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THIS IS NOT A FIX, JUST A WORKAROUND FOR PEOPLE WHO REALLY WANT TO WATCH GOOD QUALITY MOVIES ON THEIR KAISER
SOME CONVERTING MAY BE REQUIRED
Hi All,
I'm posting this to try and help people who are in this large boat of people claiming their TyTN II plays movies terribly.
I know it's all over the forum at the minute, the fact that people can't seem to play movies on their TyTN II, however I experience more than acceptable movie performance, and this is what I do:
I ensure my movies are .avi (if not, I use Kingdia Video Converter which works wonders)
I then Shrink the videos down to QVGA size (using Ashampoo Movie Shrink & Burn). This ensures that the file size is small, and quality is adjusted for that "just right" viewing size on the phone screen.
And to play them I use TCPMP with the FLV 0.4.2 plugin. Using the settings below:
in "Select Page" > "Buffering" configure it to match the following:
Normal buffer size: 1148KB
Preload at underrun: 5%
Preload for audio: 64KB
Also, if you are experiencing any "out-of-sync" audio, to remove any Lag, navigate to 'Select Page -> Advanced' and set 'Manual A/V offset +/-' to anywhere between'-100 to -300' (fiddle with it untill it's how you want it).
Now i could be getting this all wrong, and my idea of "Good quality Movie Playback" is not actually good quality. However, can I please suggest someone tries my methods above and post's their thoughts? And if you already use the setup above, what do you think?
My personal complaints on the Kaiser's movie playback are to do with the playing of the ripped DVDs over wi-fi from my desktop. It's annoying that my less powerful iPaq plays these files flawlessly, yet the supposedly more powerful Kaiser makes it unwatchably jumpy.
I'm not too sure about other people but I assumed it was the same? I've not actually tried encoding anything directly for the Kaiser to check performance. I've just accepted that for now unless the drivers are released it's just not a device to be used for playing back high quality video .
Audio said:
Hi All,
I'm posting this to try and help people who are in this large boat of people claiming their TyTN II plys movies terribly.
I know it's all over the forum at the minute, the fact that people can't seem to play movies on their TyTN II, however I experience more than acceptable movie performance, and this is what I do:
I ensure my movies are .avi (if not, I use Kingdia Video Converter which works wonders)
I then Shrink the videos down to QVGA size (using Ashampoo Movie Shrink & Burn). This ensures that the file size is small, and quality is adjusted for that "just right" viewing size on the phone screen.
And to play them I use TCPMP with the FLV 0.4.2 plugin.
Now i could be getting this all wrong, and my idea of "Good quality Movie Playback" is not actually good quality. However, can I please suggest someone tries my methods above and post's their thoughts? And if you already use the setup above, what do you think?
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My two cents is that none of us want to convert movies and waste tons of time. if a movie X in format Y played well on the Tytn I, why can it not play at least as good on a Tytn II? Thanks for the advice, though this is not the solution most of users are looking for
ceevee369 said:
My two cents is that none of us want to convert movies and waste tons of time. if a movie X in format Y played well on the Tytn I, why can it not play at least as good on a Tytn II? Thanks for the advice, though this is not the solution most of users are looking for
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I completely understand, if I could make a solution for everybody, i would
I suppose my suggestion is for people who perhaps want to watch movies while away on holiday, or on a long business trip, etc.
I just want to make people aware that you can watch high quality movies on the TyTN II, even if you do have to mess abit.
As for the time it takes to convert, it's surprisingly quick. We're not talking hours, but minutes.
Anyhow, let's keep our fingers crossed for the guys trying to create new drivers, they will be our true saviour!
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My two cents is that none of us want to convert movies and waste tons of time. if a movie X in format Y played well on the Tytn I, why can it not play at least as good on a Tytn II? Thanks for the advice, though this is not the solution most of users are looking for
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Amen to that.
I don't have a huge collection to convert, but enough that it would be a major hassle to have a second encoding of everything. And the reason I like to encode to a higher quality is so that I can play the same vid on any machine I won and get passable quality. If I encode to 320x240 and play it even 1/2 screen on my 12" tablet, it looks horrible. 620 x 480 looks way better and evn look OK at full screen.
Plus, I'd like to just be able to play the little snippits I record on my camera. They are avi from a cheapo Cannon point and shoot which costs less than $200.
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OK then, put it this way:
I couldn't care less if you wanted a file of 640 x 480, or if you find that my suggestion would be a hassle, in fact, I couldn't care less what you do in any aspect of your life, personally I'd rather read a book or watch tv...
The fact is, there is a way to play back movies with Excellent quality, and I have showed you that way. Take the suggestion, do with it what you will, but don't reply complaining that I haven't changed your life forever, i've simply offered a suggestion... that's it.
Audio said:
Hi All,
I'm posting this to try and help people who are in this large boat of people claiming their TyTN II plys movies terribly.
I know it's all over the forum at the minute, the fact that people can't seem to play movies on their TyTN II, however I experience more than acceptable movie performance, and this is what I do:
I ensure my movies are .avi (if not, I use Kingdia Video Converter which works wonders)
I then Shrink the videos down to QVGA size (using Ashampoo Movie Shrink & Burn). This ensures that the file size is small, and quality is adjusted for that "just right" viewing size on the phone screen.
And to play them I use TCPMP with the FLV 0.4.2 plugin.
Now i could be getting this all wrong, and my idea of "Good quality Movie Playback" is not actually good quality. However, can I please suggest someone tries my methods above and post's their thoughts? And if you already use the setup above, what do you think?
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Once I get a memory card tonight, I would like to try your method. Additionally, I wonder if we could just convert the movie into 320x240 format directly. Sorry I am so new to TyTn II / Tilt as I just bought the ATT Tilt as my first PDA phone. However, I want to convert some DVD movies into memory cards so I can watch it on the road / travel.
Thanks for the suggestions / ideas.
plchan said:
Once I get a memory card tonight, I would like to try your method. Additionally, I wonder if we could just convert the movie into 320x240 format directly. Sorry I am so new to TyTn II / Tilt as I just bought the ATT Tilt as my first PDA phone. However, I want to convert some DVD movies into memory cards so I can watch it on the road / travel.
Thanks for the suggestions / ideas.
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Hi plchan,
to be perfectly honest, I've no idea how other file types play, as all the films I "Source" are mostly .avi's anyway. However TCPMP has codec for loads of different file types, so I don't see a problem with Shrinking different file types straight to 320 x 240.
You shouldn't have to convert the movies. That's the whole problem.
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You shouldn't have to convert the movies. That's the whole problem.
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YES I KNOW... I'm not stupid and certainly am not a miracle worker... did you even bother to read ANY of the threads in here apart from the first one? Don't add comments if you don't read the thread first.
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OK then, put it this way:
I couldn't care less if you wanted a file of 640 x 480, or if you find that my suggestion would be a hassle, in fact, I couldn't care less what you do in any aspect of your life, personally I'd rather read a book or watch tv...
The fact is, there is a way to play back movies with Excellent quality, and I have showed you that way. Take the suggestion, do with it what you will, but don't reply complaining that I haven't changed your life forever, i've simply offered a suggestion... that's it.
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It's not you that people are angry with, it's HTC .
I think you may have put a few people, myself included, into defensive mode with your first post. It sounded to me like you were saying that the video playback problems on the Kaiser were a myth and so you had a few people explaining how it wasn't.
No-one's complaining to you, they're just giving their opinion on how the Kaiser has a video playback problem because from you first post you seemed to not see it.
Yeah your right se0siris, it didn't seem so at the time, but reading back my thread title does give off the wrong impression. I'll get something sorted out...
I know people aren't angry with me (or at least I hope not), and I, too, am angry at HTC for this issue, but watching movies is something I like doing, and am sure other people like doing too, so I just wanted to make people aware that it can be done (even if you have to do it a specific way, using a specific thing, whilst saying a specific magic word, and jumping up and down in a specific way, in a specific location )
And at least I've provided help to one person, which, at the end of the day, makes it all worth while
EDIT: I've added a BIG BOLD Subtitle to stop people getting the wrong impression.
All my movies are resized to 320*240.
It's indeed a bit of a workaround, but then again, smaller movies = less space = more movies
I tried it, and yes it is a nice workaround!
Stay0Puft said:
All my movies are resized to 320*240.
It's indeed a bit of a workaround, but then again, smaller movies = less space = more movies
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Brilliant way of putting it!
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Brilliant way of putting it!
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Re-encoding always seemed to me to be a pretty obvious workaround for the problem. Certainly, I've never bothered to drop a 750mb movie on my SD card... Not when I can drop 2 or 3 in that space after a couple of hours!
Mind you, some movies still have problems... Especially if there's a lot of screen action going on.
FloatingFatMan said:
Re-encoding always seemed to me to be a pretty obvious workaround for the problem. Certainly, I've never bothered to drop a 750mb movie on my SD card... Not when I can drop 2 or 3 in that space after a couple of hours!
Mind you, some movies still have problems... Especially if there's a lot of screen action going on.
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I agree, However simple things are often missed.
Regarding some movies still having problems... I've never had an issue.. But saying that, I do ensure all my movies are .avi (which I do anyway, regardless of whether its for the Kaiser, cos i can fit 4 or 5 .avi's on to a DVD and watch them on the TV if need be), and all are shrinked using Ashampoo.
I am very against re-encoding. i had a zune and I HATED how you had to rencode all my stuff just to watch it on the device.
That was partially the reason I sold it and bought this device, now I'm just hoping for a fix on the driver issue so that it will be justified.
Now how much faster is encoding a movie so it's big enough to fit on the main memory compare to placing a movie on the SD? Don't have the time to test, but if someone knows...please share your experience. If I was to watch movies on my tilt, I prefer to be smooth quality.
Yea, I am in the process of converting some of my DVDs also. I'm going to try the programs you mentioned because I'm currently using Aimersoft DVD Ripper and even at 320X240, I'm getting 900 MB files
One related question:
What do I change the buffer settings to on the Core Media Player? It's telling me I need to change them but I don't know what values to put in.
Thanks in advance,
-HAZE-
I bought the acer m900 with its 3.8 vga and then bought coreplayer....... im itching to see a movie on this device,,,,,,,,
Where do I buy a movie?
No wonder apple is kicking but in mobile entertainment. I have been searching for hours and still cant find an easy way to get a movie onto my device.
I have found that you can read a dozen threads for hours and download multiple files to rip a DVD and then convert it.
I just want to go to a site and pay a one time 15 dollar fee and download a movie.
I think its possible in itunes and will coreplayer play the movie?
$15 buy the movie on DVD and convert with one of the many free tools available, worth it just for a hard-copy
You have some choices
WM is not as simple to set up as Apple, but it's not locked down the way Apple is either, and I'm fine with that. With that out of the way, there are a few ways you can get movies onto your device:
If you want to go the rip and convert route AudialsOne is a great program to use. You can check it our here :
http://audials.com/en/free_music_videos_downloads/index.html
I have my cable connected to my PC tuner card and use Windows Media Center to capture movies and TV, which can then be synched with my Tilt and watched wherever.
You can also of course DL movies from torrents or Usenet, which will play on your device.
I wish MS would add movies to the Zune Marketplace, because that media is also playable on our phones, but so far it is only TV.
I hope that helps
well the best way would be converting the movies of ur choice through a converter..dont waste ur money buyin movies from sites..which u dont even know will play perfectly on ur device..n u end up wasting money on a converter..
I guess I was barking up the wrong tree. Thanks for the tun around. Ive never ripped a dvd or converted but I went to download.com and downloaded WinX DVD Ripper and its converting Superman right now.
I've got the Touch HD and I love to watch movies on it. WVGA screens are making it truly possible on mobile phones, although FWVGA would be better, due to the extra 54 pixels in width (854x480), which is the more native 16:9 aspect.
Even though it's easier getting movies on an iphone, I don't think it's screen is anywhere near as suitable for movies. Too low-res (below SD resolution), too square. 2:3 is troublesome even for youtube, lol.
jamespaulritter said:
I guess I was barking up the wrong tree. Thanks for the tun around. Ive never ripped a dvd or converted but I went to download.com and downloaded WinX DVD Ripper and its converting Superman right now.
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Glad you getting there
The software i use:
Magic DVD Ripper : Awesome quality DVD Rips
A-One FLV to AVI : Very easy converter for compressing to Mobile format don't be fooled by the name as it will convert anything to .mp4 etc
Just a couple of hints.
Encode to resolution of device
Keep the Audio quality down as no phones are great and will keep overall file size down.
Same framerate as sorce you can find source framerate via right click properties on sorce .avi etc "otherwise you will get the classic 2-1 pulldown effect jittery on pans etc"
Hope that helps.
PocketDivx Encoder (google it) will convert anything your PC has codecs for. Works a treat and despite its name, it will convert to just about any device going including a full 1080p TV
Monty Burns said:
PocketDivx Encoder (google it) will convert anything your PC has codecs for. Works a treat and despite its name, it will convert to just about any device going including a full 1080p TV
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Hello Monty,
That s a funny coincidence. Thats the one I downloaded. I'm on my 3rd attempt to place a movie on the device. The first time I couldn't find the file when it was finished. The second time the movie had subtitles because I forgot to uncheck the option. And now this 3rd time it is running with setting recomendations I got in another thread and it is taking forever. I started it it at 5am and now its 12:30 and its 3/4ths done on a 150 minute movie.
WinX DVD Ripper video format H264
With PocketDivx Encoder i was real confused by the aspect settings. I t has 2 boxes that are adjustable and I couldn't get either to read 800X480.
Everything new has a learning curve. The more flexibility the more you have to learn. There is always dumbed down options available and these are for people who have money and are too lazy to learn and have to pay somebody to do it for them; people like this are held hostage forever more.
When people opt for learning they keep their brains working till old age but young people don't ever think they will ever get old. I've got a history of Alzheimer's in the family so I am aware of keeping my brain cells ticking by learning new tricks every day.
I've used to use pocketdivX but the small screens are too tiring for me now and I've stopped encoding (until I get one of those video-goggles that make video BIG!!!). Never had a problem to encode for the HTC Universal. Great screen.
crissg said:
WM is not as simple to set up as Apple, but it's not locked down the way Apple is either, and I'm fine with that. With that out of the way, there are a few ways you can get movies onto your device:
If you want to go the rip and convert route AudialsOne is a great program to use. You can check it our here :
http://audials.com/en/free_music_videos_downloads/index.html
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Hello,
Was wondering if u use that app u were talking about.Is it reliable?
I've used it for over a year with no issues.
Converts music and movies, can captures internet streams as well. Very useful.
Great, thanks a lot for the info about that Audials One app.This is definitely worth checking out, going to try it myself.
movieload.in its a free site to download mobile movies and a file will be abt 60 mb which downloads in abt few mins
The only reliable tool to convert video I've found so far is Adobe Premiere, which is a bit pricey. Most freely available tools suck, unless you use ffmpeg on Linux (with a decent GUI).
so here's my issue. it seems the video player itself has issues displaying 1920x1080 video. 1280x720 works fine, same video. same bitrate, same everything. this seems crocked.
do we know of any workaround for getting a 1080p to work. i've heard of people pulling it off, but i've spent three hours on this and i really believe it to be the player. i've tried third party clients and they're about 5fps. it's irksome.
help plz?
You know we have two different video players right? We have video player, and we also have movie player or something else like that. Try it.
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What do you expect to get from playing such large videos on the Cappy? I transcode mine to 720X480 in .mkv and they are simply stunning with zero playback issues. The Cappy supports the low end HD resolution of 1280X720, not the Blu-Ray rez of 1920X1080. And it supports that rez in shooting video so that it can be played back on a larger screen. There's no benefit to playing back videos that size on the device. Resize them, you won't notice any difference in picture quality and you'll save a ton of storage space.
I have 315 bluray movies half are 1080p other is 720p so half of my media is watchable on my cappy and my tab. I use Tversity to stream to my ps3 and everything but if there was away to make it only transcode 720p to mobile devices or have a player that will resize it for us that would be awesome.
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May be more of a codec problem than anything else.
While I never put anything bigger than 720p on my phone (since 1080p has no appreciable visual increase in quality on the phone screen, but a MUCH larger file size), I definitely have played 1080p on my phone before. Hence why I think it may simply be that 1080p MKV w/ certain codecs might not work. Remember that media files *legally* downloaded from the internet will often have slight variations in the parameters used when converting to MKV w/ x264/VC1/etc codec. Hence just because 2 files are "720p x264" in a Matroska container doesn't mean they are actually identically encoded. And the Galaxy S can sometimes be a bit picky about what formats it "automagically" supports and which it doesn't.
And by the way, as you clearly noticed, the "Video Player" app in Android is the only one to use the GPU to accelerate video playback. Other apps might work, but they will run the CPU way harder, and give you worse battery life. Monitoring the "time_in_state" to see what the CPU is running at, I can play 720p x264/MKV files with the CPU at only 400 MHz. Obviously, sometimes the default player won't play what you want, but it's much better to use it if at all possible.
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And by the way, as you clearly noticed, the "Video Player" app in Android is the only one to use the GPU to accelerate video playback. Other apps might work, but they will run the CPU way harder, and give you worse battery life. Monitoring the "time_in_state" to see what the CPU is running at, I can play 720p x264/MKV files with the CPU at only 400 MHz. Obviously, sometimes the default player won't play what you want, but it's much better to use it if at all possible.
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This is the main reason I stick with the built-in player. I was on a flight from Ft. Lauderdale to St. Louis to L.A. on Tuesday and I watched 3 movies of close to six hours total length. Landed in L.A. with 31% battery still remaining.
my reasons for wanting to play 1080p is irrelevant to the scenario, i'd just like to see it done.
i considered a codec issue shammy, but i extracted a 60second sample from my crank copy and left it in 1920x1080mkv and tried it. no dice. i handbraked it to 1920x1080mp4 no dice. i once again handbraked it to 1280x720mp4. worked fantastical without any change in any settings except res. hence why i think its a limitation on res rather than codec/bitrate.
i am just IRKED all around at this. time to hit the irc and start screaming at people until somebody gives me an answer huh lmfao
Square peg, round hole. Hope you find a big enough hammer.
cerjam said:
my reasons for wanting to play 1080p is irrelevant to the scenario, i'd just like to see it done.
i considered a codec issue shammy, but i extracted a 60second sample from my crank copy and left it in 1920x1080mkv and tried it. no dice. i handbraked it to 1920x1080mp4 no dice. i once again handbraked it to 1280x720mp4. worked fantastical without any change in any settings except res. hence why i think its a limitation on res rather than codec/bitrate.
i am just IRKED all around at this. time to hit the irc and start screaming at people until somebody gives me an answer huh lmfao
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Yea man I feel ya, why should you convert your movie to a realistic resolution for a 4" screen when you can ***** at other people to make it work. Doing anything yourself is for chumps.
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Its nice to be able to play 1080p why convert all your media when your ps3 and Xbox can play it at that size. Don't wish to lose quality on my other devices
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maxjivi05 said:
Its nice to be able to play 1080p why convert all your media when your ps3 and Xbox can play it at that size. Don't wish to lose quality on my other devices
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How do you lose quality by resizing for the device you'll be playing on? All those extra pixels of HD resolution on a 800X420 screen do not yield better quality, they just require more CPU/GPU to process and more storage space. Nothing is gained by playing HD-sized videos on the Cappy. Absolutely nothing.
I own a small HD video production company in L.A., but don't take my word for it.
I was talking about playing the same media file from my Ps3 on my tv. I'd rather not convert my 1080p files to 720 just for my hand held I'd rather have a better way to do all of it using the files I currently have. Tversity works good but not perfect for over 3G but when I had my iPhone it would play pretty good using airvideo over 3G but there has to be something to make it all work
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cerjam said:
my reasons for wanting to play 1080p is irrelevant to the scenario, i'd just like to see it done.
i considered a codec issue shammy, but i extracted a 60second sample from my crank copy and left it in 1920x1080mkv and tried it. no dice. i handbraked it to 1920x1080mp4 no dice. i once again handbraked it to 1280x720mp4. worked fantastical without any change in any settings except res. hence why i think its a limitation on res rather than codec/bitrate.
i am just IRKED all around at this. time to hit the irc and start screaming at people until somebody gives me an answer huh lmfao
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It would be nice to be able to do this I suppose..but if you don't mind...Why ?
If you play it on any other thing but your phone..you will not really benefit from having it this way..and also..you won't really have enough storage to hold it to be able to watch a full featured film.
Until Samsung gets off their asses and fixes the issue with making the usb-hdmi cable you will never get the output capable of seeing any difference than what you can easily do right now at 720p...If you want to ***** about something...that is what I would ***** about..They had those cables available for 1 month..and not many was ever shipped out to the stores when they introduced the phone...I've e-mailed them every week since October and the only reply is they are working on it...so...I'm not holding my breath on seeing it anytime soon since they are working on the next line of phones already..
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i'll probably get xbanned by the-equinoxe for this post, but it'll be worth it.
Clienterror:
I was doing my best to not "*****" at you "other people". If I wanted to ***** i'd be obviously *****ing, not laughing about it. How about I send you my 12TB of video and you can convert it all into 480p, would that suffice for you? since you have such an issue with what I do with my device and provide absolutely no helpful solution, you do it! I sure hope you have couple dual 12core opterons sitting around, because it's gonna take you awhile. currently, encoding crank.mkv time remaining: 1h5m. now realistically i'd never convert my entire collection, just whatever video I want to watch at the time. but guess what? When i'm leaving or doing something I do not have an hour to wait. It's almost faster to download a 480p copy, you realize that right. converting while dealing with 1080p is not fast, nowhere near it. I find it unlikely you have any experience in the matter, i'm sure i've put more time and effort into this than your useless 30 second out of line response, so "chump" take the attitude and leave my thread please.
Miami_Son:
Time is gained. something new and fun is gained, every dev and intelligent person i've talked to(i'm a regular in the irc, im sure .. i've ran into a few) has tried it. Just because your personal opinion you see no reason or purpose to it, does not mean others see it that way. and not to be an ass here, but I find it surprising anybody who owns a company relating to high definition video would refer to resolution as rez.
Mac11700:
Why? Because I can. Everyone should want to do. You all see me trying to play 1080 on my phone as insane, and to me it's insane for you to NOT want to watch it on your device. I wont have enough space? i've got 32gb in my galaxys, i can fit three 1080ps. I am not stupid, and you all should not assume I am.
it's very irky that you all jump on a question without any real input on the scenario, except for the basic obvious simplest answer which really isnt helpful to the situation rather than putting in some thought and trying to solve the issue.
now: has ANYONE else made any progress with it. any input regarding 1080p on the galaxys could help solve this issue. please and thank you.
alright ive been doing some more fiddling and came up wiht the following results.
using container mkv, and AVC as codec.
i started with 1920x1080 crank 60s sample gone through handbrake reducing it to about 6mb.
1920x1080 through
1282x726 do not play. at all. unknown file.
1280x720 and below play without issue, and play damn well.
the file is exactly the same codec and container, just resized. so i believe it to be an issue with the player.
http://cerjturb.net/u/crank_test_1080p.mkv
does this play on ANYONES device inside video player.
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Miami_Son:
Time is gained. something new and fun is gained, every dev and intelligent person i've talked to(i'm a regular in the irc, im sure .. i've ran into a few) has tried it. Just because your personal opinion you see no reason or purpose to it, does not mean others see it that way. and not to be an ass here, but I find it surprising anybody who owns a company relating to high definition video would refer to resolution as rez.
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Ooh, my internet shorthand has revealed me as a fraud. You got me.
Your insistence on trying to play HD videos larger than what the device is designed for brought to mind a good analogy. You sound like a guy who bought a nice sports car and is appalled at finding out he can't run it in the Indy 500.
cerjam said:
1920x1080 through
1282x726 do not play. at all. unknown file.
1280x720 and below play without issue, and play damn well.
the file is exactly the same codec and container, just resized. so i believe it to be an issue with the player.
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Could it possibly be that your video is simply beyond what the player and/or the device is designed to handle? Square peg, round hole, I say. 1280x720 is indeed within the scope of the HD specification, so there is no fraud in saying the device can play HD content. It just can't play the high end of the HD spectrum. Live with it or get another device.
He's just trying to find away to not reconvert 3,000 hours of videos... if there was away for the computer to transcode to 720p to the device but leave it 1080p for the ps3 but not make 2 files for one video.... how hard is it to want that??? Tversity works for that but it don't detect the device as a mobile device that wants 720p it either does 1080 or goes way low and looks like crap... we want it to do both 720p for they device Ans 1080p for the ps3 at the same time.
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He's just trying to find away to not reconvert 3,000 hours of videos... if there was away for the computer to transcode to 720p to the device but leave it 1080p for the ps3 but not make 2 files for one video.... how hard is it to want that??? Tversity works for that but it don't detect the device as a mobile device that wants 720p it either does 1080 or goes way low and looks like crap... we want it to do both 720p for they device Ans 1080p for the ps3 at the same time.
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I understand that, but it's like complaining that his old tube TV won't display HD signals. Or that his DVD player won't play BD discs. It just wasn't designed to do it. For a device to transcode 1080p to 720p on the fly would require a lot more horsepower than what the Captivate has under the hood. Accept and move on.
First, I understand why you want this; it's a matter of convenience and I don't blame you.
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the file is exactly the same codec and container, just resized. so i believe it to be an issue with the player.
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It may be the same codec and container, but what is the bitrate? A lot more data may have to be pumped through the i/o system and larger frames are going to have to be resampled. I'm not saying it is impossible on the hardware, but it might be. I seriously doubt that it's just a matter of some bug, oversight, or intentional disabling of 1080p without good reason.
Guys, I want to share with you
I finally realize that the money I spend out to buy nook color is not worth it. beside used for browsing, youtube, playing game, I also want to use it for playing video, however when I try to play MKV files, the video and sound is out of sync, and when I try to play AVI file in mobo player, it can't be played and I switch to use QQPlayer and it plays fine however some frame is skipping so the video seems a bit laggy. THIS IS SO DISAPPOINTING, nowadays most video files are in MKV format, why this tablet is not supporting to play MKV video compare to other tablets?
FOr the same price I can get tabulet (tablet from china), it can play video file well compare to nook, the only problems maybe it will have slower update compare to phiremod. Now tell me, why you wanna buy a Nook color while the same amount of money can be used to buy other tablets or top up a bit to buy other tablet that can play video files.
What speed is your SD? I am running Gingerbread on a 16GB class 6 card and have no issues playing AVI files in Moboplayer.
If I was looking to buy a tablet today I would not buy a Nook, got mine for $200. But would instead buy the Asus Transformer if they ever get any in stock.
I also have no problem playing videos. That said, I've never tried an MKV file, as I've never heard of it. So I definitely can't support your assertion that most videos are in the format these days. But I'll have to trust you that the NC has troubles playing it.
I have no trouble playing mkv files using mobo player. I am using CM7 with OC Kernel 04/24.
Im watching the rite now on my nook color as we speak. Its very smooth and I'm using Mobo. So I dont see what you are talking about
Nook Color is an ereader that some people have converted to general tablet use. There is no reason why it would have its own video player.
reaper12 said:
I have no trouble playing mkv files using mobo player. I am using CM7 with OC Kernel 04/24.
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Hopefully it's still not too late for you to return the Nook. The Nook was never known for it's multimedia capabilities. It was designed and marketed as an e-Reader. It's great that the dev community is able to enhance the capabilities of the device. Good luck!
reaper12 said:
I have no trouble playing mkv files using mobo player. I am using CM7 with OC Kernel 04/24.
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i am using phiremod 6.2 with 720p quality, how about yours? I guess must be 480p quality
I got my NV on Saturday then rooted it and put CM7.0.2 stable on the emmc (not SD). I converted three movies in Handbrake using recommended settings found on XDA to MP4. I use Rockplayer and it works great. The movies are about 900mb in size with running length about 1hr 45 min and no problems.
The only video/audio sync issue I saw was using MLB.TV app but the is a common problem with MLB app. Playon MLB app works fine.
innosia said:
i am using phiremod 6.2 with 720p quality, how about yours? I guess must be 480p quality
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Phiremod 6.2 IS CM7, with some extra skinning.
Anyway, a little research will go a long way. The Nook does not have the hardware to play most 720P movie; though Mobo player will play a few quite well. The built in hardware decoding can only do up to 480P, and Mobo player, using certain CPU decoding pieces, can do some 720P.
BUt as it is, you would have known all this if you had just done some research beforehand. Video on the nook is a hot topic, and not something you would have to dig deep to find out about, including its weaknesses.
And please... what a load about the Chinese players. Yes, you can get a crap tablet for $150... that has a low res resistive screen, Android 2.1, no community, and no support (oh, and looks like a bad iPad knockoff to boot). But please, since you alone seem to know about them, please point us to another knockoff tablet that has such an amazing screen, great hardware (all that can hit 1.1Ghz, and most that can hit 1.3Ghz), for $200-$225 (best buy was having a $25 gift card sale recently)..
same, try rockplayer, works for me.. running rooted stock and draggin-dropping .avi's to a class 16 class 2 sd, they play fine.
Divine_Madcat said:
Phiremod 6.2 IS CM7, with some extra skinning.
Anyway, a little research will go a long way. The Nook does not have the hardware to play most 720P movie; though Mobo player will play a few quite well. The built in hardware decoding can only do up to 480P, and Mobo player, using certain CPU decoding pieces, can do some 720P.
BUt as it is, you would have known all this if you had just done some research beforehand. Video on the nook is a hot topic, and not something you would have to dig deep to find out about, including its weaknesses.
And please... what a load about the Chinese players. Yes, you can get a crap tablet for $150... that has a low res resistive screen, Android 2.1, no community, and no support (oh, and looks like a bad iPad knockoff to boot). But please, since you alone seem to know about them, please point us to another knockoff tablet that has such an amazing screen, great hardware (all that can hit 1.1Ghz, and most that can hit 1.3Ghz), for $200-$225 (best buy was having a $25 gift card sale recently)..
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if you know nothing about tabulet (china tablet that rebrand by indonesia company), then don't say anything. Though it is 700mhz it can play video well,
so what if nook can be overclocked to 1,3Ghz? Is there so many apps that is running in background that need the speed? It is not a pc, it is a tablet mostly for single or two task for simple like listening to music while reading, it is not for running many apps behind the scene such as rendering video or encoding
the different between those china tablet and nook is their graphic capabilities. Those china tablet, viewsonic tablet or asus tablet has better VGA and hardware decoding features that enable them to play video smoothly, unlike nook which is merely an over expensive e-reader that both expensive and yet unable to play video files well. And FYI, tabulet or china tablet is now moving to capacitive, though not much is capacitive but most new product is in capacitive screen, so forget about your idea that telling you all china tablet is resistive!
So go buy a "china tablet" then. What's the point in whining about something that everyone knows about beside trolling?
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...And please... what a load about the Chinese players. Yes, you can get a crap tablet for $150... that has a low res resistive screen, Android 2.1, no community, and no support (oh, and looks like a bad iPad knockoff to boot). But please, since you alone seem to know about them, please point us to another knockoff tablet that has such an amazing screen, great hardware (all that can hit 1.1Ghz, and most that can hit 1.3Ghz), for $200-$225 (best buy was having a $25 gift card sale recently)..
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Indeed. Everywhere I turn, I'm seeing more and more [email protected] tablets that are either running an old version of Android, have paltry memory, low res, horrible battery life, etc. Often times, it's a combination of ALL of these things. DealExtreme carries several pretty horrible tablets.
Innosia: That sucks that the nook isn't satisfying your needs. I can understand your frustration. What are you expecting by whining about it here? Do you want us to pass the plate around to fund a replacement for you? The only thing you're going to get, particularly here, is a lot of indignation. Again, that sucks that it doesn't do what you need it to do. Sell the damned thing on eBay or Craigslist before it declines further in value and buy yourself something that suits your needs.
I dont really see what the big deal is, reencode the videos. Itunes does that for IPOD/ipad devices, why cant you do that for the nook? Are you just saying your too lazy to use a template and reencode some videos you want to watch?
The nook was never marketed for its multimedia skills. The fact that it has a hw decoder at all, is pretty lucky. for 250 its the best device i found out there. it does everything i would want out of it. If i wanted more, i would have bought an IPAD.
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So go buy a "china tablet" then. What's the point in whining about something that everyone knows about beside trolling?
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I am not rich and I already cheated to buy nook and not able to afford a new tablet unless selling this one, I am not whining or trolling, what I am trying to point out here is for newbie who want to buy nook color, hopes they dont fall to the trap in buying nook color if they need playing video. I am just warning them, so they can use their money wisely. Be careful for B&N over expensive e-reader sales team
What were you expecting from a hack eReader?
Be serious. Its an ereader. All the rest is gravy. Whatever else you can do with it (besides read books) is awesome. Stop whining long enough to understand what you DID buy and what you DIDN'T buy. When you recognize the absolute awesomeness of what you bought has become you'll thank these fine folks for all their hard work.
Thanks everyone for all the hard work, done on your own time, for nothing in return.
I really appreciate it! Cheers m8s.
It sounds like you want a video-player more than a tablet. I'm wondering why you would come on here to post about how bad the NC is for your purposes? From all the posts I read it seems like you could easily read on here about what video types work and how to get them working smoothly. If you want something working out of the box, then return the nook and get it. If you want to fiddle with the thing until things work, then keep the NC. Simple
Sell it on eBay for about as much as you bought it for. They're still going for pretty high.
As has already been pointed out, re-encoding the video into an appropriate format does wonders for allowing it to play properly on the non-multimedia optimized nook.
FWIW, I've also noticed that different players have better luck with different formats. I currently have 3 video players installed (yx, Vital, and QQ) and have found that one of them will almost always properly play any of the couple hundred video's I already have on my media server.
Between iPhones, Xbox, Samsung Galaxy Tab, and some random other netbooks and devices, I've gotten a lot of experience at getting video to work on a lot of platforms. It would be great if AirVideo decided to do an Android client.
Hello all,
So i am trying to get the best experience possible after a quick viewing of gravity in 3d from a 2gb file a couple months ago.
I have done a lot of research and used anydvdhd to rip my store-bought Avatar3D to a 48gb file. Copy protection is stripped i believe and it will only let me make an iso because it is 3D.
I am trying to use handbrake to take that iso into the highest quality mp4 because i have to i think?
Although are people now able to go around the cinema? ive been out of it a couple months...
When im in handbrake it is telling me that the source must first be scanned...but i know i already did that.
Any help super appreciated.
Thank you!
bjmjpl said:
Hello all,
So i am trying to get the best experience possible after a quick viewing of gravity in 3d from a 2gb file a couple months ago.
I have done a lot of research and used anydvdhd to rip my store-bought Avatar3D to a 48gb file. Copy protection is stripped i believe and it will only let me make an iso because it is 3D.
I am trying to use handbrake to take that iso into the highest quality mp4 because i have to i think?
Although are people now able to go around the cinema? ive been out of it a couple months...
When im in handbrake it is telling me that the source must first be scanned...but i know i already did that.
Any help super appreciated.
Thank you!
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I personally just use DVDFab for everything, and I like to use full sbs 3D 720p for my movies (also handbrake doesn't handle 3D encodes as far as I am aware).
Use this guide for encoding 3D sbs-files on your own:
http://rodrigopolo.com/guias/ultimate-blu-ray-disc-3d-ripping-guide-en.html
Toss3 said:
I personally just use DVDFab for everything, and I like to use full sbs 3D 720p for my movies (also handbrake doesn't handle 3D encodes as far as I am aware).
Use this guide for encoding 3D sbs-files on your own:
http://rodrigopolo.com/guias/ultimate-blu-ray-disc-3d-ripping-guide-en.html
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The problem with DVD Fab is it is expensive and having that nagging watermark appear every so often isn't too appealing. Also, I was having a hell of a time trying to get it to rip my Hubble Imax 3D Blu-ray. It was chopping off the edges of the screen.
I also attempted to use IMToo, which worked, but the audio was out-of-sync.
BleedingPurist said:
The problem with DVD Fab is it is expensive and having that nagging watermark appear every so often isn't too appealing. Also, I was having a hell of a time trying to get it to rip my Hubble Imax 3D Blu-ray. It was chopping off the edges of the screen.
I also attempted to use IMToo, which worked, but the audio was out-of-sync.
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Try following the guide above, it should work for almost all blu-rays. I just find DVDFab easier.