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Ok this is a thread I hope that will catch on. So basically I own an iPod and iPad and now I own an android phone and I love android phones, but there are still tons of features from iOS which I love and hope would be/have been implemented on updates
I'm sure most of you own an apple device and I just want this to be a thread where you describe features you love (even the smallest thing) on your apple devices that ANDROID DOES NOT HAVE and lets hope an android official would read it and add the features to future updates
Now let me Start off to say android NEEDs to have a stock ebook reader app, not from other providers that comes pre installed I'm taking like google books but better. I'm a readaholic and the apple iBooks is fabulous, I love the feature where you can go from day to night contrast, I know there is an app in the market with similar feature but its not easy on the eyes and just not comparable. Next is the dictionary I love the feature so if I didn't understand a word I would just highlight it and click on define and it would have the meaning and once again I know there is such a in an app in the market but it requires internet connection which is dumb, what if I'm in the subway reading and don't have reception.
Another feature I have come to love is the reader feature where it removes all the ads and everything from the main page and just has the words. I love this feature when I read long Wikipedia articles and stuff and once again it has the define for words I don't know also the feature where you can save it for future reading is awesome.
Most of you probably by now think I'm a nerd as i read alot but i just love reading, its like tv in your head of course doesnt beat the real thbfing but its fun to read. ANYWAYS There are tons of feature in-between I would like on the android but for now I'll leave to you guys to contribute what feature you want from apple to android, even the smallest lamest feature you might think. Sometimes the feature we want is already there but just not good enough which I totally get but anyways lets start contributing people.
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With Safari browser in IOS, you can tap the status bar to go back to the top of the web page, very useful with some long website.
Safari browser, its the best mobile browser by a long mile!
I don't have an iphone but I do want to say that as an android user I really couldn't care less what the stock apps are. There is almost nothing on my note that I haven't replaced with something that I liked better.
If you haven't found an application you liked though, that's another issue.
You realize iBooks is Apple's attempt to copy the kindle app: dictionary, black and white contrast screen, and whispersync.
I like Apple products too--but for the record--Apple didn't invent the mp3 player, the smart phone, or the e book reader.
Check out the kindle app; it's free. And it has all the features you want.
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Safari browser, its the best mobile browser by a long mile!
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Safari lacks auto fit paragraph to the width of the screen for pinch and zoom function.
This is one of the deal breakers for me when considering Android vs iphone. Others such as non-3rd party keyboard and small screen.
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This belongs in General as it has nothing to do specifically with the Note.
Ads, just root it (it the jailbreak for Android, let's say) and install AdFree or AdAway.
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Well you have so much more freedom with an android phone, im sure u get everything you need in an android phone and iOS still lacks
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You realize iBooks is Apple's attempt to copy the kindle app: dictionary, black and white contrast screen, and whispersync.
I like Apple products too--but for the record--Apple didn't invent the mp3 player, the smart phone, or the e book reader.
Check out the kindle app; it's free. And it has all the features you want.
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And Kindle isn't limited to just one platform--- it's available for your PC, Android, iOS devices, Blackberries... Not sure if Symbian is supported. Either way, Kindle is universal.
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Most of you probably by now think I'm a nerd as i read alot but i just love reading, its like tv in your head of course doesnt beat the real thbfing but its fun to read.
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Hey, you're not the only one who loves reading here. I do, too. Other than this phone, I also have a Desire HD and a Sensation XE (DHD is my first Android) and I prefer my main phones with big screen real estate, mainly because I read e-books on them. I have to admit that I still like the traditional books--- nothing like the smell and the texture of a new book and feeling it on your hands but I've come to know the advantages of e-books over paper books, mainly portability. With e-books and your phone, you can read anywhere and anything you like from your app's shelf without breaking your shoulder bones from all the carrying around of thick, heavy hardcovers. And there are many times of the day when I have nothing to do which could be better spent reading--- like waiting in line or during commercials if I'm watching TV. Besides, e-book copies are usually cheaper than real books so if I like something, I can go off and purchase it electronically and then if I find myself liking it, that's when I purchase the real thing.
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You realize iBooks is Apple's attempt to copy the kindle app: dictionary, black and white contrast screen, and whispersync.
I like Apple products too--but for the record--Apple didn't invent the mp3 player, the smart phone, or the e book reader.
Check out the kindle app; it's free. And it has all the features you want.
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Wtf? This thread has nothing to do with who copied who or what came first. It has to do with features that ios has that android doesn't. Let's not turn it into a debate of who had what first or who is better.
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Time for some intervention to get this thread back on its rails!
I think the one thing that iOS has that android needs is buttery smoothness. iOS has beautiful screen rotation animations, and hardly ever stutters when scrolling. Admittedly, the smooth scrolling has to do with how apple has true multi touch, while androids is emulated, but that has to do with how apple is a money grabbing pissfart corporation that thinks that they can patent everything and inhibit technological progression. But that is for a different thread.
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I also enjoy how iOS applications tend to look nice and more professional. 90% of Android apps look like they were designed for use with Windows 97. Nasty fluorescent colors, jagged edges, all around child like. Apple has to approve their apps before publishing which is good because the end user profits in that situation.
One last thing android needs is a good keyboard. Apples keyboard has special key prediction techniques that predict what keys will be pressed next and then makes that key's sensor area larger so that it is easier to press it. Also, when you long press text in iOS, you get a magnifying glass that makes it easier to fine tune text selection. I've only ever seen this in devices running sense UI. This needs to be universal.
(About the screen auto rotate animations, ice cream sandwich does a good job implementing it, its just that it still isn't as smooth, and ICS isn't readily available to most android phones without having to root, and even then, a lot of things are broken in ICS roms.
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Time for some intervention to get this thread back on its rails!
I think the one thing that iOS has that android needs is buttery smoothness. iOS has beautiful screen rotation animations, and hardly ever stutters when scrolling. Admittedly, the smooth scrolling has to do with how apple has true multi touch, while androids is emulated, but that has to do with how apple is a money grabbing pissfart corporation that thinks that they can patent everything and inhibit technological progression. But that is for a different thread.
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I also enjoy how iOS applications tend to look nice and more professional. 90% of Android apps look like they were designed for use with Windows 97. Nasty fluorescent colors, jagged edges, all around child like. Apple has to approve their apps before publishing which is good because the end user profits in that situation.
One last thing android needs is a good keyboard. Apples keyboard has special key prediction techniques that predict what keys will be pressed next and then makes that key's sensor area larger so that it is easier to press it. Also, when you long press text in iOS, you get a magnifying glass that makes it easier to fine tune text selection. I've only ever seen this in devices running sense UI. This needs to be universal.
(About the screen auto rotate animations, ice cream sandwich does a good job implementing it, its just that it still isn't as smooth, and ICS isn't readily available to most android phones without having to root, and even then, a lot of things are broken in ICS roms.
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If you can flash MIUI Rom on your phone then i would suggest it. Its as close to ios as android can get.
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If you can flash MIUI Rom on your phone then i would suggest it. Its as close to ios as android can get.
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I can and I have. It is by far the best Rom out there, but this is beside the point. The point is to discuss what STOCK android needs, if I read the OP right. Plus MIUI doesn't offer the keyboard, animation, magnifying glass, or smoothness aforementioned.
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xristiano said:
You realize iBooks is Apple's attempt to copy the kindle app: dictionary, black and white contrast screen, and whispersync.
I like Apple products too--but for the record--Apple didn't invent the mp3 player, the smart phone, or the e book reader.
Check out the kindle app; it's free. And it has all the features you want.
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Yea I'm aware that apple were not the ones to invent them first, it was someone else's idea butbapple just made it a billion times better
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fabu09 said:
Yea I'm aware that apple were not the ones to invent them first, it was someone else's idea butbapple just made it a billion times better
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No they didn't, all they did was successfully suck you in with their craptastic marketing.
The only thing I like about apple is that I don't own any of their devices. Heres a tip go on a pro apple site and make a thread about the benefits of android or WP7 over ios.
Annnnnd we go down hill.
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I also enjoy how iOS applications tend to look nice and more professional. 90% of Android apps look like they were designed for use with Windows 97. Nasty fluorescent colors, jagged edges, all around child like. Apple has to approve their apps before publishing which is good because the end user profits in that situation.
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Completely agree, the same issue on my previous Nokia phone. When I download apps it just looks so bugle because some apps look professional, some look pixelated, somenjust blank at times. In apple they are proffesional weather they are free apps or paid apps, they are all slick
Another thing I hope is in ics is emoticons, not talking about the original android faces. I'm talking the emoji ones from apple, I love those and some of it are funny, putting an emoticon on a text message like have a good day or good night just cheers people up (I have noticed).
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So I checked out the kindle and I don't see a way to add books your own books, which is a disappointment I got tons of books from ibooks store
But thanks suggesting anyway
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I don't own any Apple products. I never will AND THERE IS NOTHING FROM iOS I WANT.
Wasn't me!! I didn't do it!
I finally got around to my review:
http://ninjafrog.tumblr.com/post/28888180324/nexus7
Nexus 7 Review (From An iPad User)
Well to be fair you have to compare it to a ipod touch, as they are the same price.
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I finally got around to my review:
http://ninjafrog.tumblr.com/post/28888180324/nexus7
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Totally disagree with bur post on some of the cons. I own an android phone, iPhone and an iPad.
The thing that bothers me the most (as with several other iOS users) is that the is is so simple its just out right stupid. The fact that apple has to resort to a screenful of icons that do nothing except show a picture of a static image. Of course its fast, there's nothing to do when scrolling.
The notifications in iOS is useless. I constantly see 1 week old emails in my iOS notifications screen.
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I finally got around to my review:
http://ninjafrog.tumblr.com/post/28888180324/nexus7
Nexus 7 Review (From An iPad User)
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The reson iOS is "fast" it's because it doesn't do true multi-tasking. It literally shuts everything down except foreground app. This works great in the era of Palm OS. But as you notice in Android, more and more apps are always on continuously. (eg. all those widgets, web apps, etc are all running and doing something on the background)
Apple will be in a lot of trouble when it tries to put on "widget, because then it will have to do true multi-tasking... (then we will see what iOS lag is.)
It's easy to force user only to push one icon at a time. It doesn't need quad processor/1.4Ghz just to show 4 rows of icons. Of course the damned thing will be insanely fast, since all the processor is doing is flipping pages that contains nothing but 4 rows of icons. But that won't be enough anymore... Let's talk when iPad is doing full service widget and multi-tasking like android.
The lack of physical buttons does get very frustrating... I don't have anything with virtual keys but i know the buttons on my sensation piss me off occasionally when i hit back instead of space. I actually find myself missing the space bar a lot because i try to avoid the back button instead. Swiftkey helps for that correcting words.
And god is the back button on android annoying. I hate how it's like the lottery, hmm... what was i doing before this place... let's see, nope crap, home screen.
But for all that, android is still fun because of widgets and the openness. I think it's like mac vs windows for me... I enjoy having the company of both. Since you don't like your nexus 7 as much anymore... let me give it a whirl? =D
I have the nexus 7 and an iPad 3. I do like customizing my nexus 7 with widgets and such but I actually like the way my iPad handles "multitasking". I use both for different circumstances. I hate web surfing on the nexus and reading PDF files but I prefer the form factor more for gaming on the nexus. Both work great for email and video for me. I don't think any device can fully satisfy all my needs but the combination of the two covers me across the board. I have to credit google and asus. I have never liked android but this completely changed my mind and I find myself promoting both to family and friends based on their needs. When I travel I mount my nexus 7 on my dash for navigation which is tethered to my awesome iPhone 4s so they as well as us here can play nice together lol
I'm not an Apple fan really, but I've owned an iPad 1 and now have an iPad 3, but think of myself as more of an Android fan...
Your cons are wrong, they are your opinions of course. But I think when you spend some time with Android they probably won't really bother you much. Here are my thoughts on those things you mentioned...
The 16:10 form factor (it's not 16:9).
I do actually like Apple's 4:3 ratio quite a bit. I wish someone would make a high quality Android tablet in that form factor. While I don't dislike 16:10. I do like holding my tablet in portrait mode and with 4:3 it's still wide enough in portrait that websites are still readable.
With the Nexus 7 though I'm liking 16:10 more than I probably would on a 10 inch tablet. With a 10 inch tablet I can't really hold a tablet one handed in landscape mode for too long because of the weight, hence why I like portrait mode. But with this 7 inch Nexus 7, I find it's light enough that I can hold it in landscape mode one handed and not be uncomfortable.
It's strong point is most of the screen is used when playing videos. There is some letter boxing (most videos are 16:9 and the screen is 16:10), but it's minor and some apps have the soft keys dimmed on the screen, so just enough room for them and still seeing all of the video. It's perfect.
Chrome does get cramped feeling though in landscape with the tabs and address bar and menu bar at top and the softkeys on the bottom. I wish Chrome had a full screen mode so bad. Maybe some day. Until then there is Dolphin.
The keyboard realestate is a non issue for me since I'm busy looking at the keyboard when I'm typing anyway.
Soft keys.
I'm fine with them. But yeah I've hit the home button instead of the space bar. The Nexus 7 uses the phone UI by default. I like like the tablet UI with the soft keys being off to the left side and the menu bar and notifications being on the right side. And you can switch to that UI if you are rooted and following a simple guide.
I do sometimes wish Android had a home button. My Touchpad and Nook Color with Android do and it's nice to be able to wake the device up with that button on the front instead of having to search for the power button on the side. But other than that, I don't really miss physical buttons much.
Back button.
Never thought much about the back button in Android. I guess I've exited an app quite a bit that I didn't mean too, but I guess I've gotten used to it and just go back into the app. I think always knowing where the back button is outweighs the occasional mess up on my part.
Project butter.
Android still needs more work to match iOS's smoothness. Agreed.
Tablet apps.
Hopefully in time this will improve. The issue is we've had Android 2.x for phones and Android 3.x for tablets. Android 4.x unified things, but it's still on a minority of Android devices. And developers just seem to love Apple more (guess it's easier when developing for a hand full of devices versus hundreds).
Seeing the DirecTV on my iPad and then on my Android, I want to cry.
Audio.
Never though of multitasking audio as bad. Whatever is playing is usually found in the notification tray, so if something is still playing, I can pause or stop it very quickly.
by all the Android users I see in the real world doing double or triple taps on their device to make sure their input goes through. Coincidentally, I see Windows users do this all the time too.
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And iOS users dont? My friends don't use apple very much but I have a friend with iFon 4S, and I always remember he is tapping one or more times OS to recognises his touchs. This is just a part, you are total apple "lover" on your review.
I just aggree about software keys, they suck.
we might be seeing an 8’ iPad for as little as $250-$300 then I really don’t see anyone picking the Nexus 7 over an iPad
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Do you really have a hope to get an Apple device for $250? Good luck
I am really bored of reading Apple fans reviews. They are way too "fair".
Low end Chinese tablets already hitting sub $150. This is powered by dual cores A10, 50nm. By the time apple fans done waiting for magical mini iPad to show up, low cost chinese tablet will be dual core, 40nm. 1.2GHz or so. (in other word, current high end iPad.) Allwinner is already reported to work with ARM creating next generation low cost CPU.
Apple has zero chance winning price war competing against Android.
On the high end side, apple has no chance catching against android either on GPU front. Apple doesn't have its own architecture (as oppose to nVidia, qualcomm/ati, or samsung) Apple's chip will always have bigger size, use more power, running hotter, expensive to make, compared to same fabrication node. Apple CPU is the Chevy Suburban of CPU world.
some battery comparison
iPad3 ...11666 mAh
Nexus7 ...4326 mAh
Transformer TF700 ...6757 mAh
Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 ...7000 mAh
I'm going to say this for everybody and also as a former apple fan who has seen the light.
"Who gives a sh*t about an iPad users lame opinion about an open os and a powerful device too complicated for simple minded sheeple!"
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I take the points about the soft buttons, but the touch responsiveness on my N7 is great. I think you might have a defective device?
Project Butter: While 4.1 (and the Nexus 7) is the smoothest, fastest, and most consistent Android experience I’ve had; the first iPhone with iOS 1.0 still puts it to shame. When I bought the first iPhone I came from a flip phone. No “smart phone” (I use that term loosely for pre-iPhone smartphones) no BlackBerry, no PDA. So everything with the iPhone was eye-opening for me, and for a lot of people. For me though I was amazed at the UX (user experience) of the OS. Swiping in apps, pinch-to-zoom, double-tab-to-zoom, and the rubber band effect in lists impressed me to no end. Apple dedicates a certain percentage of resources to the UX to keep it smooth and responsive, and they have since day one. My number one complaint with Android has been their touch responsiveness, or lack there of. With “Project Butter” it is much better, but no where close to iOS. If iOS is a 10, I’d rate 4.1 (on the Nexus 7) at a 6 or 7.
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seriously mate
you have the iBug therefore you can never review android fairly
iUsers somehow mix nostalgia with facts with delusions with whatever and hey presto, iPhone 1 was running at 60fps on it's thermo nuclear processor haha
iFanBoys just stick to your devices, bias people shouldn't write reviews. Go away
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Seriously, 4 out of the 5 first bullet points were "this is not like the iPad; I don't like it".
As for the remaining one, I don't actually trust someone who tries to compare speed by eye; unfortunately, as hamdir hinted, this is subject to way too much confirmation bias.
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Soft buttons are, in fact, an insanely good idea (though I admit they might be ahead of their time), because they're the only type that can be significantly modded. I'm still waiting for rob43 to get a N7 so that he can port over his Salad Bar II. And without softkeys, you can't implement features like edge swiping to bring up/hide the nav bar like in Glazed ROM; you're just stuck with an inflexible button orientation forever.
Finally, I can't honestly believe you're advocating reaching up to God-knows-where in each app just to hit a back button. If you really want to reach around everytime because that's what you do in iOS, then good for you; I'll be sticking to the back button that's near my fingers, tyvm.
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Seriously, 4 out of the 5 first bullet points were "this is not like the iPad; I don't like it".
As for the other one, I don't actually trust someone who tries to compare speed by eye; unfortunately, as hamdir said, this is subject to way too much confirmation bias.
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As for the back button, I can't honestly believe you're advocating reaching up to God-knows-where in each app to hit a back button. If you really want to reach up everytime because that's what you do in iOS, then good for you; I'll be sticking to the back button that's near my fingers, tyvm.
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Thanks. Exactly what I thought. It seems like you're (OP) trying to be fair and professional but actually have an extreme bias and are giving cons because it's not like what you like, its competitor.
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Was this written by Apple!
There is no comparison iPad3 is £600 for top spec and Nexus 7 is £200, iPad3 is not 3 times better or worth 3 times as much!
Apple doesn't even have a product to compare to, closest would be iPod Touch.
iOS and Android both have strengths and weaknesses.
iOS is aim at the less technical consumers who needs big buttons, iTunes and want things to just work.
Android is Open Source and is aim at consumers with more technically knowledge & providing the ability for customisation.
I no longer own any iOS devices (previously iPhone4, iPad2) this is because every revision of iOS, Apple has locked that the OS even more.
- Example: you can no longer have direct access to GPU
- My £400 iPad2 cant play 1080p out of the box, iTunes movies are 720p, where as Nexus 7 plays both straight up at half the price.
Also, Apple hardware is old tech (they have never been cutting edge, they are more of a marketing company than tech)
They just take existing tech and put together in a shinny Apple stamped case and sell it to morons who are happy to queues for days and pay 3 times the price.
What a tool. Save yourself time. You can sum it up in a sentence.
"it's not like an iPad".
Man. No offense but your "review" sucks... Maybe you are better in some other crap then doing technical reviews.
You compare the nexus 7 to an ipad mini which we don't even know for sure there will be one, but and you are already able to mention how good it will be and what will be the price?
If you want to sound like an expert. Try to root your device, try to download a torrent file while you are browsing and synchronizing some folders of your computer with some of your nexus. Try to put a firewall where you decide what apps can read which informations about you. Try the SwiftKey keyboard, and some nice widgets. Go to your home server folders over VPN or ftp to stream your movie collection.
Do it on your ipad
I will order a nexus 7 as soon as it is available in my country.
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Here's a hint, the Nexus 7 shouldn't be compared to an ipad. They are two very different devices.
Guys, there are some people who will follow the Apple train to the grave. Let him have his review and rows of icons, while you customize and multitask for half the price.
Apps: With the Nexus 7 having such great specs, I was hopping to really see what kind of muscle it had while at the same time checking out some great Android apps. I had a very difficult time finding quality apps in the store; made for a tablet. All the basic apps were there: twitter, Facebook, Dropbox, Netflix, kindle, but they all just seemed like phone apps stretched out. This usually results in large blank spaces and awkward buttons that are too big or too small for what they should be. Then the amount of apps is stunningly small. I have heard this before, but seeing it, was still shocking. I didn’t think it was THAT bad. Doing a search for a twitter app gives you maybe 3-4 usual apps, none that I liked. Next I looked for a Dropbox text editor and I found one. This is a category that is flourishing on iOS. There is an insane amount of Dropbox/markdown/iCloud text editors on iOS. Google Reader which I used everyday had a few very crappy apps in the store not including the built-in official Google Reader app in 4.1, which sucks as well.
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anybody know what this notepad/dropbox text editor he is talking about? Why can't he use random text editor and save it to drop box? It's hard to reply since he doesn't clearly say what app/specific feature he is looking for/what is his iPad app list. I thought just about any notepad sync with dropbox these days...
Hell there is one done by xda forumer too.. (Why can't he simply google 'android notepad dropbox'?)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865456
the store search says 137...(discounting 4.1 filter. but I assume they all work in JB. How much more notepad choice does he need? if he needs something more complicated, he is looking for different tool.)
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=notepad+dropbox&c=apps
and there is 1000 entry for anything related to Tumblr. (I assume he is using notepad to collect material for tumblr, since he is on one) There got to be something in there for his need...
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=tumblr&c=apps
Also, what exact "reader" he is looking for? general RSS? There should be plenty of option than google reader.
Is there a way to change the homepage in internet explorer to something else? I looked in the settings and didn't see anything. I also searched the forum to no avail.
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Is there a way to change the homepage in internet explorer to something else? I looked in the settings and didn't see anything. I also searched the forum to no avail.
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Easy answer? Unfortunately... It's no.
Aloha,
I forgot you couldn't do this. I forgot because I loaded up the homepage I wanted and pinned it to the homescreen and removed IE.
Do you think that will help?
That sounds easy enough. This is a much different, albeit smoother beast than Android. I have been an avid Android user for going on three years now. I got the opportunity the other day to get an HTC 8X on VZW for 100 bucks, so I scooped it up. I really like the platform, it is a refreshing change from the same old with Android. I still have a Note 2, but I really like WP8. I must have spent 20 minutes looking for a way to change the homepage though.
It seems like there are a lot of basic, common sense things that are missing from WP8; setting the home page is a big one. I also wish there was tabbed browsing, but I'm sure that horse has been beaten dead at this point. I'm also perplexed by the lack of super popular apps. For instance, I can't find a Pulse News App on WP8. That app is HUGE on Android and iOS, yet it is nowhere to be found in the store, Oh well, I think I'll take your advice and pin the homepage I want to the home screen.
I don't remember we have a default homepage on IE Mobile, lol.
about:blank is all we have.
It didn't bother me tho.
You should check out uc browser for tabs.
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That sounds easy enough. This is a much different, albeit smoother beast than Android. I have been an avid Android user for going on three years now. I got the opportunity the other day to get an HTC 8X on VZW for 100 bucks, so I scooped it up. I really like the platform, it is a refreshing change from the same old with Android. I still have a Note 2, but I really like WP8. I must have spent 20 minutes looking for a way to change the homepage though.
It seems like there are a lot of basic, common sense things that are missing from WP8; setting the home page is a big one. I also wish there was tabbed browsing, but I'm sure that horse has been beaten dead at this point. I'm also perplexed by the lack of super popular apps. For instance, I can't find a Pulse News App on WP8. That app is HUGE on Android and iOS, yet it is nowhere to be found in the store, Oh well, I think I'll take your advice and pin the homepage I want to the home screen.
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Try fuse or weaver as a pulse alternative. Not as good but gets the job done.
It seems like alot of One users out there are not that keen on blinkeed, and would prefer to disable it, and for some if given the choice would rather have it removed it altogether. I have to say i like the look of blinkfeed, even though i do not own the One at present.
Is there anyone who actually likes blinkfeed, and finds it to be a useful feature??
Reason i have started this thread that there seems to be quite alot of negativity surrounding blinkfeed.
Would be very interested to hear what you guys think.
I plan on having blinkfeed as my central home screen, with regular android widget screens to the left or right.
When I need some quick info, I can either look @ the lock screen or blinkfeed, when I want to check my calendar or emails, or w.e. quickly I can just scroll left or right.
So - ye I am excited to try it out. If I end up being disappointed, then so be it. But I don't think I will be.
I like it, it's just a news aggregator for content your interested in.
Why would you not like it? It's brought up loads of articles I would of otherwise not of seen, I wish you could integrate things like BBC News etc for the UK but for the moment it's very good.
I don't get why loads of people are moaning, if you don't like it set a different screen as your 'home' but I happen to think it's a very useful function and find myself checking it quite a lot throughout the day to see 'whats new'.
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It seems like alot of One users out there are not that keen on blinkeed, and would prefer to disable it, and for some if given the choice would rather have it removed it altogether. I have to say i like the look of blinkfeed, even though i do not own the One at present.
Is there anyone who actually likes blinkfeed, and finds it to be a useful feature??
Reason i have started this thread that there seems to be quite alot of negativity surrounding blinkfeed.
Would be very interested to hear what you guys think.
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I dont mind it but it doesn't update facebook or twitter properly. The apps will give me status that people have posted that the blinkfeed doesnt till later on. Thats annoying.
I use friendstream widget a lot more than i have the energy to check Facebook or Twitter apps so i expect to like blinkfeed
i just hope it includes (@connect) notifications for twitter
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I plan on having blinkfeed as my central home screen, with regular android widget screens to the left or right.
When I need some quick info, I can either look @ the lock screen or blinkfeed, when I want to check my calendar or emails, or w.e. quickly I can just scroll left or right.
So - ye I am excited to try it out. If I end up being disappointed, then so be it. But I don't think I will be.
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You will have to scroll right, because the Blinkfeed screen can't be moved. It is the first screen and that's it, any other screens you have come after it.
Definitely needs more feeds from BBC News / Sport etc. And you'd think it could tell the difference between football (soccer) and football (American)...
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i always had both a 4x4 friend stream widget and a 4x4 reader widget on my phone, so im really looking forward to using blinkfeed.
it definitely needs more options from what I've heard though, cant believe bbc isnt in it!
I think that as soon as more feeds and options become available to view, it will be more popular. At the moment though its just a drain on the battery imo xD
Have to say I love blink feed so much that I have hardly used Flipboard since Friday.....it's a brilliant feature and as long as you set it up properly can be invaluable like today, didn't know Gears of War reviews were out till I saw that in the feed......normally I would have to get that info from a deeper source/app......I find it a brilliant and genuine innovative tool......
AW: Who actually likes blinkfeed?
I like it
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Apple iOS reserves a whole home page just for a search bar and I see no one complaining or even talking about it but when HTC does something better with the same home page people start moaning about it. You don't have to use it and if you even don't want to see it, it's Android, just install different launcher. OMG people are just so weird.
I like it a lot. In fact it's one of the features I like the most.
I don't get why there's so much dislike on it, I think it looks great. I use Reader a lot (probably the most) and would love a fancy, good-looking way to get my feeds.
I agree though that the user should have the option to disable it. Don't like when things are forced upon.
Yeah I'm in the same boat as almost everybody else on this thread. I like BlinkFeed and I've stopped using other similar services (i.e. Flipboard, Pulse, ...) almost completely.
People don't like change I guess. It's amazing how they form an opinion before even spending 2 seconds with the product. If it were up to consumers, we'd still be using rotary phones...
I'm looking forward to it. I just hope it's customizable enough and has enough sources I'm interested in. They say they'll be opening it up to a lot more content so that sounds like I won't be disappointed.
I dont even use it lol.
I like it, i use it as my main screen.
I don't dislike it, but i don't really use it, i would like to get used to it, but i would like it as the middle screen of my homescreens, so until that is changed/fixed i will continue with Nova Launcher for now.
I just set the second 'home' screen to become my default home screen so whenever I start to use it more all I have to do is sweep to the left.
This is my second "Try" at the android world. I tried out that HTC one X+ last year and had nothing but problems and switched to an Iphone 5.
I am having an issue receiving texts from iphone users (working on that now). Other than that i'm pretty happy with the phone. Speaker quality is a little worse however I expected that. Audio quality while playing through play music was better than iphone IMO (big suprise there).
The otterbox seems well built, however the one for the Iphone 5 is a nicer product, any recommendations for a similar case? I'm a big fisherman and clumsy guy so who knows what will happen.
I still have the crappy camera update (ATT) so I will post some side by side pics there. Any tips on apps other than the normal fb/reddit?
Thanks!
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This is my second "Try" at the android world. I tried out that HTC one X+ last year and had nothing but problems and switched to an Iphone 5.
I am having an issue receiving texts from iphone users (working on that now). Other than that i'm pretty happy with the phone. Speaker quality is a little worse however I expected that. Audio quality while playing through play music was better than iphone IMO (big suprise there).
The otterbox seems well built, however the one for the Iphone 5 is a nicer product, any recommendations for a similar case? I'm a big fisherman and clumsy guy so who knows what will happen.
I still have the crappy camera update (ATT) so I will post some side by side pics there. Any tips on apps other than the normal fb/reddit?
Thanks!
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Your receiving texts from iPhone users is probably them being sent to your iMessage account by default... but seems like you might already be aware of this.
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Your receiving texts from iPhone users is probably them being sent to your iMessage account by default... but seems like you might already be aware of this.
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Yeah I should be good now!!
Holy crap swype rocks
A friend of mine cannot text me from his Iphone, however another friend can. It may be going through my e-mail still. Any tips?
Give it time for the cases to come out. Welcome to android. I'm using qmadix case which is a pretty good build but it doesn't have the rugged otter box protection. Also, if you take the time to learn about everything your new phone can do over the iphone you don't ever switch back. Not that iphones aren't amazing because their product is great but if you like making your phone the way you like it, android is the way to go. Most of the apps are pretty similar unless you root your phone and start tweaking it. Maybe someone else knows more android only type apps.
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Give it time for the cases to come out. Welcome to android. I'm using qmadix case which is a pretty good build but it doesn't have the rugged otter box protection. Also, if you take the time to learn about everything your new phone can do over the iphone you don't ever switch back. Not that iphones aren't amazing because their product is great but if you like making your phone the way you like it, android is the way to go. Most of the apps are pretty similar unless you root your phone and start tweaking it. Maybe someone else knows more android only type apps.
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Familiar with root and such with my n7 which really turned me onto the android world. The screen is a little bigger than the iphone, however the nexus 5 may be worth the wait.
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Yeah I should be good now!!
Holy crap swype rocks
A friend of mine cannot text me from his Iphone, however another friend can. It may be going through my e-mail still. Any tips?
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I just read an article about this but I can't remember where. Was an apple issue with phone numbers still being associated with imessage
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Turn on Imessge
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Get an iPhone. Turn on imessage. Make sure you give it enough time to fully activate. Send an imessage to said friend
Turn off imessage send text message from iPhone to said friend
Works ?
Go back to moto x. Should be good
Had the same issue with the same phones.
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1eli said:
Turn on Imessge
Edit; sorry pressed enter too fast on the app
Get an iPhone. Turn on imessage. Make sure you give it enough time to fully activate. Send an imessage to said friend
Turn off imessage send text message from iPhone to said friend
Works ?
Go back to moto x. Should be good
Had the same issue with the same phones.
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came here to say this. When my gf's mom switched she had the same issues and Apple didn't even want to help her. She kept telling them her msgs won't come through because they are going to imsg and now she has a galaxy. Apple basically told her it's an android phone and blew her off.
When my gf updated I turned imsg off before had and she hasn't had a single issue. May be a PITA but either get apple customer service to turn that feature off in your acct or get an iOS device on wifi and enable/disable it.
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Swype is the main reason I switched from an iphone 5 back to android lol. That, and Moto X is a beautiful piece of hardware.
I type like a handicap without swype. It's the original way I learned how to type on a smartphone lol. I can also swype a lot faster with one hand then most people type with two.
I don't like Android at all, but being able to type fast is more important to me for the time being.
Android itself is a flawed OS. If it wasn't for XDA I would have never owned an Android device. A lot of the developers on here create tweaks, ROM's, hacks that enhance the device in simple intuitive ways, so much that it puts Google to shame (yea I said it). I mean how in the bloody hell has volume button longpress to change track NOT been implemented in all official ROM's yet? It's so intuitive, easy to implement, test and apply. They built a trillion dollar empire selling the only mobile operating system that still lags in 2013 on EPIC hardware - mind you. I'm sure 99% of people on XDA will disagree with me because MOST people don't notice these things. But for me it drives me absolutely bananas when any 6-$700 Android device in 2013 has less GUI fluidity (in both OS and third party apps) then my first generation dual core Athlon64 PC with 1GB single channel ddr1 memory. I built that system in 2005. Comparing any Android device to any WP7.5, WP8 or ios4+ device in terms of transition animation fluidity and vertical scrolling fluidity is downright embarrassing.
I suppose that's what happens when you build an empire on top of a a landfill :laugh:
Given, the Moto X is definitely the best Android device released to date IMHO.
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Swype is the main reason I switched from an iphone 5 back to android lol. That, and Moto X is a beautiful piece of hardware.
I type like a handicap without swype. It's the original way I learned how to type on a smartphone lol. I can also swype a lot faster with one hand then most people type with two.
I don't like Android at all, but being able to type fast is more important to me for the time being.
Android itself is a flawed OS. If it wasn't for XDA I would have never owned an Android device. A lot of the developers on here create tweaks, ROM's, hacks that enhance the device in simple intuitive ways, so much that it puts Google to shame (yea I said it). I mean how in the bloody hell has volume button longpress to change track NOT been implemented in all official ROM's yet? It's so intuitive, easy to implement, test and apply. They built a trillion dollar empire selling the only mobile operating system that still lags in 2013 on EPIC hardware - mind you. I'm sure 99% of people on XDA will disagree with me because MOST people don't notice these things. But for me it drives me absolutely bananas when any 6-$700 Android device in 2013 has less GUI fluidity (in both OS and third party apps) then my first generation dual core Athlon64 PC with 1GB single channel ddr1 memory. I build that system in 2005. Comparing any WP7.5, WP8 or ios device to android in terms of transition animation fluidity and vertical scrolling fluidity is downright embarrassing.
I suppose that's what happens when you build an empire on top of a a landfill :laugh:
Given, the Moto X is definitely the best Android device released to date IMHO.
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apple builds one os for one phone with one set of hardware for a pretty similar customer base generally. google builds one OS to send to 100s of phone companies for thousands of phones with millions of different piece of hardware. Those phone companies then implement their own layers of software over it. The way the process is just makes it more difficult. While I agree on some points with you, I think they do a pretty good job considering what they are up against. If google makes an os with all of the tweaks gismos and gadgets then trys to send it to the phone companeis and deal with making what they want to do work with what google's OS does, there would probably be way more issues than we currently have.
edit: I made many generalizations so feel free not to pick and choose little tid bits of info to say how I'm wrong because it was more of just a general synopsis as opposed to an exact layout of how things are.
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apple builds one os for one phone with one set of hardware for a pretty similar customer base generally. google builds one OS to send to 100s of phone companies for thousands of phones with millions of different piece of hardware. Those phone companies then implement their own layers of software over it. The way the process is just makes it more difficult. While I agree on some points with you, I think they do a pretty good job considering what they are up against. If google makes an os with all of the tweaks gismos and gadgets then trys to send it to the phone companeis and deal with making what they want to do work with what google's OS does, there would probably be way more issues than we currently have.
edit: I made many generalizations so feel free not to pick and choose little tid bits of info to say how I'm wrong because it was more of just a general synopsis as opposed to an exact layout of how things are.
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I agree.
I'm not trying to be a **** but like... that explanation, that issue, that situation won't make my phone any faster. I understand there are reasons for this problem. But the problem is not fixed.
Come to think of it look at Windows Phones man. WP7.5 and 8 are pretty much the most fluid operating systems I've ever tried, regardless of device. You can find low, mid and high end WP devices. And they are all fluid, responsive and don't drop frames or stutter when scrolling vertically. Not always for the super low end models but you get my point. And I've tried the low end ones in the store as well. If there's one thing MS got right in the smartphone world, it's definitely the fluidity. I'm sorry but if MS can do it, Google could do it as well. But let's face it, you know as well as I do that companies won't change unless people stop buying. And most people don't seem to mind the lack of fluidity and if they do they are using iphones.
And another issue is the lack of...quality play store apps - even the popular ones with 10m+ downloads. Because that dev environment is not as restricted as ios, you see a lot of popular apps like the NOTORIOUS Facebook that takes us back to our windows 95 days where smooth scrolling was a rare phenomenon. In fact I can most likely count on one hand, the amount of times in a day that I have scrolled vertically in FB app without any lag/frame drop/stuttering. People want to say that this is not Google's fault. How is it not their fault if they ALLOWED these poorly done ios ports to make it on the Google Play Store by not posing that many restrictions.
You're absolutely right about the apps. Is really bad. There are some gorgeous android apps that conform to android design guidelines, but most of the main, most popular apps are nothing but iOS ports and look and run like sh*t on android.
As far as fluidity goes, I'm just not seeing it. I have zero lag on the moto x. I didn't have any lag on my nexus 4 either. If you're talking about scrolling in the browser, try dolphin or some other browser.
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You're absolutely right about the apps. Is really bad. There are some gorgeous android apps that conform to android design guidelines, but most of the main, most popular apps are nothing but iOS ports and look and run like sh*t on android.
As far as fluidity goes, I'm just not seeing it. I have zero lag on the moto x. I didn't have any lag on my nexus 4 either. If you're talking about scrolling in the browser, try dolphin or some other browser.
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Yes the over all UI is fast. Google did a really good job in that but my concern is about the apps that i use on day to day basis like facebook and twitter. May be coming from an iphone 5 caused this issue as everything on it was buttery smooth not the same in the case of android. There is a third party app for twitter like echofon which is super smooth as in ios but official apps still suck. I hope this would change in coming days. Facebook in browser is smooth and app sucks with dropped framerate and lag.
I have some specific examples:
open dialer, stutters once halfway through the transition animation, regardless if it was running in the background or not
open email, stutters once near the end of the transition animation. opened email again, got a graphical glitch where it bypassed the transition animation completely
scrolling in gmail stutters sometime depending on scroll speed. mid to high speed scrolling stutters. only drops one frame it seems but I can notice it
the first time you start Settings, it skips a frame in the transition animation, after that it's smooth
in google drive if you click on an item and click back, it bypasses all transition and loading animation and roughly reverts to the previous screen
scrolling in sms app drops frames at certain points in scrolling. not as much as other apps, but it definitely does it
scrolling through my alarms slow to mid speed results in back to back stutters until the scrolling stops.
maps stutters when you press locate button while it speeds to your current location. also stutters during transition animation on first open. The ios app google maps is FLUID and butter smooth
gmail widget froze for 1 second while scrolling
Play store stutters consistently while scrolling.
The number of apps that stutter/lag on my iphone 5 (100+ apps) = 0 (zero)
I can't be the only one that notices these things.
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Yes the over all UI is fast. Google did a really good job in that but my concern is about the apps that i use on day to day basis like facebook and twitter. May be coming from an iphone 5 caused this issue as everything on it was buttery smooth not the same in the case of android. There is a third party app for twitter like echofon which is super smooth as in ios but official apps still suck. I hope this would change in coming days. Facebook in browser is smooth and app sucks with dropped framerate and lag.
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I don't do Facebook anymore, but when I did, I used friendcaster... It was very very smooth and had more features.
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scorpion667 said:
I have some specific examples:
open dialer, stutters once halfway through the transition animation, regardless if it was running in the background or not
open email, stutters once near the end of the transition animation. opened email again, got a graphical glitch where it bypassed the transition animation completely
scrolling in gmail stutters sometime depending on scroll speed. mid to high speed scrolling stutters. only drops one frame it seems but I can notice it
the first time you start Settings, it skips a frame in the transition animation, after that it's smooth
in google drive if you click on an item and click back, it bypasses all transition and loading animation and roughly reverts to the previous screen
scrolling in sms app drops frames at certain points in scrolling. not as much as other apps, but it definitely does it
scrolling through my alarms slow to mid speed results in back to back stutters until the scrolling stops.
maps stutters when you press locate button while it speeds to your current location. also stutters during transition animation on first open. The ios app google maps is FLUID and butter smooth
gmail widget froze for 1 second while scrolling
Play store stutters consistently while scrolling.
The number of apps that stutter/lag on my iphone 5 (100+ apps) = 0 (zero)
I can't be the only one that notices these things.
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I'm not kidding when I say I really don't notice but that is probably just because I don't care that much. Scrolling animation I do care about, but I just don't really notice that bad of scrolling animation for much. I mean I hate facebook but I don't use that. And chrome just launched recently so I'm actually pretty impressed with its fluidity at this stage in the development.
But for all that stuff I still think it goes back to my original post. I really don't know how many phones are running windows operating system but I don't feel like it is a lot. They also don't get android apps do they? aren't they getting windows base apps so they don't have to deal with all the issues that come with letting people create apps.
To the issue of google not moderating their app's in google play the way apple does. Apple has one or 5 phones with standard hardware. You will see apps that run perfectly on one android phone but not another. I don't believe google would be able to set criteria that would make all android apps work perfectly on all thousand of devices with thousands of different softwares on them. I'm not saying android are better, as much as I'm saying apple has it so easy. Google can't even control all the software phone companies overlay on their android OS or what hardware they use.
Finally, Ill take the bad with good. I prefer an open app market where someone can create something like better battery stats just because they felt like it and not have to jump through a million hoops. Turns out i has become extremely useful. And if the app sucks let it die. Don't use it. Capitalism lol.
But clearly no one can argue that apple products are not smoother and won't always be smoother than android products. Arguments can be made for nexus and other phones that are built purely for the android OS, but the apps being developed are being developed to work on all android products not just stock android Nexus's so they still will get lag from certain things.
Windows phone is different, closer to iOS. Remember Microsoft forces any manufacturer who makes a wp device to use a specific CPU, specific ram, etc. The OS is written for one device configuration, and just the screen tech can change. Same as Apple basically. I remember when all windows phones were forced to use the Qualcomm 1ghz snapdragon which let's the OS be perfectly optimized to the hardware.
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I have some specific examples:
open dialer, stutters once halfway through the transition animation, regardless if it was running in the background or not
open email, stutters once near the end of the transition animation. opened email again, got a graphical glitch where it bypassed the transition animation completely
scrolling in gmail stutters sometime depending on scroll speed. mid to high speed scrolling stutters. only drops one frame it seems but I can notice it
the first time you start Settings, it skips a frame in the transition animation, after that it's smooth
in google drive if you click on an item and click back, it bypasses all transition and loading animation and roughly reverts to the previous screen
scrolling in sms app drops frames at certain points in scrolling. not as much as other apps, but it definitely does it
scrolling through my alarms slow to mid speed results in back to back stutters until the scrolling stops.
maps stutters when you press locate button while it speeds to your current location. also stutters during transition animation on first open. The ios app google maps is FLUID and butter smooth
gmail widget froze for 1 second while scrolling
Play store stutters consistently while scrolling.
The number of apps that stutter/lag on my iphone 5 (100+ apps) = 0 (zero)
I can't be the only one that notices these things.
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You're not the only one, most Android users are in denial or have never given the iPhone a chance, I was one of those Android users until I picked up an iPhone 4 a few years ago to resell and decided to give it a try before getting rid of it. I have since had the 4S and the 5. All throughout, I tried going back to android with the GS2, GS3, GS4, Nexus 4, HTC One X, HTC One and now the Moto X. The full Samsung lineup was just terrible and laggy, couldn't stand using either of them for over a week, the HTC one was pretty smooth and the UI was bearable but the phone was physically awkward, the Nexus 4 lasted a day but only because it didn't have LTE, the Moto X is the best Android experience I have had all around, only complaints are attention to detail from Motorola like the wifi icon gap and the terrible AT&T logo (all can be fixed on a rooted device). I see myself hanging on to this phone for a while (I hope). Might just get a 5S for a second device though.
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You're not the only one, most Android users are in denial or have never given the iPhone a chance, I was one of those Android users until I picked up an iPhone 4 a few years ago to resell and decided to give it a try before getting rid of it. I have since had the 4S and the 5. All throughout, I tried going back to android with the GS2, GS3, GS4, Nexus 4, HTC One X, HTC One and now the Moto X. The full Samsung lineup was just terrible and laggy, couldn't stand using either of them for over a week, the HTC one was pretty smooth and the UI was bearable but the phone was physically awkward, the Nexus 4 lasted a day but only because it didn't have LTE, the Moto X is the best Android experience I have had all around, only complaints are attention to detail from Motorola like the wifi icon gap and the terrible AT&T logo (all can be fixed on a rooted device). I see myself hanging on to this phone for a while (I hope). Might just get a 5S for a second device though.
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I actually find the inverse to be true. The vast majority of android users I know all started out on iOS, myself included... However few iOS users I know have ever tried Android... Perhaps for a day or two then reverted.
The plane fact is that Google/Android does not control the manufacturers desire for hardware, wherein, both wp and apple have a strict doctrine for hardware specs... Even with Windows phones, many have very similar specs or types of hardware technologies that wp7 are specifically designed for. Look what happened when wp7 launched... Nothing was supported, app wise, from previous os versions... This speaks to how much wp is compartmentalized, even though it appears to have a variety of device choices.
This is the trade off that we Android users accept, a truly vast array of device types, having virtually any pick and combination of hardware we want, with an endless supply of new devices, but this leads to fragmentation... Jb really targeted this issue and has done amazing things to close the software compatibility issues between devices from both ends of the spectrum... And I believe it will only get better with each new android version.
Personally, I'll take a little stutter hear and there ( haven't seen a touch of it with the moto x btw) than be told what hardware and what software I can have...
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