SatNav software roundup - Desire HD Themes and Apps

So since moving to Android I have been trying to find "the perfect satnav" - but so far I've not had much luck and I find myself chopping and changing between the several that are available.
I'm used to TomTom Navigator 7 on Windows Mobile, which although was very basic, worked very well and did most things I needed. Unfortunately I can't seem to find the right balance on Android.
In researching this, I thought it would be useful to write up a quick post on the pros and cons I have found with each - and maybe others can throw in their 2 cents and other ideas - as well as hopefully suggestions on how I can get the most out of it.
So lets get started!
1. Google Maps Navigation
This is my joint favourite at the moment. The very best feature is that I can google search for an address, postcode or even place name and it will find it and get me there (though sometimes it's not too accurate!). I also like that once you arrive at the destination it will load up a StreetView picture of what I am supposed to be looking for - which is a really neat feature.
Obviously the disadvantages are that it gobbles up data, and that it's not exactly the most advanced in terms of features. Basic SatNav stuff like Points of Interest, Favourites and Speed Cameras are missing - which makes me somewhat sad. Also the UI, while very clean and functional, is missing some key items I have come to expect.
2. HTC Locations
This had a lot of potential, but it's unfortunately completely ruined by a couple of issues. Better start with the Pros. Obvious one is cached maps. Also the compass support, ease of access to maps and the ability to use google search are big plusses. However, it's seriously hampered by the lack of Postcode Lookup. Such a basic and well-used feature lacking from a SatNav product is just plain unacceptable. Also the "Footprints" system of favourites is pretty horrible to use and I can't see why having a basic faves system that actually works isn't implemented.
The "online store" for obtaining new maps and features is flaky at best. I don't know if I have done it wrong, but traffic information is non-existent, speed cameras didn't seem to load properly and because of this I am reluctant to spend any more cash on it due to the risk that it might not work!
3. Sygic Aura
A relative newcomer, I quite like the menus and the road display. Has all the sort of support I would expect, with speed cameras and the like available if required. Postcode Lookup and an interesting POI system exist too.
However, the biggest issue I have with this is the fruity routes it tries to take me down. Again I don't know if I've done it wrong, but on a trip from Birmingham to Poole, it completely avoided the motorways and I could not find a way to get it to use them. Bit of a let down as this could have been a good one.
4. Navigon
I don't give this enough credit, and I think it's probably because of the UI. In reality this is a very capable SatNav solution. It has good points of interest, good favourites, contact search, built-in google search. It also has a very nice routing engine and offers you up to 3 choices for your route, along with a recommendation. The safety camera support, however, is pretty poor (and doesn't support popular 3rd party databases like a lot of others do). The UI, like I say, is the biggest issue though. A questionable black and orange scheme with randomly low resolution icons. The main navigation display is very bare and seems to only be able to display one piece of information at once, so to switch between speed and arrival time, you need to touch the screen, which is not good at all.
5. CoPilot
This is my other joint favourite. CoPilot has a pretty comprehensive UI, support for POI, favourites, postcode lookup and also web search (not sure what engine it uses though). It also does support external safety camera databases (though importing them is a bit of a headache - due to a bug in CoPilot it seems). The routing is average, and does tend to sometimes send me along a strange route. The navigation display is quite good, and is the closest to what I would like from a SatNav on Android, but still not perfect. In fact, it's a little too advanced. There seems to be a bit of clutter and the menus appear as overlays rather than whole screens which means things are a bit more fiddly to press. Again, you can really only display 2 pieces of information at once, which is better than most but still a bit annoying.
I have had it lock up on me a few times as well, which is horrible in busy city centres when you are taking lots of turns.
One other thing worth mentioning is that the keyboard entry is buggy, and does not support holding down on letters to get numbers (detects it as 2 presses of that letter instead) with the Sense keyboard.
Any comments, tips, amendments, ideas or suggestions are welcome!

news from htc
Hi, I've had the same issue, trying to find a sat nav app... if it weren't for the fact that it gobbled data I would use google nav!
I've been using HTC locations which is nice apart from the fact that it won't let me use a postcode, becoming rather frustrated I fired off a grumpy email to HTC only to get a friendly reply advising me that postcode lookup is a feature that will be added in a future update.
Once we get this update I'll pay the full fee as it integrates so well with the phone when receiving calls etc.
Hope that helps

Thank your for your guide!
I am currently testing CoPilot Live 8.2, Navigon 3.5.3 and Sygic 2.0 (don't have the latest version unfortunately). Here are my initial views:
CoPilot Live 8
My impression of CoPilot is not that good. The user interface is way too advanced and complicated. Navigating through the menus takes a long time to learn (compared to the others at least), and is not very intuitive. There are several ways to reach the same settings, and it makes the configuration very complex. It has very annoying voice guidance in Norwegian. The voice starts almost every sentence with "Just ahead". Navigation interface is ok, but the information bar icons in landscape mode are too small. The deal breaker for me however is that, out of the three, it does the worst job in guiding you. I was unable to configure CoPilot to choose the optimal route from home to work. No matter which settings I tried I was always directed through downtown instead of using the ringways (No motorways allowed?). It also seems that the maps are a little imprecise. When driving home I arrived at my destination 500 meteres before I was home. (Navigon in this test was spot on, giving me notice as I'm driving into the garage.) On the plus side it has the best POI functionality of all apps I have tested!
Navigon
Navigon may lack some features, but it works, and even though the interface is simple, it is my preferred solution as of today. I like that it gives me a choice of which route to take before starting. Navigation seems reliable and instructions are given in good time so you don't miss your exit. Navigon is well integrated with contacts, so choosing a contact and navigation to him/her is easy. POI functionality is OK, but integration in navigation mode is not the best. It does however have good search functionality, which includes Google Search, and it gets positive remarks for reality scanner. Navigation interface is a little boring and there is no full screen view (status bars on top and bottom make the navigation window smaller than Sygic's full screen) Voice directions language is not configurable, it just uses system language, which is bad for me since I'm using English. It’s just to annoying to hear an english voice guide me thorugh Norwegian street names.
Sygic Aura
Sygic Aura has, by far, the best graphical interface in navigation mode. Menus are simple but functional, unfortunately it also has some issues with selecting the optimal route, but it does a better job than CoPilot. I don't like that I have to choose default route calculation in settings (Fastest, shortest or most economical), not for each trip, as it sometimes gives questionable route suggestions, and navigation through the city proved to be unreliable as it tried to guide me the wrong direction in a one-way street! Very good lane assistant, and information bar shows everything you need. Tunnel simulation is also very good. Voice guidance is the best of the three. Nice POI features, but slightly inferior to CoPilot. All in all it would have been my preferred solution, if it didn’t fail in route selection. (My hopes are that Sygic will solve navigation issues and add the possibility to choose optimum route before starting your journey) Please note that I used version 2.0 in this test. Latest version is 2.1.2.
Google Navigation is not available in Norway, besides, I don't have an unlimited data plan, so I am dependant on an offline navigation solution.
I have not tested extensively, so I cannot comment on how well these solution recalculates routes, integrates with phone features if you receive a call or performs over time. However, the short tests are done as similar as possible between the three, with the same routes, time of day, and with the same planned detours.
Conclusion
For now I will stick to Navigon, but I will not uninstall Sygic, as updates may fix the problems I experienced. The best from both would have been a perfect solution!
P.S. NDrive 10 was also briefly tested, first impressions was not good: User- and navigation interface was bad, even worse than Navigon in my opinion. Route calculation was similar to CoPilot, so not the best there either. I didn't like it at all, so I uninstalled after a short test drive.
P.P.S Heres is my other thread about SatNav software. No reviews here, but a nice poll
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874988

Hello,
Why did nobody talk about iGo myWay?
For me the most important is map quality. I mean, lack of secondary roads or small streets.
I have tested Locations, iGo, Sygic and copilot. In Switzerland and France, copilot has very bad maps, a lot of streets missing. Locations has also incomplete maps. Sygic has good maps and iGo the most complete.
Second quality is the ease of reading :
Sygic Aura is the best (a little like TomTom on windows) . Important informations on one glance.
igo has a very big keyboard. it can be useful.
Betelgeuse74, I have Sigic Aura 2.1 and a lot of bugs has been corrected. You can program a very complicated itinerary. the problem is how to save it if you want to use it later : you have to use a file manager and save a file called "itinerar.dat" which is destroyed each time you create a new itinerary (I spoke about it in the other thread : here
it is very useful for me as biker. I never take highways. I organize complicated itineraries including beautiful sceneries.
I'm sure it must be possible to do the same with iGo, as I have not yet investigated the subject.

Thanks for your input.
iGo is unfortunately not available in Android Market in Norway, so I have not been able to test.

I'd like to try it too, but I can't see it in Market either...

I have tried Sygic Aura which I think has too low resolution in menus. The bad integration with contacts is pretty bad as well. Navigate to picture seamed nice, but didn’t work.
Navigon is what I’m using right now. Good contact integration is the best feature.
But I don’t like the low resolution, blurred maps and that I cant pinch-to-zoom.
(3.5.2 seems ti fix a few low resolution icons.)
CoPilot looks really nice and has nice UI. The minus here is that I cant change UI colour. RED/BLUE doesn’t feel right. Id like a black or a more "designish" colour. Seems

Used Sygic as a test today on my way to work, and decided to drive the route it suggested.
I have configured it to use the quickest route, but I ended up using double the time compared to the route Navigon recommends.
Sygic gets me where I want to go, and in the end that is what's important. Hopefully future releases will improve route calculation, because this is my only real complaint with Sygic.
Navigon is still my favourite, because in spite of lacking a few features, it is very solid and easy to use, and I agree with contact integration. Also I just love the Google Search integration. Yesterday I searched for a store I was going to, and it lead me right there, with no detours on the way (yeah, I knew where I was going )

So far it's seeming like Aura would be everyone's top choice if it wasn't for it's utterly obscure route-planning!
Hopefully someone from Sygic is paying attention and they can get it sorted!

dazultra2000 said:
So far it's seeming like Aura would be everyone's top choice if it wasn't for it's utterly obscure route-planning
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...and the delay to choose contacts . about 45 sec. for 900 contacts... (it is instant with Google Maps!)

...and some small streets missing (comparting with iGo maps)...

Anyone tried the new Sygic 3.0? Did it improve on route calculation?
Thanks.

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Anyone tried the new Sygic 3.0? Did it improve on route calculation?
Thanks.
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Sygic doesn't work anymore with Gingerbread update on DHD! it's a shame

On my Desire Z (Android 2.2, Froyo) it runs well. Actually, it runs better then ever.
But I haven't been able to use the navigation to Contacts, but that's because I have a lot of contacts, and I'm not patient enough to wait each to until the list is filled with the contacts.
In my point of view, Sygic lacks a few features:
- import/export POI (for instance kml, csv or ov2 file)
- choose the types of road (on a holiday I prefer to avoid all highways, so explore the countryside). Indeed, with the new version it's quite easy to avoid 1 highway, but in some cases it will guide you to another highway.
- faster contact browsing
- maybe add a feature to allow "touristic" driving, so only secundary roads (no highways) are selected.
- maybe propose several calculated routes to choose from (like google maps on the PC does).
Patrick

cubitusclaudius said:
Sygic doesn't work anymore with Gingerbread update on DHD! it's a shame
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The trial for 3.0 runs on my DHD with all the details in my Sig...
Route planning is better, but still not right. Still does some funny things for no raisin
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App

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The trial for 3.0 runs on my DHD with all the details in my Sig...
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A little information to avoid confusion:
RCMix uses a different framework since it is based on a Kingdom ROM Port.
ROMs build on the official release for Desire HD, like Android Revolution and LeeDrOiD (to name the ones that I have tested) does not work.
According to Sygic this is a known issue, and they are working on a new update that will fix this issue.
(Information can be found on Sygic's website.)

tried PAPAGO X5? not bad for android phones.

Just my opinion... I have a lot of experience in Navi on win CE (PNA) and thought of dumping my good old moov for Desire HD but it seems Android is missing good navigation software....
Copilot can't "get through" only on the 1st impression. I just installed it, played 5 minutes and it went to trash. Oh my god, whoever designed such ugly and impractical interface. It is even worse than Garmin and TomTom. It can have best maps and routing in the world, but no sane person would stand that awful interface.
iGo which has best maps (because you can combine your own, depending on what you need) is really awful on Android. It is even more simple than iGo Amigo on WinCE. And it is really slow. Not to mention that the interface sux, it doesn't follow Android conventions, and is not in the "spirit" of Android. You can tell it was PORTED from other platform. I keep it just because I know maps are good and routing is excellent, but really dislike using it.
NDrive is same story. While the interface was OK on WinCE, it sux on droid. Not to mention that it doesn't know how to scale properly to DHD's resolution so the texts and button texts are so small that no one can read it unless you put the phone 10cm in front of your face.
Navigon I didn't try. It is pain to install, but this might be my last option.
Finaly, the only one which looks like something is Sygic. Really good interface, blazingly fast, really cool... only in my case not worth much since maps for balkans are main roads only, but if you don't need these countries, it might work for you.
Waiting for iGo Primo on Android....

Sorry but out of all the sat navs, co pilot is easily the best, all you have to do is set up your routing profiles and your set, their customer service is the only thing which is lacking, although they do answer you they always ask you to reply in the same email and they just don't call you, can be annoying.
Google maps is 2nd and anything else beyond that is simply a headache.
Paid 25 quid for co pilot and all the updates they've made have been spot on, if you can't use this app then you certainly shouldn't be driving because you must be a dunce, easy and intuitive, just set up the route profiles and your golden.

Locus online/offline map viewer
You may want to also look at [APP] Locus online/offline map viewer:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907430
Early review written by TheRomMistress and published on XDA-Developers.com.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/locus-map-viewer-for-online-and-offline-use/
Locus is worth keeping an eye on as there is lots of development including offline vector maps.
Also note “Download map area” added to Labs in Google Maps for Android.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/07/download-map-area-added-to-labs-in.html?m=1
Question: by chance does anyone know if by any miracle will my expensive Tom Tom Windows Mobile maps work with Sygic Navigation on Android (HTC HD2 running Desire ROM) ?
Cheers
Tom

Related

What's the best GPS software for the Tilt?

...and why do you like it?
richardfaust said:
...and why do you like it?
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On my Italian Kaiser I'm usin Igo2008 right now cause my TomTom lots of time doesn't syncronize street at real time (and few time I was wrong way LOL)...
In my sig ...
AdriaRoute is by far the best solution for Slovenia. It is quite precise when we come to streets and house numbers, customised POIs are nice add-on too. There are some drawbacks, but nothing serious.
Was using TomTom too, but its coverage is poor for our area, although there are some small areas with better coverage and details than AdriaRoute
I also like the response time finding an alternative way, way better than Garmin XT. New version solved this problem a bit, but still.
Both programs can read and speak Slovenian.
Depends on the country
I think this depends very much on where your using the device, i belive in the states theres some software called route 66 which is pretty good.. although ive never tried it.
In the uk i would recomend tomtom, this does have maps for most of europe as well, but like someone else stated the maps can be poor in some areas.
and if you don't want to srearch much and you want something free google maps mobile is you answer!!!
For voice routing/etc I use TomTom Navigator 6. It's great for where I am. I'm located in the US and I've used it in several states. Prompts, re-routing, directions, etc are all pretty accurate. I've used a few others but could never get used to it.
I also use Google Maps for quick location search, which works well on the device.
I use google maps, cause it seems like its the only one that
1. Is Free
2. Has maps for new zealand
Which one's are free?
I use both TomTom and Google.
For long trips I use TomTom, but local I use Google. I do like google better just because its easy to use and find food, and gas and stores around where ever I am, and also will import the info into my contacts as well if I need.
Am I right in assuming that Google Maps only does turn-by-turn which you must manually progress through your route?
I tried it out and this is what it seems to do...which is a nice program, but not exactly GPS software.
Am I missing how to use a feature of it or am I right in assuming it is basically like using the google maps webpage to get directions?
Oh I think I did know you can use the GPS to locate yourself to plan the initial route...but it doesn't track as you go, does it?
i'am in chile, and i use gps proxy with garminque and works perfect...
Yes Google and Microsoft Live both will route and track you on a moving map, but they don't have "heading up" and don't talk. But they are good free apps to keep on the phone for locating POI's etc.
In the US I prefer iGuidance v4 hands down because of talking street names, something few PDA versions have at the moment.
iGuidance ****
I have had good luck with iGuidance! link in my sig....

GPS & Walking in my shoes

Hi gang,
I've made the switch from a HTC S730 to a Tytn II, and i'm enjoying the phone more & more, but there are still some gaps i need to fill.
One of the things i'd like to do is use the GPS together with a note-taking (or dictating) application to make small notes of things i encounter on my walks, has anyone ever heard of such an application?
Another thing i've yet to find is a nice site with themes for this phone, i'd love a theme that has a (much) smaller HTC Home plugin, the watch alone takes up way too much space, any pointers?
the only thing the comes close to your first request is GPS2Clipboard
GPS Tuner is a very good offroad GPS app, you can save a waypoint in 2 clicks and write a description when saving. The description should be passed on when you export to Google Earth and such, but I've never tried. You might want to download the trial and see if it suits you.
Try NoniGPSplot? Thats a nicely featured tracking application which plots your travels on a self-imported map, which in turn you can export to eg, Google Earth -gives a great effect of zooming into your track. Freeware but I liked it so much I made a donation.
Anyways, re voice notes: yes, NoniGPSplot can record record voice memos attached to a GPS location. I havent used that feature yet though.
Thx for the tips, i'll try them out

Searching for applications

Hello. I have been searching the internet, without any luck though of finding the programs i want.
First, i want a program, like ShopSavvy is for the Android, where i can use it on my touch pro to scan barcodes of products and find the best price.
Second, i am wondering if there is a way to have Google Street View on the touch pro. I have already seen KDKobes Google Maps Street View 2.3.1, from our forum. I was wondering though if there is an "official" or "fully working" program, as in KDJobes program unfortunately, location-data support and GPS integration aren’t working with this version of Google Maps.
Third, i want a program, like I-phone has, for Drinks (bartender?), same cool skins and graphics environment maybe?
Fourth, again like I-phone has a program where you record a song on the phone and then it goes through the internet and finds you possible matches.
Please, bare with me, as i a m new and maybe i didn't have enough luck or "easiness" finding these type of programs i want. Yes maybe i saw some "looking like them but weren't afterwards the programs i wanted, cause their functionality wasn't after all what i was searching for and was mislead by their Title Name.
So if you please know any "freeware/ or have to buy" programs that are exaclty as the one's i have described please feel free to post and tell me.
Thank you very much in advance,
Chris
let's see
1. barcode readers:
i-nigma barcode reader
QuickMark 3.3
Aura - but donno if this still works.....
2. Street view is officially supported by the latest Google Maps
http://www.google.com/mobile/default/maps.html
3. didn't heard of such a program for wm
4. i know a program it's called Music ID
hope that helps try to search harder next time
search diamond beer for a drink app that turns your phone into a glass of alcohol , if you mean a bartender then just do more searching also the site Fuzemobility.com is now your best friend go there all the time look at everything there . if you still haven changed ROMS on your phone i suggest you go get NRG's new winmo6.5 build 3.0 ROM . it has alot of improvements over the stock ROM , anymore questions just ask me
Is there an app that uses the GPS to track how much you've cycled and your speed etc? I think such apps exist for the iPhone but I'm looking for something for windows mobile.
gotta love fuzemobility lol
slick69 said:
Is there an app that uses the GPS to track how much you've cycled and your speed etc? I think such apps exist for the iPhone but I'm looking for something for windows mobile.
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theres an app called track my run floating somewhere between here and fuzemobility.com
Just giving you a heads up don't go looking for everything that the Iphone has for your phone. Most of the time it will not be there. on to you questions
Shop savvy is a great program. Our closest thing is "Barcoroma"
Google street view. I use google maps from NRG'z Rom and I can get street view on it.
Drinks IDK your on you own for this one
Song recognition. Well try out Music ID works great for me.
Repository
Where does everyone go to get there the PPC software?
I go to http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php, although its not complete list and new releaase of an application can take a couple of days to make it to thier site. I find the site easy to navigate and search. The catagories and rating system help for filtering.
about the drink mix
i suggest watching this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496880&highlight=drinks
perhaps something will be done.

CoPiolot vs. Telenav ... bleh, we need TomTom.

I've got both of these running. Did a road trip, switching between the two. I thought TeleNav was superior, but it was still inferior to the dated OEM nav in my CX9 as well as the Pioneer F500BT. And neither of these come close to Garmin or TomTom.
Telenav:
Better guidance, better UI but streaming maps are weak. Map update is slow and can really lag position at highway speeds on edge. Superior ease of use compared to CP8. Entering destinations and other common functions are pretty responsive.
Monthly fee blows. If maps were local and the fee was only for live services (and optional) it'd be pretty good.
Getting "press 0 for more info" on a traffic alert on my Mt3G was pretty damn weak. It was in a dash cradle, even if I HAD a slide out keyboard I would have been unable to view it.​
CoPilot:
Old maps, but LOCAL copies. Map update speed is good and more graphically pleasing to the eye than TeleNav. Horrible guidance. You cannot trust the voice. It has very limited voice. Here is the sum total of the voice guidance:
In (distance) (turn|keep) (left|right)
Just ahead (turn|keep) (left|right)
Turn (left|right)
Sometimes is lists "unnamed road" when it is a major, named road.
Sometimes it says turn (left|right) when such a turn is impossible.
No spoken road names.
"Live" part of CP8 is weather. Android has more weather apps than you can count, so this is not a useful feature. "Friends" features are pointless. Traffic is grayed out.
The UI is horribly laggy if UI button click sounds are enabled. Having a class 6 flash card can speed things up. Turn off the click sound and upgrade your flash card for better UI response and faster load time.
CP8 seems to use its own on-screen keyboard, as it does not follow system settings. It is frustrating to use. You end up repeatedly tapping the same button to get it to register. If you have your phone in a dash cradle, good luck interacting with the keyboard, even when safely stopped. You will pull it out and jab at it in frustration.
Entering a destination is very frustrating. You are expected to enter an address in a very specific manner. If you are used to other solutions where you can just blast the street address in there, get ready to be annoyed. You must follow the destination wizard exactly, using the aforementioned clunky keyboard.
The rest of the UI is a mess. A clutter of big ass square buttons you'll never use.​
I like using TeleNav more, but I am not fond of the fee. The remote map storage is retarded on a device like this. Local copy and upfront one time payment should be an option.
I'll be keeping CP8 because it kinda works and I paid for it. Will not continue with TeleNav after the trial.
Will pray for TomTom or some other solution for a real nav provider.
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Will pray for TomTom or some other solution for a real nav provider.
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I use both copilot and tomtom. Or should I say I *used* to use tomtom. There's not much difference between them at all. I find that the tomtom maps are incredibly inaccurate with many MANY missing roads and/or road names.
Also, your analysis of the voices is inaccurate and misleading. There are MANY more voice commands it is capable of. http://www.alk.com/copilot/create_voice.asp?cp_newsletter=navigator0906
-- you should also update to the latest version as it has many performance improvements (including voice responsiveness) as compared to the earlier versions.
apparently the CEO of tomtom the other day said that android will not be ignored.... so maybe 6months i reckon there will be android version of tomtom....
http://androidandme.com/2009/08/news/tomtom-android-app-coming-before-blackberry/
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I use both copilot and tomtom. Or should I say I *used* to use tomtom. There's not much difference between them at all. I find that the tomtom maps are incredibly inaccurate with many MANY missing roads and/or road names.
Also, your analysis of the voices is inaccurate and misleading. There are MANY more voice commands it is capable of. http://www.alk.com/copilot/create_voice.asp?cp_newsletter=navigator0906
-- you should also update to the latest version as it has many performance improvements (including voice responsiveness) as compared to the earlier versions.
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I'm running the latest version. However, I have yet to hear any guidance other than the few I posted, but I did forget the "bear" right or left. I posted what I have heard other than "you have reached your destination."
My point is this: lacking actual street names is pretty weak. When you're in a big furball of traffic and in a complicated interchange "next exit" or "ahead" is not precise enough.
As to perf: yes, it is OK as long as button sounds are OFF and you have a fast flash card. I still contend the onscreen keyboard is horribly unresponsive compared to the normal one used by other apps.
Guidance is timely with CP8. I know they fixed that particular bug a while ago.
If they had street names as part of the guidance and a cleaner UI with a more responsive keyboard I think it'd be OK.
Sygic GPS for Android will be released soon. I used this all the time when I had my Nokia N82. it was fast and accurate
http://www.sygic.com/index.php/android.html
Using Copilot and Ndrive - both have different things i like/dislike. I also can't wait until TomTom get their act together and release one for us.
Ndrive - very light very quick, lacking content
Copilot - Loads of content (probably too much), Heavy and slow, strange route selection!
n1ck75 said:
Using Copilot and Ndrive - both have different things i like/dislike. I also can't wait until TomTom get their act together and release one for us.
Ndrive - very light very quick, lacking content
Copilot - Loads of content (probably too much), Heavy and slow, strange route selection!
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I am trying to figure out how to get ndrive on my mytouch. Can anyone help me out with directions and software links?
Thanks
Personally, I love Igo8/9... apparently, it's more concertrated on WM & IPhone
I've got copilot on my magic and its fine for occasional use, but I've got an Igo8 stand alone which is excellent. Its nice to have something on the phone for emergencies though...
ndrive
an email received yesterday from ndrive
Hello;
We are working on the last tests to release the Ndrive on Android and Mac. During the next week we will release the Ndrive versions to these two sistems. Check on www.ndriveweb.com
Cumprimentos / Best Regards
NDrive Support
CP8 seems to use its own on-screen keyboard, as it does not follow system settings. It is frustrating to use. You end up repeatedly tapping the same button to get it to register. If you have your phone in a dash cradle, good luck interacting with the keyboard, even when safely stopped. You will pull it out and jab at it in frustration.
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It's a little touchy. Tap at it lightly. It looks like it interprets drags much too easily.
i have copilot on my magic and there is no lag for me and i love the ui..the maps are great it has all the grocery stores resteraunts department stores i need...i have it on a class 6 sdcard with 96 swap partition 40 mb swappiness and setcpu
Copilot is working great for me as well, new roads in Poland (comparing to iGo 8 and amigo in WM) appear and are listed as well as in other programs!!
In my opinion this maps are converted from source to source (is possible and saves a lot of time )
N drive maps are great.....i am using them on my HTC magic.... 2 days before i installed them and its working like charm.......!!
copilot... what a pain in the @&&! after a day, finally working but maps/nav in my town pretty poor as position accuracy way off and roads missing. am in southern california. both my motorcycle's garmin and kiaser's tomtom for winmo make this app childish and a toy. useless!
I like Ndrive
dunai said:
I like Ndrive
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am having difficulty finding ndrive???
For all those who want NDrive:
http://gsmfreeboard.com/showthread.php?t=185343
If you got any difficulties with the german language, send me an e-mail and i'll translate for you
[email protected]
NDriver is a lot smarter than CoPilot. With auto zoom make thing easier on difficult turns. When to turn announcement is based on speed and distant, not like the stupid CoPilot which based on fixed distant or fixed "latest announcement" time.
Being use NDriver for 3 weeks now, will never go back to CoPilot.
nDrive also here: www.android-leak.com

I Need Ideas - Raphael Programming

Hello all,
I recently started a course here at Purdue University on Mobile Software development (Windows Mobile).
I need some ideas for programs I should write. Please reply to this thread or PM me if you'd like.
I have experience with C#, VB, C++, and C, among other languages.
Thanks
Jason Flittner
how about a dedicated xda forum app?
How about a sports ticker. I'm still surprised there isn't one yet.
BTW, I think I saw a xda app when I was poking around the other night.
I'm trying to think of ideas but my minds drawing a blank...
Here's the XDApp
Gonna expose my nerdiness here, but you asked...
How about an app that accesses the D&D Insider online compendium of rules and data? Not sure what would be involved, but I'm betting that there's no API available, so it'll probably never happen.
OTOH, it would be nice to see a really high quality dice-rolling app that takes full advantage of the g-sensor and the hardware accelerated graphics...something that looks like dice inside a tumbler, you know? Maybe start with a really slick Yahtzee-style game, and build up to polyhedral dice for us game-geeks?
I'd be happy to provide you with some guidelines for building. I'm sure we could find you a suitably good graphics guy, too, if you're not up to that part (I could do that, in a pinch).
I want my phone to do this:
But until then, I would like to see an ap like Skype, but for mobile that will easily switch you from cellular network to VOIP.
I have two ideas:
#1 - I don't know if this is even possible, but an application that turns on WIFI and/or Bluetooth in a receive only mode briefly every few seconds and listens for user selected devices in range and then performs user selected actions.
The idea is that the it would use less power than leaving WIFI and/or Bluetooth on all the time, but when I get in range of my wifi router at home, it turn WIFI fully on and sync my phone. Or when I'm in range of the WiFi at work, it could turn my ringer to vibrate. Or when I get into the car, it detect my Bluetooth stero, connects to it, and opens the music player.
#2 - Probably simpler than #1, a program that turns WiFi and/or Bluetooth on automatically when the phone is plugged into a charger and then performs specific user defined actions, similar to idea #1.
I don't know if programs like this already exist, but I haven't found them.
Dylan
I like these ideas, please keep them coming. I am not sure what the requirements will be as far as our programming projects are concerned but from what I understand I have alot of freedom in project choices!
I am in another robotics programming class working with the iRobot Creates and I was thinking it would be really sweet to program something that could allow the 2 to interact in some way/shape/form!
I am also very excited about GPS technology I wouldn't mind programming something that would utilize the GPS or triangulation!
Thanks for the contributions all, please keep them coming!
~JFlitt
With all that programing skill you could create some pretty neat apps.
Ive always liked the windows desktop interface.
How about a windows xp-like launcher?
Complete with movable desktop icons, windows, etc.
I am aware that wisbar advance desktop allows you to do this, but alot of those skins are a hassle, and they are not very complete. Plus they dont exactly take advantage of any 3d graphic drivers..
But anyways back to the point, with a windows xp desktop like interface it would be easier to use the phone.
I would not have to stretch my thumb all the way to the top left of the phone.
Oh and you could possibly utilize the touch pros capacitive touch panel for controlling the mouse.
You could also get google android working with more functionality. I am aware that there is work being done on it, but someone with so much programing knowledge could really speed up the project.(Im android crazy)
Or, if all that is too much to complete in limited time, then how about an application that will allow multi touch using the touch panel?
And also, resistive touch screens are supposedly multi touch capable.
I hope i gave you enough ideas.
Good luck.
madfatter said:
how about a dedicated xda forum app?
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ye s a facebook like app
But would love to see a app recreate the zoombar
on my tp
VOIP
Hi,
I have an idea and it is possible.
how about having an app on your phone to configure your SIP provider settings in it ( 5 different proxy ) and then when you want to dial a number, you can right click on it and chose " voip dial ".
Skype already gives you a the menu for skype calls when u right click on your contact .
if you can add a menu to TF3D settings->communication->VOIP and we can add 5 different proxy in it and we can activate more than one proxy at the same time in order to RECEIVE AND DIAL voip calls from our phone it would be awesome since microsoft is not allowing this kind of apps on marketplace .
Tnx
Thunder
a good "made for raphael" nes or snes emulator would be great since all the other ones out there are out dated and seem to work grat on old phones but are horribly laggy on the touch pro...wierd... the only good one ive found is a jap build of nester (nesterj4u) built for an hp phone or pda im not sure but the keyboard slides out to the right so landscape mode is upside down when i want to use the keyboard >_<
a good streaming media app thats a bit easyer to use than the one that comes with the phone would be great with some tv links on it like surfthechannel or tvdome would be great.
a youporn app to copliment the youtube app would be awsome
hmmm a good compass that simply points north (true or magnetic) with degrees would be awsome for when i drop mine on the roof trying to point my sat.
a simple freeware level would also be awsome since ive only found trialware levels so far
an hourglass would be a fun pointless app for when i get bored of pouring digital beer.
a goofy clip art picture editor could be fun just to mess with. maybe with some fish eye lens and carnival mirror opptions would be fun.
a free streaming radio app would be cool too....
sorry for the long list cant sleep ... figured the more ideas the better
ps. im not sure if any of these already exist havent checked lately so if anyone know if they do feal free to point me in the right direction it would be greatly appreciated
ok, I'm gonna try to have this make sense, but no guarantees. how about a simple titanium plugin framework? something that **doesn't** use mortscript? as mscript is good for certain things, it's not for others. this way there is an easier way for developers to make new plugins for it without having to use a slow scripting language. does that make any sense?
How about a talking GPS
I was out on my mountain bike today. I have a Garmin unit on the handle bars for navigation and listening to music from my Touch Pro in my pocket.
I was riding a fast downhill section through the some trees when I realized I was taking my eyes off the trail to make sure I was still on course.
I've used this http://www.basicgps.co.uk/ for Geocaching but it can only take you to one waypoint at a time. You can't use it to follow a route.
How about making an application which can steer you along a route using voice commands.
(Tomtom and others can only do this on roads, not off-road)
mixture of gps and accelerometer
well can u create an app the tells u ur speed while u are travelling like there is one app which does it in i phone it uses motion sensing and gps there are apis for both you can code it in c# with .net fw 3.5 and if u require help i am available i too know c# .
sound control
What about an app. that would control all of the sound feature such as the ear speaker,speaker phone speaker,and possibily microphone independitly,like bass,trebl,vol. That way a person could tailor the phone to sound the way they want it to sound when they are talking on it or whatever.
Just a thought.
Programing Ideas
A project that I have been toying with is a "Now" button for the calendar. Those of us in consulting need a simple and quick way to insert the current time in the Start Time and End Time field, which ever is selected. I've not been successful so far.
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HARDWARE: AT&T HTC FUZE (Raphael)
Hard-SPL: AT&T
ROM: AT&T
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How about that app the iPhone has where you can transfer contacts by putting the phones next to each other and shaking it to transfer or sliding it across to the other phone.
All for now will think of more
*edit* Forget this its kind of pointless when we can send contacts via sms/IR beam
How about the ability to use our Fuze's as remote controls like you could with PDA's, open your garage door, turn on your 360 or TV, forgot to turn your laptop off, send it a signal to shut down from anywhere
There're some cool applications on Android. One application changes the ringtone based on GPS location. It sets ringtone to loud at home, lower the volume in office and automatically sets the phone to vibration when you are in a theater.
Another application is about setting alarm based on location. You can set an alarm about buying some stuff in a store, next time when you pass by the store, alarm goes off.

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