wifi keyboard and mouse? - Nook Color Accessories

Has anyone used one of these and do you think it would work with the NC? Not having bluetooth (at least for the moment, maybe it can be enabled) is a downer for a tablet but a google search showed that they are on the market. Im wondering if that could be used as an input solution.

bump, or support for usb mouse/keyb

busyychild said:
bump, or support for usb mouse/keyb
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I think lots of folks are waiting for CM6 which might unlock the NC bluetooth stack offering mouse, wiimote, and keyboard goodness with it.

norkoastal said:
I think lots of folks are waiting for CM6 which might unlock the NC bluetooth stack offering mouse, wiimote, and keyboard goodness with it.
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I'm hoping. CM6 enabled Bluetooth keyboard and wiimote on my phone, which didn't work on the stock system.

norkoastal said:
I think lots of folks are waiting for CM6 which might unlock the NC bluetooth stack offering mouse, wiimote, and keyboard goodness with it.
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Did this hope ever get realized? From what I can tell cm6 came out Dec.6.
I'm trying to get either a bt or usb keyboard working on Nook color

good idea: do a teardown
Sorry, didn't do enough reading. Part of the cm6 references are requests to tear down the device to see its bt and usb otg capabilities:
From the donation thread:
rboatright said:
I STRONGLY SUPPORT ka6sox's need to tear a nook color down for analysis to the remove chips from the board level (this is called "salting" a board... I have no idea why, perhaps because like putting salt on a slug, it's dead when you're done.)
Here are some things we need hardware teardown to identify....
Bluetooth is enabled or disabled by putting +V on a pin on the UNDERSIDE of the wl1230 chip. No way to tell if BT is enabled without a teardown.
USB chip on the board is capable of USB master and USB otg mode, however the correct strapping of the voltage regulators supporting that chip can not be identified from above.
The extra pins on the USB connector the NC uses dissappear into the inside of the board, there is no way to ensure that they are MERELY power connectors.
FM Radio is enabled with +v on a pin just as the BT is. Again requiring a teardown.
There may be jtag pads available near the CPU, this would allow devs to have serial access to the CPU during boot to develop custom kernels, at the present time, there is NO CONSOLE during boot. This would help. Again, no way to identify them without teardown.
it is possible that an fm antenna can be easily attached to a test pad. But we won't know until we know if the fm output is DIRECTED to a test pad.
there's more, but that alone justifies ripping a nook color to bits.
Eugenekay has agreed to buy a board for this purpose if the community agrees it's a good use of funds, and ka6sox is uniquly qualified to do it, since he's done it before...
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So the consensus seams to be that it isn't feasible for now, but might be in the future?
It would certainly be nice if it were, I'm planning on starting some college courses this spring and would love to be able to do quick note taking without having to lug around(not to mention the extra cost) another netbook or something similar. I'm just not fast enough with the software keyboard to keep up with a lecture.
PS- for those of us who are new here, what is CM6?

It is custom ROM that could be flashed on your nook in the future.
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/

Back to the heart of the matter
cabbieBot said:
Has anyone used one of these and do you think it would work with the NC? Not having bluetooth (at least for the moment, maybe it can be enabled) is a downer for a tablet but a google search showed that they are on the market. Im wondering if that could be used as an input solution.
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busyychild said:
bump, or support for usb mouse/keyb
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?Has anyone achieved any of the two work arounds? A wifi/USB keyboard solution?
norkoastal said:
I think lots of folks are waiting for CM6 which might unlock the NC bluetooth stack offering mouse, wiimote, and keyboard goodness with it.
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Please don't mention the Bluetooth possibilities. Until they salt that board, I just can't handle the stress of thinking about it. Just typing this part of the post makes my fingers tremble. I know, I probably need help.

vizographic said:
?Has anyone achieved any of the two work arounds? A wifi/USB keyboard solution?
Please don't mention the Bluetooth possibilities. Until they salt that board, I just can't handle the stress of thinking about it. Just typing this part of the post makes my fingers tremble. I know, I probably need help.
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Bluetooth? I hope you don't pass out from the excitement after reading the link below,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897934

Now that Bluetooth is working (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989637), does anyone have any suggestions for good Bluetooth keyboards?

Nooter said:
Now that Bluetooth is working (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989637), does anyone have any suggestions for good Bluetooth keyboards?
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Dealextreme.com has a foldable bluetooth keybard that folds into a package about the size of two iPhones 4s stacked. They're asking a little less than$ 70.

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Optical Trakcball on G1?

Is this possible? To use an optical trackpad on the G1 like what the Desire and the incredible have ?
Anything is possible is you have superglue.... And while your at it add the 4 inch SuperAMOLED from the Samsung Galaxy and a 1.5 Ghz scorpion processor...
Kidding aside, no its not possible. The is no room on the G1 to add one, then after that you would need drivers and software that can use it....
mejorguille said:
Anything is possible is you have superglue.... And while your at it add the 4 inch SuperAMOLED from the Samsung Galaxy and a 1.5 Ghz scorpion processor...
Kidding aside, no its not possible. The is no room on the G1 to add one, then after that you would need drivers and software that can use it....
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lol ok...yea I am not familiar with the optical track ball, I know the regular trackball basically kind of just plugs in...I understand it may need drivers and such, but if it plugged into the same ports, maybe it would not need any drivers and software and it could just be recognized as a regular trackball ? ...
anyways -thanks for the response...
wouldn't it be nice if we could do this though ?? haha
erebusting said:
lol ok...yea I am not familiar with the optical track ball, I know the regular trackball basically kind of just plugs in...I understand it may need drivers and such, but if it plugged into the same ports, maybe it would not need any drivers and software and it could just be recognized as a regular trackball ? ...
anyways -thanks for the response...
wouldn't it be nice if we could do this though ?? haha
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I'm pretty sure that drivers are specific to a single thing and wont work with both a trackball and a trackpad. But I love the trackball on my G1=p It's the best pacman experience you will ever have=p
Hi!
Basically this mod would be possible to implement, but i think it's not worth it.
Depends on the optical unit how things would work out in detail.
Example:
http://blogs.blackberry.com/2009/12/inside-the-trackpad-a-blackberry-science-lesson/
You'll need at least a technical datasheet of the unit you'd like to connect to.
Trackball unit on G1 is based upon 4 magnetic field sensors toggling some GPIO. So the "driver" is basically some lines of code.
Maybe there are also optical trackpads with a similar output coding.
Then whole stuff would be mostly a mechanical challenge...
... mejorguille is right at this point, the G1 is no PC so you'll need at least some super glue and a lot of technical skills.
If there's a more complex protocol behind the coding of the coordinates, then you'll have to write some tricky driver code additionally.
Anyway, go for it if you like.....
Regards,
scholbert

[Think Tank] Game Emulator Controller solutions Wii or otherwise

OK, granted I don't know much but maybe this thread can group peoples Ideas on a suitable controller for the captivate.
I know the WII Controller app currently doesn't work for us, but we do see that the controller hardware does offer the opportunity to pair with the phone over bluetooth.
I guess the first step is to successfully get the pairing, is this possible somehow? would a successful password hack make it happen?
I guess second would be to have it recognize buttons in a keyboard fashion to work with most emulators.
I know the developer of the existing wii controller app has said we probably get his app working, and I don't blame hime for not trying to get every phone to work, but i feel there is enough talent here to maybe get our own solution?
Or, if anyone actually has a better solution to the hope for an external controller, please help us all!
Wait the WII app does not work for us? I was about to hit BB :-(
Unfortunately the test app didn't work for me, and the developer has the captivate on the list of phones that currently are not compatible and most likely will not be compatible in the future with his software.
Ouch :-(
Not good news but better than me buying the wiimote for nothing.
I am assume is a matter of time before someone comes up with one anyway
Has anybody tried pairing a Playstation 3 controller with the phone? PS3 + HDMI via USB cable would make a great portable gaming console for when out of town at family, etc.
I'd definately contribute cash towards getting a working driver if needed.
EDIT: Also, MSI has a bluetooth gamepad that works with the phone. Google MSI BGP100. My biggest complaint/concern is that the controller doesn't seem to be designed to accommodate a phone in landscape mode, so that's a bit of a drawn back for playing games on the go (as opposed to hooking it up to a TV or monitor, where it wouldn't be an issue).
I actually emailed the dev about future compatibility for our phones, he said it's samsungs proprietary bluetooth drivers that are incompatible with the wiimote.
If we were to flash a vanilla android rom or something, it would work just fine.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
EDIT:
"Hello,
thank you for your question.
You're right about the frequency of these kind of requests. Newer Samsung phones unfortunately use proprietary bluetooth stacks (developed by Samsung) instead of the default that is in Android, named Bluez. That proprietary stack doesn't support the type of connection that wiimotes need to connect.
So, the only way currently for you to have this app working is if you get rid of that bluetooth stack. If you want to, you can root and flash your phone with a custom ROM. "Vanilla" ROMs have had success with other non-compatible phones in the past. Vanilla just means a type of ROM that is made from code that originates directly from Google, not from Samsung. One known creator of good quality vanilla ROM is cyanogen from xda-developers.com, but I don't believe his ROMs can run on the Galaxy (yet).
A friendly word of caution: rooting and flashing probably voids your phone's warranty and you also loose all the data (like contacts, app settings, etc) so MAKE BACKUPS before doing anything.
Best regards,
Piki"
This is awesome news. I am rooted and ready, and now patiently awaiting CM6 to get everything up and running! Thanks for the posts!
Amen brother
wakeupkeo said:
This is awesome news. I am rooted and ready, and now patiently awaiting CM6 to get everything up and running! Thanks for the posts!
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Ooohhh you guys see this?
Making a Nintendo SNES controller into bluetooth; using an MSI BGP100
If the MSI BGP100 works for us then I am going to do this!
wakeupkeo said:
This is awesome news. I am rooted and ready, and now patiently awaiting CM6 to get everything up and running! Thanks for the posts!
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Please dont hold your breath, you'll be bluer than a smurf. There is nobody working on a CM6 version for the Captivate. Only the Vibrant.
wakeupkeo said:
Ooohhh you guys see this?
Making a Nintendo SNES controller into bluetooth; using an MSI BGP100
If the MSI BGP100 works for us then I am going to do this!
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So has anybody confirmed if this works or not with the Captivate?
I'm thinking since the wiimote wont work via bluetooth, no bluetooth gamepad will work.
Has anyone ever tried interfacing a standard controller through the microUSB port? Or custom building such a device?
derek4484 said:
So has anybody confirmed if this works or not with the Captivate?
I'm thinking since the wiimote wont work via bluetooth, no bluetooth gamepad will work.
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It depends on the drivers otherwise no bluetooth device will be able to connect...at least that is how I see it.
no that the psx emulator is out and resedent evil 3 works perfectly, i would like to see some kind of gamepad, sucks theres no way to use a controller.. , is there even anyone working on getting this done???
Just wondering if any updates have been made on any controllers working on the captivate? Still no WiiMote connectivity, havent tried to connect anything through the micro usb. If anybody knows of a way to control emulators for the Samsung Captivate, Let us all know!
Sublim3_Tilt said:
Just wondering if any updates have been made on any controllers working on the captivate? Still no WiiMote connectivity, havent tried to connect anything through the micro usb. If anybody knows of a way to control emulators for the Samsung Captivate, Let us all know!
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derek4484 said:
Please dont hold your breath, you'll be bluer than a smurf. There is nobody working on a CM6 version for the Captivate. Only the Vibrant.
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vibrant roms work with a few known and easily fixed issues with button logic. there may be other issues i cant remember but it is doable. as long as the vibrant is getting attention it should be enough.
Actually, hold your breath...
The Cog Rom has been using the original bluez stack protocol needed, and I am hopeful of compatibility soon...
Nothing seems to work still yet for the wii controller apps yet, but I haven't tried again in the last couple versions.
At least it seems we are headed in the right direction!
wakeupkeo said:
Actually, hold your breath...
The Cog Rom has been using the original bluez stack protocol needed, and I am hopeful of compatibility soon...
Nothing seems to work still yet for the wii controller apps yet, but I haven't tried again in the last couple versions.
At least it seems we are headed in the right direction!
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Wouldn't be too sure about that since he removed bluez after version 5 saying it caused more trouble than it was worth. It would seem the only hope we have now is for gdanko's aosp froyo. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=815420&page=18
Indeed it seems aosp is a gamer's only hope for our beloved captivate... we need the non samsung proprietary Bluetooth stack.
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Nook Color Teardown

There's a gallery of NC teardown pics at zdnet. XDA isn't letting me post the link because i'm not verified, so maybe someone else can.
This was inevitable, but I hadn't been able to find it until today. I thought others might be interested as well.
http://www.zdnet.com/photos/nookcolor-teardown/487636 here it is
From the pictures I see a good possibility for a bigger battery, or even adding a second one. Lots of room, it won't be pretty but something could be fashioned to fit.
lionclaw said:
There's a gallery of NC teardown pics at zdnet. XDA isn't letting me post the link because i'm not verified, so maybe someone else can.
This was inevitable, but I hadn't been able to find it until today. I thought others might be interested as well.
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http://www.zdnet.com/photos/nookcolor-teardown/487636?tag=content;get-photo-roto
Looks good.
Nice to see some more details about the NC coming out, I have yet to find a *detailed* list of the real hardware specs though.. most of the "tech specs" list mention supported ebook formats...
I ordered one of these the other day via a relative in the US and hopefully will be getting it next week some time.
I will miss the haptic feedback though so am wondering if it will be possible to replace the useless mono speaker with a motor from a mobile phone or something..
/mrintegrity
Cool idea. But it'll only work for typing and maybe apps that have clicking sounds. Still, it should work just fine. Of course you'd have to attach it to the inside real tight. Duck tape won't do
devis said:
Cool idea. But it'll only work for typing and maybe apps that have clicking sounds. Still, it should work just fine. Of course you'd have to attach it to the inside real tight. Duck tape won't do
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Thanks, my mind is kinda running over with ideas actually
From the teardown pics the internals seem pretty basic and there is hopefully a good bit of space. I would love to know if there are any available usb / jtag / etc headers available though.
If not I was thinking also about the possibility of modifying the usb connector with a switch and a usb 3g dongle inside, I just don't know if there is a 3g dongle that is not based on mini pcie though.
As for the haptic feedback I guess you can just assign a "sound" to everything that should produce feedback.
What about the accellerometer, is that sufficient to control cars in steering wheel based games?
/mrintegrity
To answer your very last question yes.. I have Asphalt5 running and won my first race.
mrintegrity said:
Thanks, my mind is kinda running over with ideas actually
From the teardown pics the internals seem pretty basic and there is hopefully a good bit of space. I would love to know if there are any available usb / jtag / etc headers available though.
If not I was thinking also about the possibility of modifying the usb connector with a switch and a usb 3g dongle inside, I just don't know if there is a 3g dongle that is not based on mini pcie though.
As for the haptic feedback I guess you can just assign a "sound" to everything that should produce feedback.
What about the accellerometer, is that sufficient to control cars in steering wheel based games?
/mrintegrity
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The usb dongle would have to support android. To my knowledge there isn't one... but physically it is possible to stick it inside. They aren't that big, just look big cause of the plastic casing.
I think realistically, for now a bigger battery should be the first thing attempted, given the OS limitations we'd face with other mods. It would also allow us to run the NC at 800 mhz at all times via setcpu.
Sent from my NookColor
devis said:
... for now a bigger battery should be the first thing attempted, given the OS limitations we'd face with other mods. It would also allow us to run the NC at 800 mhz at all times via setcpu.
Sent from my NookColor
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Well, I haven't even got mine yet. I can see on the tracking page that it's "delivered" but my dad is away for the weekend so it will be monday before he even sends it to me! I am in Sweden so it will probably take another 5 days after that
/mr
norkoastal said:
To answer your very last question yes.. I have Asphalt5 running and won my first race.
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What version of Asphalt are you running? Does it stretch correctly or is it stupid and square in the middle?
isolated_epidemic said:
What version of Asphalt are you running? Does it stretch correctly or is it stupid and square in the middle?
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Hd for the Tab.. You'll need to install spare parts to toggle off compatibility mode to get fullscreen.
norkoastal said:
Hd for the Tab.. You'll need to install spare parts to toggle off compatibility mode to get fullscreen.
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Did you download from the Gameloft site? I couldnt get the version from my G2 to get past the license check, and the only other version I've tried is a pirated 3.13 version. I would be glad to pay for it if I knew it would work.
Tried disabling the compatibility mode and the top of the screen is blank and I have to press high to get selections to work.
EDIT: I figured it out. You have to load a version made for Samsung Galaxy Tab or Galaxy S. I downloaded a version from Gameloft.com with Galaxy Tab selected as my phone and the game displays fine. If you purchase from their website you have to do some trickery. When they text you a download link, just type the link address from your phone in a browser on the Nook Color and the download should start and install the game.
isolated_epidemic - I'm having the same issue as you with Asphalt, as well as some of the other GameLoft games. Does anyone have a solution for this?

Love rooted nook - but hate no bluetooth & mic!

I'm just venting, but I've spent more than my fair share of time screwing with this thing, and in spite of having to play with cooked software, it's great - with two exceptions! This thing would be perfect it had: gps, mic, and bluetooth!
Okay forget the gps but the Mic and Bluetooth would have rocked! Okay, just the mic....man this thing is driving me so crazy! I can't use Skype! I just wish the executives at Barnes and Noble would have been a little more considerate of my needs when they built this thing!!!
I know what you do you want for $250....simple a mic!!! I would have paid $260!!
Merry Christmas!
Heh I agree that the lack of a microphone is troublesome.
I got the nook for the sole purpose to root and tinker with.
I knew what I bought, but still the lack of a mic is the one thing that is nagging me. But to use the nook as an XBMC remote is awesome, so I take comfort in that
Sent from my NOOK Color using XDA App
Instead of venting, why don't you donate to the NC teardown fund? Once a NC has been taken apart piece by piece, we may reveal the ability to activate bluetooth.
Wonder if there's some way to write drivers to share my Android phone's mic/camera with the NC over wifi. I know there's a GPS over Bluetooth driver. Conceptually it should be possible to access devices over Wifi, just a matter of someone writing the software.
i am falling in love with nook color and would buy it right know if it had 3g (gsm) module.
Do you guys think it is possible to have 3g in next version of nook color? i found on net that the chip the nook is running on is capable of 3g module (i think its the same chip the ipad is using), so i am wondering...or if the chip is capable of 3g, i read the donation and teardown forum, will it be possible to have it on this device?
sorry if off topic.. i am new to this forums thanks
vendul said:
i am falling in love with nook color and would buy it right know if it had 3g (gsm) module.
Do you guys think it is possible to have 3g in next version of nook color? i found on net that the chip the nook is running on is capable of 3g module (i think its the same chip the ipad is using), so i am wondering...or if the chip is capable of 3g, i read the donation and teardown forum, will it be possible to have it on this device?
sorry if off topic.. i am new to this forums thanks
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There is a pretty thin line between unlocking functionality and stealing. Even if 3G could be unlocked, you'd need credentials from a carrier to use it. None of the carriers are going to allow you to register a hacked device on their network so the only way to get actual 3g would be to steal it...
Even if you happen to have a data plan from the correct company (Verizon, Id guess) you could use to login, carriers charge per device with access. Tethering is sort of a moral grey area, but I don't think this would be... it'd be stealing 3g from Verizon (or whoever).
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i see...i was more towards the option of BN making version of nook color with 3g, cause i can see what u ment with just allowing 3g.
thanks for reply, i will wait a bit maybe to see how things evolve...
Jason Foss said:
There is a pretty thin line between unlocking functionality and stealing. Even if 3G could be unlocked, you'd need credentials from a carrier to use it. None of the carriers are going to allow you to register a hacked device on their network so the only way to get actual 3g would be to steal it...
Even if you happen to have a data plan from the correct company (Verizon, Id guess) you could use to login, carriers charge per device with access. Tethering is sort of a moral grey area, but I don't think this would be... it'd be stealing 3g from Verizon (or whoever).
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wifi tether from phone ftw
Priceless feature!
focusfre4k said:
wifi tether from phone ftw
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I saw a post that Bluetooth is coming with the Android 2.2 update in January - which will allow for audio books.
Occip got BT reenabled. Check the Development section for instructions if you're running Froyo.
beerjs said:
I saw a post that Bluetooth is coming with the Android 2.2 update in January - which will allow for audio books.
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Can you provide a link to that post? So far what I've heard is that B&N have an update for 2.2 planned but denied that it was being released in January. Also, I don't recall them saying squat about BT.
beerjs said:
I saw a post that Bluetooth is coming with the Android 2.2 update in January - which will allow for audio books.
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Yeah, where did you hear this? Sounds like an echo of a rumour of a wish to me.
ColdH33t said:
Occip got BT reenabled. Check the Development section for instructions if you're running Froyo.
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Careful with the wording... since at this point even Occip would not claim full success... he has verified that it is connected to power and the CPU.
(of course logic leads us to the conclusion that bluetooth will work since the hardware hurdles have been leapt)
rhoadkill said:
Heh I agree that the lack of a microphone is troublesome.
I got the nook for the sole purpose to root and tinker with.
I knew what I bought, but still the lack of a mic is the one thing that is nagging me. But to use the nook as an XBMC remote is awesome, so I take comfort in that
Sent from my NOOK Color using XDA App
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Leo Carpi said:
I'm just venting, but I've spent more than my fair share of time screwing with this thing, and in spite of having to play with cooked software, it's great - with two exceptions! This thing would be perfect it had: gps, mic, and bluetooth!
Okay forget the gps but the Mic and Bluetooth would have rocked! Okay, just the mic....man this thing is driving me so crazy! I can't use Skype! I just wish the executives at Barnes and Noble would have been a little more considerate of my needs when they built this thing!!!
I know what you do you want for $250....simple a mic!!! I would have paid $260!!
Merry Christmas!
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you realise that the nook color was made primarily as an Ebook reader right. there is no need for a mic on an ebook reader. also the nook was made for the public not for root happy techies. if it was built for us it would come with a stock rom ffc and all other android goodness
beerjs said:
I saw a post that Bluetooth is coming with the Android 2.2 update in January - which will allow for audio books.
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Can you back that up with something better than "My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris enabling Bluetooth at B&N last night"?
Where did you hear that? Is it credible?
mrschwarz said:
Where did you hear that? Is it credible?
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The 2.2 in January came from a retracted story at various sites - it was confirmed to be wrong several times on the forum here. B&N said 2.2 next year sometime...they're still pretty vague about it.
For what it is worth (should be as good as a my brother's girlfriend's mother's cousin's friend) - it was posted on the facebook/NookInColor group from BN. It should be somewhat reliable....
greenmky said:
The 2.2 in January came from a retracted story at various sites - it was confirmed to be wrong several times on the forum here. B&N said 2.2 next year sometime...they're still pretty vague about it.
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I wouldn't count on anything for the NC. I wish, I rooted mine, but returned...
Calvin,
A couple of thoughts here:
1) The developer program where you've landed here is precisely to support the folks who are building such apps to enhance the user experience on the device
2) There are no plans to just throw open the doors on the device. Don't hold your breath for open access to the Android Market on the device...
Thanks for your interest.
Ron
Ronan Mandel
Developer Technical Services
Barnes & Noble Inc.
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From: Calvin Jung [[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 11:10 AM
To: Nook Developer - Tech
Subject: word program
Will the NC ever be able to utilize a "word" type program to write, cut, and paste. This is such a great device and for BN to not forward this device to it's potential capability would be economically stupid. You open this device up it'll blow the ipad to the back shelf.
I have a NC and have till the end of Jan. to return...for me, if there seems to be no forward movement to 2.2 or other apps. I will return mine.
Hopefully you have the same thoughts from NC lovers, BTW it is a GREAT reading device...time to take it to another level!
CJ

[Q] Bluetooth Range Reality

Hi All,
With all the amazing progress with Bluetooth in CM7, I'm left with one question: is increasing the Bluetooth range on the Nook Color a possibility using nothing but software?
I've got a Motorola S305 and A2DP stereo media is spotty at best. It has occurred to me, given my limited knowledge, that this is likely to be a hardware issue (there's been some previous discussion over the length of the antenna available on the chip) rather than something which can be solved in software.
Does anyone with more knowledge than me have a feel for whether or not a software solution to increasing Bluetooth range might be likely? If so, I'll be waiting patiently, but if not, I'm going to head out and pick up a set of headphones.
Finally, just want to say thanks to all the devs for their amazing work. The Nook Color is the best tablet on the market, but that's only because of you all.
Thank you.
Tying the antenna into the headphone jack would have made sense -- that's how many portable FM radio "walkmen" were designed.
Has the idea been floated that the reason Barnes & Noble left off the Bluetooth feature was exactly because the hardware in the end proved incapable?
The Range issue is most likely a Software issue, the Bluetooth Radio is using the same Antenna as the Wifi, so there is not a problem there. Give the devs time and they will figure it out.
Also i don't see how the Hardware would be incapable. this device is based of a referance design from TI themselves the only reason there is even Bluetooth in the device is because its so tightly integrated you would have to replaced the whole WIFI chip itself. everything in the Nook was designed to go together by TI.
The hardware is not the issue on this its software.
xdabr said:
Tying the antenna into the headphone jack would have made sense -- that's how many portable FM radio "walkmen" were designed.
Has the idea been floated that the reason Barnes & Noble left off the Bluetooth feature was exactly because the hardware in the end proved incapable?
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why exactly Barnes & Noble did not include Bluetooth is a real mystery to me. I can only assume they didn't want to deal with the headache of helping customers troubleshoot BT connectivity issues with a million different headsets keyboards and gaming controllers. Limit the ability of users to add third party hardware and you reduce your support calls. (btw howthe f%$£€k do you type a comma with the thumb keyboard!?)
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(btw howthe f%$£€k do you type a comma with the thumb keyboard!?)
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hold period.
dsf3g said:
why exactly Barnes & Noble did not include Bluetooth is a real mystery to me. I can only assume they didn't want to deal with the headache of helping customers troubleshoot BT connectivity issues with a million different headsets keyboards and gaming controllers. Limit the ability of users to add third party hardware and you reduce your support calls. (btw howthe f%$£€k do you type a comma with the thumb keyboard!?)
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Remember that B&N was designing and marketing a color E-Reader - not a tablet. The fact that the NC can perform as a pretty good tablet is a result of folks like us messing with them -- and B&N may be taking notice of the fact.
I suspect it's more likely that B&N simply spec'd wifi, and the actual Nook designers used a readily available wifi chip that just happened to also have BT (as a lot do)...
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I read somewhere during the early days of NC hacking that bluetooth is probably there because the common chip WITH bluetooth was cheaper than the special one without it.
As for boosting through software- I have no idea.
Antenna "boosting" ideas I have seen include internal soldering (not worth it to me at this point) and software changes.
I have no clue what might be possible.
But I think it should be easy to toss a headphone cable in and see if it does anything to the range.
Mine seems to have about 2 to 3 foot range.
therealguppy said:
The Range issue is most likely a Software issue, the Bluetooth Radio is using the same Antenna as the Wifi, so there is not a problem there. Give the devs time and they will figure it out.
Also i don't see how the Hardware would be incapable. this device is based of a referance design from TI themselves the only reason there is even Bluetooth in the device is because its so tightly integrated you would have to replaced the whole WIFI chip itself. everything in the Nook was designed to go together by TI.
The hardware is not the issue on this its software.
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Well that sounds good to me! I prefer to choose to believe therealguppy.
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I can get about 2 foot with the keyboard but my motorola S9-HD have to be on top of the unit for them to work. I know the developers are the best at what they do and i am fairly confident they will find a solution.
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hold period.
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OMFG, only a friggin' acne riddled hacker* who spends all day typing IP addresses into his device would set the period as default and the comma as the "hold and wait" character.
(*Just kidding, Mr. acne riddled hacker, and thanks for putting the time into developing cool stuff for Android!)
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OMFG, only a friggin' acne riddled hacker* who spends all day typing IP addresses into his device would set the period as default and the comma as the "hold and wait" character.
(*Just kidding, Mr. acne riddled hacker, and thanks for putting the time into developing cool stuff for Android!)
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If you type more commas than periods then you need to work on shortening your typical sentence structure.
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If you type more commas than periods then you need to work on shortening your typical sentence structure.
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Classic!!!
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OMFG, only a friggin' acne riddled hacker* who spends all day typing IP addresses into his device would set the period as default and the comma as the "hold and wait" character.
(*Just kidding, Mr. acne riddled hacker, and thanks for putting the time into developing cool stuff for Android!)
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If one was to be on the stock B&N rom and is to use it as primarily a book reader, the comma is rarely used.
You can always download a different keyboard, there are tons available (SwiftKey, KeyPurr, Swype, Stock 2.3 Gingerbread, etc).
Anyways, the bluetooth chip is the same as the Droid 2/Droid X, right? The bluetooth range on the X is great, so eventually this software-limitation should be gone.
See also the intriguing longer range Bluetooth PAN tweaking at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013934

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