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Ok, so i managed to loose my phone over the weekend at V in Staffordshire. So there are 2 outcomes to this.
1) The phone got killed as it fell out of my pocket, and then probably got stamped on a few times by people not knowing its there.
2) Someone has found it but not turned it over to lost property. They arent gonna be able to do much with it as it has a flat battery and has now been IMEI blacklisted and the SIM locked.
Thank god for insurance that what I say! However, I wish i had configured RTConfig properly and then I would have atleast got some info from the device if anyone swaps out the sim.
What tends to happen to these phones even though they are IMEI blocked?
Some police forces will recover your phone when the IMEI is blacklisted by triangulating the position.
I have heard about this in the UK on some show and here in romania i know they recover stolen phones because one of my friends got his N95 back.
So how i dont think the police are going to raid a house just to get the phone back.
When you unlock these things so that you can put custom roms on them, does this sim unlock the phone?
I know there are methods available now to sim unlock, but i wasnt sure if the hardspl thing did it as well?
Some little blighter has got all my contacts and calender events, along with some cracking photos of V! That is if the phone wasnt destroyed in the mosh pit.
password on
hope you had that switched on
mine come on at 5 mins
Nope, i dont tend to have the password on otherwise i cant invoke a call from my bluetooth headset, unless that has changed.
or they might find a way to change the imei.
Well if they manage to do that, then kudos to the criminal activity. That or it gets flogged to some terrorist.
buciuman said:
Some police forces will recover your phone when the IMEI is blacklisted by triangulating the position.
I have heard about this in the UK on some show and here in romania i know they recover stolen phones because one of my friends got his N95 back.
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Get real my friend .... no police force will recover the phone...by triangulation.
Yes , triangulation can be done, but for sure no police man will ever hunt down the user of the stolen phone.
By now the pohne has alredy been sold to un unsuspecting user...
did you also wear your best clothes to V as well
phone insurrance? how is that ? i mean, do they give you another phone or the ammount of money youn spent on the phone ?
have to look around too for something like this cause a phone this expensive is not worth loosing over an accident like yours
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did you also wear your best clothes to V as well
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Haha, nope, luckily! Got right muddy though! I wouldnt be suprised if the phone got killed by all the mud that would have been stamped into it! lol
iliescu902 said:
phone insurrance? how is that ? i mean, do they give you another phone or the ammount of money youn spent on the phone ?
have to look around too for something like this cause a phone this expensive is not worth loosing over an accident like yours
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Yep, I get phone insurance with my bank account. I have to pay £30 excess though when I make a sucessful claim. The new Sim from T-Mob cost me £10 however that can be claimed back as well. They then send you the same phone back (probably a refurb) or a same spec/better phone if they can't get like for like. That one should be interesting as I will be sure to print the specs of for the Diamond and make sure its either the same or better.
iliescu902 said:
phone insurrance? how is that ? i mean, do they give you another phone or the ammount of money youn spent on the phone ?
have to look around too for something like this cause a phone this expensive is not worth loosing over an accident like yours
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Mine is covered by Orange Care anywhere in the world for £5 per month for loss, damage etc, I think now they charge an admin fee .
As for IMEI ~ these can be changed but is against the law, if not changed then the phone is only IMEI blocked in this country (AFAIK) unless agreements have been arranged with other conutries by now?
Shame about your loss of phone though
I know your pain, mine was stolen a few weeks ago. Bought a new one, but I didn't have insurance. I've bought Sprite Terminator now, gave my girlfriend the phone and told her to go shopping or something.
She was surprised when she found me waiting for her .
Great tracking software .
What the! Ok, the insurance company told me they cant get hold of a compact iv so they have offered me the unbranded version. I want the original one as tmob has nice rounded corners!
Gash!
Hi people I just bought an used Samsung Galaxy S, and I'm worried about the seller, the item works perfectly but I mostly bought it to use it as a game console, means I wont be using it as a cellphone of have a SIM card on it, it's just for WIFI navigation, to listen music, etc.
Since I (We) can't trust people over the internet, the seller will probably will call his/her old cellphone company and ask to block the cellphone by the IMEI, what would happen if I change the current IMEI to "000..000" or any other random number, will the cellphone work even if the seller told his/her company to block the cellphone, as I said before i just will use it for entertainment, not for making calls so it wont be connected to the network.
I'm asking this because my sister bought a cellphone 1 year ago and it was working as usual for 2 weeks or so then it got blocked by the company because the seller blocked the cellphone by IMEI on his cellphone company.
Thanks in advance for any kind of help.
Changing your IMEI is illegal.
If you're worried about the seller, why in the world did you buy it? Seriously.
Maybe the seller didn't contact the carrier about the IMEI, but the person who it was stolen from did. Maybe something to think about.
Like Electrotune said changing the IMEI is illegal (and I doubt anyone would help you with this).
Also you have to understand the IMEI is not just a text file where you change you can probably corrupt it but not change it.
By the way why would the seller do this? Did you buy it from ebay or from someone on the street? There is always some sort of protection if you bought it from ebay for example or used your credit card.
I think you are going the hard way about this....
K.
Why on earth would the seller report the phone stolen after he voluntarily sold it to you? Unless.... the seller stole the phone and you feel the price was so good because of it. And you think the person who was robbed of his phone will report it stolen.
Which means you knowingly bought a stolen phone. And why would you buy a 580 dollar smartphone to use ONLY as a gaming system? There arent that many awesome games for Android.
So who cares if the IMEI is blocked for you stolen phone. If your not going to put a sim in it and use it as a phone it wont matter. Keep enjoying your stolen phone!
I bought several used phones in my life, including galaxy s and my imei was never blocked. I think they do it only when the phone is reported stolen. Why would the seller do that? And even if he did, you go to your network operator and show him the papers that you bought the phone legally.
Wouldn't a tegra2 tablet be much better for gaming? Or even an iPod Touch? There are better games for iOs and an iPod Touch would be cheaper...
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I think the TS is asking for a "how-to" to circumvent theft reporting. This topic should be closed.
radekgers said:
I bought several used phones in my life, including galaxy s and my imei was never blocked. I think they do it only when the phone is reported stolen. Why would the seller do that? And even if he did, you go to your network operator and show him the papers that you bought the phone legally.
Wouldn't a tegra2 tablet be much better for gaming? Or even an iPod Touch? There are better games for iOs and an iPod Touch would be cheaper...
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Actually it happens quite a lot. They buy on contract, sell the phone for a couple of hundred just low enough to make it sweet but not to low to arouse suspicion and then state a non recoverable (non PayPal) payment method. It is a well known scam. Some also do it o
utr of sheer malice for not getting the price they wanted.
The above comment still applies though in the first instance as doing this is fraud and theft from the supplier.
Sheer malice aside, why people do it? They get some kind of insurance money or something? Aren't they afraid that the buyer may make some kind of problems? Like go to the police.
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First of all, changing imei isn't illegal everywhere, but to answer you question if the operator blocks ypur imei you will be able to use it as a game console, as they pnly block the network functions (and not the phone)
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Hmmm. I smell horse processed oats in this "use it for gaming" pile...
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ManuCasas said:
Hi people I just bought an used Samsung Galaxy S, and I'm worried about the seller, the item works perfectly but I mostly bought it to use it as a game console, means I wont be using it as a cellphone of have a SIM card on it, it's just for WIFI navigation, to listen music, etc.
Since I (We) can't trust people over the internet, the seller will probably will call his/her old cellphone company and ask to block the cellphone by the IMEI, what would happen if I change the current IMEI to "000..000" or any other random number, will the cellphone work even if the seller told his/her company to block the cellphone, as I said before i just will use it for entertainment, not for making calls so it wont be connected to the network.
I'm asking this because my sister bought a cellphone 1 year ago and it was working as usual for 2 weeks or so then it got blocked by the company because the seller blocked the cellphone by IMEI on his cellphone company.
Thanks in advance for any kind of help.
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hum weird, weird, wierd..... why would you care changing the imei anyway?, if the provider lock it, as you said you won't use the phone part.
Or maybe, you simply try to do a makeup of a stollen phone.... (...since you don't trust the seller, why should i/we trust you?...hum??? fishy anyway)
In all case it's illegal.
I own a Samsung. Gs myself from my carrier its clearly not stolen but I must admit I would like to know this myself
Although I want to know purely out of curiousity and in the case my phone got stolen
In summary it can be done
Is it an easy process because I bloody well hope not
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If you just wanted something for gaming, why not buy an iPod touch or something? or a PSP Go or w/e
Why indeed!
People are always asking why one would want to change her IMEI other than for illegal reasons. I've got a perfectly legal reason that I share with a rapidly increasing number of others. I changed carriers and want to sell my old phone. I have no idea who will buy it or for what purpose they will use it. Doesn't it seem obvious that I would be utterly foolish to leave anything on that phone that could be traced back to me?
If I can't remove its past link to me I simply will not be able sell that phone without the potential of unthinkable liability (indefinite imprisonment without any due process in the U.S. were it used by the buyer for the purpose of terror.) That currently indelible link to me is its IMEI!
Or you could just get a receipt.......
To remember the most important thing: Your Samsung service center might not accept your phone for repairing. e.g. My Galaxy Tab which has replaced motherboard got bricked. The helper in Hong Kong required a proof that why the IMEI got changed. Fortunately I brought my repair description from another Samsung service center.
Yesterday I bought a Note 5 from a guy including the original package and the receipt. I realised that it has this Device Protection triggered (the new feature on lollipop which locks the phone when the phone is factory reset while still having the lock screen enabled and requires the original owner to log in with his google account). I asked him to meet me again for him to log in which he refused as he thinks it is unnecessary and now he is not responding since. So I'm just stuck here with the brand new locked device. Anyone know what I can do? Can it be unlocked via warranty as I have the original receipt? Thanks
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Can it be unlocked via warranty as I have the original receipt? Thanks
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Contact Samsung to find out. Warranties and laws regarding them are different in every country. I don't think anyone here will be able (or willing) to help. We have no way to know if you paid for the device, paid for a stolen device, or stole it yourself. (I'm not accusing you of anything - just pointing out that folks here on xda developers have no way to know.)
Good luck.
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Contact Samsung to find out. Warranties and laws regarding them are different in every country. I don't think anyone here will be able (or willing) to help. We have no way to know if you paid for the device, paid for a stolen device, or stole it yourself. (I'm not accusing you of anything - just pointing out that folks here on xda developers have no way to know.)
Good luck.
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Nono I totally understand! I will provide photos of the ad/conversation/receipt anything if i need haha
I did call Samsung/google yesterday but they were not too sure and just suggested to send it - which makes me a bit worried that if it cannot get it done which can be a waste of money and time.. oh well!
I'm posting to see if anyone went through the same situation!
Thanks for your reply!!!
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Nono I totally understand! I will provide photos of the ad/conversation/receipt anything if i need haha
I did call Samsung/google yesterday but they were not too sure and just suggested to send it - which makes me a bit worried that if it cannot get it done which can be a waste of money and time.. oh well!
I'm posting to see if anyone went through the same situation!
Thanks for your reply!!!
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Samsung won't be able to do anything about it. They have nothing to do with Android's device protection. Google support is probably your only solution, and you'll need to keep at it until you get directed towards somebody who does know. I'm not sure they'll be able to help you, but apart from convincing the guy you bought it from to meet again, it's all you can do.
Honestly, you'll probably have an easier time convincing the guy to unlock it than convincing Google support you actually purchased the phone.
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Yesterday I bought a Note 5 from a guy including the original package and the receipt. I realised that it has this Device Protection triggered (the new feature on lollipop which locks the phone when the phone is factory reset while still having the lock screen enabled and requires the original owner to log in with his google account). I asked him to meet me again for him to log in which he refused as he thinks it is unnecessary and now he is not responding since. So I'm just stuck here with the brand new locked device. Anyone know what I can do? Can it be unlocked via warranty as I have the original receipt? Thanks
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hi,
just a few pointers to consider....original receipt?
from Samsung or cellphone shop /provider
or from person you bought it from ... or who ?
Why don't you approach them.. for assistance ?
Another point, that warranty that you got, is it "transferable"...? to a 3rd party.(in your case)
In my country and my experience you get very few companies. /shops that would accept /honor, warranty if sold to 3rd-party?.(resold on the sidelines)
I found that even when a customer bought device cash, the company (seller) normally has some record of the original customer and in some cases you have to register device to be entitled to be covered re warranty. It might be different where you are.. i don't know.. i mention it in my post that you can consider it. If not applicable, plse ignore above.
good luck
Hey guys!! Thanks for the replys
After going thru all the possible places (Samsung, google, retail shop the phone was bought from), the only answer is to reach the seller no matter what...
I nagged my seller and explained every single part of the problem and then he finally decided to meet me and log in for me which he did!
However, I seriously feel that Google has to do somethimg about this device protection. For example, allowing the seller to generate one time code for the buyer to log in when they can't meet and don't want to dhare the password, or something that seller can disable this on a computer.. just something.
Well I hope my case gave you some heads up
When selling/buying an Android higher than 5.1, always check the device protection.
If youre a seller, factory reset after disabling the lock screen!
Cheers guys
How did you buy it and pay for it? eBay and Paypal, then just raise a dispute. The £500 or so blocked funds on his account should wake him up. At least it's sorted now.
I typed "##786# " in dialer and it went straight to rtn hidden screen.
It shows Reverse logistic Support.
Life calls -3342 calls
Life timer -9404 minutes
Reconditioning astatus - No
and some other infos.
what it is. plz help.
is my phone refurbished or new. Is it has been used to call 3342 calls.
Your phone is either refurbished, or it was in really good condition when it was returned.
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How did you acquire the phone to begin with?
bought it from ebay. He told me its a sprint unlocked phone but new.
maxorpio said:
bought it from ebay. He told me its a sprint unlocked phone but new.
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I would only expect a refurbished phone from someone like Asurion (via insurance claim). It's most definitely used, as you've already confirmed.
now i cant to anything hope its at least only used not a fake chinese one.
maxorpio said:
now i cant to anything hope its at least only used not a fake chinese one.
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You can make a PayPal claim, and show proof with screenshots, and how it's different from advertised listing. Many countries are covered by Consumer Protection.
Check the IMEI (in any online website) it will show the device details.
Hi guys,
I bought an used note 8 and used for 3 months, then "phone not allowed" started to show up in the top corner.
After I went to sprint store and they ran the imei #, they said this device is locked by sprint because it's reported stolen or lost and there is nothing we can do :crying:
Any help to save my money please?
Thank You
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kahtan said:
Hi guys,
I bought an used note 8 and used for 3 months, then "phone not allowed" started to show up in the top corner.
After I went to sprint store and they ran the imei #, they said this device is locked by sprint because it's reported stolen or lost and there is nothing we can do :crying:
Any help to save my money please?
Thank You
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You need to either get a hold of whoever you bought it from or there's not going to be anything that anyone can do about it because whoever sold you the phone waited for 3 months after you got it and then they reported it stolen and the reason they do that sh¡t is because they'll be given another phone for free usually or a small fee and then they'll turn around and do the same thing all over again! That's why you don't buy from people unless they're willing to meet you in the carriers local store that way they'll know for sure that you bought it and the person won't be able to do that.. If you can't get your money back or find the person you bought it from then you'll have to accept it as a lesson learned and don't do that again..
kahtan said:
Hi guys,
I bought an used note 8 and used for 3 months, then "phone not allowed" started to show up in the top corner.
After I went to sprint store and they ran the imei #, they said this device is locked by sprint because it's reported stolen or lost and there is nothing we can do :crying:
Any help to save my money please?
Thank You
looking forward
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there are a great deal of sites that can fix a blacklisted IMEI for a fee. Usually around $35 to $50 or so. The blacklist fix does work when obtained from reputable sites. Double edged sword there tho, youre needing a "reputable" site to do "not reputable" stuff for you.
MrMike2182 said:
You need to either get a hold of whoever you bought it from or there's not going to be anything that anyone can do about it because whoever sold you the phone waited for 3 months after you got it and then they reported it stolen and the reason they do that sh¡t is because they'll be given another phone for free usually or a small fee and then they'll turn around and do the same thing all over again! That's why you don't buy from people unless they're willing to meet you in the carriers local store that way they'll know for sure that you bought it and the person won't be able to do that.. If you can't get your money back or find the person you bought it from then you'll have to accept it as a lesson learned and don't do that again..
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some of what you said is right. Always get the IMEI from the seller and check it yourself. Do not believe what the seller tells you. Its actually very fast and easy to check for blacklisting. Even at the time of purchase, boot up the phone and triple check the IMEI and once youve done that and purchased the phone, thats pretty much all you can do. Also make sure that its not currently attached to an account. And when you buy it, you can dial the *86 (i think thats the star key combo to get customer service) and verify that the phone doesnt have a balance on it. Of course, all of this is best if done in person for obvious reasons.
youdoofus said:
there are a great deal of sites that can fix a blacklisted IMEI for a fee. Usually around $35 to $50 or so. The blacklist fix does work when obtained from reputable sites. Double edged sword there tho, youre needing a "reputable" site to do "not reputable" stuff for you.
some of what you said is right. Always get the IMEI from the seller and check it yourself. Do not believe what the seller tells you. Its actually very fast and easy to check for blacklisting. Even at the time of purchase, boot up the phone and triple check the IMEI and once youve done that and purchased the phone, thats pretty much all you can do. Also make sure that its not currently attached to an account. And when you buy it, you can dial the *86 (i think thats the star key combo to get customer service) and verify that the phone doesnt have a balance on it. Of course, all of this is best if done in person for obvious reasons.
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Yeah I understand the IMEI thing but the IMEI will come back clear in the beginning because the person who sold the phone didn't report it stolen right away they purposely wait 3 months that way whoever they sold it to is long gone and can't prove they bought it from them so it gets black listed and then the seller gets a new phone and the buyer has a paperweight if they can't get it off the blacklist.
MrMike2182 said:
Yeah I understand the IMEI thing but the IMEI will come back clear in the beginning because the person who sold the phone didn't report it stolen right away they purposely wait 3 months that way whoever they sold it to is long gone and can't prove they bought it from them so it gets black listed and then the seller gets a new phone and the buyer has a paperweight if they can't get it off the blacklist.
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reason #732,155,289,001,914 why i hate humans detailed in this gentleman's post above. Unscrupulous people trying to pawn their bullshyte off on other people for their own gain and waiting 3 months to intentionally f*ck a person out of their hard earned money by putting a phone up on offer and letting a person buy it in good faith and letting them use it happily for 3 months then eff the buyer right in the a by reporting it stolen for their own pathetic gain
I was totally unaware that this could happen.
Thanks for the valuable information. If you all could be so kind to give me your opinion. I was considering buying a phone from ebay advanced as having a. clean IMEI with 30 day free returns. Therfore, am I correct in assuming that the prof of purchase from PayPal and ebay will prevent a seller from blacklisting imy phone in the future? Will, the carrier accept this as prof of ownership? Thank you.
Ps. Sorry to here about your phone