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Tilt Replacement

I have had my Tilt for a little over a year now and I realy like it alot, but being a forward thinking person I understand that when my contract is up in 8 months or so I am going to want a new phone. I have been scouring fourums and manufacturer websites and have been unable to find anything that fills the Tilts shoes. One of my main concerns is that other phones all seem to be getting rid of the buttons on the front which I want to keep. does anyone have any suggestions for a replacement phone, already out or on the way?

wait and see what is coming out in 8 months.

There's not many phones worth the price or trouble to replace the Kaiser. I'd just wait and see what going to be new in the market. I heard HTC maybe making a phone with the Nvidia graphics chip, so that maybe worth the wait.
Otherwise, most new HTC phones are using a 128 Mhz faster CPU, with slightly more ram, storage, accelerometer, and higher resolution screen. Higher Megapixel camera too, if that matters to you. Some new phones don't even have a keyboard, so you'll have to use the touch screen.
If I were to buy a new Smart Phone, it'll probably be based on the Android OS. If WM6.5 doesn't get a massive overhaul, then Android is the way to go.

There are many android phones coming out that I would like to have.

Sony Ericsson Xperia 2!!! Cool Phone!

Nope here it is, the uber mega phone to crush all other phones.
http://gizmodo.com/5361497/itg-xpphone-runs-windows-xp-pre+orders-for-att-vodafone-and-orange

Well, I can tell you my 2 years is up, and I am probably going to get the Touch Pro 2 (aka Tilt 2) from AT&T when it comes out.

when is that supposed to come out??

hardcoresmylife said:
when is that supposed to come out??
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Originally it was scheduled for Oct. 6th, but ROM bugs apparantly pushed that back to Oct. 18th. However, I'd bet you could get it a few days earlier if you asked the AT&T reps. I got my Tilt 3 days early, so I don't think getting the Pro2 would be terribly difficult to get ahead of schedule.

Personally I'm thinking of switching to a BlackBerry if another good HTC doesn't come out. I got the Tilt as a replacement to the 8125 and I couldn't be happier. I've had it for a long time now and it's extremely durable. I've dropped it numerous times and it's still in good condition. The 8125 broke after the 5th drop so I was vary happy about the replacement.

i just went to my ATT store and asked if they heard about a tilt 2 or touch pro 2 coming out in october. and the reps there said they havent heard of anything like that coming out in october... is there some news link that says something about this phone??

hardcoresmylife said:
i just went to my ATT store and asked if they heard about a tilt 2 or touch pro 2 coming out in october. and the reps there said they havent heard of anything like that coming out in october... is there some news link that says something about this phone??
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The Boy Genius Report posted this story, and if you google "Tilt 2", you'll find quite a few pictures and articles concerning it. When I asked my AT&T reps, they said they didn't know anything officially, but one who seemed to be senior over all the rest said that he wouldn't be surprised considering all the things online about it.

is there in intresting phone coming out verry soon?

hello everyone
im almost deu to a contract renewal(next week)
and im looking at the desire hd
im asking myself is there something coming out like in a month wich is more intresting then the desire hd?
thansk for any tips

Nexus S in a week or two
Specs:
Gingerbread
Daul-Core
Samsung SAMOLED2 screen ect.

MacaronyMax said:
Nexus S in a week or two
Specs:
Gingerbread
Daul-Core
Samsung SAMOLED2 screen ect.
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thanks for the rep mate
only downside is ill have to wait to long for that phone here in holland as we always have a later release date

Try the HD7...Its great!

New phones always tend to get released in mass numbers around the "holiday season", anywhere from August/September to January/February. Your best bet is to hold out a little bit longer, they're just around the corner. It's hard, I've wanted to jump at the Mytouch4g and the G2, but I can't do it knowing the next best is about to show up.
When the time comes, you'll know.

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New phones always tend to get released in mass numbers around the "holiday season", anywhere from August/September to January/February. Your best bet is to hold out a little bit longer, they're just around the corner. It's hard, I've wanted to jump at the Mytouch4g and the G2, but I can't do it knowing the next best is about to show up.
When the time comes, you'll know.
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well i would love to wait but my hd is broken and my tp2 has been broken for a long time now
im using a old sony ericson k880i:-o
its like a major setback from my hd if you know what i mean
ill try to wait though

iPhone has been out for some time now get it

gullum said:
iPhone has been out for some time now get it
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Donated 90euro's to XDA and are telling him to get an iPhone lol
If you do check out http://www.iphone-developers.com
But honestly I reckon wait till the Nexus S, being the first Daul Core phone

I hate i-Phone...
Would have appreciated if hTC had some good line-up here in India...

The HD7 in India?

Will the HD7 has complete functionality as it does in other countries...
Like the HTC Weather tabs, the Zune full screen photo backgrounds etc etc...

Yes, i own the HD7, have been for a few days now. Everything seems to work like in any other country. The UI is fantastic even though it seems a bit Kaccha(unripe). Of course its 7.0 so

Razultull said:
Yes, i own the HD7, have been for a few days now. Everything seems to work like in any other country. The UI is fantastic even though it seems a bit Kaccha(unripe). Of course its 7.0 so
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hello,
where did you get your Htc hd7, i live in Bangalore, been to few shops the price is around 28.5k to 30k. is it worth? or shd i wait for few weeks and get htc mozart?
im placing pre order for htc Mozart?
if u know any HTC authorized dealers in Bangalore, pl link me the address.
ty

Razultull said:
Yes, i own the HD7, have been for a few days now. Everything seems to work like in any other country. The UI is fantastic even though it seems a bit Kaccha(unripe). Of course its 7.0 so
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HI thanks..i didnt get your 'kaccha' (unripe) comment..could u elaborate this for me a bit..i am asking for this cause as it is I am going a little over my budget...so I dont want a phone that is useless..(IM SICK OF WINMO 6.5.X)
taruian said:
hello,
where did you get your Htc hd7, i live in Bangalore, been to few shops the price is around 28.5k to 30k. is it worth? or shd i wait for few weeks and get htc mozart?
im placing pre order for htc Mozart?
if u know any HTC authorized dealers in Bangalore, pl link me the address.
ty
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HI...if u go to the HTC.com/in, see 'where to buy' section...and its not 28 in Mumbai..officialy its 27..i can confirm..waitng for it to dip a little more, around 24-25 and then gonna grab it...im done with Android...

circleofomega said:
HI thanks..i didnt get your 'kaccha' (unripe) comment..could u elaborate this for me a bit..i am asking for this cause as it is I am going a little over my budget...so I dont want a phone that is useless..(IM SICK OF WINMO 6.5.X)
HI...if u go to the HTC.com/in, see 'where to buy' section...and its not 28 in Mumbai..officialy its 27..i can confirm..waitng for it to dip a little more, around 24-25 and then gonna grab it...im done with Android...
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been to few shops today, the price offered for htc hd 7 is 28k at Bangalore, thinking of getting the fone by this sat. i guess the price will dip if omnia 7 & htc 7 Mozart is available at the stores, may be it will take around 2 months. kinda long waiting time
so im still waiting to get ma hands on hd 7

taruian said:
been to few shops today, the price offered for htc hd 7 is 28k at Bangalore, thinking of getting the fone by this sat. i guess the price will dip if omnia 7 & htc 7 Mozart is available at the stores, may be it will take around 2 months. kinda long waiting time
so im still waiting to get ma hands on hd 7
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U thnk just like me brother..im also gonna wait for a couple of months...see if things turn in my favour...otherwise..

circleofomega said:
U thnk just like me brother..im also gonna wait for a couple of months...see if things turn in my favour...otherwise..
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flipkart have started pre-booking of the handset, estimated release will be 11 Jan. more info on the below link.
the price offered by flipkart is Rs. 25499
http://www.flipkart.com/htc-mozart-m...bctf99bdnmg2fz
will wait for few more days, the price of hd7 might drop down to 26-27k.
still the price of hd7 at Bangalore is 28k.
how bout the sound quality of hd7 in compared with Mozart? :s

Mozart available at univercell for price of Rs.25,192 + 5% VAT. link below
http://www.univercell.in/mobiles/displayMobileDetails.action?productId=28432
goin to get this fone by this week.

taruian said:
flipkart have started pre-booking of the handset, estimated release will be 11 Jan. more info on the below link.
the price offered by flipkart is Rs. 25499
http://www.flipkart.com/htc-mozart-m...bctf99bdnmg2fz
will wait for few more days, the price of hd7 might drop down to 26-27k.
still the price of hd7 at Bangalore is 28k.
how bout the sound quality of hd7 in compared with Mozart? :s
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Again..just the same question in my head...Will Mozart be better when it comes to sound?
I actually don't even mind Mozart>>
taruian said:
Mozart available at univercell for price of Rs.25,192 + 5% VAT. link below
http://www.univercell.in/mobiles/displayMobileDetails.action?productId=28432
goin to get this fone by this week.
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Superb man!!! all the best and lemme know ur experience!!

I would recommand you wait it out.
If you are ready to Shell out 25-26k
You rather Get the Galaxy S or Nexus S comes to around Rs. 27,500
better functionality .better features.
If you are only interested in Screen size then go for the HD7.
Nothing is really good as far as Im concerned.
So please do your research before purchase.
(Im currently regretting it)

Honestly, i dont see any point in waiting its not like the hardware is going to get better. Microsoft is releasing an update to Windows phone 7 at the end of the month that makes the phone even faster, preserves battery life and adds copy and paste among others.
Theyve done a really good job for a 1.0 OS release, however it is clear that there are several small features missing(like msg forwarding). If this isnt going to hinder you too much i would urge you to go with the hd7
Dont be swayed by the emergence of dual core phones, there are no dual core ready apps yet, and that will take time.
As for the HD7, it has the biggest screen out there, and it is really really fast. I love the responsive UI and the front panel which actually looks quite subtle and modest(as opposed to the flashy samsung omnia which looks gaudy).
Sorry for the delayed reply.

corleno said:
I would recommand you wait it out.
If you are ready to Shell out 25-26k
You rather Get the Galaxy S or Nexus S comes to around Rs. 27,500
better functionality .better features.
If you are only interested in Screen size then go for the HD7.
Nothing is really good as far as Im concerned.
So please do your research before purchase.
(Im currently regretting it)
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I agree with you on the screen size bit. And NExus S and all I think is out. For some very strange reason, I am done with Android..Don't like it at all after seeing WP7...don't ask y
Razultull said:
Honestly, i don't see any point in waiting its not like the hardware is going to get better. Microsoft is releasing an update to Windows phone 7 at the end of the month that makes the phone even faster, preserves battery life and adds copy and paste among others.
Theyve done a really good job for a 1.0 OS release, however it is clear that there are several small features missing(like msg forwarding). If this isnt going to hinder you too much i would urge you to go with the hd7
Dont be swayed by the emergence of dual core phones, there are no dual core ready apps yet, and that will take time.
As for the HD7, it has the biggest screen out there, and it is really really fast. I love the responsive UI and the front panel which actually looks quite subtle and modest(as opposed to the flashy samsung omnia which looks gaudy).
Sorry for the delayed reply.
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Hey thanx for ur reply...But I have a little disconnect with your opinion of Omnia. I honestly think that the colours on Omnia 7 are bright and colourful and HD7 lacks that.
Look at this pic:
http://gallery.me.com/o.khademi/100025/HD7 v O7/web.jpg?ver=12896154820001
The fuschia pink looks like fuschia pink on the Omnia. But on the HD7 it looks like baby pink.
And this is the case with all the reviews I have seen on YouTube and elsewhere.
So I think I have changed my mind and am mostly going to but Omnia 7 (WHEN it hits India that is).
But thanx anyways.

Razultull said:
Yes, i own the HD7, have been for a few days now. Everything seems to work like in any other country. The UI is fantastic even though it seems a bit Kaccha(unripe). Of course its 7.0 so
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I'm sorry but nothing works in India. Whenever I try to use/download an app through zune or through marketplace on the handphone....I get the message that this feature is not available in your country.
Zune suggested making another live account in the US & asked me to change my region/location on my PC....even that did not work. Dunno why did they launch this phone in India.
I simply hate what they have done with WMP7 in the process of trying to mimic iPhone. Even iPhone users have access/connectivity to outlook & this does not have it. I was a hardcore user of windows phone for the last maybe 15 odd years, but not after this. Cannot sync with outlook, cannot copy excel files, cannot browse the phone for files directly, cannot customize stuff etc. etc. Better to go with iPhone or any other phone than with WMP7.
Just my 2 bit along with some facts.

Asheesh said:
I'm sorry but nothing works in India. Whenever I try to use/download an app through zune or through marketplace on the handphone....I get the message that this feature is not available in your country.
Zune suggested making another live account in the US & asked me to change my region/location on my PC....even that did not work. Dunno why did they launch this phone in India.
I simply hate what they have done with WMP7 in the process of trying to mimic iPhone. Even iPhone users have access/connectivity to outlook & this does not have it. I was a hardcore user of windows phone for the last maybe 15 odd years, but not after this. Cannot sync with outlook, cannot copy excel files, cannot browse the phone for files directly, cannot customize stuff etc. etc. Better to go with iPhone or any other phone than with WMP7.
Just my 2 bit along with some facts.
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hey dude...I got my HD7 and believe me, everything works like a charm.
Here is one thing you have to keep in mind: MAKE Sure all all the accounts have the country as 'US (United States)' May it be your phone's country, your Live account's country, your computer's country...
Try resetting your phone (u might lose data) and when on the next startup it asks (it asked me and I was clever to click US) just click on United States...everything else will follow...
Cheers! Hope I was helpful...PM me if you have any questions...

Asheesh said:
I'm sorry but nothing works in India. Whenever I try to use/download an app through zune or through marketplace on the handphone....I get the message that this feature is not available in your country.
Zune suggested making another live account in the US & asked me to change my region/location on my PC....even that did not work. Dunno why did they launch this phone in India.
I simply hate what they have done with WMP7 in the process of trying to mimic iPhone. Even iPhone users have access/connectivity to outlook & this does not have it. I was a hardcore user of windows phone for the last maybe 15 odd years, but not after this. Cannot sync with outlook, cannot copy excel files, cannot browse the phone for files directly, cannot customize stuff etc. etc. Better to go with iPhone or any other phone than with WMP7.
Just my 2 bit along with some facts.
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HTC has actually launched these phones in India before Microsoft has launched WP7 here, hence the problems.
If you have everything set to U.S. accounts, it works perfectly. I've had my TMoUS HD7 (which I picked up back home in NY) on Vodafone in Mumbai since November.

guys,
got one in dec for 15K on Craigslist from the US.. T-mobile.. since it is us, i can even use all market apps here.. couldnt be happier...

I have got a T-Mobile branded HD7 and wanted to know if any of you guys have tried 3G on HD7 (T-Mobile)?

HD7
Hows the overall build quality ?
Hows the Music and VIdeo quality also ?
ANd hows the Battery life also ?

devjadeja said:
Hows the overall build quality ?
Hows the Music and VIdeo quality also ?
ANd hows the Battery life also ?
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Build quality's pretty solid. Just a slight notch below the HD2, but still almost on par with the best in the industry.
Audio's pretty good (download HTC's Sound Enhancer app and you can enable SRS Enhancement- makes a big difference) and video's great (as you'd expect on such a large screen). The screen's not quite as eye-popping as the AMOLED or Super LCD panels in some other WP7/Android phones, but I still prefer having the larger screen size.
Battery life is about average for a big smartphone. I typically charge it at night, so as long as it lasts for a full day of moderate to heavy use (which it does), it's fine for me. If I forget to charge, it'll last through most of a second day (of light use).

All Android devices need continued os and bug fix updates

http://www.facebook.com/motorola?sk=wall&filter=1 click the link people like it and comment on it.
I have seen first hand proof of this working. I had an evo 3d. Htc decided all futre devices would have locked bootliaders well that made alot of people angry. Someone posted a thread on xda suggesting we let htc know that is not gna fly. So it turnd out thousands of people got on there facebook wall and twitter. Guess what the next day htc released a statement saying that they wanted too keep there coustamers happy and that the bootloader would be unlocked. They were. Id like to be able too have a device and not have too get a new one juzt because moto or htc or sammy wants too put them out constantly get people too buy them and then ditch them and out out another. The atrix is 100 percent capable of runing ics and theres no excuae for it l not too recieve it just because moto wants people too buy new devices every couple months. I know many many people feel the same way well as i said we have the power too change that if people would stop bickering and take it seriously. And also if moto started supporting devices longer not just bug fixes but the new android flavors. Id definately make my next device a moto it would do nothing but benefit them

Why are we discussing/petitioning something that we don't know? Has it been set in stone that manufacturers will not support us anymore or is this all stemming from paranoia?

Because it is the trend. And the atrix 2 has been released already. All the manufactures with the exception of sammy have been doing this more and more lately abandoning. Devices. And pumping out new ones. At a very fast pace

So you are saying they are not going to support the atrix anymore since they released the atrix 2? I'd rather wait till this actually happens before i draw a conclusion. e.g. when ICS gets released and they say they are not going to update the atrix.

Kailkti said:
So you are saying they are not going to support the atrix anymore since they released the atrix 2? I'd rather wait till this actually happens before i draw a conclusion. e.g. when ICS gets released and they say they are not going to update the atrix.
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Look at the original Incredible.
My wife's one has been turned to **** since the 2.3.4 update, and nothing from HTC, and Verizon pretty much said too bad so sad. Buy another phone or deal with it.
So yes, support will be dropped for older models whether you like to assumed it or not.

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Look at the original Incredible.
My wife's one has been turned to **** since the 2.3.4 update, and nothing from HTC, and Verizon pretty much said too bad so sad. Buy another phone or deal with it.
So yes, support will be dropped for older models whether you like to assumed it or not.
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No it is obvious support is going to be dropped for old models. But he is implying that models released this year will not get support.

I think for every $10 a phone costs over $50 on launch day (on contract) is how many months it should be updated for. So a $300 phone should be kept updated for 25 months. So this would either keep phone prices lower or keep them updated.

Facebook is a poor way of getting the attention of corporations. You want them to change? Buy a nexus phone. Money talks.

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No it is obvious support is going to be dropped for old models. But he is implying that models released this year will not get support.
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I think ICS only has support for Armv7 currently, so phones with those SoCs will get updated. However, phones using custom UIs will experience a longer waiting time, maybe around early Q1 of 2012. HTC has released like 1000 phones in the last few months and I doubt most will get ICS soon, not sure if Moto will bother at all. But it might be better to wait and actually see what goes down, like you said.

Has HTC in fact locked a boot loader or withheld hardware drivers?
I intend for my next phone to be HTC just because of the hell Samsung put us though trying to get GB on the i9000.

Handsome Rob said:
Has HTC in fact locked a boot loader or withheld hardware drivers?
I intend for my next phone to be HTC just because of the hell Samsung put us though trying to get GB on the i9000.
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HTC new phones i believe i read come locked.
You can unlock them direct with HTC, but you loose all warranty. As per HTC.

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HTC new phones i believe i read come locked.
You can unlock them direct with HTC, but you loose all warranty. As per HTC.
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As I understand it, you lose all ROM related warranty, so for instance if your screen fails then you're still covered.

Motorola unlocking bootloaders ??
you should check this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316722

I had a motorola xt720.... not the best phone..but was ok. Motorola decided to stop supporting it within 4 months of launch or something stupid like that. No new updates no nothing. And still insisted on the bootloader staying locked so the dev's found it alot harder to do their job for them.
I will never ever buy a motorola product again.
The market is fairly competitive ... don't buy from companies that pull this crap

Buyers Remorse- Need help.

I bought a HD7 two days ago and am having serious buyers remorse every time I go into threads looking into the future of the device ranging from roms to regular apps.
I have a touch pro 2 as well as an HD2. I bought the HD7 for 150$ and its Tmo branded, I already RSPL'd it and am on Deep Shining I just want to know everyones opinion on the future of the phone.
Any help on reaching a decision is appreciated.

i came from Touch Pro2, as well. why the buyers' remorse with HD7?

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i came from Touch Pro2, as well. why the buyers' remorse with HD7?
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I'm not saying the phone is bad it looks really really nice the reason I am having buyer's remorse is because of the future of the phone. I keep seeing threads where people have given up on the phone and about future roms/apps.
That's really the only problem I have, just cant tell how long the phones legs will be for the future compared to the TP2 and the HD2.

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I'm not saying the phone is bad it looks really really nice the reason I am having buyer's remorse is because of the future of the phone. I keep seeing threads where people have given up on the phone and about future roms/apps.
That's really the only problem I have, just cant tell how long the phones legs will be for the future compared to the TP2 and the HD2.
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the HD7 will be getting confirmed updates through to Apollo, aka WP8.
no sure what apps you can't find, but i have found every app i have needed/wanted.
Windows Phone is still in its infancy, it will only get better with age.

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I'm not saying the phone is bad it looks really really nice the reason I am having buyer's remorse is because of the future of the phone. I keep seeing threads where people have given up on the phone and about future roms/apps.
That's really the only problem I have, just cant tell how long the phones legs will be for the future compared to the TP2 and the HD2.
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i had a TP2 very sluggish and had so many issues.. i am using my HD7 for a year now and no issues at all...
i am very happy with it and i will be moving on to Nokia or titan in jan or feb...

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i am very happy with it and i will be moving on to Nokia or titan in jan or feb...
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really, already? i am available for an upgrade, but i am waiting for WP8 and HD screens.

See thats what I mean. Lots of people are leaving the phone so fast, I barely got the phone and have an upgrade in Feb.
I was just wondering if it would be better to just return it and wait till Feb/March for a better phone.

grifter024 said:
See thats what I mean. Lots of people are leaving the phone so fast, I barely got the phone and have an upgrade in Feb.
I was just wondering if it would be better to just return it and wait till Feb/March for a better phone.
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i am not sure why, either.
only advantage the HTC Titan has is better camera(s)/cpu, i find the large screen a disadvantage because of the resolution.
all the Nokia phones have only the cpu going for it, everything else is lame compared to HD7.

Was decidng to take it back to the store and look for the phone on craigslist but even there almost noone has the phone! I barely find a handful of people with the phone but everyone is trying ot sell that Evo 3D.
I am thinking returning the phone and just lurking craigslist for the phone but I dont know if people will be selling it or if it will die off quickly which it seems to have done.