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Am I stupid if I upgrade from Nexus One to Captivate ?

Hi,
Just wanted to get some feedback from knowledgeable peeps around
My contract is up and was wondering if its a wise decision to switch from my utterly delightful Nexus One to more powerful Samsung Captivate
I like the flexibility and freedom to play around on my Nexus One, but the Super AMOLED and Faster GPU has been calling me to Samsung Captivate.
All the 2 cents are welcome.
Cheers

it really depends on a few things:
can you survive without a trackball? if you do any remote desktop stuff, a trackball is almost essential. also some games work better with a trackball as opposed to your fat finger covering up most of the screen (including whatever you're trying to control).
do you currently not have a case on your n1? you'll def need one with the captivate (or any galaxy s phone), as they aren't built like the n1. they don't have a unibody design that resists overall damage to the phone. if you get a galaxy s device, i highly recommend getting a hard case for it.
can you live with not always having the latest and greatest developments on your device?being that the nexus is now the second google developer phone, you can almost guarantee that it'll have everything FIRST. any developing directly from google or the other XDA devs will most likely be implemented on the nexus before any other phone.
just a few things to consider. i'm sure someone will add some more...
you could also think of it this way: would you be willing to trade in your honda civic tuner (with nos, supercharger, and the works) for a mustang/camaro or equivalent?

I've actually seriously considered this (but for the Vibrant) and come to the conclusion that you will not be disappointed by either choice. One thing you could do is post a similar question in the Captivate forums but ask what people opinion of the captivate is from previous nexus one users.
On the note of the AMOLED screen and the gpu its a matter of importance? Do you play a lot of games? If so the gpu will definitely be a necessity. If you watch a lot of media the screen will be a must.
Do you mod/plan to mod your phone a lot? If so then the Nexus might still be the better choice.
Also the trackball is gone so there is no led notifications on the Galaxy S phones.
-Cheers

antoniouslj said:
it really depends on a few things:
can you survive without a trackball? if you do any remote desktop stuff, a trackball is almost essential. also some games work better with a trackball as opposed to your fat finger covering up most of the screen (including whatever you're trying to control).
do you currently not have a case on your n1? you'll def need one with the captivate (or any galaxy s phone), as they aren't built like the n1. they don't have a unibody design that resists overall damage to the phone. if you get a galaxy s device, i highly recommend getting a hard case for it.
can you live with not always having the latest and greatest developments on your device?being that the nexus is now the second google developer phone, you can almost guarantee that it'll have everything FIRST. any developing directly from google or the other XDA devs will most likely be implemented on the nexus before any other phone.
just a few things to consider. i'm sure someone will add some more...
you could also think of it this way: would you be willing to trade in your honda civic tuner (with nos, supercharger, and the works) for a mustang/camaro or equivalent?
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Well I havent had an opportunity/requirements to do any Remote Desktops so havent used trackball to its full potential.. but I love the trackball notifications.
I do have a hard case and a lovely one for my N1 [Seidio]. Yes I would ofcourse get a hard case for any phone that I buy.
Third point is really important. I am a CM source builder.. and I do that almost every 2 days from my laptop. I would hate to not be able to do that to the Captivate..
Choices Choices.. Cant pick one..

android.activate said:
Hi,
Just wanted to get some feedback from knowledgeable peeps around
My contract is up and was wondering if its a wise decision to switch from my utterly delightful Nexus One to more powerful Samsung Captivate
I like the flexibility and freedom to play around on my Nexus One, but the Super AMOLED and Faster GPU has been calling me to Samsung Captivate.
All the 2 cents are welcome.
Cheers
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Hi
I had the UK version the Galaxy s and I have to say I was very disappointed. The lag problem is a massive issue after owning the Nexus and the Touchwiz is very cartoon like but that's a matter of opinion, and if you try and use Launcher Pro it starts to slow down even more. The gps another known issue does not work and the internet is slow. The screen is fab and so is the HD video but that's it. The build is poor and as for regular updates from Samsung ? well you know there history.
I always said that I would not have a Samsung for one reason or another but this looked great, but I'm bitterly disappointed and with Handsets like this coming out, it's going to put new owners of Android off.
So I have sent mine back and got a new Nexus as my daughter had my other and she prefers it to her IPhone 3GS........Good girl
Sorry if I ranted on.......

Blueman101 said:
I've actually seriously considered this (but for the Vibrant) and come to the conclusion that you will not be disappointed by either choice. One thing you could do is post a similar question in the Captivate forums but ask what people opinion of the captivate is from previous nexus one users.
On the note of the AMOLED screen and the gpu its a matter of importance? Do you play a lot of games? If so the gpu will definitely be a necessity. If you watch a lot of media the screen will be a must.
Do you mod/plan to mod your phone a lot? If so then the Nexus might still be the better choice.
Also the trackball is gone so there is no led notifications on the Galaxy S phones.
-Cheers
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The question is posted on Captivate forums.. awaiting feedback.
Yes, I love playing games, I play HomeRunBattle 3D, and Asphalt5 mostly. HrB 3D is still manageable, but Asphalt 5 is a power hungry beast that brings the Nexus to its knees...
But alas.. I am an android developer and I love the mods and and trying out stuff..
Questions.. Questions... (TODO or NOT TODO ) !!

android.activate said:
The question is posted on Captivate forums.. awaiting feedback.
Yes, I love playing games, I play HomeRunBattle 3D, and Asphalt5 mostly. HrB 3D is still manageable, but Asphalt 5 is a power hungry beast that brings the Nexus to its knees...
But alas.. I am an android developer and I love the mods and and trying out stuff..
Questions.. Questions... (TODO or NOT TODO ) !!
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If u love to flash and tweak, then the N1 will do the trick

Exactly. Its harder to tweak the galaxy series. I love my n1, but have been drooling over the captivate.

Gingerbread is just around the corner, and there will be a whole new wave of devices out that blow the SGS away. I see the Galaxy S as more of a side-grade, I'm afraid.

Don't you lose "unlimited" data if you upgrade your contract with ATT?

i think you can keep your unlimited data if you were grandfathered in.
anyway if you get the captivate you should flash stock android on it immediately. i played with a captivate 2 days ago, and it was actually not as smooth as the nexus running launcher pro. plus i hated the UI samsung put on there. the nexus is just so open and easy to tweak, i'd be a hard decision. plus have you seen the Desire HD yesterday? so many phoens are around the corner. i wont be tempted until something really blows away the nexus, like dual core CPU. the galaxy is still too close to matching the nexus specs, 1ghz, 512mb, etc.
you could save your upgrade. or use it on an iphone 4 and sell that thing for like 600 bucks profit.

RogerPodacter said:
i think you can keep your unlimited data if you were grandfathered in.
anyway if you get the captivate you should flash stock android on it immediately. i played with a captivate 2 days ago, and it was actually not as smooth as the nexus running launcher pro. plus i hated the UI samsung put on there. the nexus is just so open and easy to tweak, i'd be a hard decision. plus have you seen the Desire HD yesterday? so many phoens are around the corner. i wont be tempted until something really blows away the nexus, like dual core CPU. the galaxy is still too close to matching the nexus specs, 1ghz, 512mb, etc.
you could save your upgrade. or use it on an iphone 4 and sell that thing for like 600 bucks profit.
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So do I sell my IPhone Contract too..? I am not sure how selling of iPhone works.

I also looked at the Galaxy S series (although the Vibrant not the Captivate) but I prefer the trackball for being able to precisely edit text. I think that Gingerbread will make a world of difference and the N1will of course get it first... Samsung has a horrible history of updates and on a more personal level Touchwiz looks like a cartoon and I hate it. I LOVE stock (vanilla) android. Just my humble opinion.

One thing to highly consider is that the hummingbird processor is not as fast as ours in the n1 it may run at 1ghz but it doesn't process as fast, my wife has a vibrant and I've run several benchmarks on both devices and the n1 blows the vibrant away every single time.

dowmace said:
One thing to highly consider is that the hummingbird processor is not as fast as ours in the n1 it may run at 1ghz but it doesn't process as fast, my wife has a vibrant and I've run several benchmarks on both devices and the n1 blows the vibrant away every single time.
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Paul22000 said:
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yeah i was just gonna say
The hummingbird 1ghz wrecks the snapdragon 1ghz (sadly) but the reason currently the n1 is winning is because of Froyo and the JIT. Just look at the quadrant scores pre-froyo

I took my Vibrant back for the fact that...
I missed the Track Ball.
I missed the sturdy, heavy build of the Nexus, the Vibrant is very cheap and plastic feeling.
I missed the Flash on the camera.
I just over all hope that a phone similar to the Nexus but with a larger screen is developed..

android.activate said:
So do I sell my IPhone Contract too..? I am not sure how selling of iPhone works.
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No you just sell the iPhone itself. You can remove the iPhone off your account anytime you want, even the day after you sign the new contract. All ATT cares about is that you pay your bill every month and fulfill your 2 years. So you can take the iPhone data plan off your account immediately.
It's an option to consider. Some people do it but if you aren't comfortable then don't worry about it.

dowmace said:
One thing to highly consider is that the hummingbird processor is not as fast as ours in the n1 it may run at 1ghz but it doesn't process as fast, my wife has a vibrant and I've run several benchmarks on both devices and the n1 blows the vibrant away every single time.
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Your joking right ? The only benchmark the n1 wins in is linpack . Cause of jit... quadrant we get 2200 with a hack without jit vs 1300 or so on n1? The sgs wins in almost every benchmark ..... the gpu totally smashes the n1... I've had both, n1 is a Tad faster feeling due to stock android ..... and jit ...
Gps works fine on my vibrant ...
N1 is awesome , but sgs wins hands down... especially soon with all 4 carriers having it... it'll have plenty mods.
Oh and it does not feel cheap ... not as sturdy as the n1 but n1 is heavier and will fall harder... also it comes with a extra cover for the back.. just awesome..
I love my n1, but my vibrant eats it alive.. especially in gpu .

I have both an and a captivate. N1 build quality is superb. N1 customization is awesome. Awesome dev support. Guaranteed firmeware support unlike samsung. You never know when samsung will stop upgrading. No guarantee they will get gingerbread neither. But n1 is getting outdated. But still my everyday phone.
However, captivate is a great device. Great samoled screen. Built quality is okay. Not as quality as n1. Very plasticee. At least captivate has the metal plate on the back to look cool. Vibrant all plastic. Not doggy the iphony lol. Sure this will get outdated soon but all devices will. It will matter whether u want the device now. You wait for the next device another one comes out. That's technology. There are mods on this device built by xda devs already. Already out putting crazy benchmark numbers. But not as smoothas the n1 on custom froyo. However cyanogen mod is in the works. They will be support by not comparable to n1. So far i like both device. Sure track ball and froyo is nice. But having the capability to play and watch games and movies with hd quality nice too. So i wouldn't completely cross out captivate or galaxy s. I just wish i had the euro version though. They seem to have more devs working on it. Captivate and vibrabrant dev is little slower then galaxy s. But can't beat a $100 for a fine piece of technology.
Oh btw, i upgraded both of my parents line with iphone 4 and sold those suckers for 600 bucks per pop. Save that money to buy something else when something better comes out. Perhaps nexus two. Lol. Or maybe the Htc desire hd/ace. I hope they release the quad band gsm version. Prob euros will be out late this year, hope i can't import a asian quad band or aussie quad band version.
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What would be a good phone to replace the i9000 ?

Thinking of selling this one before the price drops more.
But what would be a good replacement ?

I was thinking just the same, I'm planning on getting a SGS 2 when it comes out.
Other nice options are the Nexus S, LG Optimus 2x, Motorola Atrix 4G..

also thinking of the SGS 2 but might be too costly for me and is there a release date yet ?

Drooling:
Samsung Infuse 4G http://www.anandtech.com/show/4096/samsung-infuse-4g-announced
LG Optimus 2X http://www.anandtech.com/show/4089/lgs-optimus-2x-worlds-first-tegra-2-smartphone
HTC Inspire 4G http://www.anandtech.com/show/4095/htc-inspire-4g-and-new-htc-sense-announced
Motorola ATRIX 4G, with notebook chassis addon http://www.anandtech.com/show/4092/motorolas-atrix-4g-tegra-2-smartphone-netbook-in-one

I thought that the Atrix is the highest end phone on the market now...
***EDIT*** Just saw the post above. Infuse, 2xx whoa....
You could always wait and get an iphone 5

utsmaster18 said:
I thought that the Atrix is the highest end phone on the market now...
***EDIT*** Just saw the post above. Infuse, 2xx whoa....
You could always wait and get an iphone 5
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Infuse is still using a single core.... (1.2ghz hummingbird iirc)
Swyped from my captivating awesomeness with darky's rom

I switch from milestone to i9000, if you wanna out of trouble, stay away from moto
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DummyPLUG said:
I switch from milestone to i9000, if you wanna out of trouble, stay away from moto
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This, unless they give us unlocked bootloaders
Swyped from my captivating awesomeness with darky's rom

quite true, but the fact is the offical firmware full of bugs and moto never fix it, this is true for MS1,MS2,DEFY at least. I don't mind the bootload is locked if the firmware is stable anyway.
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yeah definitely not gonna get a moto

Sell it if you really want the latest device. If you're just selling it because its going to lose value I wouldn't bother because that next latest device is going to lose value just as quick.
I'm happy with my Galaxy S. I will sell it when it apps start requiring more advanced hardware.. but I think that's a while off.

I wouldn't, considering the cost, trade it for anything on the market right now.
The Atrix has its own bugs, multi-touch wonky and HSUPA AWOL, and little hope of fixes with locked bootloader (and if any it will be on 'carrier time' of months). Also it's pentile and I'm not going down that road again.
Inspire? Yawwn..single-core snapdragon hardly an upgrade.
Other dual-core out is LG Optimus 2x. Don't know, maybe LG can deliver here (ie. unlocked bootloader and quality subsysems) but 800x480 LCD is likely going to seem plain after SAMOLED...
To me its SGS2 or bust, it will be interesting to see when it comes out if Samsung has learned some lessons from SGS1.
The key will be minimizing flaws. Accurate GPS. Snappy performance (apparently movinand more to blame for this than RFS so RFS isn't the death knell). No other big screw-ups. (I won't say battery life because although they can make some headway here, there will somehow always be people who can kill it in 12 hours with 'moderate' usage. I could only kill my SGS in a day when I played for hours on end.)
If it is really amazing, I'd grab it and keep the SGS as a backup. Otherwise I have no issue holding on until next spring/summer.

The Galaxy S phones (or all top tier phones right now) won't be obsolete or get to the point where we are complaining about speed until the end of this year, if thhat.
It also mainly depends on what you're going to be doing on the phone. If you do a lot of browsing, twitter, fb, YouTube and video watching, you should t hhave to upgrade till the end of this year at the earliest.
However as dual core phones become more popular (latter end of the year) more and more applications will be developed for a faster, more powerful phone.
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msolus said:
Sell it if you really want the latest device. If you're just selling it because its going to lose value I wouldn't bother because that next latest device is going to lose value just as quick.
I'm happy with my Galaxy S. I will sell it when it apps start requiring more advanced hardware.. but I think that's a while off.
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Technology will never stop. When you'll buy SGS2 there will be SGS3, 4.... on the way. Never look at what others have or what's coming in the market. If you're satisfied with your device and its not giving you any troubles then it is just a waste of time & money to look for another thing. Why bother when you even don't need something better? SGS i9000 is almost a perfect smart phone. Be happy with it

Ah i would only Sell My Galaxy S if i need to buy S2 and only if i really have to use NFC..But being in INDIA i think it will be ages b4 NFC comes here . So No point selling .
My other suggestion would be HTC Desire S(just love the sense ui+this one has FF camera)..

msolus said:
Sell it if you really want the latest device. If you're just selling it because its going to lose value I wouldn't bother because that next latest device is going to lose value just as quick.
I'm happy with my Galaxy S. I will sell it when it apps start requiring more advanced hardware.. but I think that's a while off.
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i'm thinking of keeping the i9000 because the SGS 2 it's not that advanced yes the 1 gig of ram looks good and that huge super screen but the gpu is not that big deal it's just slightly better than the i9000 an the same with the Optimus 2x even with that Tegra gpu THX to our awesome developers the galaxy s is twice as good then the stock ones i'll only replace it if i break the screen or something like that
LONG LIVE THE --- I9000 ---

i think end of 2011 middle 2012 phones will have this "Kal-El" AKA SUPERMAN GPU ( hahahahah)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPN3hHI9y-E&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkFWv3cFWEA

Currently i am nearly happy with my SGS after replacing original kernel with speedmod k13c, using ext4 lagfix, replacing homescreen with GO Launcher EX, adding GPS Aids to get better GPS fix. Only miss HID Bluetooth support.
Removed nearly all pre-installed software, Samsung is not good at software development i think. The screen is awesome (use Samsung monitors for years as well).
I hope for a perfect combination of features in a phone 2012 - the super phone will never be super for long
Cheers
Alex

So the Nexus one is getting older... whats the next best phone to upgrade to?

Hello all,
So I know some of the developers are moving on to better phones... and I wonder, after the nexus one which has been an awesome phone, whats the latest greatest everyones going to (I use Att)

You didn't give a time frame for your upgrade but if you can hold out then the S2 looks like an excellent option. It's the first phone that I feel upgrades everything about the N1 and will likely be as popular as the original Galaxy S with the devs. It does lack NFC and has the same resolution as the N1 but it'll probably be years before NFC is commonplace (In the UK at least) and the Super Amoled Plus screen has been called one of the best, if not the best displays out there by several reviews (Check out engadgets review).

The LG 2X (or G2X) is gaining a bit of momentum, although the stock software is pretty bad.

I'd definitely gofor the galaxy S2. Thats like the phone of the millennia.
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The S2 has NFC really (point of correction)
And to add to that, i have been using N1 since the month it came out and to be frank the only phone worthy of being an upgrade to my N1 is the Samsung Galaxy S2.

bmimam said:
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Not in the UK it doesn't

I don't want to go any bigger, so probably Desire S unless the Galaxy S2 Mini is almost exactly the same with the only difference being 3.7" vs 4.3" screen.

i didn't make up my mind between htc sensation or samsung g s2

I'd definitely go for the s2. I see more value for money on that.but that's just me.
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Agreed, the Galaxy S II is the first phone that has looked liked a worthwhile upgrade to the N1. I've been a little tempted by it, however I've decided I can hold out a bit longer - for the possibility of a Nexus 3 in December. I'm hoping it'll be as revolutionary as the N1, and not a complete disappointment like the Nexus S.

I wouldn't really call the Nexus S a disappointment.... just more of a Nexus One.5; upgraded touch pannel, NFC, better GPU/CPU. It just wasn't a huge leap like the the previous ~500ghz phones to the Snapdragon.
I wanted the Sensation because I don't like the way Samsung has treated their upgrades, but if the SGSII is hackable enough I might concider it over the Sensation.

I'm thinking HTC Pyramid/Sensation...if it can be unlocked & rooted

I'm a vanilla stock Nexus guy, so I just splurged on a Nexus S. If it weren't for an accident, I probably would've hold out for the 3rd Nexus iteration or Samsung Galaxy S II.

Any phone with dual core and gingerbread in it

anything dual core
Seriously there is no point going with the Desire S or anything like that.
You're getting the same CPU except die shrinked. OK GPU is better but I'm not big on touch screen gaming so its moot for me, of course you may think otherwise. Screen, battery, functionality all similar to Nexus, you won't see much difference.
Basically you want a major bump, and that means atrix, SGS2, sensation, LG2x.
atrix is bootloader locked, ditto sensation. not sure about LG2x but it only has 512RAM, otherwise looks like a good phone. But Samsung Galaxy S2 looks like the runaway best option - you get a vastly better screen, better battery, cpu and gpu that smokes, also ships with gingerbread, very popular so lots of dev support, can't lose. Only issue is cost, gigantor size and availability - apparently there are 3 million preorders/backorders!!!!
In all honesty if SGS2 is not for you, I'd just wait. I'm doing that with my nexus one, I figure a 3.7 or 4" superphone is round the corner (not too keen on 4.3 gigantic size either), or I'll just save a few hundred bucks, in meantime the nexus is still trucking along doing everything I need it to do (push emails, SIP, music, light browsing, google sauce integration, gps, and oh yeah it works as a phone lol).

Is the new Sammy only coming out for ATT or is there also a Tmo version?

first time nexus one user. like it but i see y they made the s. had the g2x took it back, and i have the xperia play on the way. might go with the sensation on the 6th. they cracked the thunderbolt so they will crack that as well. ill keep selling and trading till than.

I have the GS1 and I am for sure getting a GS2. I have had all the droids except for the charge and the galaxy line is far superior to any other Droid. The only other phone I would get is the next Nexus. The rumor is its going to be the Nexus R.
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tyvallely said:
I have the GS1 and I am for sure getting a GS2. I have had all the droids except for the charge and the galaxy line is far superior to any other Droid. The only other phone I would get is the next Nexus. The rumor is its going to be the Nexus R.
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Nexus R? How about Nexus 3!

I've Bern full out nexus one proponent. But the galaxy s2 is finally what interests me to upgrade. Its very future proof, comes with up to date android 2.3.3, minimal skin, and unlocked boot loader. It ticks every box more than any other upcoming phone.

[Q] Nexus One, thoughts?

Hey guys, I am currently on the HD7 and am looking to trade for a Nexus One or even a Nexus S (any band I guess). I am just here to see what your thoughts are on the device. Honest opinion, I dont really have money to put in on the side, do you think I could do better than the Nexus One? I have a guy that will 1v1 a Galaxy S 4G as well. Is the Galaxy S4G better than the Nexus One?
Any thoughts are appreciated.

Get the galaxy a,. Better cpu and gpu + google still supports it
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If you're looking to unlock and root the N1 (if it hasn't been done already) then it won't matter if Google supports it or not. You may be able to get ICS through future ROMs. The SGS 4G's better gpu really only matters if you want better graphics...and the cpu isn't that much different. If I could do it again...even with the phones out there now, I'd get another N1. I've had mine since early last year and I've had zero problems with it up until it got dropped into a cup of beer. So, it's built very well and it runs as good as the day I bought it.

I really like the design of the Nexus One. Its gonna be a tough choice.

S3 LTE vs nexus 4?

Hi all
I'm debating on buying either of these two phones
I play a lot of hd games so is the s3 LTE's gpu good enough (compared to nexus 4)?
The only reason i don't want to buy a nexus 4 is because of the paltry storage.......
In terms of performance does the s3 LTE match the nexus 4?
The S3 LTE is approx. 40$ more than nexus 4 where i am going to buy it and will the S3 LTE get android 5? (or even further)?
I would appreciate a quick reply as i have to buy either by tomrrow....

also
i dont mind lack of lte in nexus 4 my main worry is storage on nexus 4 and performance on s3 lte

tiru.adi13 said:
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i dont mind lack of lte in nexus 4 my main worry is storage on nexus 4 and performance on s3 lte
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Nexus 4. Get a big one and storage shouldn't be an issue, else you're using it wrong. I base this recommendation on your posting this on XDA, I assume you were at some point going to flash a non-standard ROM on your S3 LTE, yes? You will never get a completely stable AOSP-based ROM on an S3 LTE, this means ParanoidAndroid, AOKP, CyanogenMod. They will run, but they might drain the battery more than usual and certain features will probably never work on them due to lack of source code from Samsung. Same goes for the Exynos-based S4.
Get a Nexus 4, Sony Xperia Z or HTC One... Or buy my S3 LTE for a good price?

Lol sorry man can't buy yours but i do plan to have 3-4 hd games and considering this takes up around 8-9 gb the remaining 2-3 gb on nexus 4 isn't sufficient......
Have you tried any hd games on ur s3 lte? How do they perform? And yes like you corectly concurred i will be running cyanogenmod if i buy an s3......
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Nexus 4 support only 3g network, of cause you should not by nexus 4.
4G network is the trend, you should buy galaxy s iii lte
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I had the same dilemma and my choice was i9305. Development is slow and painful but other than that it's great phone. 2GB of RAM and LTE on board makes it more future proof than N4. Expandable memory is a MUST so N4 looses again.
I've played few new HD games on it and there's no lag or anything, smooth and crisp graphics. Brightness half way up and you can play up to 4hrs non-stop!
Removable battery is a good thing if you want to play games on it.....
Price is going down as well, here in UK, you can get new one from eBay for less than £300 so it cost the same as N4.
It's really up to you but I'll suggest S3 LTE.

If I hadnt been given a 4G S3 as a replacement by insurance when my orig S3 broke I would have gotten a Nexus 4, Not a fan of samsung anymore they are far to closed to development on there hardware. My friends with the Nexus 4 dont mind the lack of LTE as its plenty fast enough and with so much Wifi I guess it depends on how important LTE is to you

tiru.adi13 said:
Lol sorry man can't buy yours but i do plan to have 3-4 hd games and considering this takes up around 8-9 gb the remaining 2-3 gb on nexus 4 isn't sufficient......
Have you tried any hd games on ur s3 lte? How do they perform? And yes like you corectly concurred i will be running cyanogenmod if i buy an s3......
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I agree with the others, the S3 LTE is a good phone. But it is a terrible choice if you plan on running CyanogenMod.

Rekoil and co - how is it a 'terrible' choice.. Come on dram queens.. CM10.1 is working a treat on my I9305 don't kno wwhat your on about.. Stbale, feature rich (sure a few things not present) and development is nightly just like the rest of the game.. So I ask again.. Sure the kernal tweaks/modding is where we're lacking but with the right tools you can can very good battery life and performance is blistering..
All in all only negative is the scope of development presently - this isn't to say things won't change with respect to kernal.. In short nothing critical is missing and development is churning along nicely.. A few features i'm sure you'll miss if your looking but makes up for in performance/multi tasking imo .
Lack of ROM choices is another issue sure - but if your talking CM then not really as they're all pretty much on par..
So Kernal once again.. This is the big miss with the phone.. Anyway just eager for kernal releases if possible.. Otherwise i'll still be content until the next big thing comes my way and th ephone still rocks hard core

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If I hadnt been given a 4G S3 as a replacement by insurance when my orig S3 broke I would have gotten a Nexus 4, Not a fan of samsung anymore they are far to closed to development on there hardware. My friends with the Nexus 4 dont mind the lack of LTE as its plenty fast enough and with so much Wifi I guess it depends on how important LTE is to you
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hm, imagine when all your friends are watching youtube hd video using lte network, getting a 40 to 100 mb per sec download speed without lag and wait time for start and you are still using around 10mb download speed. waiting the video to load up , hahaha
I think at that time your would regret buying a 3g phone at the beginning.
and the truth is at some point of time in near future ( actually it is happening now in Hong Kong), the mothly charge for a 3G plan is equal to a monthly charge of 4G plan. Would you think you are stupid when you are paying a 4G plan while using only 3G network simply because you are using a damn phone that can only support 3G network?
And for the wifi, come on, be realistic, in a coffee shop , 30 people sitting there sharing the network, how fast can you get from that wifi network?

Thanks for all the input guys......sat down and calculated how much storage i would need after all the games and music and excluding videos i will have used around 12.4 GB. Considering the nexus 4 has only 12.9 GB storage available to the user I will mostly be going for the s3 LTE.....
I'm sorry if I'm coming off as annoying but rekoil is cyanogen really that bad on s3? That would be a major put-off......because I can't stand touchwiz.....and right now on my mini almost every custom ROM like AOKP and CM has one problem or the other....
Oh and anguslaw 4G doesn't really matter to me we don't even have it yet here in india :-/

mick353 said:
Rekoil and co - how is it a 'terrible' choice.. Come on dram queens.. CM10.1 is working a treat on my I9305 don't kno wwhat your on about.. Stbale, feature rich (sure a few things not present) and development is nightly just like the rest of the game.. So I ask again.. Sure the kernal tweaks/modding is where we're lacking but with the right tools you can can very good battery life and performance is blistering..
All in all only negative is the scope of development presently - this isn't to say things won't change with respect to kernal.. In short nothing critical is missing and development is churning along nicely.. A few features i'm sure you'll miss if your looking but makes up for in performance/multi tasking imo .
Lack of ROM choices is another issue sure - but if your talking CM then not really as they're all pretty much on par..
So Kernal once again.. This is the big miss with the phone.. Anyway just eager for kernal releases if possible.. Otherwise i'll still be content until the next big thing comes my way and th ephone still rocks hard core
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And what about the graphics glitches in keyboard and other places that will literally never be fixed? TV out will also never be fixed.
I'll be honest, I'm going off what I've seen on my friends non-LTE device (I9300, pretty much the same device apart from the modem), I personally cannot run AOSP-based on my device because if I run anything other than Perseus kernel my baseband doesn't find an IMEI, perhaps this has pronounced my dislike for Samsung (in my opinion, something like the modem configuration shouldn't be so easily breakable/writable). But everything I've said is true, all the good developers want nothing to do with the Exynos4 platform, codeworkx happened to have ported to I9300, making I9305 very easy to support, but he wont even accept a free I9305 at this point, because he is fed up with Samsung.
I will mention this again because I feel it is an important point. I very much like the hardware, it is simple in design and feature rich, this is a phone I would have stayed with for several years... if Samsung had released source code for the platform in a timely manner. At this point I am probably going to sell my I9305 soon and use my old Desire S until I can get ahold of an Xperia Z or something. All the sources for that device were released BEFORE the device even hit the market, now THAT is good support.
And... "development is churning along nicely"? This is literally all that is happening in terms of development for AOSP-based ports. If you know anything about programming you can tell that those commits are not development so much as fixing configuration mistakes and applying code loaned from other devices.
Although this is interesting... apparently the Galaxy S4 in my market will not be using the Exynos Octa, but rather a Snapdragon 600. This might be a pretty good contender in that case! At the moment I'm personally considering HTC One, Xperia Z and Galaxy S4 (but ONLY if it comes with Snapdragon 600).

I would go for a nexus 4. Brilliant processing and graphics rendering and no lack of roms or development for the next 3 years atleast. Also there is something called enjoying one game at a time. In my experience I have never liked playing more than one good game At a time on my phone. Nor would u b wasting your time removing the crap that Samsung puts on it's phones. Just my view, yours may be different
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Thanks for the input guys. I'm now decided I'm going to buy nexus 4. I'm also thinking because of lack of additional storage. But i have nexus 7. I can play all the games that I put there. My friend let me hold his note 2 and I was asked to root it and install rooms or kernel. I searched in xda and read threads. I'm a little disappointed because of few custom roms. I'm really looking for aokp rom but it's not stable on note 2 I think this applies to all Samsung phones except for Google edition?
If you're into tweaking and want custom roms, high performance phone go for nexus 4 and leave that additional storage, removable battery, LTE, and touch wiz!

Seems you made your choice. They are both equally good phones, just in different areas. The nexus 4 is faster, nicer and has a superior screen. As for stock android ... well I hate it - it is faster, but I guess it's a matter of preference. One advice - when you pick up your n4 take the phone as you would talk and listen for any noise from the earpiece - they tend to hiss a lot and if it does, ask for another one. Also look for a rev 2.0 N4 - they made some nice small changes in the design, google it.

Even if you will get a Nexus 4 i still think that S3 LTE is the way to go for what you need it, yes Nexus 4 has better development and better GPU, but S3 LTE you get more space, you can get a spare battery, better screen for gaming (the home buttons are a bit of a problem at first at least when playing some games).
So by me i'd say strictly for gaming:
Nexus 4: 1) better GPU (not that better in real games only in benchmarks).
S3 LTE: 1) more space (you will need it the more the game will evolve)
2) spare battery a must for gamers on smartphones (or a big battery)
3) games seem better on Amoled screens (but that's just my opinion, and no problems whit the buttons).
4) better sound if you use headphones
But if you want to mod the phone go for Nexus 4 v2.0.:fingers-crossed:

I would like to know how is the radio/antena quality of Nexus 4. Galaxy Nexus has terrible reception compared to S3. GPS chip is a second class (still talking about GN.) too. I got a feeling that they build Nexus devices to be crap intentionally, so that all software which is able to run on it, flies on other high end devices . Regarding Note 2, I am not sure what the guy is talking about. There are plenty of ROMs and support for it. It is a great peace of hardware IMO, and my favorite one. It always comes up to, what for do you actually need/use a device. I want to be able to work with it. For me that means writing emails, doing some system administration (I use PaderSync for ssh for example.), sometimes working even with Excel sheets, browsing the web, and making pictures of documents and singing them (stopped doing this.) and for all this I need a bigger screen and resolution, always good reception and decent camera. I also like colors of amoled screens .
So you decide depending on what is important for you, and check the value for money ratio, of course.
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But if you are not in a hurry, why not wait a little and consider other phones? Xperia Z has great support, sources are published, it's a nice device, HTC One and S4 will get Nexus like versions. So depending on how do you intend to acquire your device (contract or free/unlocked) maybe you will be able to get one of newer devices?
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N4 has good reception, high class gps and amazingly sharp screen. It's fast as hell , boots in seconds and loads apps instantly. UI is very responsive (butter) Camera is also decent, but not better than sgs3 and the led is weaker.
Only drawbacks are speakerphone, in call quality, lack of space and the terrible vanilla os with the onscreen buttons and ugly and very uncomfortable UI (personal opinion). Oh and that battery... Well it's not intended for gaming , it's a developer phone and ! If I was new to android I'd get the nexus, but the OEM skins actually make for a better usability ( s planner, better phone ui)
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N4 has good reception, high class gps and amazingly sharp screen. It's fast as hell , boots in seconds and loads apps instantly. UI is very responsive (butter) Camera is also decent, but not better than sgs3 and the led is weaker.
Only drawbacks are speakerphone, in call quality, lack of space and the terrible vanilla os with the onscreen buttons and ugly and very uncomfortable UI (personal opinion). Oh and that battery... Well it's not intended for gaming , it's a developer phone and ! If I was new to android I'd get the nexus, but the OEM skins actually make for a better usability ( s planner, better phone ui)
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You like TW ! I don't like S Planer because it forces you to use Samsung Calendar, and doesn't have 2 way sync with Google calendar, what I use for work too.
Speaking about launcher, Nova is my preference. Simple but powerful. Should be the Google stock one.

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