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Milestone (droid) - Nexus One; Worth it?

I am looking at selling my milestone (with Telus) to switch to the Nexus One. Is it worth it, or should I hold out longer. Just can't stand this locked bootloader.
Any input?

tough call. I say its totally worth it as the nexus is so solidly built. newer phones like the incredible are very plastic feeling. but others might tell you to hold out for better phones on the way soon. I say buy the nexus now and enjoy your phone.

How come you cant simply research the phone yourself, and make an easy decision - there is also a thread like this a few threads down. It may not be comparing the Droid, but there is a thread (and other threads) asking if the Nexus is worth the time of day.
Taking user input from a forum mostly populated by major fans of the device with a few that aren't biased won't help you much.
I don't make a thread on forums every time I want something asking is it worth it, though I can see how people want to be careful with their money.

I wouldn't do it because the Nexus One isn't that much better than the Droid especially now that the Droid has 2.1 and a keyboard. You really won't see much of a difference switching over.

iVisionX01 said:
I wouldn't do it because the Nexus One isn't that much better than the Droid especially now that the Droid has 2.1 and a keyboard. You really won't see much of a difference switching over.
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Droid's keyboard sucks though.

iVisionX01 said:
I wouldn't do it because the Nexus One isn't that much better than the Droid especially now that the Droid has 2.1 and a keyboard. You really won't see much of a difference switching over.
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Simply being able to root would make me instantly switch if I was in his shoes.

What's so great about root on the Milestone? Wireless tethering is really the only thing I can think of. Granted that's pretty big for some, but not most.
Is your Milestone updated to 2.1 yet? Unless you can get quite a lot of cash for your it I would just hold on for now. The nexus one really isn't a massive upgrade from it.

@Zeusus,
Dont get the nexus one, hold out for an EVO GSM version/Dells Thunder, they normally come out after a couple of months. Right now switching to Nexus will not give you that extra ummmph you are expecting. It will be a better choice but not the best at this moment.

the nexus one will most likely be the first phone to get Android 2.2 Froyo

It all depends really, first answer these questions.
Can I do without the keyboard?
Can I get 3g currently on my phone?
Does the milestone satisfy?
Lastly, will the Nexus One solve all of the issues you have currently.
For me it was a no brainer, I had an iPhone 3GS and with no 3G and already without a keyboard or reliability. I chose the Nexus. Keep in mind, the milestone (I think) has a better touch screen. If you don't mind quirks Nexus One is actually fairly perfect imo.

PLanning to replace my hd2 for n1

Planning to get the n1 since I can't stand the winmo interface anymore, its taking to much of my time to get everything working everday, planning to do my first switch to android and thinking about getting the n1 or the desire. Interested to know if theres anything I need to know about the n1 that is a put off. Stuff that annoys users on a day to day basis. I mean no offense to n1 users, just trying to get some info.
Thanks

Cpt.Curry said:
Planning to get the n1 since I can't stand the winmo interface anymore, its taking to much of my time to get everything working everday, planning to do my first switch to android and thinking about getting the n1 or the desire. Interested to know if theres anything I need to know about the n1 that is a put off. Stuff that annoys users on a day to day basis. I mean no offense to n1 users, just trying to get some info.
Thanks
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watch for screen burn-in
that's all.

I have a nexus one, but I recommend that you buy a htc incredible
or wait until the htc incredible evo

Got my N1 since Jan and still lovin it to this day. Only thing I think you'd miss from the switch is the screen size of the HD2. Incredible probably would have a closer feel to the HD2 since it runs sense ui (stock). But you can also have sense on a rooted N1 and a lot more tweaks.
The Nexus is sexier than the Incredible, will get updates sooner than any android phones atm and has more dev support if you decide to root. Only reason why I would probably get the Incredible is coz of the carrier (Verizon) and not the device.

i just talked the girl i've been hanging out with into getting the incredible, but only because she wanted to stay with verizon. i've played with it. i prefer the nexus, personally. i think the nexus one looks better, and it definitely has better dev support, if you wanted to tweak it (unlock the bootloader and root it, then put on custom ROMs).
however, if i was going to be with verizon, i'd take the incredible, for sure.
only thing i don't like about the N1 is the crap coverage i get, but that's a network issue with TMO, not any fault of the phone.

Well i think he has t-mobile since he has the htc hd2 well i switched over just about a week ago from the htc hd2 to the nexus the htc hd2 lags and to slow its beautiful in looks but thats about it.. Once u use it its horrible the nexus one does both it looks AMAZING and it's supER fastt.. Once hacked EVEN FASTER.. and froyo 2.2 is just amazingly fast mine is rooted and stuff already because ive used android before ive had it since the g1 android so yeahh but you should def do the switch =]

Yeah... Froyo with JIT and Flash, although its a work in progress. I couldn't ask for more, perfect phone for me at least.
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Well i think he has t-mobile since he has the htc hd2 well i switched over just about a week ago from the htc hd2 to the nexus the htc hd2 lags and to slow its beautiful in looks but thats about it.. Once u use it its horrible the nexus one does both it looks AMAZING and it's supER fastt.. Once hacked EVEN FASTER.. and froyo 2.2 is just amazingly fast mine is rooted and stuff already because ive used android before ive had it since the g1 android so yeahh but you should def do the switch =]
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If you hold the phone at the bottom, the signal strength drops dramatically.
The multitouch sensor flips axes when your fingers get close. No problems for pinch/zoom but bad for games that rely on multitouch. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieuB0VvkmwA
It's difficult to see the screen in bright daylight unless screen brightness is all the way up.
The soft buttons are difficult to hit until you get used to them (the touch points are higher than the labels).
I think that's all of the issues...
If any of these would be huge problems for you, get an Incredible or an EVO 4G. However, the N1 has the strongest developer/hacking following currently, and is sure to get any updates from Google first and long before any other phone (as has been the case with Android "FroYo" 2.2.) And of course, the look is personal preference; I think the N1 looks the best of any current Android phone with the Incredible/Evo being very plain and lacking style.
Anyway, Nexus One, Incredible, Evo 4G: the absolute best three Android phones across all four carriers in the US. You absolutely can't go wrong.
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[Edit]: Just saw you said N1 or Desire, so you must be in Europe.
In which case,
A) N1 trumps the Desire. Paul OBrien said it best:
http://twitter.com/PaulOBrien/status/14976167156
@ScootAUFC It's superior by the nature of its unlocked state and the fact it gets updates quickest of any Android phone...
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B) Please search next time! There have been dozens of N1 vs Desire topics in the past week alone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690661
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691467
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6043779#post6043779

Cpt.Curry said:
Planning to get the n1 since I can't stand the winmo interface anymore, its taking to much of my time to get everything working everday, planning to do my first switch to android and thinking about getting the n1 or the desire. Interested to know if theres anything I need to know about the n1 that is a put off. Stuff that annoys users on a day to day basis. I mean no offense to n1 users, just trying to get some info.
Thanks
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Get the EVO 4G instead unless you're outside the US, in which case get the Incredible.
No reason to buy the N1 now that it is no longer the top Android phone. With the EVO 4G you aren't losing anything, and only gaining.
EDIT: After reading a couple of the other posts, maybe the N1 would work out better due to faster updates and unlocked nature of phone at ship.

No I dont have the T-mobile hd2 I have the normal one the T8585, and I live in Australia so incredible is out the question. Or else I would've seriously thought of it, it definitely looks incredible I mean 8.1mp and 4.3 inch screen damn thats good.

nexus5894 said:
watch for screen burn-in
that's all.
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Is screen burn-in really an issue?

Paul22000 said:
If you hold the phone at the bottom, the signal strength drops dramatically.
The multitouch sensor flips axes when your fingers get close. No problems for pinch/zoom but bad for games that rely on multitouch. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieuB0VvkmwA
It's difficult to see the screen in bright daylight unless screen brightness is all the way up.
The soft buttons are difficult to hit until you get used to them (the touch points are higher than the labels).
I think that's all of the issues...
If any of these would be huge problems for you, get an Incredible or an EVO 4G. However, the N1 has the strongest developer/hacking following currently, and is sure to get any updates from Google first and long before any other phone (as has been the case with Android "FroYo" 2.2.) And of course, the look is personal preference; I think the N1 looks the best of any current Android phone with the Incredible/Evo being very plain and lacking style.
Anyway, Nexus One, Incredible, Evo 4G: the absolute best three Android phones across all four carriers in the US. You absolutely can't go wrong.
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[Edit]: Just saw you said N1 or Desire, so you must be in Europe.
In which case,
A) N1 trumps the Desire. Paul OBrien said it best:
B) Please search next time! There have been dozens of N1 vs Desire topics in the past week alone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690661
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691467
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6043779#post6043779
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Thanks a lot for all your input, but the problems thats you've listed are they a day to day issue for n1 customers. I mean would you be annoyed by it everyday. Does the desire have similar issues. I probably don't know where to get the incredible from and it would also probably be way over my price range.
Thanks a lot

Nexus One or mytouch slide

okay so I have a g1 right now but I'm going to upgrade and I came down to the nexus or the mytouch slide and I want to pick the right phone because if I make the wrong decision I will have to keep the phone for almost 2 years for my next upgrade. I heard the mytouch looks smooth and the htc sense theme is cool. But the nexus one has a better screen the the mytouch and it can compete with others but its media,contact, and message display is oldschool kind of like the g1 so I'm kind of stuck which one should i get

isnt a mytouch with a slide out keyboard just a G1?

Compared to the nexus one it is
I don't know what actual hardware improvements are on the Slide other than the keyboard
but it can't be too much since they are releasing the Slide's updated sense on the oringinal MT3G
I say go open source, easily unlockable, completley customizable nexus one!

veritasaequita said:
isnt a mytouch with a slide out keyboard just a G1?
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The new mytouch slide has better specs and a slightly bigger screen, but still well below the nexus one.
I'd go with the nexus one, the hardware keyboard isn't worth it.
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veritasaequita said:
isnt a mytouch with a slide out keyboard just a G1?
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Haha, that is almost funny. MT3GS is 10 times the phone of the G1. Either way, this thread should be in General and will get moved or closed very soon. With that said:
I have both, I love both. The N1, hands down, is way better but if you cant stand virtual keyboards, the MT3GS is very nice. Sense is great, the keyboard is layed out very nice and easy to type on. The phone is snappy and responsive, not slow AT ALL! The screen is a little larger then original MT3G/G1 but still a low resolution. They did, however make the OS look very nice on the phone. BUT, if you want to root, hack, modify and play with the phone go for the N1. They will, some day, root the Slide but the N1 will always be the dev's phone of choice. Hope this helps.
P.S. If this is going to be your phone for the next 2 years, I would go for the Nexus, it'll be able to handle whatever they through at it. Eventually the slower processor of the Slide wont be able to keep up.

I think the Nexus is way better. It has a better screen, better processor, more memory and it can run froyo. Also, if you root it, you can run the Sense UI. The only thing the Slide has on it's side is the slide out keyboard. I actually use my nexus to play all the old school snes and gba games and it plays it perfectly.

I own both, and both are awesome! It really comes down to the keyboard. Either way you will be happy. The mytouch has lots of cool features built in that aren't available on the nexus 1. It's bubbly and from what I've seen it actually has a better GPU than the nexus 1.
Personally I prefer the nexus 1 for me and the mytouch slide for my wife. If you don't plan on rooting your phone and flashing roms constantly than the mytouch is probably a better way to go. If you want to be able to customize everything and make sure you always have the latest and greatest, the nexus 1 is a safer bet.
Good luck! If you wait until the 19th, I think they are giving the mytouch slide away for free. Search google for the details, I think it was on tmonews.

youneek said:
I own both, and both are awesome! It really comes down to the keyboard. Either way you will be happy. The mytouch has lots of cool features built in that aren't available on the nexus 1. It's bubbly and from what I've seen it actually has a better GPU than the nexus 1.
Personally I prefer the nexus 1 for me and the mytouch slide for my wife. If you don't plan on rooting your phone and flashing roms constantly than the mytouch is probably a better way to go. If you want to be able to customize everything and make sure you always have the latest and greatest, the nexus 1 is a safer bet.
Good luck! If you wait until the 19th, I think they are giving the mytouch slide away for free. Search google for the details, I think it was on tmonews.
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The Slide actually doesn't have a better GPU, its just a lower resolution so it gets better scores.

The Galaxy S is supposedly coming to t-mobile and being announced on the 29th if you wanted to wait another month. It has the best hardware.. but i don't know about the UI.

I would go for the Nexus One! If you truely plan on keeping the phone for two years the Nexus One is a no brainer. The MT3GS hardware will be way behind in two years. The nexus one may be outdated in two years but the specs on the N1 should make it possible to keep up for quite a while.
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B Dizzle said:
I would go for the Nexus One! If you truely plan on keeping the phone for two years the Nexus One is a no brainer. The MT3GS hardware will be way behind in two years. The nexus one may be outdated in two years but the specs on the N1 should make it possible to keep up for quite a while.
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Motorola actually plans on releasing a 2GHz Android powered phone by the end of the year according to several reputable websites. The Nexus in theory will be outdated by the beginning of next year.. then will come the dual core processors that are also in development.

Eclair~ said:
Motorola actually plans on releasing a 2GHz Android powered phone by the end of the year according to several reputable websites. The Nexus in theory will be outdated by the beginning of next year.. then will come the dual core processors that are also in development.
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And 3 months after you buy that phone HTC will release a 2.5GHz phone. Welcome to the technology era!

thanks for the quick replies

I have both. Well, mytouch slide is for my wife but I'm in charge of getting it rooted and "played" with. I was very impressed at how fast it is for the specs. It is not slow at all, very fast but in the end, the nexus will keep up longer being it has the better hardware. Mytouch slide is pretty cool though imo. Very fast. Needs root. Root!

I have both. Well, mytouch slide is for my wife but I'm in charge of getting it rooted and "played" with. I was very impressed at how fast it is for the specs. It is not slow at all, very fast but in the end, the nexus will keep up longer being it has the better hardware. Mytouch slide is pretty cool though imo. Very fast. Needs root. Root!
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I second this.... In fact I'M in the exact same position. Get the nexus because it has a better camera and screen, or get the slide because you love the qwerty and like the simplicity of Sense UI.
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I'll tell you tomorrow
I got a MT3GS, and I hated what T-Mo did to the interface. I *may* have done some things to the phone to get a different interface on it.
I suggest you have a read on the Slide forum. The recovery image is not currently writable, so to get into recovery you have to go through this song and and dance every time. Add to that the low resolution screen, and well, I wasn't 100% satisfied. I ordered a nexus one while I'm in the period where I can return the slide. It'll be here tomorrow. I'll post a comparison once I've tried them both out. (I thought I needed a hardware keyboard, but Swype has convinced me otherwise.)
In favor of the slide, it *is* really snappy, a huge upgrade from the G1. It feels to me like what the G1 should have been, not tripping over itself all of the time, and there *are* a lot of people working on ROMs for it. I'm sure in another few months it'll all settle down. The keyboard is not as nice as the G1's. If only I could have a device with the G1's keyboard, and the resolution and power of the Nexus One / iPhone 4. I'd drop $700 on that right now.

setzer715 said:
And 3 months after you buy that phone HTC will release a 2.5GHz phone. Welcome to the technology era!
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Or welcome to Moore's Law.

I also have had both. My advice would be to get the Nexus One which has wifi tethering no matter how you decide to run it, stock or rooted. Then keep the g1 handy with wifi turned on and minimal apps installed just for writing emails and whatever if you need a keyboard. I hate trying to write a professional message on the N1, but its more doable on a g1. That's it's only flaw.
If you have to use the phone often while driving, the Slide will be safer. But your better off to avoid the phone while driving, except for maps and music of course. And the voice-to-text is unbelievably accurate. So the N1 wins.

I would say what you plan on doing with the device is a big factor. If you want easy rooting, the N1 is the best ATM, but if rooting is a secondary concern, the upcoming Galaxy S series looks to be the top performer at least till the end of the year. The Slide is nice, but I doubt its staying potential, unless android get a lot more optimization; there are a few things I have read that would help though. (a new Dalvik VM called Dalvik turbo is one)

It didn't take long, I returned the slide shortly after getting the nexus one. With swype this phone is fantastic, and I can actually type faster than on the keyboard off the slide. Of course, now the vanguard or whatever it's called her been leaked, so if you really need the hardware keyboard, you could wait for that in September.
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[Q] Should I sell my S4 for a Moto X?

So, a little bit of background... I'm on AT&T with a Galaxy S4. AT&T has the bootloader locked up tight so I can't get rid of any of the bloat, or try other ROMs. I was thinking about selling it and going for a Moto X or a N5 but I shied away from the N5 due to camera, battery, and speaker issues. I like the idea that the X is assembled in the US and stuff but mainly I want a phone I can tinker with.
I understand by leaving the S4 I'd be downgrading in screen quality, processing power, IR blaster and camera. I'm not really a phone gamer so I don't know that I'd need all that power. I've heard the X can hold its own in the realm of processing speed and screen but the camera is probably the biggest drawback.
Is it worth it? Convince me. I'm thinking hard about Monday's sale. I want the unlocked DEV ED version but I'd rather be able to motomaker it. If I were to get the AT&T one off contract, would it come branded and locked? Can I load a custom recovery, etc? Thanks for your help.

You want a phone to tinker with? This phone isn't for you.
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DroidOnRoids said:
You want a phone to tinker with? This phone isn't for you.
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Why not? I should explain my definition of "tinker". I am not a programmer and I don't build my own roms. I just like using others and more customization.

This phone barely has ROMs. It doesn't really need any because it is a stock android experience. If you do want to tinker, the N5 would be a better option. However I prefer the Moto X (had both.)

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Why not? I should explain my definition of "tinker". I am not a programmer and I don't build my own roms. I just like using others and more customization.
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It isn't needed on this phone. The S4 needed it because it was so laggy and touchwiz ruined pretty much everything.

finalarcadia said:
This phone barely has ROMs. It doesn't really need any because it is a stock android experience. If you do want to tinker, the N5 would be a better option. However I prefer the Moto X (had both.)
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Why do you prefer the Moto X? Will I miss not having CM support or many other roms?

In my old android age(started with cupcake) I am looking for a flawless experience, I have been through the crack flashing and modding stages and I can tell you the Moto X is the phone I will be keeping for a long time. The reason people are not building custom roms is that they are not needed. The android experience is amazing. I have had no lagging what so ever and believe me I have tried to cause lag. Yes on paper it is slower than a S4 but in real world performance it is what I think android users have been looking for. The Battery is amazing. My wife who uses her phone almost all day for work commented that she did not have to charge her phone at all during the day and still had about 35% when she got home. The camera on this phone is great. Again if you get down to the paper specs the S4 is probably better but in real world performance the camera is great. Make the jump my friend, you will not regret it.

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In my old android age(started with cupcake) I am looking for a flawless experience, I have been through the crack flashing and modding stages and I can tell you the Moto X is the phone I will be keeping for a long time. The reason people are not building custom roms is that they are not needed. The android experience is amazing. I have had no lagging what so ever and believe me I have tried to cause lag. Yes on paper it is slower than a S4 but in real world performance it is what I think android users have been looking for. The Battery is amazing. My wife who uses her phone almost all day for work commented that she did not have to charge her phone at all during the day and still had about 35% when she got home. The camera on this phone is great. Again if you get down to the paper specs the S4 is probably better but in real world performance the camera is great. Make the jump my friend, you will not regret it.
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WAIT DID YOU JUST SAY THE CAMERA ON THIS PHONE IS GREAT?? Your joking right?

Andrew149 said:
WAIT DID YOU JUST SAY THE CAMERA ON THIS PHONE IS GREAT?? Your joking right?
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I said it was great not awesome or the best out there.

chirpa12 said:
Why do you prefer the Moto X? Will I miss not having CM support or many other roms?
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Personally all I like from CM are battery percentages & customizable tiles. Very minor things compared to the features of the moto x: active notifications, touchless controls, camera gesture. Also I like AMOLED screen, size, speaker & design better than N5.

I came from a S2 that I ROM'ed the crap out of. As stated the Moto x doesn't need ROM"s but if, like me, you want a different battery, percentage, and a few other tweaks like center clock and different quick tile settings, then all that is needed is root, exposed framework, and gravity box.
Love this phone.

I'll be honest and say I've never believed in any of Samsung's Android products. I tell myself every single time Samsung releases a handset - the hardware's one of the best, but I wouldn't be caught dead being seen using that hardware and software. (I only got the Galaxy Nexus because, well, Nexus.) There. I openly declare my love for the stock Android experience, and even looking at the S4s my friends use there will be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth coming from me whenever I have to use one.
But I digress. This phone is one of the purchases I have not regretted. Never mind the fact that I had snafus with payment from eBay that resulted in some US$100 taken from me for no reason, never mind the delay in shipping that was caused by a friend of mine, never mind the emotional trauma that I had to go through for a whole month before I got this phone. This is a phone where I can tell people it offers one of the best user experience, everything ranging from the software and its functions, down to the hardware and its design. (Hell, I'd go out on a limb and say this trumps the iPhone.)
In defense of my Moto X, the camera has substantially improved since the first version of software. I'm currently on a KitKat ROM of the Verizon variant, and I wouldn't shy away from using it anymore (though, yes, improvements surely can be made). If you're coming from an S4 (and I pray and assume that you've changed your ROM to something non-TouchWiz) you'll have to get used to the lower quality of photos, as well as the speeds granted by the phone.
Until now, I've never had the need to install anything to augment my experience. I haven't installed any of the Xposed mods yet, but I'm planning to soon as I'm missing some of the features granted by custom ROMs (slide down right for shortcuts, vibrate on call connect, etc). But beyond the addition of the features that Motorola actively promotes, such as its Active Notifications, Touchless Controls and Assist, this is going to be the most stock you'll ever get from a well-known phone company. This is how customization is done.
Well, now that I've expressed my love for the phone, I hope to see you joining the Moto X family soon. Now excuse me while I stop sounding like a complete Motorola fanboy. (But seriously, though. The way Motorola has leaped back into the game is nothing short of impressive.)

finalarcadia said:
Personally all I like from CM are battery percentages & customizable tiles. Very minor things compared to the features of the moto x: active notifications, touchless controls, camera gesture. Also I like AMOLED screen, size, speaker & design better than N5.
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Not to mention you can get all those features with xposed and gravitybox without even changing the very stable stock rom.
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RagnaParadise said:
If you're coming from an S4 (and I pray and assume that you've changed your ROM to something non-TouchWiz) you'll have to get used to the lower quality of photos, as well as the speeds granted by the phone.
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That's the whole problem. I can't go to a different rom because the bootloader is locked up tight. Noone has been able to crack it.

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That's the whole problem. I can't go to a different rom because the bootloader is locked up tight. Noone has been able to crack it.
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Then whatcha waiting for? Run baby run. Lol
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So if I were to pull the trigger on this, I don't want to trade one locked bootloader for another. The AT&T version is unlockable right?

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So if I were to pull the trigger on this, I don't want to trade one locked bootloader for another. The AT&T version is unlockable right?
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On the contrary. The AT&T version has a permanently locked bootloader (at least, until someone finds something to attack it). You'll need to look at other versions. I'm not sure about which spectrum the carriers in the US use, but your best bet would be the Developers' Edition. Or, if you can lay your hands on one (which is going at a pretty high price nowadays), Latin American versions will work too.
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RagnaParadise said:
On the contrary. The AT&T version has a permanently locked bootloader (at least, until someone finds something to attack it). You'll need to look at other versions. I'm not sure about which spectrum the carriers in the US use, but your best bet would be the Developers' Edition. Or, if you can lay your hands on one (which is going at a pretty high price nowadays), Latin American versions will work too.
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Thanks Ragna. Sounds like the TMO version is the right one for me. It sounds like others are able to use it no problem on AT&T and install a custom recovery.

chirpa12 said:
Thanks Ragna. Sounds like the TMO version is the right one for me. It sounds like others are able to use it no problem on AT&T and install a custom recovery.
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Heh. Enjoy! I love this phone. This is after paying almost 700-800 bucks on this phone, and being deprived of LTE usage. (The frequency band Singapore and Malaysia uses for LTE is not supported by the X.) Even then, the tradeoff is still worth it for me. Heh
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go on my friend you will not regret it, I love this phone and just the stock android experience is awesome!
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go on my friend you will not regret it, I love this phone and just the stock android experience is awesome!

I've made my decision....

I have both the G4 and the S6, as you may or may not know the S6 is unlockable and has had root for a while now. Despite that, I have decided to keep my G4, the potential locked in this phone is way too much to give up on. Odd thing is, the G4
doesnt seem to have had its radios tweaked or optimized, the S6 is a touch faster both on WiFi and LTE. The downside is
the bloat ball called touchwiz. It's choppy and eats a TON of ram. UX 4.0 is far and away better. As far as the cameras go, the
camera on the G4 is faster at getting locked in on what i'm shooting, but when zoomed in, the picture almost looks like an
oil painting. Once we do eventually get the G4 unlocked, I hope we get a camera mod much like the one I had for the G3.
I'm also looking forward to viper4android, that's definitely a must have for Google music imo. Anyway, hopefully we'll get
our beasts unlocked soon.

I agree totally. I had the s6 for a while. It has some awesome features and the camera is great, but it always was buggy and the ram issue was horrible. The G4 may not be perfect but I am enjoying it a lot more than my s6.

painedglass said:
I have both the G4 and the S6, as you may or may not know the S6 is unlockable and has had root for a while now. Despite that, I have decided to keep my G4, the potential locked in this phone is way too much to give up on. Odd thing is, the G4
doesnt seem to have had its radios tweaked or optimized, the S6 is a touch faster both on WiFi and LTE. The downside is
the bloat ball called touchwiz. It's choppy and eats a TON of ram. UX 4.0 is far and away better. As far as the cameras go, the
camera on the G4 is faster at getting locked in on what i'm shooting, but when zoomed in, the picture almost looks like an
oil painting. Once we do eventually get the G4 unlocked, I hope we get a camera mod much like the one I had for the G3.
I'm also looking forward to viper4android, that's definitely a must have for Google music imo. Anyway, hopefully we'll get
our beasts unlocked soon.
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I concur with both of you. I had the S6 Edge and sold it for the G4. I'm just surprised we not only don't have root yet, but that there hasn't really been any direct talk of if anyone is close. That is a big concern to me. From my experience, there are usually folks chatting about their progress (or lack thereof). Anyway, love the device so far....

ShermCraig said:
I concur with both of you. I had the S6 Edge and sold it for the G4. I'm just surprised we not only don't have root yet, but that there hasn't really been any direct talk of if anyone is close. That is a big concern to me. From my experience, there are usually folks chatting about their progress (or lack thereof). Anyway, love the device so far....
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i agree too on going with the G4, i sold my nexus 5 and got the G4 before i even checked in here to see if it was rootable/unlockable yet
and the reason no one is talking about it is that so many people come in here complaining about no root or not being able to unlock their phone yet, but it is being worked on and in fact the devs doing it have unlocked carrier phones (from what i have seen), they are just working on a way to make it easy for the general public to do it and to make sure there is a way back or at least a way to not brick your phone. plus LG is on here too so there isnt much chatter here so that LG doesnt patch what they are working on before they can even get it out to us
it will come i am sure of it

Me too, i find this to be this first device i could use without root, i would still rather have it than not, but i could own this phone long term without it. Glad to see a positive note and people having the same experience i am with the phone. I also was a former S6 owner, my wife has it now so i can really check them out side by side and its no contest, and thats with my wife on a custom rom.

I was thinking how far phones have come since I got my first Android phone back in 2012 (Mytouch 4G Slide) Some great ROMS on that old thing. I moved on up to a Nexus 4 from that. The so called professional review sites claim that the differences between the S6 and G4 cameras are so small that it's hard to pick a clear cut winner, but I tell you, the only flaw in the G4's camera is the over sharpening. The S6's camera software kinda sucks, the viewfinder looks grainy and the pictures aren't any better. The ram issue sealed it for me, the darn thing has 3gb of ram available, how does T/W use that much?

Wow, so sad to see no progress on root and twrp. I bought this device thinking I was getting the "full" flagship experience.
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Rydah805 said:
Wow, so sad to see no progress on root and twrp. I bought this device thinking I was getting the "full" flagship experience.
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Me tooooooooo. Im for one thought this will be where i will end up building some roms and custom kernels but man im so frustrated it with this phone is not even funny.
My flashaholic coaster is over. Is so sad.....

Rydah805 said:
Wow, so sad to see no progress on root and twrp. I bought this device thinking I was getting the "full" flagship experience.
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define full flagship experience?
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and just because no one is posting about it doesnt mean no one is working on it. give it time, dang, the phones only been out for 2 and a half months. thats the problem with xda these days, we are so hellbent on having root and being unlocked so we can void our warranty and flash firmware to our expensive devices for what? so we can say "hey look i unlocked my phone and flashed CM on it, take that LG, now my phone is not near as good as it was when i bought it"
LMAO
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Midnight_Rider said:
define full flagship experience?
[soapbox]
and just because no one is posting about it doesnt mean no one is working on it. give it time, dang, the phones only been out for 2 and a half months. thats the problem with xda these days, we are so hellbent on having root and being unlocked so we can void our warranty and flash firmware to our expensive devices for what? so we can say "hey look i unlocked my phone and flashed CM on it, take that LG, now my phone is not near as good as it was when i bought it"
LMAO
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It was a figure of speech. Lol. In reality, I'm good without root for a while.
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I just want ad blocking... Custom ROM's aren't my thing anymore.

Love the phone but the jank is really starting to get to me. Picked up my N5 today and was shocked at how much smoother it was than my G4

Hi all, jumped the Sammy ship after some 3.5 years using Galaxy devices (latest was a S4). It's actually the first time I get a flagship almost when it's been released, and so far this phone seems like a great device. I'm not looking for custom ROMs yet, root would be nice, but as it stands it's an awesome Android flagship.

donwhall70 said:
Love the phone but the jank is really starting to get to me. Picked up my N5 today and was shocked at how much smoother it was than my G4
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Glad to see some people are not afraid to state the truth. I have a g4 s6 nexus 5 and oneplus one now and the g4 is the slowest. Just sits on my desk. Is funny how oneplus one and nexus 5 feel way faster than the s6 and g4.
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Biggest issue I'm having is with WiFi. I'm not sure if it just slows itself down or becomes unresponsive but there's something that's making my internet hang.

I had the same issue. I installed DNSet and my WiFi started working better
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ambervals6 said:
Glad to see some people are not afraid to state the truth. I have a g4 s6 nexus 5 and oneplus one now and the g4 is the slowest. Just sits on my desk. Is funny how oneplus one and nexus 5 feel way faster than the s6 and g4.
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Same here. My One Plus is smoother and faster . Rooted Zmax is faster . Love the form factor of the G4 ,but text and mms issues are starting to annoy me to no end....

Because the N5 use stock android, the biggest advantage of the G4 is much longer battery life. For me it's matter because the battery on Nexus is non-swapable and battery life is not good.
ambervals6 said:
Glad to see some people are not afraid to state the truth. I have a g4 s6 nexus 5 and oneplus one now and the g4 is the slowest. Just sits on my desk. Is funny how oneplus one and nexus 5 feel way faster than the s6 and g4.
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Left the note 4 because of the crap camera taking forever to focus and the gps that never could find a signal. At first i thought i made a mistake because of the lag i was getting before updating to the new N update and i am not looking back. The g4, at its 479 price point is a monster

davwman said:
Left the note 4 because of the crap camera taking forever to focus and the gps that never could find a signal. At first i thought i made a mistake because of the lag i was getting before updating to the new N update and i am not looking back. The g4, at its 479 price point is a monster
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So you do have camera focusing problem with note 4..I thought it was just me..