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DivX/GPU on the N1?

Hey so I've noticed the new Samsung phone can decode DivX video..AND has a much faster GPU chip than the N1...
According to Samsung’s press release as well as Android and Me, the Samsung Galaxy S’ “Hummingbird” A8 chip will be able to process around 90 million triangle per second. That is compared to the Moto DROID’s 7 mill tri/sec, the Nexus One’s 22 million tri/sec, and the iPhone 3G S’ 28 million tri/sec.
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So I have two questions...
When the Samsung is released, as it is running the android platform, will the ability to decode the DivX and 720p video be ported over to the N1? (or is the faster GPU req. to do this?)
Is the faster GPU a big deal/Will us N1 owners miss out?
I just spent all my money on 'my precious'.. it sucks to see faster, better stuff coming out already... stupid rapid moving technology!

I have no idea if its port-able, but Google said they would make DIVX support.
I wouldn't want the Samgung or HTC EVO 4G for everyday use. a 4.3" screen seems pretty big, a little too big for a phone. It is more like a portable movie player like an Archos tablet.
Happy with my N1.

LevitateJay said:
So I have two questions...
When the Samsung is released, as it is running the android platform, will the ability to decode the DivX and 720p video be ported over to the N1? (or is the faster GPU req. to do this?)
Is the faster GPU a big deal/Will us N1 owners miss out?
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It will probably be ported over, but nothing is certain. A faster GPU is not required but if the snapdragon cannot decode the codec natively there is little that can be done
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LevitateJay said:
I just spent all my money on 'my precious'.. it sucks to see faster, better stuff coming out already... stupid rapid moving technology!
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Get used to it. In the smartphone arena this has been, and for the foreseeable future will be, the case.

LevitateJay said:
I just spent all my money on 'my precious'.. it sucks to see faster, better stuff coming out already...
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It's like everything else in life:
Woman
Cars
Gadgets
Always something newer and better you're going to want to bang or buy.

|mpulse said:
It's like everything else in life:
Woman
Cars
Gadgets
Always something newer and better you're going to want to bang or buy.
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Well said!

Thoughts on DELL XPS M1340?

Looking to get DELL XPS M1340
Whats your thoughts on it?
Hardware looks good and its quite nice to look at.

khsbenny said:
Looking to get DELL XPS M1340
Whats your thoughts on it?
Hardware looks good and its quite nice to look at.
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I personally will not buy "anything" with name DELL attached to it...It's like buying a Yugo (obscure reeference)

Thats my one grudge with it. Its a Dell.
But look at it! Its hard to say no, its a completely different laptop from the usual Dells!

khsbenny said:
Thats my one grudge with it. Its a Dell.
But look at it! Its hard to say no, its a completely different laptop from the usual Dells!
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read them and weep....besides this issue, it "looks" good
From:
http://apcmag.com/australian-exclusive-dells-xps-m1340.htm
About that misleading graphics hardware...
What’s most deceiving about this machine, however, is the NVIDIA GeForce 9500M GE with its “Hybrid SLI” technology. This sounds far more impressive than it really is. Hybrid SLI does, as it says, offer the ability to boost performance or reduce power consumption where needed. However, it’s not a gamer’s card, even if it will run games.
What the 9500M GE really is, is a dedicated 9200m GS plus an integrated 9400m which ultimately offer a mere 24 shaders, with a 64-bit memory bus. Some games that offer multi-GPU benefits may garner a performance boost, but overall it’s only going to be good for DirectX 9 games in medium to low settings.
We weren’t able to run 3DMark Vantage as it requires a minimum resolution of 1280x1024, but our 3DMark 2006 score of 3586 isn’t particularly impressive. We were able to get Left 4 Dead, which is built using the Half-Life 2 (Episode 2) engine, running at medium settings, but still didn’t get particularly great frame rates, even if it was playable.

That is a little misleading indeed! But I wont be doing any intensive gaming on it... I have an xbox for that
It'll be used for casual gaming, multimedia playback and eventually some compiling when I finally learn some code!

khsbenny said:
That is a little misleading indeed! But I wont be doing any intensive gaming on it... I have an xbox for that
It'll be used for casual gaming, multimedia playback and eventually some compiling when I finally learn some code!
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This is interesting
http://reviews.cnet.com/best-laptops/
one of the most famous review websites in the web does not even DELL not even once
Check them out...I use the Toshiba and...it's great!!

if i were you for my personal and entertainment needs i would go for a Hp and for work/business i would go for a dell

It looks lyk the Dell Studio 1558.
But i dunno what the specs are. only looked at the images

Well, I've gone out and ordered it.
I would have got a HP, but my last one's motherboard got fried and they wouldn't do anything about it. It was out of warranty but it was a common fault like 100+ cases of the same thing. I even spent £10 trying to repair it!
Should be here next week, Ill post my first thoughts about it

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Well, I've gone out and ordered it.
I would have got a HP, but my last one's motherboard got fried and they wouldn't do anything about it. It was out of warranty but it was a common fault like 100+ cases of the same thing. I even spent £10 trying to repair it!
Should be here next week, Ill post my first thoughts about it
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see you then!!

I have faith in Dell as they have been good to me (with the exception of their power adapter exclusivity). I wouldn't listen to CNET as they are Apple-ass-lickers for the most part. They listed a Gateway on there and I'd never touch a Gateway again based on personal experience.

Any problems with call of duty black ops for pc?

I've got mw and mw2 for pc and love the playability. I haven't noticed any bugs in them. I really want to get the pc version of black ops but am very worried since it's such a fast port. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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none other than that fact that it refuses to start on single core computers (probably got good money from intel and amd)
and dont even start with that "who has single core anyway ?"
same game engine as mw2 and mw2 ran on max detail on a 2000mhz amd , also both games look like puke in todays standards
they shall burn in hell for this

Zombie mod is still pretty buggy because it uses the crappy match making system from MW2 but the muliplayer seems to use cod4's server browser. Overall there are some bugs in it. I paid full price and wish i hadn't it's not worth it. it's not even worth paying the standard PC game price of £30. Wait till it hits half price before you buy it by then all the problems with performance, crashing, poor match making etc should be fixed.
P.S i have owned all of the COD games at one point or another. I'm a massive gamer and have been since my teens. It's just a shame activision like money, stock prices and screwing people becuase if they had left IW to do their thing MW2 and BO would have been way more enjoyable.
p.p.s on second thought you'd be better off getting MOH and then waiting for crysis 2

Oooooooooooh man I love the Crysis series, although I expected more out of Warhead. Have you played any of the Splinter Cells? I haven't played the recent one.
I noticed Infinity Ward didn't do black ops. Why did they get dropped?
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souljaboy said:
none other than that fact that it refuses to start on single core computers (probably got good money from intel and amd)
and dont even start with that "who has single core anyway ?"
same game engine as mw2 and mw2 ran on max detail on a 2000mhz amd , also both games look like puke in todays standards
they shall burn in hell for this
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wrong wrONG WRONG.
MW2 and BO are two diff studios producing the games, therefor CANNOT be based off of the same engine (Treyarch VS IW). If you are trying to game on a single core computer, GTFO the gaming community and go back under that rock you have been hiding under for the last 5 years. Both games look great pent up against todays current standards for online FPS games. MAX detail && MAX AA/AF @ 1920x1080 and the game looks great.
befor you go flaming a game because you cant afford a computer good enough to play it.. might wanna do some research, or actually play the game. KTHXBAI

ArabianRATA said:
I've got mw and mw2 for pc and love the playability. I haven't noticed any bugs in them. I really want to get the pc version of black ops but am very worried since it's such a fast port. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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There are still alot of bugs in the game. One of the few ive noticed is random client crashes/freezes... This happens on both my system and my roommates system. Both of our computers are mid/high end gaming machines and are pretty closely spec'd with a few brand differences. Another is some server side issues with random crashes/server reboots. Ive owned a BO server for almost 2 months now and its a knows issue that Treyarch/Gameservers.com are trying to work out(this happens on both gameservers.com servers and official treyarch servers).
Another bug. Say you purchase the Aug + 4 attachments. $2000(for aug) $7000(for attachments). When you prestige, the game will charge you $9000 for the aug and make you purchase the attachments all over again. IDK if this is a wide spread problem, but thats how it is for me... of course i dont mine, i play alot of wager matches or clan matches and have over $100k credits.
ArabianRATA said:
Oooooooooooh man I love the Crysis series, although I expected more out of Warhead. Have you played any of the Splinter Cells? I haven't played the recent one.
I noticed Infinity Ward didn't do black ops. Why did they get dropped?
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Infinity Ward didnt make BO because they were promised alot as a studio for MW2 but Activision didnt follow through with the promises. IW refused to make BO. Rumor has it that they are working on a title all on their own thats supposed to give the CoD series a run for its money.
Hope this information helps.

jeallen0 said:
Infinity Ward didnt make BO because they were promised alot as a studio for MW2 but Activision didnt follow through with the promises. IW refused to make BO. Rumor has it that they are working on a title all on their own thats supposed to give the CoD series a run for its money.
Hope this information helps.
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Well my information is pretty much that except for a couple of differences. My understanding is that the 2 founders of infinity ward now have a new studio that works with EA and that half of the original IW staff quit or were fired when activision fired West and Zampella. IW didn't refuse to work with treyarch, they can't because IW is owned by activision and has been for a while. The refusal came from the founders who still own the rights to the COD brand and a few of the underlying technologies. Unfortunately this doesn't include the engines. BO does use the MW2 engine for the single player. Infact the MW2 engine is almost identical to the engine used in COD4 with the only major difference being in the multiplayer anti cheat change to VAC and the matchmaking.
In BO's multiplayer this is evident if you compare the server browser to the the one included in COD4. It has pretty much the same look and feel and the big give away is the bug that prevents you clicking on a listed entry until about 10 seconds after a refresh start. That bug is present in COD4.
Games from different developers can use the same engine. For example, the MOH single player uses the Unreal engine iirc (the multiplayer was made by Dice and so frostbite and that's also why the multiplayer looks a lot better than the campaign) and i've lost count of the amount of games that used the various quake engines. It's all a matter of licencing

M3PH said:
Games from different developers can use the same engine. For example, the MOH single player uses the Unreal engine iirc (the multiplayer was made by Dice and so frostbite and that's also why the multiplayer looks a lot better than the campaign) and i've lost count of the amount of games that used the various quake engines. It's all a matter of licencing
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This is true for the most part. BO is using a deviation of the engine used in WaW. its pretty obvious in gameplay. if you look at the code for the COD4 and MW2 engine, they are basically the same thing(with a few tweaks in gameplay and physics), but the engine running WaW and BO are pretty different(but similar to eachother in code style).

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This is true for the most part. BO is using a deviation of the engine used in WaW. its pretty obvious in gameplay. if you look at the code for the COD4 and MW2 engine, they are basically the same thing(with a few tweaks in gameplay and physics), but the engine running WaW and BO are pretty different(but similar to each other in code style).
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The engine in WaW is as little as makes no difference identical to the COD4 engine. There has been very little evolution on it. Please bear in mind that between cod2 and cod4 (cod3 was another treyarch game and didn't feature on the PC) there was something like a 4 year gap. That gap was because IW were building the COD4 engine from the ground up. The only reason we have had a cod game every year since is that Activision (who own both treyarch and IW) are more focused on making money and not innovation. Hence no really engine improvements.
Hell, i just read an article that suggests that the real reason west and zampella were fired wasn't over bonus' but over the proposal from activision to charge a monthly subscription for the MP. It also says that Activision have brought in a third studio to help develop future releases. This only means one thing. More releases per year = more money.
Personally, after playing all (except cod3 coz I'm a PC gamer) of the cod games and then seeing the lacklustre attempt that is black ops I'm done with cod. It's been turned from a ground breaking and enthralling first person shooter into a way of conning uneducated teenagers out of their parents money.

It's too bad.. I really enjoyed WaW and COD MW2
Now I'm getting Black Ops and your all saying it's junk. At least I got it used for $35.00 bones.
And I've moved to console as it seems a lil' bit slower paced then the PC Based version.

Infinity Ward didnt make BO because they were promised alot as a studio for MW2 but Activision didnt follow through with the promises. IW refused to make BO. Rumor has it that they are working on a title all on their own thats supposed to give the CoD series a run for its money.
Hope this information helps.
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Thanks to all, very informative! I hate to hear all the negativity surrounding black ops. I'm a console gamer to an extent but I enjoy pc gaming alot more. I guess I will wait till it drops in price before
I jump on it.
I never played multiplayer on the pc versions, I will have to check it out.
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avgjoegeek said:
It's too bad.. I really enjoyed WaW and COD MW2
Now I'm getting Black Ops and your all saying it's junk. At least I got it used for $35.00 bones.
And I've moved to console as it seems a lil' bit slower paced then the PC Based version.
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lol, its not ALL junk, imho i like the subtle improvements over MW2... RCXD is fun, and the wager matches are EPIC. SAS and SHP are my fav wager types. console is a bit slower paced but thats because its been dumbed down for controller use rather than a mouse and keyboard. imho its just not the same on console.

jeallen0 said:
befor you go flaming a game because you cant afford a computer good enough to play it.. might wanna do some research, or actually play the game. KTHXBAI
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noob my comp would prolly **** on urs , game requrements are one thing and making code to force users to buy new stuff even if the game would run without is called fraud and ripoff , glad i pirated this pos game

souljaboy said:
noob my comp would prolly **** on urs , game requrements are one thing and making code to force users to buy new stuff even if the game would run without is called fraud and ripoff , glad i pirated this pos game
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ohh i scurred, whats your specs mr big****?
You do realize that if they coded it to run on a single core pos machine that the game would look like ****, right?

yea sure , a 1.6ghz hyperthreaded atom is much faster than a 3.4ghz single isnt it , too bad cod will load up on the atom and not the other one that could play it ... but why am i wasting my words ...

Children, children, children! can we please stop the bickering and trolling and get back on topic?
The reason there is a core number restriction isn't because they are trying to rip you off its because the game engine needs the processing power. The MW engine doesn't rely entirely on the graphics card to run the math calculations required to draw the physics objects. If it did everyone would need sli or crossfire setups with 3 or 4 cards. So the restriction is actually doing us a favour because dual core cpu's are cheaper than 4 gtx580's hell a dual core cpu is cheaper than just one gtx580.
End of the day writing code to stop you playing a game when your pc doesn't meet the minimum specs is a good thing. It's telling you to actually spend some money and get a new pc coz the one you have is about to become a grandad

souljaboy said:
yea sure , a 1.6ghz hyperthreaded atom is much faster than a 3.4ghz single isnt it , too bad cod will load up on the atom and not the other one that could play it ... but why am i wasting my words ...
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Is that a question or a joke?
If it's a question then errr no not really. if anything the single core would out perform the atom.
If it was a joke then your not funny

M3PH said:
Is that a question or a joke?
If it's a question then errr no not really. if anything the single core would out perform the atom.
If it was a joke then your not funny
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if u know what ht is , it causes the os to see 2 different cores , hence , games that are hardcoded to run on 2 cores will run , on the single core , they wont .
my point is , its a silly limitation and is only to make money for cpu vendors

M3PH said:
End of the day writing code to stop you playing a game when your pc doesn't meet the minimum specs is a good thing. It's telling you to actually spend some money and get a new pc coz the one you have is about to become a grandad
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End of the day writing code to tell you dont get coverage in health insurance when your body doesn't meet the minimum health conditions is a good thing. It's telling you to die or get a new life coz the one you have is about to become a corpse
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do you see urself in Saw now ? telling the old guy what he should do ? is it still a good thing ?
i dont need anyone telling me when i should , if it would require a sse4 (and utilized it) its fine , if it require dx11 gpu (and utilized it) , its fine , but pulling the carpet from single cores when it has the same engine as "world at war" which will max out on a single , gimme a break

souljaboy said:
do you see urself in Saw now ? telling the old guy what he should do ? is it still a good thing ?
i dont need anyone telling me when i should , if it would require a sse4 (and utilized it) its fine , if it require dx11 gpu (and utilized it) , its fine , but pulling the carpet from single cores when it has the same engine as "world at war" which will max out on a single , gimme a break
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obviously trying to discuss something with you is like trying to discuss something with a pre-teen just getting her rag... you will never get the point or the big picture. end of discussion.
BACK ON TOPIC.
as i said earlier, a few random client freezes, a few random server crashes, and a bug with prestiege and purchasing weapons after... but then again, what game has been perfect on launch? treyarch is working on it, and quite diligently i might add, so i give them props there.
MW2 < BO < COD4 IMHO.

Real Racing 2 game to android market

Hi guys,
In case you don't already know this superb racing game with unmatched graphics and gameplay you really must check it out.
http://youtu.be/TOfG1zJbKbQ
The game features licensed cars and 15 player multyplayer mode.
Please help drawing the developer's attention to port this game in android market and leave your thoughts here: getsatisfaction.com/firemint/topics/will_real_racing_2_get_in_the_android_store

Sorry but i think this ain't gonna happen. This is a real console quality game, they spent a lot of money to develop it and optimize it to make it work perfectly for the a5 soc: porting it to Android will lead to insane costs in order to make it suitable for a hundred different pieces of hardware.
Nowadays Apple's app store sells 85% of all the mobile apps in the world, a serious game developer with working brain cells will never spend millions just in order to get to that additional 15% of the market that we represent. Also i'm pretty sure that even the most powerful hardware we have now on this platform would be unable to run this game properly: the gpu in the a5 soc is twice as powerful as the mali-400 in the GS2...

vnvman said:
Apple's app store sells 85% of all the mobile apps in the world
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just wow, wasn't aware of this fact
vnvman said:
the gpu in the a5 soc is twice as powerful as the mali-400 in the GS2...
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i'm just stunned, in every video comparasson of 4s and sgs2 the iphone gets bashed... come to think of it nobody mentioned in any comparassion (and i watch a lot) about the gpu/chipset diferrences... i guess it's never gonna be a fair "trail" between them and everybody is more or less a "fanboy" of either two..
L.E. after your post did some research and found this http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111026235448AArPNUy , it explains everything.
Thanks and ppl might as well leave this topic to "die"...

Well actually when i say that the gpu of the iPhone is faster i mean it really is faster, even on paper: it's not a matter of software. I read it here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17
When i got this phone i knew that the iPhone4s (or even the iPhone4) would have been better for games, but all in all despite the fact that mobile games can be fun at times mobile gaming in general kinda sucks in my opinion: sure you can have the best graphics in the world and whatnot, but the only games you can really play on a small touchscreen panel without going nuts are puzzle games (which look great on the huge Samoled+ of this phone), and those ones run on pretty much every piece of junk. At the end of the day those are the games you play the most when you're on the go, while instead those haeavy 3d games are mostly useless because of their complexity (not to mention the amount of battery they drain), so you end up playing them when you are at home on the coach. This sounds pointless to me because if i'm at home i'd rather like to play Battlefield 3 on my gaming rig: now this makes sense, don't you think?

Real Racing 2 was released yesterday...just saying...

What the.. EA? The original maker is Firemint?
Either way, here's the link. Only compatible with my Desire HD, and not the Galaxy Note? What the...
https://market.android.com/details?...yLDEsImNvbS5lYS5nYW1lLnJlYWxyYWNpbmcyX3JvdyJd
Article:
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/22/rea...the-android-market-leaves-part-1-in-the-dust/

LordManhattan said:
Only compatible with my Desire HD, and not the Galaxy Note? What the...
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You could test this version for your Note: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.ea.game.realracing2_na (not sure if it's compatible though).

Thanks, but it's a no go Just have to wait i guess.

The new Nexus4 is out

Original post here: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/10/nexus-best-of-google-now-in-three-sizes.html
I love my Incredible S. But damn you Google, that offer is unbeatable.
@Mod: if it is not allow to post here, then I am sorry. Plz delete this thread. I don't mean to spam the forum.

thuanle said:
Original post here: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/10/nexus-best-of-google-now-in-three-sizes.html
I love my Incredible S. But damn you Google, that offer is unbeatable.
@Mod: if it is not allow to post here, then I am sorry. Plz delete this thread. I don't mean to spam the forum.
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AWESOME! Gf is getting me the Nexus 10 for Xmas, and I'll buy myself a Nexus 4 around the same time! 2560x1600 10" display, here I come! :highfive:

Never thought that the price would be so unbeatable! Maaan, why did I buy a Galaxy Nexus?

Oh for the love of god! What is with the lack of expandable storage in Nexus devices? I mean, this looks like the perfect device for me, but that lack of an SD Card is a real killer. 16 gig maximum storage, and no option to upgrade? What is this, an iPhone?

CyanideJack said:
Oh for the love of god! What is with the lack of expandable storage in Nexus devices? I mean, this looks like the perfect device for me, but that lack of an SD Card is a real killer. 16 gig maximum storage, and no option to upgrade? What is this, an iPhone?
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Yeah, I know. My 32GB SD card has only 10GB free.

I only ever use around 6gb I clean up my stuff a lot.
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ZaySk said:
AWESOME! Gf is getting me the Nexus 10 for Xmas, and I'll buy myself a Nexus 4 around the same time! 2560x1600 10" display, here I come! :highfive:
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No offence but having a Nexus 7 now, I think it would be a bit boring to have two AOSP devices. Especially coming from sense I used to have AOSP before my N7, but now I only use sense on my IncS

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Same here, I used an 8GB for about half a year before upgrading to 16GB. Never had a problem with space, I just delete apps I don't use and clean out junk folders. I also backup important stuff on my SD card, and then format it every couple of months to keep it clean.
markj338 said:
No offence but having a Nexus 7 now, I think it would be a bit boring to have two AOSP devices. Especially coming from sense I used to have AOSP before my N7, but now I only use sense on my IncS
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While you do have a good point, I've never liked Sense or other skins anyways. Given the choice, I'd always choose an AOSP ROM over a Sense ROM. Pretty much the only reason I'm using a Sense ROM is because it's stable. Sense ROM's are fun to play around with for something new, but I quickly get bored of the limited options available in Rosie and uninstall it and replace it with Apex Launcher. Even tweaked Sense bores me, plus Sense is pretty heavy and I always feel like AOSP is noticeably smoother.
Plus, with a Nexus, I wouldn't have to put up with half-assed, hacked together AOSP ROM's. No offense to any devs! It's just stupid that some things related to a device (drivers, company proprietary libs etc) are never available and have to be hacked to work. I hate that, it's very annoying. With a Nexus, I don't have to worry about that. (I think?...)

ZaySk said:
Same here, I used an 8GB for about half a year before upgrading to 16GB. Never had a problem with space, I just delete apps I don't use and clean out junk folders. I also backup important stuff on my SD card, and then format it every couple of months to keep it clean.
While you do have a good point, I've never liked Sense or other skins anyways. Given the choice, I'd always choose an AOSP ROM over a Sense ROM. Pretty much the only reason I'm using a Sense ROM is because it's stable. Sense ROM's are fun to play around with for something new, but I quickly get bored of the limited options available in Rosie and uninstall it and replace it with Apex Launcher. Even tweaked Sense bores me, plus Sense is pretty heavy and I always feel like AOSP is noticeably smoother.
Plus, with a Nexus, I wouldn't have to put up with half-assed, hacked together AOSP ROM's. No offense to any devs! It's just stupid that some things related to a device (drivers, company proprietary libs etc) are never available and have to be hacked to work. I hate that, it's very annoying. With a Nexus, I don't have to worry about that. (I think?...)
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I have a 16gb N7 and 16gb card in my phone, they get filled with backups of roms lol
I use dropbox and I have a USB OTG cable for all the haevy stuff like movies
I completely agree with your statement on AOSP roms and their stability. While some roms are quite good and fast, none can match a proper AOSP device, like a nexus. None. My N7 is super fast and I underclock it to 1.15GHz to save battery
This is the reason I might be going Sony next: their roms are quite AOSP-like and their source is similar to AOSP, no big changes like Samsung and HTC
Most AOSP and other JB roms for other devices (I mean custom roms) do not have proper project butter working, eg. CM10 on the exynos devices because there is no proper source for drivers and stuff. Although this might change with the Nexus 10

markj338 said:
I have a 16gb N7 and 16gb card in my phone, they get filled with backups of roms lol
I use dropbox and I have a USB OTG cable for all the haevy stuff like movies
I completely agree with your statement on AOSP roms and their stability. While some roms are quite good and fast, none can match a proper AOSP device, like a nexus. None. My N7 is super fast and I underclock it to 1.15GHz to save battery
This is the reason I might be going Sony next: their roms are quite AOSP-like and their source is similar to AOSP, no big changes like Samsung and HTC
Most AOSP and other JB roms for other devices (I mean custom roms) do not have proper project butter working, eg. CM10 on the exynos devices because there is no proper source for drivers and stuff. Although this might change with the Nexus 10
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I used to have a crapload of backups as well, but I realized it would be more efficient to simply keep one backup of my favorite ROM at the time. I try to keep that one backup as current as possible. I gotta get an external HDD to store my music and movies as well
Yes we did have some great devs working on AOSP for our device, and they did a damn great job IMO. It's just the company that limits how good AOSP ROM's are due to not releasing sources for certain components, forcing the community to resort to hacks and other trickery to get it working properly. Damn it must be nice to be able to actually underclock without creating a laggy device. I feel like it's absolutely necessary to OC the Inc S to 1.3 GHz on AOSP, and 1.4-5GHz on Sense, in order to get a decent experience. Not that big of a deal, seeing as there were quite a few phones released with the same SoC as ours, but ran at 1.4GHz stock so the SoC can obviously handle the OC, luckily.
I'm strongly considering Sony as well, if they release a device by Xmas that has at least an S4 Pro SoC, preferably a true Cortex A-15 based SoC. They seem to be one of few companies that really do open up their phones completely for the community, and that's pretty much the #1 most important decision that will decide what phone I get.

ZaySk said:
I used to have a crapload of backups as well, but I realized it would be more efficient to simply keep one backup of my favorite ROM at the time. I try to keep that one backup as current as possible. I gotta get an external HDD to store my music and movies as well
Yes we did have some great devs working on AOSP for our device, and they did a damn great job IMO. It's just the company that limits how good AOSP ROM's are due to not releasing sources for certain components, forcing the community to resort to hacks and other trickery to get it working properly. Damn it must be nice to be able to actually underclock without creating a laggy device. I feel like it's absolutely necessary to OC the Inc S to 1.3 GHz on AOSP, and 1.4-5GHz on Sense, in order to get a decent experience. Not that big of a deal, seeing as there were quite a few phones released with the same SoC as ours, but ran at 1.4GHz stock so the SoC can obviously handle the OC, luckily.
I'm strongly considering Sony as well, if they release a device by Xmas that has at least an S4 Pro SoC, preferably a true Cortex A-15 based SoC. They seem to be one of few companies that really do open up their phones completely for the community, and that's pretty much the #1 most important decision that will decide what phone I get.
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Wow I keep mine at 1024MHz all the time. I overclock it to 1.4 sometimes when I play heavy games but that is it. I don't think my N7 has ever seen past 1.4GHz, when I was testing one of faux123's kernels
I think Sony might wait until MWC next year in Jan or whenever it is, because they just released new phones. But I don't need top performance on my phone anymore, I use it for calling, texting, xda-ing and a bit of internet. I play games and do more processor-intensive things on my Nexus 7
Did you guys see this video? It makes me want to buy one next
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-nexus-4-hands-on/
I like the look of it, and the hardware. And of course the charger *drools*

I hope they'll release a 32gb model :/
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Ihad considered this but in England LG does not have the best reputation so I tend to stay away. Also, the HOX+ is meant to have one of the better cameras around and I don't know how is feel if the N4 cam isn't as good. I've also became a fan of sense .....
However, I am deffo getting the N10 device. I'll probs get it after Xmas when the initial rush has gone. Then I can read my magazines, books and general browsing easyier than on a phone.
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I worry that these Nexus devices may start a president with regards to lack of removable storage. I understand Google's thinking behind using the Cloud as a portable storage medium, but my 500mb a month contract means downloading/streaming anything over data is pretty much out of the question. And living in the sticks means my data connection is flaky most of the time anyway. Until the price of truly 'unlimited' data plans drops considerably, and until coverage becomes better for non-built up areas, cloud storage is pointless for me.
I also notice there's no support for LTE on this device, but given the price that's hardly an issue.
Think I'll be waiting for the 32gb model to.

For me 16GB is totally enough. I had 8GB for a year and it was a bit too less but now I have 16GB on my GNex and I never get it even close to full So no Cloud stuff for me

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For me 16GB is totally enough. I had 8GB for a year and it was a bit too less but now I have 16GB on my GNex and I never get it even close to full So no Cloud stuff for me
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Well for me, I like to download videos like anime and comedy sketches, I guess that's why I need lots of space. And maybe because I have The Dark Knight Rises, Order & Chaos Online in my phone :/
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Wow I keep mine at 1024MHz all the time. I overclock it to 1.4 sometimes when I play heavy games but that is it. I don't think my N7 has ever seen past 1.4GHz, when I was testing one of faux123's kernels
I think Sony might wait until MWC next year in Jan or whenever it is, because they just released new phones. But I don't need top performance on my phone anymore, I use it for calling, texting, xda-ing and a bit of internet. I play games and do more processor-intensive things on my Nexus 7
Did you guys see this video? It makes me want to buy one next
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-nexus-4-hands-on/
I like the look of it, and the hardware. And of course the charger *drools*
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I hate it when there's noticeable lag, and I've always been picky about the performance of all my technological devices lol. I'm actually running my CPU at 1.5GHz right now on smartassv2. I still get good battery life despite the big OC, and I haven't noticed any instability at all. Also helps that I UV'ed 50mv I've always preferred performance over battery life. I'd rather have a snappy device that dies an hour quicker, than a slightly laggy device that lasts longer.
Yea, that's what I was thinking. Unfortunate. But I really want that Nexus 4, especially at that price! I'll be honest, I love google right now. They're pushing the boundaries(in a good way) on pricing for top end devices, and I f**king love it!
Dat S4 Pro Quad....WANT

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I hate it when there's noticeable lag, and I've always been picky about the performance of all my technological devices lol. I'm actually running my CPU at 1.5GHz right now on smartassv2. I still get good battery life despite the big OC, and I haven't noticed any instability at all. Also helps that I UV'ed 50mv I've always preferred performance over battery life. I'd rather have a snappy device that dies an hour quicker, than a slightly laggy device that lasts longer.
Yea, that's what I was thinking. Unfortunate. But I really want that Nexus 4, especially at that price! I'll be honest, I love google right now. They're pushing the boundaries(in a good way) on pricing for top end devices, and I f**king love it!
Dat S4 Pro Quad....WANT
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I hardly have any lag with my settings now
Mine can't handle any UV at 1.4GHz I noticed that while playing shadowgun, it kept freezing and not responding to anything but a battery pull
The only other thing that might keep me away is no 4G Hopefully the camera is a beast
Yeah the S4 quad looks really good. I can get the same performance with my N7 running at those speeds, but no way near the efficiency. I am also interested in the audio chip, because the S4 one is supposed to be really good, compared to the Tegra 3 one.
l0st.prophet has been very active in the N4 forums, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of us end up there. There is already an ex-desire S user off topic thread lol

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I hardly have any lag with my settings now
Mine can't handle any UV at 1.4GHz I noticed that while playing shadowgun, it kept freezing and not responding to anything but a battery pull
The only other thing that might keep me away is no 4G Hopefully the camera is a beast
Yeah the S4 quad looks really good. I can get the same performance with my N7 running at those speeds, but no way near the efficiency. I am also interested in the audio chip, because the S4 one is supposed to be really good, compared to the Tegra 3 one.
l0st.prophet has been very active in the N4 forums, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of us end up there. There is already an ex-desire S user off topic thread lol
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I still notice lag even at 1.5GHz sometimes. Annoying. Hmm that's strange, even at 1.5GHz I don't have any instabilities with UV. I really want to upgrade, to me the Inc S is showing its age internally. Especially in RAM, 2GB of RAM will be heaven. Still in love with the gorgeous color saturation in the screen though!
Meh, 4G isn't to big a deal for me. I have it available in Whitehorse, but HSPA+ is good enough for when I don't have wifi. I just can't resist the price, and I'm thinking about going on pay-as-you-go instead of the ass-rapingly expensive contracts. I practically never call anyone (who does these days?) so I only need data.
The S4 Pro's GPU especially looks very promising. Much better than the Mali 400 in the Exynos 4 series, according to early reports. Plus it's as close as I'll get to a Cortex A15 cpu That's great news, I was hoping the N4 would have a decent audio chip.
Hehe, let's all conspire to take over the N4 forums. All Inc S user's at once abandon this device, and move full force into the N4 forums! :silly::victory: Seriously though, the more people that come from this great community to the N4 forums, the better. :good:

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I still notice lag even at 1.5GHz sometimes. Annoying. Hmm that's strange, even at 1.5GHz I don't have any instabilities with UV. I really want to upgrade, to me the Inc S is showing its age internally. Especially in RAM, 2GB of RAM will be heaven. Still in love with the gorgeous color saturation in the screen though!
Meh, 4G isn't to big a deal for me. I have it available in Whitehorse, but HSPA+ is good enough for when I don't have wifi. I just can't resist the price, and I'm thinking about going on pay-as-you-go instead of the ass-rapingly expensive contracts. I practically never call anyone (who does these days?) so I only need data.
The S4 Pro's GPU especially looks very promising. Much better than the Mali 400 in the Exynos 4 series, according to early reports. Plus it's as close as I'll get to a Cortex A15 cpu That's great news, I was hoping the N4 would have a decent audio chip.
Hehe, let's all conspire to take over the N4 forums. All Inc S user's at once abandon this device, and move full force into the N4 forums! :silly::victory: Seriously though, the more people that come from this great community to the N4 forums, the better. :good:
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That's not fair Oh well, you use 1.5 more than I do I think its processor is showing its age. Some things I am used to using my N7 for, and the IncS is THAT much slower at doing things. But on Venom, everything is super smooth Same with your rom actually, although I used the ultra smooth rosie (I am too on Venom)
I am thinking about getting off a contract too, and buying the phone outright. But, when you add both up it would probably be cheaper still to go on a plan here, for maybe $50 a month or whatever they will give the N4 away free on
Yes, the GPU is a monster, apparently it smashes the Tegra 3 which has a massive GPU, super powered. The Tegra 3 is soo powerful, even at the underclocked speeds I have it at now, I can't actually imagine what you could do with more power at this time.
Don't abandon this device because I am staying here until May next year!