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Hello Guys,
I’m a Sprint HTC Hero owner who is trying to get CM 6.1
My device has the latest OTA update 2.32.651.2
I went ahead and tried z4root which has 2 options, temporary and permanent. Went ahead and did temporary and it stated that it was rooted. Superuser shows up in my apps, so I went ahead and installed ROM manager as a youtube video said (gave a full successful walkthrough)…I open ROM Manager up and it says – You must root your phone for ROM Manager to function. Superuser was not found at “/system/bin/su” or “/system/xbin/su”.
Now using Astro File Manager, I checked those directories and it wasn’t there as ROM Manager stated, but in my SD Card, I see su-2.3.1-bin-signed…
Now my question is, should I try it with permenant root?
If not, what is the recommended next step?
Should I delete/uninstall everything I have that’s related to my previous root attempt and do the following:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804296
I’m an Accounting major and a noob at this stuff…and I see people helping each other out here which is awesome, but I get confused trying to keep up with some posts where people are sent to other posts and so forth :/
Thank u in advance! Happy Holidays!
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Below is the process on a step by step basis from which i was able to complete it with the help of skndeep102. Thanks again buddy!
-Download z4root here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833953
-Install and run app, press on Permenant Root
-Let it run until it says it has completed
-Once it has completed you will see the Superuser app in your drawer
-Download Rom Manager from the Market
-Open Rom Manager and press on Flash ClockworkMod Recovery at the top (give it a bit as it has to download it and then install)
I had already downloaded the CM 6.1 rom and had it on the SD card
-So i went ahead and hit reboot to recovery in ROM Manager
-Once it is in recovery, go ahead and scroll down to Nandroid and do a backup
-once you do a back up press back and reboot
-Once it starts up again head over to ROM Manager and select Install ROM from SD Card
-Look for the Rom, select it, and it asks you to Wipe Device and Cache, select both
-It reboots to recovery, select the rom and install
I hope i didnt miss a step, but thats pretty much it if i remember it correctly (spent much more time reading than actually doing, lol) Also, if there is something that isnt touched upon here just go ahead and read through as several questions were asked and answered along the way.
Hope it helps!
* Process confirmed to still be working as of 1/5/2011
da305kratos said:
Hello Guys,
I’m a Sprint HTC Hero owner who is trying to get CM 6.1
My device has the latest OTA update 2.32.651.2
I went ahead and tried z4root which has 2 options, temporary and permanent. Went ahead and did temporary and it stated that it was rooted. Superuser shows up in my apps, so I went ahead and installed ROM manager as a youtube video said (gave a full successful walkthrough)…I open ROM Manager up and it says – You must root your phone for ROM Manager to function. Superuser was not found at “/system/bin/su” or “/system/xbin/su”.
Now using Astro File Manager, I checked those directories and it wasn’t there as ROM Manager stated, but in my SD Card, I see su-2.3.1-bin-signed…
Now my question is, should I try it with permenant root?
If not, what is the recommended next step?
Should I delete/uninstall everything I have that’s related to my previous root attempt and do the following:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804296
I’m an Accounting major and a noob at this stuff…and I see people helping each other out here which is awesome, but I get confused trying to keep up with some posts where people are sent to other posts and so forth :/
Thank u in advance! Happy Holidays!
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I used permanent root when I did this
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i am in the same position...the recommendation to me was to RUU to an older version and then root. I am not sure how to do that, so im hoping someone has another solution.
I personally dont trust those one click root options. Manual root requires a little more reading but I have never had an issue that way.
You can always try the permanent option. I dont see why you wouldnt want permanent anyway. If you use the temporary, its gonna unroot you when you reset your phone.
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I used permanent root when I did this
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Did the permenant root allow you to continue with the process?
RUU back to an older version just requires that you have the htc drivers installed and the ruu exe. You just double click the ruu exe and follow the instructions.
da305kratos said:
Did the permenant root allow you to continue with the process?
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Yeah it worked for me I was rooted and had clockwork mod in about 10 minutes
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kbizzle said:
RUU back to an older version just requires that you have the htc drivers installed and the ruu exe. You just double click the ruu exe and follow the instructions.
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Where can I find the RUU? HTC's official site?
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I used permanent root when I did this
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I'm in the process of trying it...its been stuck at Rebooting for a couple mins now... :/
Wait and see at this point, i guess...
OK so I did the permenant root...and appearantly it worked since z4root is telling me it is and it now gives me the option to re-root and undo root...Also, when I open Rom Manager, it isn't telling me to root the phone...
However, I saw in another forum that a way to check if it is rooted is to download a terminal emulator and type in "su" after the $ ...When i do that it tells me permission denied....
What next?
da305kratos said:
OK so I did the permenant root...and appearantly it worked since z4root is telling me it is and it now gives me the option to re-root and undo root...Also, when I open Rom Manager, it isn't telling me to root the phone...
However, I saw in another forum that a way to check if it is rooted is to download a terminal emulator and type in "su" after the $ ...When i do that it tells me permission denied....
What next?
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Just use room manager to flash clockwork mod recovery and you're done flash the rom of your choice
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I went into ROM Manager and pressed on Flash ClockworkMod Recovery, it does its loading thing on the bar right ontop but it doesnt say anything...normal?
skndeep102 said:
Just use room manager to flash clockwork mod recovery and you're done flash the rom of your choice
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It says that I must have ClockworkMod Recovery installed to flash and restore roms.
Where do I get this?
Just a heads up, it seems the root works, the su file is in bin and i tested out drocap2 screencapture app and gave it superuser permission. Worked perfectly...now if i could know where to get ClockworkMod Recovery as the Rom Manager I got from the market did not bring it :/
Use the "un-option" and try another method. I installed a stock ruu on my phone this morning to update my prl and tried the same app. It doesn't flash everything you need like the "flash_image" file. You need that to flash a recovery. I just re-rooted my phone the same way I did back in July. Take note that I am with cellular south and all I had to do is run a batch file and oila, there I am sitting in recovery. If you want to try another "root via app" method, you can try this-->View attachment UniversalAndroot.apk .
Instructions:
Open app and root
Download Rom Manager(which you have) and flash cm recovery.
I still think it probably won't work, but you can try anyway. I think these "rooting apps" only do enough so you can use apps like "AddFree"(or whatever it is) and others like it.
EDIT: In Rom Manager, the very first tab(up at the top) should say"Flash ClockworkMod Recovery". Press that one. It would ever flash for me until I went back to me nandroid.
dean.d said:
Use the "un-option" and try another method. I installed a stock ruu on my phone this morning to update my prl and tried the same app. It doesn't flash everything you need like the "flash_image" file. You need that to flash a recovery. I just re-rooted my phone the same way I did back in July. Take note that I am with cellular south and all I had to do is run a batch file and oila, there I am sitting in recovery. If you want to try another "root via app" method, you can try this-->View attachment 465856 .
Instructions:
Open app and root
Download Rom Manager(which you have) and flash cm recovery.
I still think it probably won't work, but you can try anyway. I think these "rooting apps" only do enough so you can use apps like "AddFree"(or whatever it is) and others like it.
EDIT: In Rom Manager, the very first tab(up at the top) should say"Flash ClockworkMod Recovery". Press that one. It would ever flash for me until I went back to me nandroid.
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I see what you mean...Can anyone else pitch in on the aprt in regards to the rooting apps only doing enough for rooted apps use?
I read in another forum that I could just get the apk for ClockworkMod Recovery, install it, and then Head Over to ROM Manager and continue the process? any truth to that?
da305kratos said:
I see what you mean...Can anyone else pitch in on the aprt in regards to the rooting apps only doing enough for rooted apps use? I read in another forum that I could just get the apk for ClockworkMod Recovery, install it, and then Head Over to ROM Manager and continue the process? any truth to that?
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Found the same thing. Just didn't work like that for me.
dean.d said:
Found the same thing. Just didn't work like that for me.
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quick question, performance difference between stock 2.1 and lets say most roms out there a huge difference?
anyone else care to throw some input into my situation?
Happy Holidays btw...
Just a heads up, what worked for me, once I was rooted and downloaded ROM Manager I had to install Superuser.apk, then when I tried to flash clockwork recovery I got the Superuser dialog box asking for permission, then select allow. another awesome program to help is Android Commander that you install on your PC and it provides a gui adb access but you have to have sdk and adb installed on your pc, but if you look around there is info about it available. hope this helps, wish i had more time but i was just home on my lunchbreak, good luck
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ROM Manager just does not work.
................... So mad anybody buys this program it installs Clockwork Boot Partition but IT DOES NOT ALLOW TO UNINSTALL !!!! This is like a virus.
To make matter worse the program just does not work.
Download any RON from ROM Manager it boots to Clockwork Recovery "the virus" and just sits the with the clockwork Android/exclamation.
Clockwork does not answer emails.
Their Forum is full of people that like me are kind of nobbish and very mad that you can not restore the normal android partition.
Two questions anybody have any clue why the program does not work for me?
Failing that how to uninstall revert back to normal Nexus One configuration?
I seen somewhere where somebody says you download a file.
Run some commands from somewhere??? not sure where. I think if you find the the Android ADK you can connect you Nexus One to a computer, turn on some sort of terminal emulator "how?", type these commands from a promote in this emulator. THEY SAY THIS IS EASY ???
You know I live in Toronto I would pay somebody to revert my N1 to stock and not go through the hassle.
All this rooting stuff maybe nice, Titanium Back up, Shoot me, "Cool ROMs which I can not install with ROM Manager" but the education curve is not worth it in my book.
Did you click "flash clockwork recovery" at the top of the program?
pwig said:
Did you click "flash clockwork recovery" at the top of the program?
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I did but it still does not work. Oh well tried to load CyanogenMod 6.0.0 said there was an error in recovery and it did not work.
pwig said:
Did you click "flash clockwork recovery" at the top of the program?
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I did but it still does not work. Oh well tried to load CyanogenMod 6.0.0 said there was an error in recovery and it did not work got the exclamation android again
Did you flash anything? Or just root and install Rom Manager?
Here are the steps......
Made sure I was rooted, ran a few apps that require root permissions.
Ran ROM Manager,
Flashed the latest Clockmod Recovery
Select Download ROM
Selected CyanogenMod 6.0.0 "I know it work well at least they say so here"
First time select backup current ROM, I did not go for a wipe, selected Google Apps addon.
Watched and it seemed to back up,
Rebooted but.... everything looked the same.
About phone, looked at Andriod Version 2.2 Baseband , kernal Build FRF91
see CyanogenMod nowhere.
Sucker for punishment opened ROM Manager and it asked me if I wanted to report an error "cancel" tried to install CyanogenMod again, it went staright to Andriod Guy/Exclaimation, hit up volume/power, rebooted.
Now whenever I try again I get Andriod guy/exclamation.
I think if I hit "fix permisions in ROM Manager", Flashed CLockwork recovery again .... I can go back to the first step above.
Have you downloaded a rom off of xda and attempted to flash it through recovery?
You can download ROMs from ROM Manager.
I downloaded them from ROM Manager.
Is Rom manager listed under the allowed list under the superuser apps? And it doesn't seem like clockwork is properly loaded on the system, otherwise you would not see the android/with exclamation mark when you boot into recovery. You would see that the latest clockwork recovery is listed twice on the top of the phone. If you have both lines there, that means you have the latest recovery. If you are still having problems with the latest clockwork recovery to install, have you tried the earlier versions to see if they properly install on the phone?
From my experiences, you need to indeed wipe and install gapps to properly install any rom. Then use titanium backup to restore your apps and settings. Looks like you are already backed up/nandroid before doing so.
Wipe first. My fault I didnt see that you ddint wipe
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Wipe first. My fault I didnt see that you ddint wipe
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I know most people say when you download ROMs you need to wipe.
I know with Android this should not be a big deal, enter your Google info, the market downloads everything you paid for and then set up exchange mail again but it does take me a few hours to go through the steps and I been lazy.
Try a wipe......
No one said rooting would be easy lol. Customizing one's possesion, let it be a car to a phone is no real small feat. Like anything, you can go into detail as much as you want or not depending on why type of Rom you choose and like. For CM6, that ROM is excellent for customizing pretty much everything on your phone, but it does take some time to get it to your liking.
If you like a "kitchen sink" ROM, have you looked at eVilD's Sense ROMs? Well thats if you like the Sense UI's really, which I do not mind, but everything is thrown in there lol. BUT CM6 is a great launching pad for a novice, like I still am.
I've had no problems with Rom Manager. which clockwork did you install? the beta or stable one? Cause i know when i was doing mine it asked me.
I did the following steps
1. Root
2. Installed Rom Manager and backed up
3. Downloaded Rom of my choice
4. Full wipe and installed rom (via rom manager)
The OP just didn't root, of course.
If the education curve isn't worth it - just uninstall the application. Because you didn't install anything besides the application - because you have no root privileges - because you didn't root. And since you state that you don't want to learn - then why did you start messing with it in the first place?
The only thing that I don't like about ROM Manager is that it creates a lot of people like the OP - starting to mess with something without any wish for understanding, how it works, screwing things up (or not), and start complaining. You did what you did, you didn't bother learning, so why exactly are you complaining?!
Well I will ignore Jack_r1 who is a troll.
"All boards have them ..... sigh"
For the people that were much more friendly and helpful,
Ok next time I try it I will do a full wipe.
Full wipe won't help you. Installing a root-only program without rooting the phone and expecting it to work wouldn't care if you wipe or not.
Guess you really have no clue...
Read my signature.
Calling me a troll won't help you either, and won't make you less infant. Especially for anyone who did bother reading my sig and my posts.
Jack_R1 said:
Full wipe won't help you. Installing a root-only program without rooting the phone and expecting it to work wouldn't care if you wipe or not.
Guess you really have no clue...
Read my signature.
Calling me a troll won't help you either, and won't make you less infant. Especially for anyone who did bother reading my sig and my posts.
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I thought OP said he has root.
To OP: Open the app drawer, do you have the superuser app?
Mokurex said:
I thought OP said he has root.
To OP: Open the app drawer, do you have the superuser app?
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I didn't bother reading his next post, where he said he had root. My mistake.
I believe he had the recovery installed initially (otherwise he wouldn't see it backing up), but the first reboot to stock ROM removed it. After that, he wasn't able to do anything, being booted to stock Android recovery. And came here to complain. I guess a difference between running a program and rebooting from different partition aren't common sense to understand? Should be a prerequisite list before rooting.
The correct way would be, of course, to reflash the recovery through ROM manager again, but for people who don't understand the concept of dual-booting and think they run an application - that's not obvious (and it's one of the reasons I think ROM Manager is bad, and manual installation is good). And the better way would be to read the guides and flash the recovery manually. And while going any of those ways, whining on internet boards instead of asking questions would be the most unwelcome way.
I use ROM Manager because I'm a lazy bastard and it has worked flawlessly for me. I have literally flashed over 50 ROMs (mostly CM nightlies) and it has yet to fail me.
But people that have no clue what they're doing shouldn't be using a program like this and I'm pretty sure it comes with a disclaimer of sorts? Although I've barely flashed anything manually I did read up on the processes before going the custom ROMs route, it just seemed obvious.
Me too - lazy bastard, that is...
However, there was an issue with one of the ROM Manager updates a while back, where backups wouldn't restore. That's when a bit of manual knowledge came in handy...
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Ive been reading around for about 2 weeks and so today I tried to root my hero. I ried frist to go the long way useing the android-sdk-windows route but it didnt work so I then went for the z4 root method as seen in a earlyer post. I installed the app. I clicked on root in my phone and it did its thing I guess? It didnt ask me to do a temp install or a perm install. It finally rebooted and all my apps were still on there from android market and it was running horribly slow so did a factory reset. I can see superuser app. I downloaded rom manager and every time I go to click install rom from sd card it says you must install clockworkmod recovery fist and so forth. I am just getting really lost in this hole process. All I wana do is get rid of the damn stock apps... make my hero run faster and if a rom is pretty much a custom background and stuff then install that. At this point I dont even know if the damn thing is rooted or not and I havent been able to find a clear answer on how to root ANYWHERE on any site that will work. It seems 2 different methods ive tried both have failed. If anyone can help that would be great.
I'm not a dev but i had a hard time my first time too. So did you look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=674833. and have you tried to see if you can adb in cmd on your computer? If so and nothing happened and your phone in working like crap now then find the news 2.1 ruu use that then start over. I used this tread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583291). Hope this helped and good luck!!
The lag u experienced is a known issue when u reboot simply run z4root again and it should fix it and clockworkmod recovery is the custom recovery u need to install in order to use a Rom and u flash it through Rom manager and if u just want to remove system apps try root explorer from the market its 4$ but well worth it
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hitman13429 said:
Ive been reading around for about 2 weeks and so today I tried to root my hero. I ried frist to go the long way useing the android-sdk-windows route but it didnt work so I then went for the z4 root method as seen in a earlyer post. I installed the app. I clicked on root in my phone and it did its thing I guess? It didnt ask me to do a temp install or a perm install. It finally rebooted and all my apps were still on there from android market and it was running horribly slow so did a factory reset. I can see superuser app. I downloaded rom manager and every time I go to click install rom from sd card it says you must install clockworkmod recovery fist and so forth. I am just getting really lost in this hole process. All I wana do is get rid of the damn stock apps... make my hero run faster and if a rom is pretty much a custom background and stuff then install that. At this point I dont even know if the damn thing is rooted or not and I havent been able to find a clear answer on how to root ANYWHERE on any site that will work. It seems 2 different methods ive tried both have failed. If anyone can help that would be great.
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The laginess is normal after z4root...tap on Flash ClockworkMod Recovery, install it (It takes a bit since it has to download it first). Note that if it doesnt do anything when u press it, uninstall it, reboot your phone and download it again from the Market, that was the only issue i had, everything else went by smoothly.
Just follow what I did on here
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875351) and feel free to keep asking questions, i am new to this also. Looking back, its a process that should take longer than 30 minutes.
I put the step by step of the process on the first post as an edit.
I just got my Nexus about a week ago and I've pretty much figured the phone out by now. However one Issue I have is with the You Tube application.(part of the firmware)
I will get a still image of the video and audio on You Tube at first. Then when I select watch in normal quality the application either stop responding or I get and error message saying the video can't be played.
I was told by the guy who sold me the phone that it used to have Cyanogen installed on it but now it currently has the shipping (stock) ROM installed on it using AmonRA as the bootloader. He got the phone directly from Google when they first came out.
Suggestions ?
Reinstall Youtube app?
I wish I could or knew how. It's part of the firmware. There isn't even an option to get rid of it as it does not show up under the list of installed aps.
Grab the updated version from the Market.
I already tried that and it's not showing me a you tube aplication.
adamsavage said:
I already tried that and it's not showing me a you tube aplication.
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Is the boot-loader unlocked?
Is the phone rooted?
I'm assuming since you said it has CM7 on it, that the boot-loader is unlocked.
In this case you could try flashing a different ROM that has gapps bundled into it, or just flash over the gapps zip.
The phone is NOT rooted as I ran test using a app called Android Terminal Emulator and typed in "SU" I got back "permission denied" I have no idea if the bootloader is unlocked. For flashing ..Well I've never flashed a phone before so I would have no idea what I was doing or how to do it.
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The phone is NOT rooted as I ran test using a app called Android Terminal Emulator and typed in "SU" I got back "permission denied" I have no idea if the bootloader is unlocked. For flashing ..Well I've never flashed a phone before so I would have no idea what I was doing or how to do it.
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Try the attachment I uploaded, its the new YouTube app. Took it straight from my phone.
Just copy to SD card, and use a file manager to install it.
Using astro file manager and when I select open with app manager it says it cannot open the file you uploaded for me. I tried a different file manager and this one said it had problem parsing the file.
Hmmm. Sounds like some type of data loss when downloading the file. Try redownloading again. I just download it and it worked fine for me. Also, could try downloading it through the xda app on the market. Its what I just did and it worked fine.
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Download directly from the site on the app and it still says problem parsing the package. I don't have a rooted phone and its using stock firmware.
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adamsavage said:
Download directly from the site on the app and it still says problem parsing the package. I don't have a rooted phone and its using stock firmware.
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Ok try this since you can't find it on the market on the device.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.google.android.youtube
Also are you running 2.1 or 2.2?
I'm using 2.1 and I've checked for updates by going to settings-about phone-System updates. I can't get the newer 2.2 version as far as I know. I could always root the phone. I've googled on how to do it and it looks pretty straight forward.
For my firmware:
I have basebrand version: 32.36.00.28u_4.06.00.12_7
Kernel Version 2.6.29: gad36b87 [email protected]#1
Build Number: ERD79
Upgrade to the latest 2.2.2 stock or custom ROM. It'll bring you tons of benefits besides making Youtube work.
Do this:
1)Read the wiki in Jack_R1's signature.
2)Do a nandroid backup from recovery (amon_ra).
3)Go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=927935. Download the first file "Stock, with no modifications but root". Move it to your SDcard. (This is the latest stock ROM (FRG83G / 2.2.2) with root access. It is unmodified except allowing for root access.)
4)Flash it through recovery
tech338 said:
Do this:
1)Read the wiki in Jack_R1's signature.
2)Do a nandroid backup from recovery (amon_ra).
3)Go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=927935. Download the first file "Stock, with no modifications but root". Move it to your SDcard. (This is the latest stock ROM (FRG83G / 2.2.2) with root access. It is unmodified except allowing for root access.)
4)Flash it through recovery
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I don't think he even has a custom recovery.
So with assuming he does not.
Follow this link and use the guide there to upgrade to froyo.
http://android.modaco.com/content/g...es-zip-online-kitchen-optional-root-insecure/
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I don't think he even has a custom recovery.
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In reading his first post, he mentions having AmonRa as the bootloader... If he does have that, then fixing the issue by flashing a new ROM should be pretty straight forword.
adamsavage said:
I was told by the guy who sold me the phone that it used to have Cyanogen installed on it but now it currently has the shipping (stock) ROM installed on it using AmonRA as the bootloader. He got the phone directly from Google when they first came out.
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Ok so I read the guide and it seems to be straight forward. Gonna read over it a couple more time tomorrow to make sure it's sinking in.
I'm stuck in the guild at stage 2.."Setup SDK"..The guide does no tell you that you need this special version of Java to open the program.. I have both SDK and the java setup on the computer. However where I'm stuck is simply getting windows to install usb drivers for the phone. I went to update drivers and told it to look in the folder SDK was installed and it refused by saying there was no drivers for the phone in there. When I set up the SDK program there is no option for "usb drivers" for me to even install..
adamsavage said:
I'm stuck in the guild at stage 2.."Setup SDK"..The guide does no tell you that you need this special version of Java to open the program.. I have both SDK and the java setup on the computer. However where I'm stuck is simply getting windows to install usb drivers for the phone. I went to update drivers and told it to look in the folder SDK was installed and it refused by saying there was no drivers for the phone in there. When I set up the SDK program there is no option for "usb drivers" for me to even install..
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Try this.
10 characters.
Ok so I am a complete noob when it comes to this stuff I am very sorry but I will need a big walkthrough on this. OK I'll tell you where I'm at. I have a Captivate (ver. 2.1 Eclair) and I want to update to the latest version. I tried getting Keis and Keis Mini but neither of them recognize my device. I have a Mac computer and I installed the drivers for the phone but that did no good Also, I would like to root my phone to get non-market apps you know, but all the flashing and which program to use is very confusing to me. Just reading the forums trying to help myself just makes my head spin. Which do I use? Heimdall or Odin? What is the safest way to backup my phone incase anything goes wrong? I've been trying so hard for months now but I still can't get anything accomplished. I just need someone very experienced to teach me, a person who is almost completely new to all this tinkering and etc. Thank you guys so much! :laugh:
Can't help with Kies and updating. I've never had a Samsung phone. Sorry.
No need to root to get non-market apps. Go to: Settings > Security > Unknown sources and check 'Allow installation of non-market apps'. However, installing non-market apps can be risky and is NOT recommended.
Registered Linux user #266531. Android user since v1.0.
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Can't help with Kies and updating. I've never had a Samsung phone. Sorry.
No need to root to get non-market apps. Go to: Settings > Security > Unknown sources and check 'Allow installation of non-market apps'. However, installing non-market apps can be risky and is NOT recommended.
Registered Linux user #266531. Android user since v1.0.
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I can't select that option because it isn't available to be chosen. I must root it.
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I can't select that option because it isn't available to be chosen. I must root it.
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Are you sure? I've never seen a phone without that option. It might be in a different place in the settings than the one I gave.
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Crashdamage said:
Are you sure? I've never seen a phone without that option. It might be in a different place in the settings than the one I gave.
Registered Linux user #266531. Android user since v1.0.
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AT&T does remove that option. It was removed on my X10 too and there is a captivate section with all info.
Captivate: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=703
Crashdamage said:
Are you sure? I've never seen a phone without that option. It might be in a different place in the settings than the one I gave.
Registered Linux user #266531. Android user since v1.0.
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Yes he is sure. On the early android devices att removed the option. It was later added back on in an update. As stated above. Head over to the captivate section and you will find all your answers. Let me know if you don't and ill help the best I can.
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zelendel said:
Yes he is sure. On the early android devices att removed the option. It was later added back on in an update. As stated above. Head over to the captivate section and you will find all your answers. Let me know if you don't and ill help the best I can.
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Ok so I just rooted my phone. Not sure how I can tell I did, but I did. Since I have a Mac, many forums are no use to me. Especially when flashing (p.s. I don't even know what that means) I downloaded the latest Heimdall on my Mac, but I have no idea how it works, or how to get ROMS. What do kernals do because I see those are needed? Also, when I rooted my phone, aren't I able to install non-market apps onto my phone? Because I have a .apk file for the Amazon Market app on my internal SD card but it still doesn't allow me to install it.
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Ok so I just rooted my phone. Not sure how I can tell I did, but I did. Since I have a Mac, many forums are no use to me. Especially when flashing (p.s. I don't even know what that means) I downloaded the latest Heimdall on my Mac, but I have no idea how it works, or how to get ROMS. What do kernals do because I see those are needed? Also, when I rooted my phone, aren't I able to install non-market apps onto my phone? Because I have a .apk file for the Amazon Market app on my internal SD card but it still doesn't allow me to install it.
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Purchase these 2 app's from the market. You will first need to set up a Google account and a Google Pay account.
Mobile Odin
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SuperUser
You need to root the system before installing SU
My only concern is being able to instal non-market apps. How will I complete this using these two apps? Is there a specific ROM I need to download?
sabbytown1 said:
My only concern is being able to instal non-market apps. How will I complete this using these two apps? Is there a specific ROM I need to download?
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No, installing these 2 items will unlock the phone. It will also make it possible to install a rom whenever you want. Superuser access is what allows you to use the app's you are looking for. You need Odin installed to install superuser.
Also, I bought both of the apps. I couldn't get the update for Superuser Elite, and Mobile ODIN doesn't work because it says it can not find the Mobile ODIN package...
sabbytown1 said:
Also, I bought both of the apps. I couldn't get the update for Superuser Elite, and Mobile ODIN doesn't work because it says it can not find the Mobile ODIN package...
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did you read the directions on Google Play on how to install? Did you Google/YT using Mobile Odin on Captivate?
While we are all here to help, you need to do some legwork.
What have you learned in searching the I897 forum?
tomween1 said:
did you read the directions on Google Play on how to install? Did you Google/YT using Mobile Odin on Captivate?
While we are all here to help, you need to do some legwork.
What have you learned in searching the I897 forum?
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Ok so, I know the best way to be able to install non-market apps is by flashing the rom Cognition, but the download is no where to be found. but before I get the ROM I need Rom Manager right? I got it, but can't use it because I bought it without getting the free version first to get the actual files. Why? because I figured my device isn't rooted. If I were to root the Captivate, I would be able to download the free version. I tried rooting with the One-Click root that I downloaded, which is the only one that I saw on the wiki that actually seemed plausible. It doesn't work. It is supposed to push an update.zip to my SD card and it is there. but when I go into Recovery Mode, the option to choose the Update.zip isn't there. So know I know what I need to do.
1. Find a working rooting program for my mac
2. Get the free version for Rom Manager
3. Find a link and download the Cognition ROM
4. Flash the ROM onto my phone and then I should be able to install APK files from my SD card right?
ugh....
sabbytown1 said:
Ok so, I know the best way to be able to install non-market apps is by flashing the rom Cognition, but the download is no where to be found. but before I get the ROM I need Rom Manager right? I got it, but can't use it because I bought it without getting the free version first to get the actual files. Why? because I figured my device isn't rooted. If I were to root the Captivate, I would be able to download the free version. I tried rooting with the One-Click root that I downloaded, which is the only one that I saw on the wiki that actually seemed plausible. It doesn't work. It is supposed to push an update.zip to my SD card and it is there. but when I go into Recovery Mode, the option to choose the Update.zip isn't there. So know I know what I need to do.
1. Find a working rooting program for my mac
2. Get the free version for Rom Manager
3. Find a link and download the Cognition ROM
4. Flash the ROM onto my phone and then I should be able to install APK files from my SD card right?
ugh....
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Lets do 1 thing at a time.
uninstall the apps How to Once un-installed. reboot the phone.
Start again but install the free version first
What you need to do is go to the Captivate section of this forum and install Apex 12.5. It has a one click Heimdall package. Put your phone into download mode by holding down both volume buttons and plugging it into the computer. Follow the instructions and you are now running a custom ROM.
NightHawk877 said:
What you need to do is go to the Captivate section of this forum and install Apex 12.5. It has a one click Heimdall package. Put your phone into download mode by holding down both volume buttons and plugging it into the computer. Follow the instructions and you are now running a custom ROM.
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You're having him try something he is not looking for. He is simply trying to root the phone. The package from watsa/psych0phobia is #1- not I897 based and 2- a full rom. He does not want this
Please be careful in your recombination. Also once he has 10 posts he can ask further questions within that section.
@ the OP:
1st of all, why is it SO important to be able to install non-market apps?
2nd, no offense but you don't seem to have the knowledge or skill level you should really have before attempting to root your phone. So...
3rd, do some research & reading. Make sure you fully understand the terminology and procedure for rooting your specifc phone.
4th, have a recovery & rescue plan ready in.case things go wrong. And be willing to accept the consequences.
Registered Linux user #266531. Android user since v1.0.
I uninstalled everything I had related from trying to root. I couldn't get the free version. All I really need is something to root my phone via Mac.
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sabbytown1 said:
I uninstalled everything I had related from trying to root. I couldn't get the free version. All I really need is something to root my phone via Mac.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA
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Why do you need to root via mac, when it can be done directly from the phone?
Just say anything here now, and you will have 10 posts. You will then be able to post in the Development section of the I897
Make sure to check your PM's
I'm a newb, so don't jump at me if the solution is simple.
I tried rooting my Mini(GT-S5570)using different threads around here, and none worked. I have tried booting into recovery mode and installed 5 different root packages, none worked. Superoneclick is unavailable(none of the download links worked, also tried googling for it, nothing). I'd like a tutorial that can work, since i'll add some infos below why it might not work.
I am running an android version made for vodafone germany, with 4 system apps that are vodafone only and can't be deleted
maybe the version number can help :
PDA: S5570BUKT2
Phone: S5570XWKT8
CSC: S5570VCRKT2
Edit: I want to go with the "flash cwm with odin" then flash rom, but Odin doesn't pick up the phone in download mode, only in upload mode(when I boot with volume up+home+power button). I installed Kies for drivers, so I don't see how I could've gone wrong
Same issue with my friend anyone can resolved this kind of problem?
What recovery do you have? What error you get when you're trying to install the packages?
tomi456 said:
What recovery do you have? What error you get when you're trying to install the packages?
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I can't use any custom recovery since I don't have it rooted(it's the default one I think), and I am not getting any error whilist installing packages, the superuser icon is there, just it still says my phone doesn't have root permissions
If you have a 2.3.6 Android, then the attached files will root (pop) and unroot your phone to your will.
"Copy the pop_2.3.6.zip file to the root of your SD Card. Make sure you do not extract the contents of the zip file. Just copy the zip file to your SD Card.
Boot your phone into recovery. To do this, turn off your phone and press the OK button and Power button. You can release the buttons when you see the Samsung Logo to enter the recovery mode.
From the recovery menu, select “Apply update from SD Card” and choose the zip file you downloaded in step 1.
Flash the zip and then choose “Reboot system now” option.
After your phone reboots, check if you have the superuser Application installed"
Standard disclaimer applies I'm not responsible for anything anybody does using my advice (given to the best of my knowledge).
smolny2 said:
If you have a 2.3.6 Android, then the attached files will root (pop) and unroot your phone to your will.
"Copy the pop_2.3.6.zip file to the root of your SD Card. Make sure you do not extract the contents of the zip file. Just copy the zip file to your SD Card.
Boot your phone into recovery. To do this, turn off your phone and press the OK button and Power button. You can release the buttons when you see the Samsung Logo to enter the recovery mode.
From the recovery menu, select “Apply update from SD Card” and choose the zip file you downloaded in step 1.
Flash the zip and then choose “Reboot system now” option.
After your phone reboots, check if you have the superuser Application installed"
Standard disclaimer applies I'm not responsible for anything anybody does using my advice (given to the best of my knowledge).
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Oh well. Tried it, the superuser icon is there, but multiple root checker apps say it's still not rooted. Any other ideas?
Extra(edit): I have wiped any data, restoring my phone before doing the steps you listed above
S1ckMike said:
Oh well. Tried it, the superuser icon is there, but multiple root checker apps say it's still not rooted. Any other ideas?
Extra(edit): I have wiped any data, restoring my phone before doing the steps you listed above
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Open superuser app and let it update binaries. This needs internet access, but it SHOULD be fine after that.
Tapatalk-kal küldve az én GT-S5570-el
ast00 said:
Open superuser app and let it update binaries. This needs internet access, but it SHOULD be fine after that.
Tapatalk-kal küldve az én GT-S5570-el
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I updated it from market, it still doesn't work... But you said to update binaries, is there anything different than what I did?
Oh btw when I enter the superuser app it says below the "elite not installed-get elite" Su binary not found" I think that could be one of the reasons :s
S1ckMike said:
I updated it from market, it still doesn't work... But you said to update binaries, is there anything different than what I did?
Oh btw when I enter the superuser app it says below the "elite not installed-get elite" Su binary not found" I think that could be one of the reasons :s
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"After flashing the zip, make sure you connect to internet and then it'll ask you to update superuser app. Do so and then from within superuser app, update su binaries. Then, it should work without any issues"
Some more info:
http://androidsu.com/superuser/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.noshufou.android.su
I remember it was a bit tricky, still it seems your phone IS rooted (if you installed pop_2.3.6.zip from recovery). Updating supersu from market means the binary portion is not up-to-date, that's why IMO you have to update binaries. So click on the supersu icon, and find the "update binaries" option (needs internet connection).
If it fails, have a look at
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.noshufou.android.su.fixer
Don't remember if I needed it or not with the pop_2.3.6.zip.
BTW, if your Mini is out of warranty period, why don't you put something bloatware-free on it? (with Odin)
I can highly recommend TassNewExperience v.10.1 final2,
or newer CM 7.2 clean of 18.05.2014.
Both shall (most probably) fix your problem with rooting, both are fast, stable, battery-friendly.
smolny2 said:
BTW, if your Mini is out of warranty period, why don't you put something bloatware-free on it? (with Odin)
I can highly recommend TassNewExperience v.10.1 final2,
or newer CM 7.2 clean of 18.05.2014.
Both shall (most probably) fix your problem with rooting, both are fast, stable, battery-friendly.
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I want to go with odin, since I can't update the binary from updated app, and with original app verison an error(check for new version failed) prevents me from updating. Anyone can redirect me to a thread on how to flash with odin on my phone?
S1ckMike said:
I want to go with odin, since I can't update the binary from updated app, and with original app verison an error(check for new version failed) prevents me from updating. Anyone can redirect me to a thread on how to flash with odin on my phone?
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Is your phone sim-locked for Vodafone network? If yes, go to Vodafone to remove sim-lock prior to anything.
Here is a decent ROM to start with (I've been using it for half a year):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1648213
and there are working links in the second post, that I followed myself, explaining howto.
Here is a more detailed guide for flashing CWM recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342190
IMHO you should put unbranded, stock Gingerbread ROM in your Mini before trying to flash CWM recovery.
Remember to make a backup of your data, my recommendation:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.idea.backup.smscontacts
and perhaps a "dump" backup of the partition holding IMEI of your MIni (you have to look for details - keywords efs and/or stl5).
smolny2 said:
Is your phone sim-locked for Vodafone network? If yes, go to Vodafone to remove sim-lock prior to anything.
Here is a decent ROM to start with (I've been using it for half a year):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1648213
and there are working links in the second post, that I followed myself, explaining howto.
Here is a more detailed guide for flashing CWM recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342190
IMHO you should put unbranded, stock Gingerbread ROM in your Mini before trying to flash CWM recovery.
Remember to make a backup of your data, my recommendation:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.idea.backup.smscontacts
and perhaps a "dump" backup of the partition holding IMEI of your MIni (you have to look for details - keywords efs and/or stl5).
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I don't think it's simlocked, since I don't have a vodafone sim and it's working perfectly, and I'll try using your stuff
Edit: i've installed kies, and when I follow the guide, it doesn't get picked up by ODIN, and the pc says it malfunctioned(the usb device) Is this related to me having windows 8?
Edit 2: I would really like some real-time assistance through skype or whatnot, since i feel like i'm always doing something wrong...and when i'm following a guide, there's always a link that's broken, or a file that's outdated, not working etc
S1ckMike said:
I don't think it's simlocked, since I don't have a vodafone sim and it's working perfectly, and I'll try using your stuff
Edit: i've installed kies, and when I follow the guide, it doesn't get picked up by ODIN, and the pc says it malfunctioned(the usb device) Is this related to me having windows 8?
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I used Odin in WinXP, have no experience with Win8 - only heard most of the older stuff didn't work in Win8. So you might be pioneering Odin in Win8
But there is another way of rooting Android devices, introduced last year, with a universal chinese soft. As the soft is new, could work in Win8 (it only roots the devices). Don't remember the name of it, there was a lot of info on the Net in the second half of last year. It worked for some no-name tablets of my friends.
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I used Odin in WinXP, have no experience with Win8 - only heard most of the older stuff didn't work in Win8. So you might be pioneering Odin in Win8
But there is another way of rooting Android devices, introduced last year, with a universal chinese soft. As the soft is new, could work in Win8 (it only roots the devices). Don't remember the name of it, there was a lot of info on the Net in the second half of last year. It worked for some no-name tablets of my friends.
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That didn't quite help me ... I guess I'll use another pc, but I'll have to wait for the school year to finish...If you find any other method that might work, make sure to post it here
S1ckMike said:
That didn't quite help me ... I guess I'll use another pc, but I'll have to wait for the school year to finish...If you find any other method that might work, make sure to post it here
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Well, I'm not a pro in mobiles software - but having the info given in my last post, it's just a minute googling to find:
http://www.3ptechies.com/mobile/android/vroot-rooting-method-for-android.html
http://www.mgyun.com/en/GetVRoot
The orig. soft is in chinese, but used it without problems "the monkey way".
That gives you root - and nothing more (but should be enough to play with Android till the end of school
No help with Odin in Win8, sorry.
smolny2 said:
Well, I'm not a pro in mobiles software - but having the info given in my last post, it's just a minute googling to find:
http://www.3ptechies.com/mobile/android/vroot-rooting-method-for-android.html
http://www.mgyun.com/en/GetVRoot
The orig. soft is in chinese, but used it without problems "the monkey way".
That gives you root - and nothing more (but should be enough to play with Android till the end of school
No help with Odin in Win8, sorry.
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Tried Vroot, says "root failed".
-_-......................................OH COME ON how can my phone be unbreakable like that? srsly it's starting to really piss me off
S1ckMike said:
Tried Vroot, says "root failed".
-_-......................................OH COME ON how can my phone be unbreakable like that? srsly it's starting to really piss me off
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Weird. Perhaps (as above) it is in fact rooted. Try to unroot with unroot zip, and give a chance vroot again?
Unless there are some more residuals of previous attempts of rooting, and they interfere? Back to factory settings after unroot.
Or check which superuser u have on your Mini, and put binaries as zip from recovery? as in the first comment here:
http://androidsu.com/superuser/
And last but not least, it shouldn't be too difficult to put some old WinXP on an old disk/partition just to use Odin. And taking into account your first post "I tried rooting my Mini(GT-S5570)using different threads around here, and none worked", perhaps your Mini is so messed up that Odin is your only option?
Anyway, it's a mystery, and would really appreciate if you keep us informed of the progress.
smolny2 said:
Weird. Perhaps (as above) it is in fact rooted. Try to unroot with unroot zip, and give a chance vroot again?
Unless there are some more residuals of previous attempts of rooting, and they interfere? Back to factory settings after unroot.
Or check which superuser u have on your Mini, and put binaries as zip from recovery? as in the first comment here:
http://androidsu.com/superuser/
And last but not least, it shouldn't be too difficult to put some old WinXP on an old disk/partition just to use Odin. And taking into account your first post "I tried rooting my Mini(GT-S5570)using different threads around here, and none worked", perhaps your Mini is so messed up that Odin is your only option?
Anyway, it's a mystery, and would really appreciate if you keep us informed of the progress.
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I installed kies for drivers and the phone still doesn't get picked up by odin... I would've gone with odin a long time ago if it worked...I'll try on another pc... Wish me luck
SRS One Click Root for Android
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SRS One Click Root for Android
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Thanks bud but it gets stuck at "10:08:57 - Getting OffSets.. : 0x8003 0x8005 (False)"