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I'm guessing there's a utility, or utilities, running on the Nook that does things like auto updating the firmware, seeing what books are in your library, what page you're reading, other usage stats, etc.. Has there been any work to disable these spies?
Although I mainly wanted the Nook as a tablet, I'd like to buy a few books, and use it to view a few (Legally owned) PDF files. But if B&N is going to mess with my rooting, or decide something isn't legal, or otherwise decide to remove things off my Nook (Remember the Kindle and 1984?), or spam me based on what I'm reading, I'd rather wipe all B&N software from the device, and just have an Android tablet.
BTW, if the above sounds like a complaint, it's aimed at B&N, not the developers here, for which I am most thankful for all their awesome work!
Since there hasn't been an update yet, nobody is sure if the methods used by other devices will work or not. I believe there are a few threads in the development forum that talk about possible ways of preventing it from auto updating, but they haven't been tested yet to see if they work.
Do some looking in the dev forum or do a search and I"m sure you'll find what I'm talking about. It's a standard method of preventing Android from updating, but no telling if it will work.
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Here is the thread I was referring to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=860480&highlight=update
Thanks for the response. I checked the link, and was surprised Android has the auto-update functionality built in. Do you know anything about possible spy applications? Has anyone checked it's internet activity? Any strange processes?
What do you mean it hasn't updated. The day you first powered it on and connected to the internet you got an update, at least mine did.
I imagine you could use wireshark and then turn on your radio and see where the nook goes first. It could have a schedule so maybe completely restore the device and then see the first addresses or urls it goes too on it's own. Once you get that then it's just a matter of entering those urls in the host file with an unresolvable address.
I probably will use Wireshark, when I get my nook (Christmas present). I just didn't want to reinvent the wheel, and be all prepared when I finally get it. I'm surprised there isn't more interest in privacy with the nook.
Mine didn't update when I got it. It's version 1.0.0, and until you set up wifi there is no way for it to get an update. Also, there isn't a way to check for updates. The original Nook had an option to check for updates, not with the NC.
Greetings,
This is my first post here, so forgive me for posting in the general forum and not in the dev forums (I have to accumulate 10 posts to use the dev forums). I have a very important and worthwhile project that I'm hoping will interest a few devs here.
I am attempting to build a proof-of-concept for a very large educational institution that is considering implementation of ebook readers. Obviously, stock ebook readers are not up to what we need, and more robust tablets like the Galaxy Tab are cost prohibitive given the goal of distribution of these devices to tens of thousands of K-12 students. I don't want to be stuck with a single book distribution method, so I am looking for some standard Android flavor rather than a Nook-like interface.
So, here's my challenge to you. I would like to use the Nook Color (the $250 price point is perfect) to build a proof-of-concept low-end, semi-restricted Android tablet. I am looking for:
- Android 2.2
- Flash Support
- Ability to run:
- Dolphin Browser
- Regular Nook Android App
- Kindle App
- Google Book Reader App
- Adobe Reader App
- Some (undefined) Calculator App
- Stock Android Calendar App
- Stock Android Mail App
- Google Maps App
- Google Earth App
- Stock Android Gallery App or Equivalent
- Some (undefined) File Manager App
- Some (undefined) Note Taking App
I would also like the ability to load APK files (that we write) without the use of the Android Market. And . . . I need the final installation to *NOT* have root capability.
Anyone have a ROM to start this?
Also, while I'm somewhat familiar with rooting other Android devices, I'm not a developer and not a linux expert. I employ developers that have written a few Android apps, so they can handle the installation if necessary.
Any takers?
You can contact me off-list if you like at Dwayne at leeschools.net.
Thanks,
Dwayne
Wouldn't a $200 netbook be a far more usable tool to a student?
good thing you didn't post this in development.
once nook is updated to 2.2 this will basically all be possible with just root.
supposed to be released soon....
if you want a custom rom those will be around soon as well.
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i see you want this all without root. i don't believe that is possible. good luck though
There are specific reasons we are not considering netbooks for this project, beyond the scope of this discussion. For the purpose of this POC, we are only looking at touch-based slates.
I can't think of a way to fully disable root without someone being able to add it back. With that said would you be able to just delete the marketplace to make it "locked down" after installing everything? Possible disable super-level access as well?
I've not seen any confirmation that they are going to update to 2.2. I've only seen rumors to that effect. Do you have evidence to the contrary, because that would be great.
Additionally, the reason I'd like to involve the devs is because it is highly unlikely that B&N will release it with anything close to a stock 2.2 install. It will likely still require quite a bit of work to function normally. Hopefully I'm wrong on that account, but based on B&N's business model, I anticipate that they will do their best to prevent it from being used as a full tablet. They want to sell books. I don't think they want to sell devices without books. Not enough margin in the devices.
Perhaps I'm wrong related to their business model. I have approached B&N and requested an NDA to work with the Nook product team to see if they are interested in working together with us on a customized version. My feeling is that if they make very little on the device (with the goal of making the majority of their profit from content), they'll decline this offer.
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I can't think of a way to fully disable root without someone being able to add it back. With that said would you be able to just delete the marketplace to make it "locked down" after installing everything? Possible disable super-level access as well?
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We could remove super user, but I'd also like to prevent users from killing services. I anticipate that we'll need some additional security apps that need to run full-time. One of our big challenges is that, by law, whenever we provide an Internet-capable device for students to take home, we are required to filter Internet. That's a huge task. On a PC, we an lock it down and force traffic through our filters from outside. From an Android device, we don't know how to handle that yet. We have a few approaches. I'm in discussion with M86 regarding an Android equivalent to their mobile client.
But . . . we have a lot more experience locking down a Windows or Mac PC than a phone OS. Most phone OSes are built from the perspective of a consumer, where the user is free to add/remove apps. We need a way to deal with that. Haven't gotten that far yet. The first order of business was to see if we can build our base functionality in a $250 device.
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I've not seen any confirmation that they are going to update to 2.2. I've only seen rumors to that effect. Do you have evidence to the contrary, because that would be great.
Additionally, the reason I'd like to involve the devs is because it is highly unlikely that B&N will release it with anything close to a stock 2.2 install. It will likely still require quite a bit of work to function normally. Hopefully I'm wrong on that account, but based on B&N's business model, I anticipate that they will do their best to prevent it from being used as a full tablet. They want to sell books. I don't think they want to sell devices without books. Not enough margin in the devices.
Perhaps I'm wrong related to their business model. I have approached B&N and requested an NDA to work with the Nook product team to see if they are interested in working together with us on a customized version. My feeling is that if they make very little on the device (with the goal of making the majority of their profit from content), they'll decline this offer.
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Dude, all of those hings are capable. Have you done any reading in this forum. Just get a nookie froyo 2.2 card set one up the way you want. uninstall super user and market. make lotsa copies of card and stick it in nook. If you really want you can also trash the firmware on the internal memory so it will not even book the stock nook firmware.
enjoy!
Consideration should be taken that rooting technically voids the manufacturer's warranty. Other than that, using the NookColor as a tablet is still a gamble in terms of getting a rock-solid and reliable device. Supporting the devices may be problematic.
Fortunately, the devs here are doing great work and I fully expect (hope) that it will be a rock-solid reliable device very soon.
You will probably also want to avoid booting from the microsd because they are easy to remove.
Filtering could be done with a VPN.
to avoid removal of micro sd, just put a little sugra on the break where the nook opens for the micro sd, sort of lieka warrenty sticker
If you need help. Let me know.
The Nook Color already has a Froyo image that can be installed. DSP currently doesn't work. That is responsible for video decoding not only for local files, but for Flash video as well.
Other than that, Flash will still run, but not on all occasions, and the rest of your requirements have already been accomplished (ie. apks can be installed and already exist on the Market or from the Internet).
You can install the Froyo image (it consists of a boot image and a system image) to your Nook easily, and afterward install all of the "G" apps with a quick copying of a folder.
Check here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=864
- Do a little reading
- Possibly try installing Froyo on your memory card first.
- PM me if you need any guidance. I'm feeling pretty PRO at this after using adb all weekend to work with my Nook.
FYI: You can completely hose your internal installation and still be good (As long as you don't actually corrupt your memory physically). The Nook can always be booted off of a microSD card and restored to a fresh installation.
Edit: I just read some of your other posts. Just a thought: You could uninstall or disable the browser by default, thus not having to worry about Internet filtering. Later, users could still install apks from the sdcard (All that you have to do is tick a box in "Settings"). You can also do all of this without touching the stock rom. Of course you'd want to disable that from booting ever, so... after you were booted into your microSD card OS you could use adb to delete the content of the mmcblk0p1 (boot) partition. But I think that still might go against BN's warranty rules.
I understand the reasoning of wanting to lock it back down but if your students are capable of finding XDA (I'd imagine 1 or 2 of them is, at least) then that person would probably root the systems for anyone who was so inclined. I mean, B&N wasn't able to stop it, it's not likely that you would (without some sort of remote supervision app that could monitor and detect rooting).
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I understand the reasoning of wanting to lock it back down but if your students are capable of finding XDA (I'd imagine 1 or 2 of them is, at least) then that person would probably root the systems for anyone who was so inclined. I mean, B&N wasn't able to stop it, it's not likely that you would (without some sort of remote supervision app that could monitor and detect rooting).
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that was going to be my 2cts. A student would just have to pop in an sd card. And it would be a little unfair not giving student that right? And even then, they could always push something over via adb.
Have you looked at other options like the Archos line of Android tablets?
Otherwise, the SD Card install of Froyo works well - just superglue the opening
Why would any school district buy tablets with no warranty? Doesn't seem that feasible to me.
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Why would any school district buy tablets with no warranty? Doesn't seem that feasible to me.
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He's only looking for a proof of concept right now, and is trying to work with Barnes and Noble directly.
I forsee many broken nooks in our future.
Hello XDA'rs,
I work for the developer Loud Crow Interactive Inc. and we build book apps for kids.
We've recently launched into the Android Market and are having trouble with our app being installed on rooted nook colors. The issues appear to be on the licensing side.
Does anyone have any thoughts on what this could be? Also, what does a rooted nook register as (device) on the Android Market place,
Thanks in advance,
Tom
What's the error, logcat ?, what's the app?
dude u gotta give some info if need a solution.
There could be a million things that could cause problems like that.
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Hello XDA'rs,
I work for the developer Loud Crow Interactive Inc. and we build book apps for kids.
We've recently launched into the Android Market and are having trouble with our app being installed on rooted nook colors. The issues appear to be on the licensing side.
Does anyone have any thoughts on what this could be? Also, what does a rooted nook register as (device) on the Android Market place,
Thanks in advance,
Tom
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We are all waiting for an answer. I have an outstanding request in with Google that I have had to update several times as they seem to be dancing around the question. When and if I hear I will post a response.
The App is "The Going to Bed Book" or "PopOut! The Tale of Peter Rabbit" - Our users are getting a "Invalid License" error. We're going to root one of our nooks soon to do some testing, but until then we were thinking we might be able to get something from the forums. Both users who reported the issue were running CM7, which I also run on my HTC IS, and runs our apps fine. Thus we're thinking it could have something to do with the device ID running against the licenses?
As we set up restrictions by device, We were curious what a rooted NC running CM7 would show as in terms of a device on the Android Market place?
Thanks for the help guys, and thanks for the patience. I'm not the actual Android developer on the team. He's out of the office for the week,
Cheers,
Tom
I think he means he is having trouble getting the application to install from the market in general. I looked up the applications and the NC was not a supported device.
I don't want to pay the money to download it to my phone and sideload it (I'm at work anyways). I don't know much about applications and how devices are determined to be compatible other than maybe their permissions. However, these applications (there are two on the market), don't require anything other than SD access.
As we set up restrictions by device....
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That might be part of some of this. I was not aware developers were setting restrictions by device. Is this new?
model name -NookColor
product name -encore
And there is really no way to find out the problem, without looking at the logcat.
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That might be part of some of this. I was not aware developers were setting restrictions by device. Is this new?
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No, this feature is available to every developer since a long time. but there are 600 or so devices so not a lot of people bother with it.
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model name -NookColor
product name -encore
And there is really no way to find out the problem, without looking at the logcat.
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Actually, questions to the market run against your account and the email info and log the following device details:
> IIILanguage: en
> IssueType: market_website
> Language: en
> android_app_name: Facebook
> android_os: gingerbread
> android_os_other:
> device_manufacturer: other
> device_manufacturer_other: Barnes & Noble
> hidden_country: US
> website_issue_select: grayed_device
device_manufacturer= bn
If u want to know more take a look at build.prop, people have uploaded it in netflix thread, which reminds me that a lot of users usually change their device and fake it to run different apps.
rigy73 said:
device_manufacturer= bn
If u want to know more take a look at build.prop, people have uploaded it in netflix thread, which reminds me that a lot of users usually change their device and fake it to run different apps.
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Those were direct quotes from what Google's filters picked up when I sent an email while logged in to the market.
Thanks guys, this will be a good start. If and when we resolve the issue I'll be sure to post an update with the details. I really wish Android Market supported promo codes; we'd love to be able to throw out some free copies for you guys to have a look at and test for these one off issues.
Thanks Again!
I assume if you sideload the .apk it will install fine?
Just want to contribute that I have the Going to Bed Book installed and running fine on my Nook. I am still running CM7 7.1RC, and have my build.prop spoofed for Netflix (no longer required, but I never changed it back and haven't flashed a new CM7 in a while). The only change I made in build.prop was setting the manufacturer to HTC.
The book runs great and is my son's new favorite app.
You may have an issue using get.DeviceID()... have one of your users use my IMEI generator and see if it fixes their problem. They can also spoof Manufacture, Device and Model with the newest version.
IMEI Generator Thread.
I have it on my CM7 (7.0.3 to lazy to update, running off sd no changes to build.prop) Nook and it works fine. My daughter loves it.
Some of the pages are kind of hard to register a turn, and it always starts upsidedown then flips itself over. But both of those things are the same on my incredible 2 as well.
Sent from my ADR6350 using XDA App
Update March 25, 2013:
Solved!! The folks over at Thinktube Inc. have developed a fix and submitted it to CyanogenMod and AOSP for merging into their code:
http://b-real.org/2013/ad-hoc-ibss-m...h-cyanogenmod/
http://www.thinktube.com/android-tech/46-android-wifi-ibss
Essentially the EASIEST solution is to ROOT your phone, and install the CyanogenMod nightly as of March 25 or later (note: you will have to wait until the nightly is actually BUILT, since as of today it is not ready yet).
I have not tested this solution out myself, however others within this thread have confirmed it working.
Please if anyone develops a easier patch or a step-by-step for people who do NOT want to use CyanogenMod, post and I will update the OP
Cheers!
WiKiD24
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Update Oct 9, 2012:
- Nexus 7 v4.1.2 did not add Wi-Fi Ad-Hoc Support with the stock update from Google.
To do: Check if any WPA-Supplicant changes previously tested in v4.1.1 now work in 4.1.2
- Workaround (Recommended): Bluetooth Tethering to Nexus 7 Tablet (via Bluetooth DUN Profile). "BlueVPN" from Google Play Store.
Tested successfully on many Nokia Symbian phones (N7, E71, E72), and others.
However, many applications on Nexus 7 Tablet do not support it (without fixes from the developers)
Confirmed working applications:
- Pulse
- Google Chrome
- Dolphin Browser
- Facebook
- Ebuddy
- Youtube
- Others (I am too lazy to add them all)
Confirmed NOT working applications:
- Gmail
- Email
- Google Search
- Google Play Store
- Dropbox
- Words with Friends
- Scramble with Friends
- Others (I am too lazy to add them all)
More details can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29763582&postcount=27
Issue: Sometimes the phone/tablet do not connect (randomly), due to issues with either the phone or the tablet.
To resolve: Turn on and off bluetooth on phone, Turn on & off bluetooth on tablet. Try again. If does not work, reboot phone and tablet and try again. Should work.
-Workaround: Android Phone to Nexus 7 Tablet (via "FoxFI" App on Phone, "FoxFi Addon" App on Tablet, or via "PDANet", or via "Wireless Tether App")
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29763582&postcount=27
- Workaround: USB Tethering ANY Phone to Nexus 7 Tablet (via "PPP Widget" App on Tablet, requires rooted Nexus 7)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32431103&postcount=51
- Workaround: Windows WiFi Laptop Tethering to Nexus 7 Tablet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klHzMyYFGeQ
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Hi All,
I've just recently gotten a Nexus 7 and need to be able to enable Ad-Hoc wifi on the tablet.
I also own a Asus TF101 and previously had the same problem however there was a fix for that.
The solution was to replace the wpa_supplicant file in the /system/bin folder, however I do not know the code to change it.
If anyone has the technical know-how, they would be able to reverse-engineer it and apply the same fix.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370955
http://szym.net/2010/12/adhoc-wifi-in-android/
http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/2752...less-hotspots/
http://www.olsr.org/?q=olsr_on_android
http://hostap.epitest.fi/gitweb/gitw...upplicant.conf
I posted a possible solution in QnA section. Thread title is similar to this one. Check it out. Doesn't involve any coding. Prime had a similar issue on a few firmware updates. This was solved for us(before Asus came around to enabling it themselves) by adding in a wifi supplicant file and renaming an older one. Then setting permissions on the new file. Here is the link to that thread. There's a good chance it will work without the file needing to be modded. It came from a galaxy tab LR something and worked fine on prime. Its worth checking out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1438297
thanks for the tip and I tried it out, which is essentially the same type of solution but it didn't think work as there is no wpa_supplicant2 file in the nexus 7.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1777413
here's some more useful information for enabling ad hoc:
http://szym.net/2010/12/adhoc-wifi-in-android/
http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/27522-howto-connect-to-ad-hoc-wireless-hotspots/
http://www.olsr.org/?q=olsr_on_android
http://hostap.epitest.fi/gitweb/git...ob_plain;f=wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
I'm doing what I can right now to try and enable it.
Some more experienced android users whom know what they're doing would be better than me trying it out, though!!
Did any of those sources of information get you any closer to enabling ad-hoc?
Just FYI that Nexus S "ad hoc enabling file" doesn't work on NS with Jelly Bean.
nexususer0101 said:
Did any of those sources of information get you any closer to enabling ad-hoc?
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None yet, I need some help to do so. There is a file called "wpa_cli" that I need copied from another device, because I can't find it on the internet.
If anyone could find it in their "/system/bin" folder and attach it to this tread, I could certainly try it.
I've also requested the same thing in the Q&A forum here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1793437
Bumping; I have the same condition. I'm in Italy and bought an internet package for my laptop--I'm sharing it with all my other devices but the N7 doesn't see the adhoc connection. Like OP said, I had a Transformer TF101 and remember flashing a file to fix it.
Thanks in advance.
Just an FYI: Also checked my GNex for a wpa_cli and came up empty.
Just wanted to give quick update, i have not been able to find anyone to help me and also my life is kinda hectic right now... Hopefully someone will be able to pick up where I left off, in the meantime my nexus 7 is pretty much useless to me until resolved.
One more "me too".
I'm here to share my sympathy to everyone else's pain as I have a nexus 7 that I can't connect to my phone's adhoc Hotspot. I have also posted my query in Android Central, but no one seems to have been able to know a fix as of yet. (topic can be found here: Android Forums at AndroidCentral.com > Google Nexus 7 Tablet Forum > Nexus 7 Rooting ROM's & Hack's > *** CONNECTING TO Adhoc WiFi WITH THE NEXUS 7 ***)
As I said in that thread.. not being able to connect to phones hotspot makes my beautiful nexus 7 feel like a handicapped tablet.
wikid24 said:
Just wanted to give quick update, i have not been able to find anyone to help me and also my life is kinda hectic right now... Hopefully someone will be able to pick up where I left off, in the meantime my nexus 7 is pretty much useless to me until resolved.
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I haven't seen any reports/posts of people checking out or trying what I mentioned in post #2..lol. on prime we had this exact same problem. Then we found the supplicant file to replace one we had and then adhoc tethering worked after that. You only need to be rooted to do this as you need to rename a file and insert new supplicant in there and set permissions. You can always backup and rename original file. So if it doesn't work, you can easily revert back to stock file. I have a feeling this new file will work. Just haven't tried myself yet as I haven't brought tablet outdoors yet to need tethering. I might eventually see if it works if no one else does.
Look at the thread I linked in second post and you will see prime owners had exact same problem and we solved it. It worked for the transformer 300 also. Will likely work for nexus 7 also. The file is, in a sense, universal.
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I haven't seen any reports/posts of people checking out or trying what I mentioned in post #2..lol. .
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I have tried. It does not work -- WiFi refuses to turn back on with this new supplicant file. And yes, I made sure to follow your instructions exactly as described in the procedure.
With the N7, there is no such thing as a wpa_supplicant2 file originally in /system/bin (only the one without the '2' exists in the N7 which is the one running the show here, I know this for a fact as when restoring this file, the WiFi in the N7 becomes functional again). So I tried this same file you provide both with and without the '2', with no better results.
I suspect that only a developer that knows what he's doing would be able to come up with a new wpa_supplicant file specifically tweaked for the N7 (as opposed to using one that did the trick for the Prime or for the Xoom or whathaveyou).
Thanks for the suggested idea though... anything else you think we should try?
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I have tried. It does not work -- WiFi refuses to turn back on with this new supplicant file. And yes, I made sure to follow your instructions exactly as described in the procedure.
With the N7, there is no such thing as a wpa_supplicant2 file originally in /system/bin (only the one without the '2' exists in the N7 which is the one running the show here, I know this for a fact as when restoring this file, the WiFi in the N7 becomes functional again). So I tried this same file you provide both with and without the '2', with no better results.
I suspect that only a developer that knows what he's doing would be able to come up with a new wpa_supplicant file specifically tweaked for the N7 (as opposed to using one that did the trick for the Prime or for the Xoom or whathaveyou).
Thanks for the suggested idea though... anything else you think we should try?
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They likely will implement it through a future update. Hopefully that's sooner than later. Ill ask motley, kernel developer.
I toyed with this for a while...
If you install Power Controls (Power Controls) you can add a button that turns on the Wifi Hotspot.
Problems:
you cant change any settings in current settings UI
Appears to be default "Android_AP" SSID and whatever the default password is (i dont recall if this is a random code or not)
Its a start!
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I toyed with this for a while...
If you install Power Controls you can add a button that turns on the Wifi Hotspot.
Problems:
you cant change any settings in current settings UI
Appears to be default "Android_AP" SSID and whatever the default password is (i dont recall if this is a random code or not)
Its a start!
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Could you explain exactly what this does? I didn't understand what it is being implied with this being a start? with this you can actually connect to adhoc?
idk if anyone has looked...but has anyone looked into editing the Wifi-Direct api to make adhoc networks visible in there? Since wifi-direct is made for p2p connections. it's android.net.wifi.p2p.WifiP2pManager info about it is here http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/connectivity/wifip2p.html like I said...don't know if it's much help
I also wanted to post a quick reply, since I've been an insomniac yesterday.
From my previous posts I posted this link here as well, I edited the wpa_supplicant.conf file from the /system/etc/wifi folder and modified with the following settings, however I don't think that it even reads the wpa_supplicant.conf file either. Can anyone either confirm or deny that the wpa_supplicant.conf file is being used on the N7??
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update_config=1
ctrl_interface=wlan0
eapol_version=1
ap_scan=2
fast_reauth=1
network={
ssid="Bondphone"
mode=1
frequency=2412
key_mgmt=NONE
wep_key0="1234567890123"
wep_key1=1234567890123
wep_tx_keyidx=1
priority=3
auth_alg=SHARED
}
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wikid24: I don't know if N7 (or my NS) reads this file but it definitely reads /data/misc/wifi/wpa_supplicant.conf. Only problem is that I can't turn wifi on after ANY change in this file. Sometimes even if I revert my backup file, wifi won't launch and I must delete it to make wifi working again.
I found this thread on XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1806937
It is edited wpa_supplicant file for Asus Transformer but it allows me to turn on wifi even on NS. But it doesn't show me any ad hoc networks. Maybe with non-stock kernel...?
And I also found ad hoc patch for source code of older version of wpa_supplicant. But I'm not able to try if it is possible to apply it on JB version too.
http://szym.net/android/wpa_supplicant-ibss.patch
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wikid24: I don't know if N7 (or my NS) reads this file but it definitely reads /data/misc/wifi/wpa_supplicant.conf. Only problem is that I can't turn wifi on after ANY change in this file. Sometimes even if I revert my backup file, wifi won't launch and I must delete it to make wifi working again.
I found this thread on XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1806937
It is edited wpa_supplicant file for Asus Transformer but it allows me to turn on wifi even on NS. But it doesn't show me any ad hoc networks. Maybe with non-stock kernel...?
And I also found ad hoc patch for source code of older version of wpa_supplicant. But I'm not able to try if it is possible to apply it on JB version too.
http://szym.net/android/wpa_supplicant-ibss.patch
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jenda, I think you may have solved a big piece to the puzzle!!
You can copy the file to another directory, and THAN you can open the file! I noticed I had all my pre-saved wifi addresses in this file!
If someone can please copy the "/data/misc/wifi/wpa_supplicant.conf" file to another directory, modify it, than overwrite the old file, it should work!! *fingers crossed*
(unfortunately I am busy for a few days, don't know if I'll be able to make the change for a while)
I've began to write up a guide for getting Arch usable on the Nexus 7. I just threw it up on google docs because I'm too lazy to try to do the wiki thing until it's more complete. Hopefully it is far enough along to get things rolling for people who are looking to experiment with arch.
Anyway, it's a work in progress, if anyone has suggestions, correction, completions, criticisms, etc then holler.
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Changelog
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2013-07-20
--Added instructions for installing the platform tools on an arch host pc
--Added references to wicd and network manager as alternatives to netctl
2013-10-20
--Updated instructions to reflect new *-grouper.zip naming scheme for MultiROM files
--Added instructions for updating the kernel to include kexec
--Got bluetooth 90% working. Interface comes up and can find devices with scan. Can’t get it to pair yet though.
2013-10-24
--Got the bluetooth device to power up on boot by adding a udev rule. Unfortunately the bluetooth daemon seems to be failing as it starts.
2013-10-28
--My keyboard is pairing on boot now. Ugly ugly things to get it working, but it works.
2013-11-03
--Updated the guide to get X working.
2013-11-04
--Tweaked xorg.conf files to get kde and e17 working.
--Added instructions to get Touchégg working to provide more tablety experience
Todo/Bugs
Problems/Bugs/Todo
The following is a list of things that need to be addressed or that I want to address. These things will be tackled in no particular order but hopefully over time the number bugs and problems will go down relative to the number of features I want to add.
Feel free to comment with your own ideas or bug reports.
Fix slow shutdowns after enabling networking with netctl
Fix whatever extremely verbose crash shows up on shutdown after setting up bluetooth
Get bluetooth working without hacks and under bluez5
Get a graphical login working
On screen keyboard (especially at login screen)
Set up an aur and/or googlecode project to automate some of the scripting required to get things working
Automate the process with some kind of setup tool
Replace the google doc with a wiki page in a relevant place
Make a custom spin that works more out of the box
Sound
GPS
Accelerometer
Magnetometer
Hardware buttons
Any other sensors that I forgot or am unaware of
Auto screen rotation
For the section on setting up fastboot and adb...it's safe to assume someone installing arch on the nex7 probably has arch on their pc too. For arch, you need to set up access to the AUR, with a package manager that has access to it, i.e. yaourt. Then you can get android-sdk-platform-tools. The rest of the guide looks good. I personally like wicd for my network manager as it is easier to add and remove networks when you go to new locations, and I installed e17(enlightenment desktop).
joeG78 said:
For the section on setting up fastboot and adb...it's safe to assume someone installing arch on the nex7 probably has arch on their pc too. For arch, you need to set up access to the AUR, with a package manager that has access to it, i.e. yaourt. Then you can get android-sdk-platform-tools. The rest of the guide looks good. I personally like wicd for my network manager as it is easier to add and remove networks when you go to new locations, and I installed e17(enlightenment desktop).
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Thanks for the feedback
I don't have arch on my pc at the moment, so it's not a given, but i think you are right that people are probably more likely to have arch if they are looking at this guide. I updated the guide with info on how to install the tools from AUR. Also added links to wicd and Network Manager in the arch wiki so people are aware of some options if they don't like netctl, and mentioned that e17 works.
Xorg with alarm on nexus 7
Okay, got ALarm installed on my nexus 7 8GB.
For Xorg, I used files from "plasma active" nexus 7 distribution.
Just take them from the plasma active and put them into your /etc/X11 and X should work.
(I can't post a link, must wait 10 posts, I'll link the files later or you can PM me)
My only problem now is to put a cross-compile toolchain on my computer to be able to compile e17 with illume modules. Tried to compile on my tablet but it's too slow and I've not enough disk free to finish. If anybody can help on this point…
What distribution are you using on your PC? Also you can pm me the link for the xorg configuration and I'll post it for you
OK so I have come as far as installing multirom and I installed the archlinux rom and got this error when I tried to boot it
"kexec-hardboot support required to boot this kernel"
How do I resolve this?
thecrimsonfukr said:
OK so I have come as far as installing multirom and I installed the archlinux rom and got this error when I tried to boot it
"kexec-hardboot support required to boot this kernel"
How do I resolve this?
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Go back and reread the multirom thread, then install a kexec-hardboot patched kernel in your internal rom.
Sent from my SGH-T679 using xda premium
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Go back and reread the multirom thread, then install a kexec-hardboot patched kernel in your internal rom.
Sent from my SGH-T679 using xda premium
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Thank you! I didnt realize it was that simple... for some reason i find the original multirom post difficult to follow.
thecrimsonfukr said:
Thank you! I didnt realize it was that simple... for some reason i find the original multirom post difficult to follow.
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Hello
i want install arch linux on nexus 7 , but i confuse about it . is arch linux on nexus 7 fast and stable ?
can i watch hd video in arch linux withot lag ? before days i install ubuntu desktop on N7 but when i open video HD ( not full) with vlc , it somtimes play withot sound and it have lag . unity is heavy for nexus 7 , i want install arch + lxde . is it fater ?
sorry for english .
For me Arch works without any problems but when I type startx xserver freezes after the first image of xfce or e17.
Has anybody a solution?
? How to install e17 ?
joeG78 said:
For the section on setting up fastboot and adb...it's safe to assume someone installing arch on the nex7 probably has arch on their pc too. For arch, you need to set up access to the AUR, with a package manager that has access to it, i.e. yaourt. Then you can get android-sdk-platform-tools. The rest of the guide looks good. I personally like wicd for my network manager as it is easier to add and remove networks when you go to new locations, and I installed e17(enlightenment desktop).
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e17 is the fast
so , i want to installing to my nexus 7
thanks .
Why ? my bluetooth not work?
not find the device ????
ylixir said:
I've began to write up a guide for getting Arch usable on the Nexus 7. I just threw it up on google docs because I'm too lazy to try to do the wiki thing until it's more complete. Hopefully it is far enough along to get things rolling for people who are looking to experiment with arch.
Anyway, it's a work in progress, if anyone has suggestions, correction, completions, criticisms, etc then holler.
My bluetooth not working
cannot find the device ??
Nexus 7 32GB Wifi
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bluetooth
I have bluetooth (almost) working. I've put instructions in the guide. They aren't really a final solution, but maybe people who are running gui's can tell me if they work. I know I have the hardware working because I can see my keyboard when I scan for it, but I can't figure out how to get bluez5 to pair from the command line. Hopefully someone has better luck with a gui?
bluetooth
I've got Bluetooth working. I even have it pairing automatically on boot with a keyboard. Its an ugly solution but it works. The guide has been updated. I'll tackle X next
My Arch Install
Hey just wanted to add my install experience to the thread hopefully to help others. First of all I want say thanks for all documentation from the previous posters. I tried to follow the instructions as close as possible for a kde install, but I ran into some trouble with lightdm, so I tried kdm instead. And I can happily report it has worked swimmingly. Instructions on how to setup kdm, navigate to /usr/share/config/kdm. First edit the kdmrc to turn off the themed greeter. Then add the xvkbd to the XSetup file as in the lightdm setup. Another thing I did was utilize the plasmaboard widget on my main kde panel for my on screen keyboard once I log in. It seems to work much better than xvkbd for me. I can also confirm flash is working great.
So this really close to totally replacing my linux laptop, especially when I am on the go, in fact I am writing this post on the device in arch. However one key piece is still missing for me is sound. I can't seem to coax any sound out the device with my arch install, and amarok crashes on startup, even though both these items were working perfectly in ubuntu. If any one has any ideas how to make audio and amarok work I would be immensely grateful. Also thanks again, I am so happy to be rid of the X11 touch race condition. I have added a screenshot of me editing this post for those interested as well.
Figured out sound!
I think i found a solution to all of my troubles from my previous post. Amarok started working after a pacman update. My general audio problems seem to be caused by the linux for tegra audio drivers lack of head phone jack detection, I found a workaround the ubuntu nexus 7 launchpad bug tracker: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-nexus7/+bug/1068804/comments/24. For the tldr crowd basically you have to use alsamixer manually mute and unmute the int_spkr channel for speaker audio and the int_mic channel to enable headphones. Then you can use the output and and hp to channels adjust volume for speaker and headphones respectively. It also might help to do a suspend resume cycle i sound still isn't working. Thanks to everyone else, hopefully others will find this useful as well.
Many thanks for your work!!! I'm using it on a nexus 7 with glass and touch broken (unuseless) but now it lives!!! and is a very responsive lxde desktop with xrdp starting on boot which I use with amule or bittorrent all night long...
two questions:
1) for me it does not work shutdown -r now or reboot... it close immediately all network connections but I have to keep power button 10 sec to restart system...
2) using it with an hub usb I'm trying to connect a big hard disk: pcmanfm (lxde file manager) refuse to mount it saying than it is not authorized... (I've followed archlinux wiki: it work on my archlinux desktop but not in nexus 7).