Restore i896 Factory Rom - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a captivate i896 and i ran into some problem flashing cognition onto my phone. So now all I can do is use odin to flash the stock i897 rom onto my device.
The problem with this is and the cognition roms are that I have to mobile data connection (but i have voice) on these roms. I cant access 2g/3g data, does anyone know how to fix this?
But my main question is how to restore the stock i896 rom back onto my device.
When I use rom manager to try to flash the stock rom found on this page (hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-I896) it just doesnt work. Maybe im going something wrong, but I cant seem to get it to work.

That file is not a rom, its a backup that you need to restore with rom manager. Copy it to your sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/rogers_stock directory and restore it with rom manager.
If you want the actual rom get this http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BD2EF4WF

peachpuff said:
That file is not a rom, its a backup that you need to restore with rom manager. Copy it to your sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/rogers_stock directory and restore it with rom manager.
If you want the actual rom get this http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BD2EF4WF
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thanks so much

Ok so i tried flashing this rom
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=03X7E4UW
which is suppose to be the stock rogers captivate rom with rom manager.
However when i do so, after selecting the .zip file in cwm it gets up to "installing update..." with a empty status bar at the bottom.
I left it there for about 30 minutes and it didnt change.
Can anyone help me get back to stock i896!

SteveCheeseman said:
Can anyone help me get back to stock i896!
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Read my post above, you need copy the images to the sdcard and restore them, not install the zip file.

I'm really interested to know if those backups and stock roms actually restore you to stock. The first phone I had got soft bricked when I tried to restore the backups I had made from by own phone. So if this works for anyone I'd be really interested to hear about it
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You could also try using Heimdall, new Open-Source Flashing Software and this dump generated from stock Rogers phone.
I haven't seen any reports of tests on Captivate yet, but it seems to work well on other Galaxies. Check Heimdall thread for more info, and if it works well for you, please report to this thread. Good luck!

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[Q] Does ROM Manager back up the ENTIRE phone?

Silly noob-like question, but I wanted to make sure before I continued messing with my phone.
Does ROM Manager back up EVERYTHING on the phone? For example, I backup my rom. Move the backup file onto my pc. Then I screw around with roms, lag fixes, etc. and totally screw it up. If I "restore" the backup made by ROM Manager, will all my apps, settings, desktop, data files, etc be exactly as they were before I started screwing around?
Or, would I need to use Odin to load the same ROM as that which was backed up and then run Rom Manager Restore?
Thanks!
Yes it does
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Here's another question regarding this thread:
I have the lagfix mod which uses the internal sdcard. When I create a backup will it and restore exactly how it was including the lagfix partition? If yes, is it the same procedures or do I have to do it a different way with the extra partition?
Thanks in advance.
Deca4 said:
Here's another question regarding this thread:
I have the lagfix mod which uses the internal sdcard. When I create a backup will it and restore exactly how it was including the lagfix partition? If yes, is it the same procedures or do I have to do it a different way with the extra partition?
Thanks in advance.
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Actually I am trying to figure out the same thing. I made a backup before I started messing around with lag fixes, different roms and so forth. Then the other day I tried to restore a rom it didn't work. Eventually I soft bricked the phone and had to make the USB Jig to get it working again. Needless to say I am very intrigued with what exactly Rom Manager does backup and its limitations but I can't seem to find it anywhere. I am thinking the reason my backup was screwed up was because of a lag fix, only problem is I can't remember what lag fix I had on it when I did the initial recovery.
Something from my experience to add here:
Scenario 1:
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I backed up the original 2.1 JH7 on my phone.
Installed 2.2 custom ROM, and played around with it.
Backed up 2.2 ROM.
Messed up with my 2.2 custom ROM.
Went to ROM manager recovery, and recovered the backed up 2.1 JH7, and ended up messing up. My phone didn't even boot up.
Then I went back to recovery, and tried restoring the backed up version of 2.2.
Phone booted up into 2.2, but, started giving a lot of FCs.
Scenario 2:
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Installed 2.2 custom ROM 1.
Backed it up.
Messed it.
Restored it - worked fine.
Installed 2.2 custom ROM 2.
Backed it up.
Restored the 2.2 custom ROM 1.
Everything working fine.
Looks like as long as the core OS is of the same version, it seems to work.
Maybe there is something in the boot sequence that's probably not being restored (???)
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Edit: I do not have CWM app installed. I use the CWM update.zip recovery manager since its the least intrusive way.
diablo009 said:
Something from my experience to add here:
Scenario 1:
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I backed up the original 2.1 JH7 on my phone.
Installed 2.2 custom ROM, and played around with it.
Backed up 2.2 ROM.
Messed up with my 2.2 custom ROM.
Went to ROM manager recovery, and recovered the backed up 2.1 JH7, and ended up messing up. My phone didn't even boot up.
Then I went back to recovery, and tried restoring the backed up version of 2.2.
Phone booted up into 2.2, but, started giving a lot of FCs.
Scenario 2:
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Installed 2.2 custom ROM 1.
Backed it up.
Messed it.
Restored it - worked fine.
Installed 2.2 custom ROM 2.
Backed it up.
Restored the 2.2 custom ROM 1.
Everything working fine.
Looks like as long as the core OS is of the same version, it seems to work.
Maybe there is something in the boot sequence that's probably not being restored (???)
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Edit: I do not have CWM app installed. I use the CWM update.zip recovery manager since its the least intrusive way.
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Interesting, it would makes sense in what you are saying. My error that I go was when I went from my original JH7 backup, installed a rom based on JH6 and then tried to install my original backup. I might have to try JH6 roms and see if I can restore to them easily or not. I will have to wait for Micro USB cables to come in as I don't have a spare since I used my only cable to make the JIG.
The kernel and modem aren't backed up, so if your backups use different ones and you try to restore them you'll have issues.
I herd a rumor that rom manager doesn't work with froyo on the captivate. But I could be totally wrong.
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peachpuff said:
The kernel and modem aren't backed up, so if your backups use different ones and you try to restore them you'll have issues.
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This is what I have read about it as well
Voodoo
There is also a different version of CWM Recovery (what Rom Manager uses to back things up) for the voodoo lag fix.
tnerb123 said:
I herd a rumor that rom manager doesn't work with froyo on the captivate. But I could be totally wrong.
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It works. I backed up and restored a few variants of Froyo ROMs.
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The kernel and modem aren't backed up, so if your backups use different ones and you try to restore them you'll have issues.
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How do I backup these? Is there any way?
If Ron Manager does backup the kernel and modem why would so many people have problems restoring back to different Roms? This is why I am so puzzled with this software.
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Rom Manager can backup EFS folder ??
i lost my imei and the only backup that i have its from Ron Manager
Absolutely it does there!
Maybe I'm old fashioned, but best bet is backup from recovery. Saves everything down to browser login data. Can't go wrong with a full backup! I make one every time I flash just about anything.
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Rom Manager vs CWM Recovery
yes Rom Manager can do backup of phone..but why not just do
a Nandroid Backup from CWM Recovery..
never had problem with Nandroid Backup from CWM Recovery :victory:
dobi3 said:
yes Rom Manager can do backup of phone..but why not just do
a Nandroid Backup from CWM Recovery..
never had problem with Nandroid Backup from CWM Recovery :victory:
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Agreed!
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[Q] ROM Manager And Titanium Backup

Im getting confused so i just want to clarify these apps, If i flash my captivate using ODIN doesnt all the files get deleted? so I don't get it how can you use these apps to recover any of files if its deleted during the procedure.
Titanium backup is for apps and settings. ROM Manager backs up your ROM and your current setup, it is also used to flash ROMS and other mods and CloclworkMod Recovery is a part of the app. Get the paid version of both apps, not expensive and you will be using them often.
so if i buy these 2 and flash my phone using odin they will stay on my phone?
sinichi21 said:
so if i buy these 2 and flash my phone using odin they will stay on my phone?
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No. No apps stay on your phone after flashing. When you use these two apps, they store files on your internal SD card. This does not get touched when you flash a new rom. Therefore after you flash a new rom, just go to the market, redownload the apps, and restore what you've backed up.
I got a new question guys I backup my stock ROM the one that comes on factory but rooted and im currently running cog 2.2 beta 9.1.2. My question is if i restore backup will it restore to my old 2.1 stock with root?
And for my next question is there a way to go back to stock ROM jf6 using ROM manager? Thanks everyone in advance
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I have Rom manager and did a Rom backup.
How do I restore my phone?
I did something and my phone will not come on.
It will get the AT&T world phone screen, the 3G splash and even play the sounds
and the Galaxy S screen than goes black.
Doing the volume up/down and power take me to recovery screen,
did reinstall package chose update.zip but no luck.
Working again, phewww almost threw it in the trash.
baseballfanz said:
Working again, phewww almost threw it in the trash.
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i love it when people say this. it shows exactly how much effort they are willing to put into fixing the stuff they screw up.....

newbie..flashed to Cog 2.7, wifi stopped working, any good rom?

Hi, my first post..
so i read some and rooted my captivate, flashed it to Cognition 2.3b7 and since then my wifi stopped working...
I am guessing I can flash with another ROM ?
and don't have to go back to stock build??
if so which rom should I go with? I like the Gingerbread look and feel but open to try others...this phone is new and I don't have to worry about files/information yet.
thanks for your help
First, welcome to XDA, but...wrong section, this belongs in Q&A not development.
Mods please move.
You want to flash stock using odin
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
Don't try to flash another rom directly on top, you will compound the problem.
Have you tried reboot on your phone
If you are lost you can pm me
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thanks mcord. so if I go back to stock do I have to root again?
also please let me know which rom to use to flash..I read Assonance 5.0 might be good?
thanks
greenzellybean said:
thanks mcord. so if I go back to stock do I have to root again?
also please let me know which rom to use to flash..I read Assonance 5.0 might be good?
thanks
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You should have an update zip on your sd from rom manager/clockwork. Take this fille, and save it to your pc, our external sd. When you are on stock put it back on your internal sd, boot into recovery, reinstall packages twice, you will have clockwork recovery. Youcan flash roms from here without root.
I am not sure your problem was from cognition, maybe a bad flash. I am using assonance, so far so good but I have not been on it for long, axura is nice as well.
I would also suggest that you do a master clear after odin, make sure you are not keeping any troubled files. Make sure you backup anything you do not want erased to your oc or external sd
Remove sim and external sd before odin, master clear, or rom flash. Suggested not to flash roms with usb plugged in. always best to flash with full bat
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Well, If you are going to flash trough CWM then no, you dont need to root again because you dont need to root to use CWM. Just make sure you keep the CWM update.zip on your sdcard boot into recovery and choose reinstall packages and you will boot into CWM.
And about the ROM. Well, you could try Cognition2.3b6, Perception8 or Assonance. I heard Cog has better battery life than Perc but Perc is faster, also the main diference is that Perc is based on i9000 ROM and Cog is based on Captivate ROM. I really dont know anything about Assonance escept that people say it's good.
If you are looking for another ROM, consider Assonance: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=856877
Full instructions are included in the original post.
Hi guys. First post so hope I don't look like an idiot!
Flashed Cognition v2.3b6 2 weeks ago but had to go back to stock 2.1 jh6 reason being while @ home I can connect to my protected wifi network with no problem but if I try to
use an open wifi network say at Denny's or an AT&T hotspot my wifi just loops and no hook up! {N/G} Have to switch back to 3G to get to on the net. After flash back to stock no wifi problems anywhere. Yesterday, 12/22/2010, flash to new Cognition v2.3b8. After flash went to Denny's and wifi N/G! Am I alone here or is anyone else having this problem? Flashed back to stock and today did Kies mini update to jh7, AOK! Went back to Denny's and had no problems connecting to wifi??????????????????

Android Markey Froyo 2.2 Problems

I have been trying to resolve this issue for a day now. I flashed to 2.2 Froyo, unlocked and rooted my Stock Rogers Samsung Captivate. Everything is working fine, I started downloaded all my favourite apps back when I had stock firmware. A few hours into using my phone, I noticed apps that I used to be able to find weren't showing up. I am not sure if it is related, but I noticed this after removing bloatware with titanium backup.
I installed following this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861103
After searching forums for hours, the solution seemed simple, modifying a line of code in the build.prop file and overwriting the old one. I have tried this one:
ro.build.fingerprint=verizon_wwe/inc/inc/inc:2.2/FRF91/231334:user/release-keys
with no luck. I decided to reflash the 2.2 rom as I assumed removing the bloat ware was the cause, but I am still having the same market issues.
I am not sure where to go from here, did anyone experience similar problems? Any possible solutions? I really want DBZ scouter back
snakemanuver said:
I have been trying to resolve this issue for a day now. I flashed to 2.2 Froyo, unlocked and rooted my Stock Rogers Samsung Captivate. Everything is working fine, I started downloaded all my favourite apps back when I had stock firmware. A few hours into using my phone, I noticed apps that I used to be able to find weren't showing up. I am not sure if it is related, but I noticed this after removing bloatware with titanium backup.
I installed following this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861103
After searching forums for hours, the solution seemed simple, modifying a line of code in the build.prop file and overwriting the old one. I have tried this one:
ro.build.fingerprint=verizon_wwe/inc/inc/inc:2.2/FRF91/231334:user/release-keys
with no luck. I decided to reflash the 2.2 rom as I assumed removing the bloat ware was the cause, but I am still having the same market issues.
I am not sure where to go from here, did anyone experience similar problems? Any possible solutions? I really want DBZ scouter back
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i had the same problem when i first flashed the stock froyo. went away after i started using cognition and axura.
I will give Cognition a try and report back.
nephets0 said:
i had the same problem when i first flashed the stock froyo. went away after i started using cognition and axura.
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I got the Cognition files and the Odin standalone, but I'm confused as to where to get the other files
• PIT.pit
• PDA.tar
• PHONE.tar
• CSC.tar
I can't find the download link on the thread
snakemanuver said:
I will give Cognition a try and report back.
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Cognition has had this since the first release
Im trying to find the Cognition Odin install but its not on the site, the site only has the ROM files. I would ideally want to install with rom manage as it would be a lot easier but my market is so messed up its not even showing up when i search it.
snakemanuver said:
Im trying to find the Cognition Odin install but its not on the site, the site only has the ROM files. I would ideally want to install with rom manage as it would be a lot easier but my market is so messed up its not even showing up when i search it.
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you dont need to install rom manager
put the update.zip on your sdcard and reboot to recovery....
reinstall packages (it will reboot, just reinstall packages again)
you will now be in clockwork
install zip from sdcard, and point to the rom
Pirateghost said:
you dont need to install rom manager
put the update.zip on your sdcard and reboot to recovery....
reinstall packages (it will reboot, just reinstall packages again)
you will now be in clockwork
install zip from sdcard, and point to the rom
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Thank you so much for the zip file, everything went smoothly. I liked the voice telling me how much time each process would take. However, when I searched the app store for DBZ scouter it still cant find it, or any other paid apps! This is getting really frustrating. Should I give it a few minutes/hours for the paids apps to show up? I am enjoying the rom though, very smooth compared to the stock ones.
It looks like I'm not the only one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878291&page=3
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=55c997eccabf0a6a&hl=en
I guess it was just a coincidence that this happened the same time I unlocked my phone.. heh. Well now I can finally go back to studying for exams
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[Q]Andromeda 3,phoenix unleashed and more..

Here are my doubts: Captivate on 2.2 no root
1)Is andromeda3 and phoenix unleashed based on android 2.2 or 2.3?(recent versions)
2)I used Odin v1.0 to go back to stock,what is the difference betwen Odin 1.0 and Odin 1.7?
3)Are there any other methods to go back to stock, I have read "Use odin 1.0 in case of emergency"?
4)How can I back up my stock rom after root in the case I want to flash back and unroot?
5)Do I need to go back to stock every time I want to flash a different rom?
6)Andromeda3 has a ursa minor kernel do i need this to install there rom or can i just flash the rom without ursa minor?
7)In the phoenix unleashed thread it says to flash there custom rom use odin to go back to stock,does this mean i have to do the whole back to stock+root again?(Staring from scratch in other words)
8)Will flashing rage patch while using andromeda3 or phoenix unleashed mess something up?
I think that's all please put the same number of the question in front of the answer so I know witch answers witch.Thank you in advanced.
Here are my doubts: Captivate on 2.2 no root (Don't doubt the captivate - it can handle it! Isn't autocorrect great?)
1)Is andromeda3 and phoenix unleashed based on android 2.2 or 2.3?(recent versions)
Andromeda3 is 2.2 based, and as much as I can see, so is Phoenix Unleashed.
2)I used Odin v1.0 to go back to stock,what is the difference betwen Odin 1.0 and Odin 1.7?
They're the same program, just different revisions. I can't say what specifically has changed between the two of the, but my guess would be 1.7 would have more features/bug fixes/etc.
3)Are there any other methods to go back to stock, I have read "Use odin 1.0 in case of emergency"?
Going back to stock will consist of using some version of Odin (one-click or otherwise) to reflash the stock rom to your phone
4)How can I back up my stock rom after root in the case I want to flash back and unroot?
From a rom standpoint, there's no need to back up your stock rom, unless you have settings done a specific way you want. Flashing to stock with automatically put you back at a stock, unrooted state. I would recommend doing a nandroid backup from the CWM recovery menu (assuming you have CWM) and copying the EFS folder to a safe location before moving forwards.
5)Do I need to go back to stock every time I want to flash a different rom?
Need to? No. Is it a good idea? There's debate on this, but in general, it's not a bad idea to flash back to stock (relative to where you are - GB/Froyo/Eclair) before flashing a new rom. It will help keep things tidy.
6)Andromeda3 has a ursa minor kernel do i need this to install there rom or can i just flash the rom without ursa minor?
To the best of my knowledge, it is included in the rom - there's nothing to do on your part, as it will flash with the rom.
7)In the phoenix unleashed thread it says to flash there custom rom use odin to go back to stock,does this mean i have to do the whole back to stock+root again?(Staring from scratch in other words)
If you're still on stock Eclair, you do not need to go back to stock. If you're on something else, you will need to go back to stock, but you shouldn't have to root, as most roms now work without being rooted.
8)Will flashing rage patch while using andromeda3 or phoenix unleashed mess something up?
It won't hurt anything - it just covers a security flaw.
I think that's all please put the same number of the question in front of the answer so I know witch answers witch.Thank you in advanced.
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Here are my doubts: Captivate on 2.2 no root (Don't doubt the captivate - it can handle it! Isn't autocorrect great?)
1)Is andromeda3 and phoenix unleashed based on android 2.2 or 2.3?(recent versions)
Andromeda3 is 2.2 based, and as much as I can see, so is Phoenix Unleashed.
2)I used Odin v1.0 to go back to stock,what is the difference betwen Odin 1.0 and Odin 1.7?
They're the same program, just different revisions. I can't say what specifically has changed between the two of the, but my guess would be 1.7 would have more features/bug fixes/etc.
3)Are there any other methods to go back to stock, I have read "Use odin 1.0 in case of emergency"?
Going back to stock will consist of using some version of Odin (one-click or otherwise) to reflash the stock rom to your phone
4)How can I back up my stock rom after root in the case I want to flash back and unroot?
From a rom standpoint, there's no need to back up your stock rom, unless you have settings done a specific way you want. Flashing to stock with automatically put you back at a stock, unrooted state. I would recommend doing a nandroid backup from the CWM recovery menu (assuming you have CWM) and copying the EFS folder to a safe location before moving forwards.
5)Do I need to go back to stock every time I want to flash a different rom?
Need to? No. Is it a good idea? There's debate on this, but in general, it's not a bad idea to flash back to stock (relative to where you are - GB/Froyo/Eclair) before flashing a new rom. It will help keep things tidy.
6)Andromeda3 has a ursa minor kernel do i need this to install there rom or can i just flash the rom without ursa minor?
To the best of my knowledge, it is included in the rom - there's nothing to do on your part, as it will flash with the rom.
7)In the phoenix unleashed thread it says to flash there custom rom use odin to go back to stock,does this mean i have to do the whole back to stock+root again?(Staring from scratch in other words)
If you're still on stock Eclair, you do not need to go back to stock. If you're on something else, you will need to go back to stock, but you shouldn't have to root, as most roms now work without being rooted.
8)Will flashing rage patch while using andromeda3 or phoenix unleashed mess something up?
It won't hurt anything - it just covers a security flaw.
I think that's all please put the same number of the question in front of the answer so I know witch answers witch.Thank you in advanced.
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Thank you this is very informative and what i meant by "Here are my doubts: Captivate 2.2 no root" is that my captivate is on stock 2.2 without root just to be clear.
I got one more question:
Whats is the EFS folder?
Im going to tell you my former situation so you can tell me what I did wrong:
I rooted my phone with super one click at the time
I used rom manager it was also supposed to save a backup of my stock rom
Somewhere in the CWM I was supposed to save the stock rom just in case something went wrong(i thought i did it correctly)
I flashed Cognition everything was great
I wanted to eliminate Cog when i went to CWM to find my back up of stock it didnt work it stayed in Cog
I have read that flashing other roms while having a custom rom isnt recommended that you need to go back to stock first
I was stuck on Cog all i did was update to the most current version
Till last week where i got the guts to use Odin to flash back to stock with some fear i might brick my phone
Now im looking to do it all over but do it right and not mess it up only with different rom
DudeWatsThat said:
Thank you this is very informative and what i meant by "Here are my doubts: Captivate 2.2 no root" is that my captivate is on stock 2.2 without root just to be clear.
I got one more question:
Whats is the EFS folder?
Im going to tell you my former situation so you can tell me what I did wrong:
I rooted my phone with super one click at the time
I used rom manager it was also supposed to save a backup of my stock rom
Somewhere in the CWM I was supposed to save the stock rom just in case something went wrong(i thought i did it correctly)
I flashed Cognition everything was great
I wanted to eliminate Cog when i went to CWM to find my back up of stock it didnt work it stayed in Cog
I have read that flashing other roms while having a custom rom isnt recommended that you need to go back to stock first
I was stuck on Cog all i did was update to the most current version
Till last week where i got the guts to use Odin to flash back to stock with some fear i might brick my phone
Now im looking to do it all over but do it right and not mess it up only with different rom
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It actually doesn't sound like you did anything wrong - you may just be looking for things in the wrong places. The CWM backup, if I am correct, doesn't create a quick-swappable backup of your stock configuration. My understanding of how the nandroid backup works is that it creates a snapshot of the phone with a particular rom in place, so that if something bad happens, you can flash back to a clean version of that rom, apply the nandroid backup, and you'll be right back in business with your custom rom (Again, that's my understanding - someone more knowledgeable may chime in and give a better/more correct explanation).
If you made a backup using CWM, you should have a folder on your internal SD called "clockworkmod/backup", with a folder that has the date of the backup on it. I would copy that to somewhere safe (like your computer). Once you've done that, and assuming your phone is functioning normally as a phone, I would use a root-level file explorer (root explorer, adb pull command, etc.) to get a copy the folder "/efs" on your computer as well. (Take a look at the link in my signature about XDA terms and acronyms for what the EFS folder is).
Once you've done this, if you haven't already done so, back up your applications with Titanium backup. Then use the Odin one-click to get back to stock 2.1 Eclair. You won't have root access at that point, but that is not a problem. Once you're there, just follow the directions for the rom you want to flash - most will install without requiring the root permissions. The AIO captivate toolbox in the development thread is a good tool if you want something to walk you through the installation process (although it should really only be used on Froyo roms at this point).
PLEASE NOTE - THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT: If you are going to flash a Gingerbread-based rom (Mosaic, Apex, etc), please read up and follow all directions extremely carefully. Flashing Gingerbread involves flashing the bootloaders on your phone, and if something happens during that portion of the flashing process, you will have a true hard brick - not a clay (recoverable error state), but a phone that you can't use.
jmtheiss said:
It actually doesn't sound like you did anything wrong - you may just be looking for things in the wrong places. The CWM backup, if I am correct, doesn't create a quick-swappable backup of your stock configuration. My understanding of how the nandroid backup works is that it creates a snapshot of the phone with a particular rom in place, so that if something bad happens, you can flash back to a clean version of that rom, apply the nandroid backup, and you'll be right back in business with your custom rom (Again, that's my understanding - someone more knowledgeable may chime in and give a better/more correct explanation).
If you made a backup using CWM, you should have a folder on your internal SD called "clockworkmod/backup", with a folder that has the date of the backup on it. I would copy that to somewhere safe (like your computer). Once you've done that, and assuming your phone is functioning normally as a phone, I would use a root-level file explorer (root explorer, adb pull command, etc.) to get a copy the folder "/efs" on your computer as well. (Take a look at the link in my signature about XDA terms and acronyms for what the EFS folder is).
Once you've done this, if you haven't already done so, back up your applications with Titanium backup. Then use the Odin one-click to get back to stock 2.1 Eclair. You won't have root access at that point, but that is not a problem. Once you're there, just follow the directions for the rom you want to flash - most will install without requiring the root permissions. The AIO captivate toolbox in the development thread is a good tool if you want something to walk you through the installation process (although it should really only be used on Froyo roms at this point).
PLEASE NOTE - THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT: If you are going to flash a Gingerbread-based rom (Mosaic, Apex, etc), please read up and follow all directions extremely carefully. Flashing Gingerbread involves flashing the bootloaders on your phone, and if something happens during that portion of the flashing process, you will have a true hard brick - not a clay (recoverable error state), but a phone that you can't use.
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Thanks again
I don't plan on flashing 2.3 roms until the official 2.3 release come out
Theres a Odin that flashes stock 2.2 instead of 2.1 can I use that one instead?
Theres a Odin that flashes stock 2.2 instead of 2.1
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I wasn't aware that existed - could you please provide a link?
Just to point you in the right direction, at the end of the flashing you're currently doing, what rom do you want to have on your phone?
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I wasn't aware that existed - could you please provide a link?
Just to point you in the right direction, at the end of the flashing you're currently doing, what rom do you want to have on your phone?
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Heres the link http://www.mobiletechvideos.com/blog/?page_id=186
The rom i want to use is either Andromeda3,Phoenix Unleashed or just go back to Cognition 4.5.3 or Cog 5 when its not in Beta.
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Heres the link http://www.mobiletechvideos.com/blog/?page_id=186
The rom i want to use is either Andromeda3,Phoenix Unleashed or just go back to Cognition 4.5.3 or Cog 5 when its not in Beta.
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Thanks for the link - good to know about that file.
In my opinion, you would have the best luck going back to stock Eclair (2.1). The reason I say this is because it gives you the cleanest path to getting to the custom Rom you want. 2.1 doesn't have the signed 3e recovery problems that can exist with a 2.2 stock rom, so you'll save yourself a lot of hassle there. Plus, the 2.1 stock rom to custom rom path has been followed hundreds of times on this forum, so it's had the chance to get pretty much all the kinks worked out by this point.
Again, just my opinion.
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Thanks for the link - good to know about that file.
In my opinion, you would have the best luck going back to stock Eclair (2.1). The reason I say this is because it gives you the cleanest path to getting to the custom Rom you want. 2.1 doesn't have the signed 3e recovery problems that can exist with a 2.2 stock rom, so you'll save yourself a lot of hassle there. Plus, the 2.1 stock rom to custom rom path has been followed hundreds of times on this forum, so it's had the chance to get pretty much all the kinks worked out by this point.
Again, just my opinion.
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I would gladly take your advice if it makes everything safer and easier but I upgraded my phone using Kies mini to 2.2 so will using odin to flash back to stock 2.1 cause any problems since its a downgrade from 2.2 to 2.1?
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I would gladly take your advice if it makes everything safer and easier but I upgraded my phone using Kies mini to 2.2 so will using odin to flash back to stock 2.1 cause any problems since its a downgrade from 2.2 to 2.1?
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You shouldn't have any problems with the 2.2-2.1 transition if you use the one click Odin back to stock. The dangerous move is going from 2.3 to any other version, as that involves flashing the bootloaders.
For maximum safety, just include these items on your checklist prior to starting:
- Nandroid backup from CWM
- EFS backup (copying that folder to a safe location)
- Titanium backup of your apps (copy titaniumbackup folder to safe place)
- Back up pictures/music/other items you want to save
Once you've done that, use the one-click Odin to get to a clean stock. From there, you should be good to go with flashing a custom rom. Just make sure you read and follow all directions in the custom roms' post. (If there's nothing there, follow this guide.)
jmtheiss said:
You shouldn't have any problems with the 2.2-2.1 transition if you use the one click Odin back to stock. The dangerous move is going from 2.3 to any other version, as that involves flashing the bootloaders.
For maximum safety, just include these items on your checklist prior to starting:
- Nandroid backup from CWM
- EFS backup (copying that folder to a safe location)
- Titanium backup of your apps (copy titaniumbackup folder to safe place)
- Back up pictures/music/other items you want to save
Once you've done that, use the one-click Odin to get to a clean stock. From there, you should be good to go with flashing a custom rom. Just make sure you read and follow all directions in the custom roms' post. (If there's nothing there, follow this guide.)
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Eh i got it into download mode and i pressed start on odin but i think its stuck did i have to root first and then use odin im kinda scared right now
Edit:its showing a phone a warning sign and a Pc like connect phone to pc
I know it's nerve racking, but as long as you weren't on a Gingerbread rom, you'll be ok. Rooting isn't required - Odin is automatically "rooted".
A quick questions while you're waiting - When you plugged it in, did Odin recognize a phone was attached (did a yellow text box show up saying COM:4 or something similar)? It should look similar to the attached file.
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I know it's nerve racking, but as long as you weren't on a Gingerbread rom, you'll be ok. Rooting isn't required - Odin is automatically "rooted".
A quick questions while you're waiting - When you plugged it in, did Odin recognize a phone was attached (did a yellow text box show up saying COM:4 or something similar)?
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Eh yes its i managed to trouble shoot it and its reboting everything is ok and yes it did show a yellow text box as of right now i just need to pop in the sym and reboot i have succesfully flashed 2.1 i just need to root and get CWM thru Room manager correct me if im wrong.
I'm not that familiar with Rom manager, but the general idea of getting root (maybe through the super one click root application, or from the CWM recovery menu) and installing CWM recovery (however you need to accomplish that) is the right first steps to getting to a custom rom.
Good luck with the flashing process.
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I'm not that familiar with Rom manager, but the general idea of getting root (maybe through the super one click root application, or from the CWM recovery menu) and installing CWM recovery (however you need to accomplish that) is the right first steps to getting to a custom rom.
Good luck with the flashing process.
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I just rooted now all I need is CWM and thank you for all your help!
Glad it worked out. Don't be afraid to ask more questions in the future, as a reply to a question you've asked could help someone else with the same question out.
Everything you asked about could have been answered by doing some searches and reading up on these items. Invest the time instead of just posting.
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Everything you asked about could have been answered by doing some searches and reading up on these items. Invest the time instead of just posting.
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I did ALOT of searching before thinking of posting this,the reason I did it was because most of the post are from 2010 and I had doubts on if I should use those methods or if there where new ones.This is the Q&A sub-forum right?I did just that ask questions.

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