since it seems there are some good lag fixes in that update as well.
I'm hoping someone just finds a root exploit for .6 since it seems there are some good lag fixes in that update as well.
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So is the method to root on 2.1 .5 version and then install this ROM over the top (which keeps your root)?
yep, you got it
Wow..
So I finally got some time to do even minimal research and came across these:
ZenHeroFX 2.0 ROM
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731951
Darchstar's Kernels
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705074
I wiped everything (including battery *whatever*), flashed the rom, flashed the 768MHZ kernel, flashed the % battery meter, and the 2.0 update for the ROM. I never expected it to boot the first time... BUT IT DID! Holy ****! Really?
Now, after setting frequency with SetCPU this thing flies! I cannot describe the difference. Holy ****-BALLS! Finally no lag at all, not even at the keyboard. And no overheating. I couldn't have asked for a more perfect flash!
DrunkenOstrich: This is the perfect setup for you! It worked the first try for me with no issues at all. Just follow the directions step-by-step and you will be good! Also, don't trip out on how long it takes to boot or if it's slow at first. Give it a few minutes to sync up and everything will be badass.
God I feel like such a noob after proofreading this post. lol.
wow... thanks
Ok... thank you so much for doing this. I am in the same boat as you as far as time to research everything goes. I had rooted my 1.5 hero last november and recently upgraded to 2.1. Just reverted to .5 so I could root but was totally lost as far as what ROM would keep me as close to stock as possible.
My goals were to find a ROM that allows me to 1)remove some bloatware, 2) overclock, 3) possibly wifi tether and 4) further improve battery life. I just didnt want to lose any functionality since I really love the hero. Only thing is since this upgrade, it's a slug. OP, Do you think using the ROM/Kernel pair you installed I'd be happy considering my goals?
there's one good way to find out. if you don't like it you can always do a nandroid.
theresthatguy said:
there's one good way to find out. if you don't like it you can always do a nandroid.
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agreed... going to root later on tonight and i'll try both... looking forward to no more lag and some fresh new changes to the UI
Thought I would get more of a performance boost... installed SetCPU and tweaked some settings and its a little better
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But, where should I start?
Is it really necessery to flash a custom ROM, or is this phone snappy enough with Sense (but I'll probably use GoLauncher or LauncherPro, I only use 1 homescreen...)?
Which tweaks are really necessery to make the phone's battery survive for more than 24 hours, when texting pretty much?
Perhaps the phone's battery survives even though I text a lot (between 100-500 texts/day, depending on how bored I am)?
How's the vibrator in this phone, can I have it in silent mode and have it in my pocket and actually notice when I get a text?
My current phone's vibrator is pretty crappy.
I've been browsing this forum for some time now but haven't found anything that answers my questions... I come from an Acer Liquid A1, without CM7 or MIUI that phone is probably one of the worst phones ever done. But, I sure hope this community is just as active as the one the Liquid had, and still have
(lol, "is this a question?" eh, it's many questions... )
oh, and one more thing; is this device brickable? or can you always reset it to default, like with the liquid? if something f...s up you can always boot into bootloader and reflash a *.bin
Help a newbie to get started, and flashing things and stuff is nothing new. Only the way to root it is new for me... :/
Regards,
Me
(hopefully I haven't missed a thread that answers all my questions, but of what I've found I haven't found anything that actually helps me. if I've missed it, just link to it and remove this thread )
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But, where should I start?
Is it really necessery to flash a custom ROM, or is this phone snappy enough with Sense (but I'll probably use GoLauncher or LauncherPro, I only use 1 homescreen...)?
Which tweaks are really necessery to make the phone's battery survive for more than 24 hours, when texting pretty much?
Perhaps the phone's battery survives even though I text a lot (between 100-500 texts/day, depending on how bored I am)?
How's the vibrator in this phone, can I have it in silent mode and have it in my pocket and actually notice when I get a text?
My current phone's vibrator is pretty crappy.
I've been browsing this forum for some time now but haven't found anything that answers my questions... I come from an Acer Liquid A1, without CM7 or MIUI that phone is probably one of the worst phones ever done. But, I sure hope this community is just as active as the one the Liquid had, and still have
(lol, "is this a question?" eh, it's many questions... )
oh, and one more thing; is this device brickable? or can you always reset it to default, like with the liquid? if something f...s up you can always boot into bootloader and reflash a *.bin
Help a newbie to get started, and flashing things and stuff is nothing new. Only the way to root it is new for me... :/
Regards,
Me
(hopefully I haven't missed a thread that answers all my questions, but of what I've found I haven't found anything that actually helps me. if I've missed it, just link to it and remove this thread )
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I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.
You should easily get 24 + hours if all you do is text mainly. Just remember to turn data off. It will help make your battery last longer.
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sdxda said:
I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.
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Well, my current phone dies pretty quickly when texting a lot. Today it went from 60% down to 5%, and I woke for 11hours ago and have been texting ppl since then.
And I'm buying a new phone since my 4 touch-buttons on this one is getting really weird, they only work sometimes and yesterday they all died so I was stuck in a conversation and had to reboot to get out of it.
And sending texts and stuff is what I mainly do, of course I browse the Internet, play games and everything. During school and such I only text people, and a lot. So I pretty much needs the phone to make more than 24hours without charging it, even though I text a lot and listen to music.
@NardVa;
Won't be a problem. Already thought of that
Thanks for the replies
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I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.
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I was going to suggest flashing, the stock rom is garbage for battery life. Android Revolution HD seems to be one of the more popular choices, but of course Cyanogen Mod is there if you decide the Sense UI isn't your thing
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I was going to suggest flashing, the stock rom is garbage for battery life. Android Revolution HD seems to be one of the more popular choices, but of course Cyanogen Mod is there if you decide the Sense UI isn't your thing
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I've made up my mind now, I'll use the official GB ROM for a couple of days/weeks/months (basically untill I'm tired of Sense 2.1) and then flash a Sense 3.0 ROM and hopefully I can understand which one of all those RUU's that's made for Europe too when I'm bored of Sense 2.1
You don't happen to know how it is with bricking this phone? Can you always reset it to stock, or can you actually brick it for real so it's 100% unusable?
Hello everyone,
It's nice to have a reason to be back in xda.
So recently I traded my iphone 4s for an LG Thrill + $150. So naturally, I made out of the deal. Anyway, upon receiving the phone, I noticed Superuser in the app drawer. Now I have never rooted an android before, so I would very much appreciate if someone could walk me through on how to do it, or link me to a thread that may explain it. The reason I am making my own thread about this is because Id also like a few questions answered if possible.
First of all, I want to unroot because I'm not sure if the previous owner installed any kind of tracking software on the phone, unlikely, but you never know. Also because I figure I will have to do it to update to ICS when it gets released for the Thrill. So I guess one of my questions are how do I tell what kind of stuff is installed on my phone from a rooted perspective. I noticed that for one unroot you need to have cwm installed, and i don't know how to go about to see if it is. I don't see it in the app drawer, so I'm not sure. Like I said, Ive never owned a rooted android before, only my jailbroken iphones.
Another question I had is that when I signed into my android email (I previously owned a motorola Xoom) it released an arsenal of unwanted emails and contacts into my phones contacts, I'm going to imagine there is a setting in the settings to untoggle this, and I will try to hunt it down, but if anyone could give me a heads up on where it is, thatd be ridiculously awesome.
Then another thing id like help with, is since im late in the game with the Thrill, maybe you could post any interesting threads youd think a newbie would like to see. I will spend my own time looking over xda (so please don't come in here and hate on me and tell me to look for it myself) I just figured you kind people that are in here a couple times a week would already know of some great stuff I could look at. It does get time consuming reading through the Troll posts and whatnot.
Anywho, Thanks for your time and I'm looking forward to talking to you all in the coming days!
If anyone could help me, I have never been rooted like stated, and I'm just trying to gushed what I should do. I found out he used super one click method to root. And I see superuser in the apparently drawer, but I don't see clockwork recovery at all (and I don't even know what that is/does, but I know its important.) If anyone could just start a dialogue with me to help me get some of this figured out I'd be very appreciative. I just don't want to ultimately brick my phone.
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I would check to see if clockwork mod recovery is installed first. If it is, then just install a different rom and you will know that any tracking stuff the previous user may have installed is gone.
To check for clockwork recovery, power your phone down completely. Hold the volume down button and the 3d button down, then press the power button until the phone vibrates and starts booting. If the phone boots normally, you don't have clockwork recovery. If you do have clockwork recovery, then install a custom rom from the development section and you're on your way. I like thriller and doomed froyo.
Enjoy!
-q
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Yes! I booted into an android recovery system, so I'm taking that I do have certain thanks, now I will have to look into the Roms.
Two side questions though, I will have to unroot before ICS right?
And when I turned off and booted like you said, once I got into the recovery attempt I just rebooted again, my battery was at 70 percent before the initial reboot and somhow now displaying it at 26 percent. Any ideas on that? I'm going to reset again to see if it drags back up. I am confused
EDIT: After turning it off on the battery is still reading in the twenty percent. I know for a fact that it should be up in the sixty seventy range. Does loading into recovery really destroy your battery like that? I had already done a full life cycle on the battery so I can't imagine that the batteries the issue
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So I just removed then replaced the battery and now its reading at 35 percent. Is this normal?
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Hey... haven't been checking this forum for a few days. It sounds like your battery stats are hosed. In cwr there is an option to wipe battery stats. That should do the trick.
You do not need to un-root in order to install a custom rom. The only thing to watch out for is what baseband the rom was developed for. The thrill ships with "froyo", Google's android 2.2 operating system and that's the only OS version that the baseband will function with. It is possible to flash the baseband from another country where "gingerbread" (2.3) has been released. Unfortunately this means that you may lose quite a bit of functionality on your phone. This is because the frequencies used in the country where that baseband was used are different. You are pretty much guaranteed to lose 4g and might get horrible signal on 3g.
Personally I will be waiting for at&t to roll out gingerbread for the thrill before I go down that path. You can still flash froyo based roms like Thriller and Doomed Froyo. Look for them in the "android development" subforum here.
Good luck!
-q
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It may be that the stats are shot, or it may be a glitch that (I think) the Thrill has. I remember reading at one point that simply turning the phone on and off would drain 10-20% of its battery, and mine has seemed to do the few times that I actually watched it... It's really annoying when you just want to restart the phone to apply something and then have to live with a smaller battery life for the rest of the day.
Thanks guys, I appreciate the input, and I will check that out in clockwork recovery.
I was worried about unrooting to install ics when it comes out, but I figure that may be a year or so :rolls eyes: but i think I found the forum for unrooting in the development section.
Also thanks for the warning on the baseband, I'm really glad I haven't gotten around to putting a rom on my thrill because I was looking at a gb one. You just saved my phone!
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I realise this wont answer your question but it might help you in a general since. I was in your position few months ago. I did play with roms some. I found what worked for me was ordering a higher capacity battery (link found in the accessory section), and the Doomed Froyo rom. Gave me the control I was used to from jailbreak ios and the extra battery life helps. Do a few searches for essential root apps before you play with roms. You need basics like root file explorer and titanium backing and so on. Enjoy your thrill
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When I got this phone I told myself I wasn't going to be a flashaholic. I'm no newcomer to root or custom rims but the vivid isn't that bad. Almost doesn't need to be cleaned up and OC'd. But the little things are getting to me.
1. Choppy scrolling
2. Choppy Rosie
3. Small lag with daily use
I don't want to sacrafice the good battery life i have been having.
What are your opinions and what Rom should I flash for stability and smooth scrolling.
If the majority doesn't seem to think it's worth it I'll stay stock. Thanks for all of your opinions
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I'd say it's worth it. My battery still has a good 20-30% battery by the end of the day.
I can't say much about which ROM to get, considering I've only been able to get the VjRaider to work, which I love by the way.
Those choppy things were bugging me as well, VjRaider fixed 'em up. Along with some pretty cool features.
I have rooted but kept the original rom still... I wont become a flashaholic until I can get something like cyanogenmod or miui... not enough benefit for me to be bothered flashing and resetting up all my config
In a word, Yes
My biggest beef with stock was CIQ. It was not acceptable to leave it on my phone, regardless of the good intentions.
What I'm seeing with the better custom roms are tremendous increases in speed and fluidity, and excellent battery life. It would be painful to put the stock rom back on.
If battery life is a cocern for you, rooting lets you get rid of the juice hogging bloatware. Wild Childs Illuminati series are great roms. He has Sense 3.0 and 3.5 versions, stock kernels, oc kernels and voltage controllers. I you like the stock look, thats the way to go. Better than stock battery life and moar speedz.
oooh, I forgot also, this was WELL worth it for me, because I can't stand the stupid battery meter that sense has, I like having the percentage there, and after I rooted I could edit that then
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I have rooted but kept the original rom still... I wont become a flashaholic until I can get something like cyanogenmod or miui... not enough benefit for me to be bothered flashing and resetting up all my config
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Check out the app MyBackup by Rerware. I would post a link for you, but I don't have enough posts yet.
You can backup your system configurations, all the apps you have, what all your pages look like on your home screen, pictures, almost everything. And the best part about it is that you can do it online, or onto your SD card. Makes everything so much easier .
Yeah I already use titanium backup for apps, smsbackup+ for sms and call recordd and clockwork mod for full zip backups... I dont feel the need for more heh. Plus the main deal for me is I dont care enough, Im cool to hang with stock a while... My hd2 i flashed weekly... It got out of hand
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davidcampbell said:
Yeah I already use titanium backup for apps, smsbackup+ for sms and call recordd and clockwork mod for full zip backups... I dont feel the need for more heh. Plus the main deal for me is I dont care enough, Im cool to hang with stock a while... My hd2 i flashed weekly... It got out of hand
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That's what I am afraid of.
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That's what I am afraid of.
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Don't be afraid to get your hand dirty. Most of the custom ROMs available now are already in its 4th or 5th edition, at this point they are all pretty much very very stable. Think of it this way, whatever it is you like about your phone's current form, custom ROM does EVERYTHING better. It is smoother, faster, more stable (I used to get random reboots 3 times a week on stock ROM, not to mention the stupid carrier bloatwares and CIQ) and the ability to control the power usage through cpu control.
Trust me. It's not even close....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431053
im very happy with that one very fluid after draining the battery than fully charging im getting 20 hours of real used (over 300 texts an hour of calling, internet browsing reading Engadget app, about 30 emails, and 10 pictures)
i do get random reboots about once every two days or so tho
so if you want something more stock tho
i hear this one is good
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here is what I did to satisfy my lust for now, keeping in mind that I get no random reboots and I don't seem to have any issues with my phone at all.
I figured there would be some level of erasing my data so I wanted to get rooting out of the way when I first got the phone, within about 20 minutes of ownership I had unlocked the bootloader (which cleared personal data), installed CWM and taken a backup of my stock rom, I then applied the root update through cwm to get root, I am still running the stock rom and I can squeeze 24 hours out of my phone which is pretty impressive vs my htc hd2, I'm in a 3G area so I havent really used my 4G radio yet.
Then I went about installing an update to get my percentage on the battery instead of the stupid battery icon with no percentage, and replaced the home screen with ADW.Launcher and the lockscreen with WidgetLocker, and I'm pretty happy with the speed and capabilities of the phone now, I'm content to wait until ICS I think as I have not really had any stability issues with this setup, everything just works, one annoyance is there is a little lag on scrolling things, something I see is mentioned as fixed in the ROMS... so far its not a big deal for me, I think maybe if ICS cm9 isn't out by march then I will look at flashing a custom rom at that point "
I do really miss the polish of the MIUI rom I had on my HD2, MIUI did some amazing ui stuff and everything was where it needed to be... even simple things like a TOGGLE FOR WIFI in the notification bar... it seems extremely weird for that to not be there lol.
You watch, someone will reply now and say that a particular rom has that feature and I'll be like Fuuuuuuu and flashing a new ROM before tomorow... I can feel the urge to flash rising hahaha
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My biggest beef with stock was CIQ. It was not acceptable to leave it on my phone, regardless of the good intentions.
What I'm seeing with the better custom roms are tremendous increases in speed and fluidity, and excellent battery life. It would be painful to put the stock rom back on.
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Completely agree, I couldn't go back to stock, the speed is far superior, I've tried a couple of Roms, I've just flashed vjraider, great Rom! And I foresee an even better future! Thanks devs,
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Personally, I find rooting to be worth it. First and foremost, it is the most in depth procedure of customization you can do to your phone to make it "yours". The speed and battery increases are pretty well worth it as well. I am currently running HoliRaider 1.5a with no problems whatsoever. Speed is amazing and I haven't had any stability issues. Considering HTC has allowed for the bootloader to be unlocked, most of the difficulty that comes with rooting has been taken out. Take a chance! Just follow instructions and read them twice before doing anything major, you'll be alright.
Root is a must for me... All the bloatware they put on my phone i had to get off xD my OCD kicks in and i need a way to delete EVERYTHING i can and still make the phone functional haha
I use WCX http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454521 3.5 and with his newest build I have been getting no reboots at 1.5ghz and its running like a charm
Battery life is a lot better now thank goodness! and I forgot to quote whoever said this but I too cant wait for something like CM7 or CM9 (not miui I hate it) Sense itself is too much for me though its beautiful its not needed I'd rather have INCREDIBLE speed than looks So im sticking with WCX untill CM9 becomes doable or they quickly get CM7 ready to go