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Just saw the news that the Tab 2 is 10.1". I had been waiting to buy a tablet for the Tab 2 with hopes of the upgraded hardware and still a 7" screen. I don't want a 10" screen for a tab.
I guess i'm just looking to see if the hardware on the Tab 1 is good enough for most things.
Guess I'm just disappointed in a 10".
Will you be using it as a phone? If yes, I would ask to re-think it twice about 10" for a phone lol
I actually am thinking about letting mine go and get a Dell Streak phone (the 5"). While I love the tab but I kinda miss being able to toss it in my pocket and don't have to use bluetooth.
Or you can just wait until Honeycomb will be released, at that time you will have an upgrade in your GT 7" from Samsung or from XDA.
At the moment the Hardware is capable enough to make everything you want, record video at 720, watch HD movies or play HD Games...
Personally, I would not move to a 10" Tab, as a 7" fits my needs.
I'm not moving. I don't have 1.
I was waiting to buy a tab till the 2, but it's 10". I've played with my friends Ipad, besides being locked down, I don't like how big it is. I really like the 7" size.
I don't think in NA I can use it as a phone. PLus I don't think I want a CDMA tab even tho My cell is Verizon.
I'm using it mainly as GPS, Game, email, hopefully Skype, etc. All over wifi. I travel for my job and would like to have this, and wherever I go I have wifi, and refuse to pay ~30-40/month for a data plan or w/e.
So was just looking to see if people felt I should get the 7". I mean I know it's my decisions, I guess I just want to know based on what I want to use it for, does it do it well.
I do plan on rooting it and stuff, I heard some of the ROM's actually remove a ton of the lag, and I doubt samsung will release HoneyComb so was hoping a xda developer would for the Tab, and the Tab would be powerful enough to run it.
The 10" was a big downer. I dont see any real use for a tab just in the home and a 10" is to big to have with you all the time plus its heavy for the hands/wrists to use longer times.
Now when im running Rotos JMI ontop a 1,4GHz ext4 kernel i cant realy ask for much more. The tab works great and are quick in the perfect format.
Would be fun if hc get ported to the sgt. But i will never buy a 10" when they are almost completly useless in my eyes.
EDIT: And i use my sgt as phone so i have it on me all the time. It fits in my front pockets on my pants without problems, but im a big dude so i have big pockets
robertsydbrink said:
The 10" was a big downer. I dont see any real use for a tab just in the home and a 10" is to big to have with you all the time plus its heavy for the hands/wrists to use longer times.
Now when im running Rotos JMI ontop a 1,4GHz ext4 kernel i cant realy ask for much more. The tab works great and are quick in the perfect format.
Would be fun if hc get ported to the sgt. But i will never buy a 10" when they are almost completly useless in my eyes.
EDIT: And i use my sgt as phone so i have it on me all the time. It fits in my front pockets on my pants without problems, but im a big dude so i have big pockets
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I got big pockets too, the 7" fits.
I thought the tab 1 was 1GHZ not 1.4?. But you like it alot?
I don't think I can get calling in USA.
I'm glad the Tab 10.1 turned out to be a larger device. Now i can stop trying to figure out how to afford to upgrade, and stay with the Tab1 with its 7" of goodness.
dardack said:
I got big pockets too, the 7" fits.
I thought the tab 1 was 1GHZ not 1.4?. But you like it alot?
I don't think I can get calling in USA.
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He's flashed it with a custom kernel to run at 1.4.
If you buy the AT&T version, you can indeed get voice calling in the US, after you flash it with Euro firmware and insert a SIM from a voice plan device. You can also get it with the T-Mobile version, but there's a few issues with that. Good news is that both versions can use international firmware no problem, even if you don't want/use voice calling.
I'd stay the hell away from the Sprint and Verizon devices for a couple of reasons. The first is that they have less internal memory (2Gb vs 16Gb), and the other is that neither unit can use international firmware, leaving you almost entirely at the mercy of the carriers for upgrades.
Croak said:
He's flashed it with a custom kernel to run at 1.4.
If you buy the AT&T version, you can indeed get voice calling in the US, after you flash it with Euro firmware and insert a SIM from a voice plan device. You can also get it with the T-Mobile version, but there's a few issues with that. Good news is that both versions can use international firmware no problem, even if you don't want/use voice calling.
I'd stay the hell away from the Sprint and Verizon devices for a couple of reasons. The first is that they have less internal memory (2Gb vs 16Gb), and the other is that neither unit can use international firmware, leaving you almost entirely at the mercy of the carriers for upgrades.
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This is the kind of information I was looking for. TY for taking time.
What about the Best Buy / Amazon version? Yea I was staying away from Verizon/CDMA. I have verizon for my phone cause of work, and not a huge fan.
However, I won't need calling on the Tab.
Does it function OK OC"d at 1.4? It doesn't get too hot? Stability issues?
Yea I don't want to be at mercy. I want to put honeycomb on it if I do get it. I probably will now that 2 is 10, so I'll get 1. Just gonna wait and see if price comes down to like 400 or somethign hopefully.
I am 7" fan, too. Would love to see a SGT with the specs of the new 10.1" SGT 2 (or xoom), but with 7" screen. I am not big man, but "rounded in middle" (spare tire). I can fit my SGT in back pocket, nicely. It has fully replaced my Nexus 1.
For the 7" fans, the question maybe to stick with SGT 1 or maybe look at Acer a100 (http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=13010) -- appears to be 7" but with Tegra 2 (and a bump in a few other areas). The 7" form factor may have been validated with rumors about a 7" ipad (but those rumor seem unsubstantiated) -- so that might make more manufacturers take notice.
What would be really intersting, IMHO, 6", or 6.5" with SGT (or better) specs. I am not sure a 5" with 1024x600 would work..
LG has an 8.9" odd ball too.....
I think there is some more to come from MWC...maybe sammy has a refresh for the 7" sgt too?
Don't forget Dell has a 7" tablet too and it has dual core CPU (unlike our SGT 7"). The only downer is screen size is 800x480.
I don't think you could buy a SGT (no contract) lesser than $450 unless used. Streak 7" is $450 no contract.
I was in the same boat - bought my GT two weeks ago on T-Mobile, hoping that if there is an announcement about GT2, I can take a look at it before my return window closes. And at 10" no thank you. I actually had an iPad for few months (my wife wanted it more than me...) but just sold it, because it kept sitting unused, as it was too big for a book reader or to take it with me everywhere, but too small for good browsing (have a 14.1" laptop with 1680x1050 res for that).
I looked at the Dell Streak 7, but that screen just plain sucks. It looks like Dell was trying to build something nice, then just decided last minute that 7" won't work, so they found the cheapest LCD they could lay their hands on. Not to mention the battery life...
While it would be nice to have a GT with dual-core, 1Gb RAM and all that, I think the current hardware is more than capable, and will run Honeycomb just fine. My next tablet would have to be a lot more powerful, and have higher res screen.
i will stay with my 7'' tab
the best thing about the tab is it's size and the cell phone. i dont want to go back walking around with two devices in my pocket, i used to have an iphone & a big ass ipad so i know what is like to walk with two devices not cool lol.who ever makes the next 7'' tab with all the good stuff and a cell phone included i'm buying that.
quattr0 said:
Will you be using it as a phone? If yes, I would ask to re-think it twice about 10" for a phone lol
I actually am thinking about letting mine go and get a Dell Streak phone (the 5"). While I love the tab but I kinda miss being able to toss it in my pocket and don't have to use bluetooth.
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AFAIK the tab 10.1 can't be used as a phone
quattr0 said:
I actually am thinking about letting mine go and get a Dell Streak phone (the 5"). While I love the tab but I kinda miss being able to toss it in my pocket and don't have to use bluetooth.
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Well i came to the tab from a dell streak and i'll tell ya the tab does everything way better than the streak, except fit in your pocket...... i wont be going back to the streak.
Yea I've read about the Dell 7", not getting that for sure. Screen rez alone plus battery life, no TY.
So there is another 7" Tab coming?
EDIT: That Ace 7" seems nice, plus a WIFI only version. No word on release in USA tho, only Europe.
FYI: HTC annouced the 'flyer' at MWC. This is a 7" too. 1.5ghz, 1024x600, cameras, android 2.4 (?) or honeycomb, etc. GSM voice support unknown.
fwelland said:
FYI: HTC annouced the 'flyer' at MWC. This is a 7" too. 1.5ghz, 1024x600, cameras, android 2.4 (?) or honeycomb, etc. GSM voice support unknown.
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I think i may return my GT and wait for this. I will only be buying one Tab, so I gotta make the right choice.
Here is a decent comparison matrix of the newly announced Android tablets
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/02/1...-lg-g-slate-vs-samsung-tab-10-1-vs-htc-flyer/
no mention of phone/voice on any of these; this is a deal breaker for some of us.
It's a deal breaker for me as i was a "one gadget man"
my main reason i go with samsung was because it can be used as a phone
if it isn't i'd go with htc already
if flyer can be used as a phone too, i might be jumping ship to htc ^^
Did a search, didn't find a whole lot on this topic so figured i'd ask since I'm trying to decide between the two.
I currently have a Captivate and can say i love the dev community it has. Running CM7 and its awesome.
That being said, Apple's hardware has always been great but iOS is lame. I previously had a jailbroken iPhone and it was ok at best. iPad is a bit different though, if i was to get one i'd jailbreak it as soon as i can....but more interestingly its looking like OpeniBoot has support for the original iPad so it might have iPad 2 support in the furture. I'm not sure how smooth android would be on it but it would allow me to run both android/iOS on great hardware.
A big factor for me is price, from what i'm reading the new Galaxy Tab 10.1 will probably be around $800 like the Xoom and thats too much for me. Both wifi verisons of iPad 2/Galaxy Tab around $500 which is the price point i'm looking for.
So which would you recommend?
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Wifi Galaxy Tab will be more like $400 max..
Would you not consider a used/new 3G Galaxy Tab.
The 7" design is great for portability and adding 3G completes the Tab imo..
If its for household use only I would say IPad..
Bear in mind I only own a Tab though not an IPad lol.
Well This is what I think:
iPad 2:
Much more secure
Closed Source
Nicer Screen
NOT PORTABLE DUE TO BIGGER SIZE.
Galaxy Tab 7
Not very secure ( Thank you you SOB's....your day will come ) but still more secure than Windows.
It is PORTABLE ( Can fit into pocket )
You can customize it/Flash it
All in all the Galaxy Tab is a winner IMHO. 7 inches is the PERFECT size ( pls no "****" jokes ) for being more portable and customisation.
Digiguest said:
Well This is what I think:
iPad 2:
Much more secure
Closed Source
Nicer Screen
NOT PORTABLE DUE TO BIGGER SIZE.
Galaxy Tab 7
Not very secure ( Thank you you SOB's....your day will come ) but still more secure than Windows.
It is PORTABLE ( Can fit into pocket )
You can customize it/Flash it
All in all the Galaxy Tab is a winner IMHO. 7 inches is the PERFECT size ( pls no "****" jokes ) for being more portable and customisation.
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Not very secure?
http://www.groovypost.com/howto/news/pwn2own-google-unhacked/
RE:
Just got the Tab on Thursday. Bought it outright.
Got the Bell Mobility model so I could put my internet keys' SIM into it.
Two things impressed me:
1.) Using Z4Root I rooted my Tab in seconds and it was simple. (Article on the forums here with the apk)
2.) The fact that I could unlock the device for free with Roto's process (also on the forums), was pretty sweet.
I put the Overcome 1.2.2 ROM on my Tab, an extra 16gb mem card, and have installed a crap ton of apps to test its limits.
Thus far, the device has not slowed down.
It's usable in all lighting conditions, and the battery life is quite impressive.
I get that everyone pushes Apple products because they're the greatest thing since a toaster(and mildly more useful. ), but with the Tab you get freedom, functionality, and portability.
I call that a win-win.
I feel that Galaxy tab is much more impressive, I am impressed by the openness of Android and how you can manipulate it with only a little effort.
Plus, iOS is a shame, with a huge portion of its apps being paid ones, go for the Tab if it gets only a bit more expensive but 800 is way pricier to be sold.
roy8846 said:
Wifi Galaxy Tab will be more like $400 max..
Would you not consider a used/new 3G Galaxy Tab.
The 7" design is great for portability and adding 3G completes the Tab imo..
If its for household use only I would say IPad..
Bear in mind I only own a Tab though not an IPad lol.
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Where can you get one for $400?
Digiguest said:
Well This is what I think:
iPad 2:
Much more secure
Closed Source
Nicer Screen
NOT PORTABLE DUE TO BIGGER SIZE.
Galaxy Tab 7
Not very secure ( Thank you you SOB's....your day will come ) but still more secure than Windows.
It is PORTABLE ( Can fit into pocket )
You can customize it/Flash it
All in all the Galaxy Tab is a winner IMHO. 7 inches is the PERFECT size ( pls no "****" jokes ) for being more portable and customisation.
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What do you mean by not very secure?
PhelanPKell said:
Just got the Tab on Thursday. Bought it outright.
Got the Bell Mobility model so I could put my internet keys' SIM into it.
Two things impressed me:
1.) Using Z4Root I rooted my Tab in seconds and it was simple. (Article on the forums here with the apk)
2.) The fact that I could unlock the device for free with Roto's process (also on the forums), was pretty sweet.
I put the Overcome 1.2.2 ROM on my Tab, an extra 16gb mem card, and have
installed a crap ton of apps to test its limits.
Thus far, the device has not slowed down.
It's usable in all lighting conditions, and the battery life is quite impressive.
I get that everyone pushes Apple products because they're the greatest thing since a toaster(and mildly more useful. ), but with the Tab you get freedom, functionality, and portability.
I call that a win-win.
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MAGPC said:
I feel that Galaxy tab is much more impressive, I am impressed by the openness of Android and how you can manipulate it with only a little effort.
Plus, iOS is a shame, with a huge portion of its apps being paid ones, go for the Tab if it gets only a bit more expensive but 800 is way pricier to be sold.
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I agree with both of you about Android. I suppose one of the main reasons I was even going to consider the iPad is the possibility of putting Android on it in the future
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Where can you get one for $400?
I agree with both of you about Android. I suppose one of the main reasons I was even going to consider the iPad is the possibility of putting Android on it in the future
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Wait, what? Why spend all that money on an ipad if you are just going to jailbreak it and put android OS on it anyway?
vamp6x6x6x said:
Wait, what? Why spend all that money on an ipad if you are just going to jailbreak it and put android OS on it anyway?
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Better quality hardware, bigger screen, and the prices are basically the same. Also openiboot dual boots iOS and android
Galaxy tab 10.1 is the same size screen as the ipad. And where is the documentation saying the ipad has better specs...
On most threads in all the blogs I've read, Galaxy tab beat the ipad hands down... Most threads say the ipad and tabs specs are pretty close with the main difference being screen size (also ipad has bigger battery with a bit better life, 10 hours versus 8). Nowhere did it say the ipad has better hardware...
Personally Apple hype up everything, had the ipod/iphone reps to expand their market with. They aren't any better than anything else out there, in fact I get the dirts with how limiting IOS really is.
If you want something that seems to be developed with the speed of continental drift go with the Ipad, if you want something thats open and can be altered, changed and played with then the Android Galaxy Tab is the go...
When Galaxy Tab 10.1 is released then Apple are REALLY gonna have a battle on their hands, there's a reason Android is liked and IOS isn't.
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Galaxy tab 10.1 is the same size screen as the ipad. And where is the documentation saying the ipad has better specs...
On most threads in all the blogs I've read, Galaxy tab beat the ipad hands down... Most threads say the ipad and tabs specs are pretty close with the main difference being screen size (also ipad has bigger battery with a bit better life, 10 hours versus 8). Nowhere did it say the ipad has better hardware...
Personally Apple hype up everything, had the ipod/iphone reps to expand their market with. They aren't any better than anything else out there, in fact I get the dirts with how limiting IOS really is.
If you want something that seems to be developed with the speed of continental drift go with the Ipad, if you want something thats open and can be altered, changed and played with then the Android Galaxy Tab is the go...
When Galaxy Tab 10.1 is released then Apple are REALLY gonna have a battle on their hands, there's a reason Android is liked and IOS isn't.
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i haven't been comparing the Tab 10.1 with the iPad, I'm referring to the 7" that has been out for a while. And by hardware I'm talking about the materials its made from, i.e. look/feel/build quality...i already know what the specs are
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i haven't been comparing the Tab 10.1 with the iPad, I'm referring to the 7" that has been out for a while. And by hardware I'm talking about the materials its made from, i.e. look/feel/build quality...i already know what the specs are
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I also assumed you were comparing the iPad 2 to the Galaxy Tab 10.1 - I think that's a fairer comparison, for the original 7" Tab it's better to compare to the original iPad.
Between the Tab 10.1 and iPad 2 - I'm not sure, still deciding. But between the 7" Tab and the iPad - I went for the iPad, mostly for the bigger screen. If you go the way of the original iPad I'm sure you can pick up a mint condition one for a good price off eBay.
i think it all comes down to what kind of user you are. If you're the type that buys a Mac or any other decent pre build desktop computer and don't want to think about (read:don't understand) what goes on inside it, get the iPad/iPad2. If you're into building the desktop computer from scratch get the galaxy tab/android .
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I also assumed you were comparing the iPad 2 to the Galaxy Tab 10.1 - I think that's a fairer comparison, for the original 7" Tab it's better to compare to the original iPad.
Between the Tab 10.1 and iPad 2 - I'm not sure, still deciding. But between the 7" Tab and the iPad - I went for the iPad, mostly for the bigger screen. If you go the way of the original iPad I'm sure you can pick up a mint condition one for a good price off eBay.
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Well my main thing is price. I've been reading that the 10.1 Tab could be around $800, i dont' wanna spend that much. I've seen the 7" Tab for around $500, and the iPad 2 is $500 for the wifi version.
Hmm idk, i think it'd be wise to wait for the 10.1 Tab's official price. If its around $500 then i'll get that, if not then i'll just try n find a cheap used 7" Tab or iPad
I appreciate everybody's input
pawces said:
i think it all comes down to what kind of user you are. If you're the type that buys a Mac or any other decent pre build desktop computer and don't want to think about (read:don't understand) what goes on inside it, get the iPad/iPad2. If you're into building the desktop computer from scratch get the galaxy tab/android .
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Not so!
I used to put my own PCs together, but simply can't be bothered any more, so now I own Dells and Macs. However, I choose Android for my phones and tablets mostly because I dislike the control Apple exerts over its mobile platform.
Regards,
Dave
I have the galaxy tab, but the ipad 2 is better.
- dual core
- nicer screen
- netflix
- more RAM (i think)
- apple's market
- smoother and more refined
for me basically it lies on the OS itself
yeah sure, iPad looks / screen is better, but in term of hardware u can't possibly say that iPad 2 hardware is superior coz AFAIK, the chip is manufactured by samsung, and the storage drive is toshiba's
the fast that you saw based solely on the simplicity of the OS itself
you're doomed, not being able to do / mod anything like you wanted to, but in the bright side, you get stability and speed
same iPad hardware but running android wouldnt feel the same way i think, only my opinion though
how hard the process needs to be to provide square beside square beside square and that it opens up when you touch?
my suggestion is go for what you need, and make your own +/-, coz in the end you'll be the one using it ^^
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but in term of hardware u can't possibly say that iPad 2 hardware is superior coz AFAIK, the chip is manufactured by samsung, and the storage drive is toshiba's
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That's a strawman argument. Samsung don't even make the Tegra 2 chips that will power the Tab 10.1. They have a processor, the Exynos (which I suspect is very similar to the A5), but they are using the Tegra 2 because (a) it's the Honeycomb reference platform, and (b) chances are that they don't have sufficient production capacity to satisfy both A5 and Exynos demand.
Just because Apple don't make every single component in their devices (they don't even "manufacture" their own devices anyway), doesn't mean that they don't produce superior hardware (in most cases).
A product's hardware is almost always more than the sum of its parts - it's also how well it is designed and put together. The only time when this is generally not the case, is cheap Chinese clones, which are often less than the sum of their parts!
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Dave
I think you wouldn't go wrong with either.
However, given you already have your apps in your android phone, you could stick with android, so you don't have to buy them all over, by getting into IOS.
Do you need microSD slot? Then get galaxy tab. Why not get Xoom?
Do you need a large screen? Then get Ipad.
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I think you wouldn't go wrong with either.
However, given you already have your apps in your android phone, you could stick with android, so you don't have to buy them all over, by getting into IOS.
Do you need microSD slot? Then get galaxy tab. Why not get Xoom?
Do you need a large screen? Then get Ipad.
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Thats the thing. I love android, but to be honest am leaning towards the ipad2 because the Xoom doesn't seem appealing to me and from the looks of it the gTab 10.1 is going to be a xoom with better speaker placement and lack of a sd card slot.
Well...I've had it for a couple months, and Dell has still not delivered on their promise of official Honeycomb.
I just got hired for a job, and should have a few hundred by the end of the month.
The Asus transformer meets all my needs - an official Honeycomb tablet, it can be used as a notebook (it has a docking keyboard and can be flashed to dual-boot linux) and there are already plans for a Transformer 2, which depending on price, I may wait for (running a Tegra 3 quad-core.)
So, I'm highly considering switching to Asus.
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Well...I've had it for a couple months, and Dell has still not delivered on their promise of official Honeycomb.
I just got hired for a job, and should have a few hundred by the end of the month.
The Asus transformer meets all my needs - an official Honeycomb tablet, it can be used as a notebook (it has a docking keyboard and can be flashed to dual-boot linux) and there are already plans for a Transformer 2, which depending on price, I may wait for (running a Tegra 3 quad-core.)
So, I'm highly considering switching to Asus.
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Ditto... Dell is suckin it up when it comes to support.
Do it. I hate this thing. Steve has done so much and it's still only bearable. I used it for like the first month I had it and went back to using my much smaller phone. Mainly due to the terrible display. Unfortunately there is no rom that can improve a display. I can't even sell it. People use it and there like oh no thanks. I may have to pay someone to take it away lol. But for realz tho. I would sell it if I were you. Just hope you have an easier time of it than I am.
Edited because I'm tired and shiz didn't make sense.
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I have both the transformer and the streak . I like them both. To each there own.
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You people crack me up and I'm not saying this to be mean, but why would you buy a device on hopes that it may or may not be upgraded. Think about it, staples ad's and website say OTA Honeycomb Upgradable, and Dell's website just says something like OTA Upgradable. To me that doesn't say it will be it says it can be. If and when this gets upgraded it would be 3.2, but you can't just snap your fingers and say here it is. That's not to say that Dell is working on an upgrade because I don't know. I'm not sure what angles you are using this at, but the angles I use it at to view e-mails, read a book are fine for me. I mean I wouldn't have paid $300 for the WiFi only (which is what I have) nor would I have locked myself into a contract with it, but I gladly bought it with the $100 off coupon and I did have to return my first one because the capacitive buttons weren't working. You can't buy technology on hopes and promises, you have to research and decide if the device as is will fulfill your needs. If not don't buy it. This for me is doing everything I need it to as is. I want Honeycomb as much as the next person, but what this device has been out what at total of 6 months or something and honeycomb has been available for less than that. I've had my droid 2 for a year and Verizon still has yet to roll out Gingerbread for it (I did however get tired of waiting and flashed CM7 on it).
If you are leaving and you say you cant sell it easy, ill buy it from you if you make me a good enough deal. I love my ds7. Ill get one for my wife
Let me know!
Thanks
dpoindexter said:
You people crack me up and I'm not saying this to be mean, but why would you buy a device on hopes that it may or may not be upgraded. Think about it, staples ad's and website say OTA Honeycomb Upgradable, and Dell's website just says something like OTA Upgradable. To me that doesn't say it will be it says it can be. If and when this gets upgraded it would be 3.2, but you can't just snap your fingers and say here it is. That's not to say that Dell is working on an upgrade because I don't know. I'm not sure what angles you are using this at, but the angles I use it at to view e-mails, read a book are fine for me. I mean I wouldn't have paid $300 for the WiFi only (which is what I have) nor would I have locked myself into a contract with it, but I gladly bought it with the $100 off coupon and I did have to return my first one because the capacitive buttons weren't working. You can't buy technology on hopes and promises, you have to research and decide if the device as is will fulfill your needs. If not don't buy it. This for me is doing everything I need it to as is. I want Honeycomb as much as the next person, but what this device has been out what at total of 6 months or something and honeycomb has been available for less than that. I've had my droid 2 for a year and Verizon still has yet to roll out Gingerbread for it (I did however get tired of waiting and flashed CM7 on it).
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Go to Dell automated support and search Honeycomb. It says there WILL be Honeycomb. They didn't say that it's upgradeable, they said there would be an upgrade. In fact, I think if there is not a Honeycomb upgrade, it may be enough that someone can take a class-action against them. And you make a good point that the tablet has been out longer than the OS, but that can cut both ways. This means Dell had the hardware plenty long to create a Honeycomb build for it...if they were going to, I don't see why it wouldn't have been done by now.
pyraxiate said:
If you are leaving and you say you cant sell it easy, ill buy it from you if you make me a good enough deal. I love my ds7. Ill get one for my wife
Let me know!
Thanks
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I am considering keeping it as a backup or to carry around, even if I get the transformer (7 inch is easier for me.) But if I do decide to sell it, I'll tell you
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I am considering keeping it as a backup or to carry around, even if I get the transformer (7 inch is easier for me.) But if I do decide to sell it, I'll tell you
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I bought mine with the staples deal because it was a 7 inch tablet with nice speakers and a tegra 2 processor and the two cameras. It is a good deal for 200.00. If HC gets on here that is a bonus for me.
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I bought mine with the staples deal because it was a 7 inch tablet with nice speakers and a tegra 2 processor and the two cameras. It is a good deal for 200.00. If HC gets on here that is a bonus for me.
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I picked mine up for 200 brand new in box unopened and a new unopened otterbox commuter case. I love craigslist lol. So far overall im pleased with it. Screen resolution with rdp is acceptable. I use mine tethered to my 50 / Month cricket kyocera zio phone. Their internet speed is so much better than at&t 3g service. With a 7 inch screen I wouldn't want a higher resolution. A higher resolution means everything would be tiny in rdp (I need to use it while driving like a touchscreen mobile workstation) and so far with a bluetooth keyboard it does nicely. The viewing angle isn't the best but acceptable. Im not even pressed for hc because it does EVERYTHING it should without a hitch ( rdp, netflix, movies, game console emulators, 3-4 hrs battery w/ heavy usage, ect). You get the storage graphics and processor of the large tablets ....but also something even better. IT FITS IN YOUR BACK POCKET!!!!!!!!! (Im a smaller guy w/ a 30 inch waist and it fits easily in any pair of Levi or old navy rear pants pocket I have
Just my opinion though.
bluesy_92, you're talking about this link: www5 dot nohold dot net/Dell/Loginr.aspx?pid=7&Streak=Streak%205&login=1&userrole=USen which is not even on the dell website, and holds no merit in my opinion. I would look at this: www dot dell dot com/us/p/mobile-streak-7/pd click on tech specs and it clearly states "Android™ 2.2 (Froyo) with Over the Air Upgrade Capability". Class action suit? So if my laptop is not compatible with the next version of Windows or Linux, I should go after the manufacturer of the laptop, or I can't run OSX (not that I would want to) on my laptop should I go after Apple or HP? The fact is, that Honeycomb 3 and 3.1 had well documented problems with the 7" screen size so since 3.2 which is said to fix this has only been available for what a few weeks, if that? So while I agree we need Honeycomb, I'm patient enough for Dell and Google to get it right. Google hasn't even released the source yet because it's just not done. Would you rather have a device that is at least IMO stable on 2.2.2 or a device that may or may not be stable on Honeycomb as it stands? Why are there no Honeycomb 7" tablets on the market currently? I mean even searching for the Chinese brands there are none. When we get it, if we get it, it will be awesome, but as it stands I'm happy having a device that actually works for me, this is not my first tablet, in fact it's my 4th.
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bluesy_92, you're talking about this link: www5 dot nohold dot net/Dell/Loginr.aspx?pid=7&Streak=Streak%205&login=1&userrole=USen which is not even on the dell website, and holds no merit in my opinion. I would look at this: www dot dell dot com/us/p/mobile-streak-7/pd click on tech specs and it clearly states "Android™ 2.2 (Froyo) with Over the Air Upgrade Capability". Class action suit? So if my laptop is not compatible with the next version of Windows or Linux, I should go after the manufacturer of the laptop, or I can't run OSX (not that I would want to) on my laptop should I go after Apple or HP? The fact is, that Honeycomb 3 and 3.1 had well documented problems with the 7" screen size so since 3.2 which is said to fix this has only been available for what a few weeks, if that? So while I agree we need Honeycomb, I'm patient enough for Dell and Google to get it right. Google hasn't even released the source yet because it's just not done. Would you rather have a device that is at least IMO stable on 2.2.2 or a device that may or may not be stable on Honeycomb as it stands? Why are there no Honeycomb 7" tablets on the market currently? I mean even searching for the Chinese brands there are none. When we get it, if we get it, it will be awesome, but as it stands I'm happy having a device that actually works for me, this is not my first tablet, in fact it's my 4th.
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A computer being compatible with the next version of Windows is a different matter - unless it is specifically stated that it will be compatible.
As it stands now, it says 2.2 on the Dell website, because that is the current OS. The fact that is says that there WILL, not MIGHT, be an upgrade, means they need to deliver. And as far as I'm concerned, there are already 7 inch tablets planned for release on Honeycomb 3.2, and we've had the hardware MUCH longer than they have, Dell had time. At the very least, if Honeycomb isn't coming out anytime soon, they can at least acknowledge it, rather than pretending it doesn't exist, and say straight-up that there is going to be a wait.
Oh, and if you haven't been here last week, Dell Mobility was telling people that Honeycomb was already being pushed to devices, despite the fact the update was never pushed. Also, this was around the time of the Staples deal. Any company that lies to their user-base to get sales, does not deserve them.
Yes, 2.2 is very stable, but Dells customer support - not so much.
I understand what you're saying but believe you are missing my point. Yes there are 7" versions planned to be released, like the Acer Iconia A100, which was supposed to come out earlier this year, but has yet to come out due to the issues with Honeycomb and screen size, not that there may not have been hardware issues or something but what I read was mainly honeycomb. Even the much hyped Vizio tablet is shipping with Android 2.3, because as they state "Honeycomb is just not stable, once we feel it's stable we will consider an upgrade". Now don't misunderstand me, yes the tablet we have is Honeycomb compatible, I have yet to find anything on the Dell website that states it WILL get it, though I have read that it was announced at CES that it WILL get it. I believe it will get it. And yes I did read the posts on here regarding Dell telling people it was being pushed when it wasn't. The biggest problem with companies is over promising and under delivering, personally I am not a Dell person (and actually hate the company) and had a hard time actually purchasing a Dell product. But purchased this device based on the hardware and my needs, that and the $100 off, but did not read forums before making my purchase so as not to be swayed. My business partner has the 7" Galaxy tab, and made her ask Verizon before getting locked in if it would ever see Honeycomb, they flat out told her no. Now the staples website does state "Android™ 2.2-based tablet with over-the-air upgrade capability to Android™ 3.0 (Honeycomb). Upgrade date TBA." But I still say, make your purchases based on if the device fills your need as is, not what the device could be. I have had my share of crappy support from Dell in the past with business computers, so much as to tell them to go f$$# themselves I'm voiding the warranty and fixing it myself.
I flip flop like a politician on this tablet. Some days I hate it some days I love it.
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best $199 tablet in the market
This is best tablet for $199...even with honeystreak thanks djsteve...7 inch tablet perfect size,I use this more than my ipad 2....
Yeah dell will probably not update the streak 7 since 10 inch dell streak pro coming out in Sept..if they do it will be updated with froyo 2.2.3 not honeycomb but who knows for sure...if you go website it doesnt look promising...we will see hopefully we do get update honeycomb-----
Maybe they're holding out in order to release IceCreamSandwich. Why release HC when everyone will be screaming for ice cream? You scream, I scream...we all scream for ice cream.
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I bought mine with the staples deal because it was a 7 inch tablet with nice speakers and a tegra 2 processor and the two cameras. It is a good deal for 200.00. If HC gets on here that is a bonus for me.
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Ditto here. I really like my Archos 70S tablet which pretty much has the same general specs, screen resolution, limited viewing angle, Android 2.2.x, etc. Since its from Archos it plays tons of media even formats the Streak can't. Much lighter than the Streak with better battery life too.
Yet with all that, I think the $200 I paid for my Streak at the Staples sale is a bargain. This is an official Google approved device so no need for a hack just to get market. Has a built-in GPS and enough system memory and storage to run a ton of apps at the same time and have a plethora of downloaded programs to run. The Archos 256 M of memory and 300 M of app storage is quite limiting, but then it was designed with a price point way cheaper than the Streak. So no Gorilla glass either. No dock although it does have a USB port on the device which is handy and a mini HDMI port that I much prefer on a dock like the Streak.
Add to that the Tegra2 chipset on the streak, the capacity to vibrate (I assume that's part of being a Google approved device), a compass (ditto) and there's nothing like it on the market.
Getting HC is just gravy as far as I'm concerned.
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I picked mine up for 200 brand new in box unopened and a new unopened otterbox commuter case. I love craigslist lol. So far overall im pleased with it. Screen resolution with rdp is acceptable. I use mine tethered to my 50 / Month cricket kyocera zio phone. Their internet speed is so much better than at&t 3g service. With a 7 inch screen I wouldn't want a higher resolution. A higher resolution means everything would be tiny in rdp (I need to use it while driving like a touchscreen mobile workstation) and so far with a bluetooth keyboard it does nicely. The viewing angle isn't the best but acceptable. Im not even pressed for hc because it does EVERYTHING it should without a hitch ( rdp, netflix, movies, game console emulators, 3-4 hrs battery w/ heavy usage, ect). You get the storage graphics and processor of the large tablets ....but also something even better. IT FITS IN YOUR BACK POCKET!!!!!!!!! (Im a smaller guy w/ a 30 inch waist and it fits easily in any pair of Levi or old navy rear pants pocket I have
Just my opinion though.
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I agree, its really the only tablet that you CAN fit in your pocket, and as far as the viewing goes its not like your displaying it for a whole room to view it at once, by a big screen tv at that...
I've walked through a few pages in this NC world and don't see anyone mentions about this little tablet so I post.
Name: ASUS Eee Pad MeMO
Price: expect to be $250
Screen: 7" 1280x800 IPS capacitive touchscreen
Processor: quad-core NVIDIA Tegra 3
RAM: 1GB
OS: ICS
Camera: 5MP back, 2MP front
GPS: ?
Hmmmm, it looks very good.
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I've walked through a few pages in this NC world and don't see anyone mentions about this little tablet so I post.
Name: ASUS Eee Pad MeMO
Price: expect to be $250
Screen: 7" 1280x800 IPS capacitive touchscreen
Processor: quad-core NVIDIA Tegra 3
RAM: 1GB
OS: ICS
Camera: 5MP back, 2MP front
GPS: ?
Hmmmm, it looks very good.
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$250 for a quadcore tablet? hell, yeah!
Tapatalkin' it from my rooted NookColor running CM7 MiRaGe [KANG] [7.2 RC] overclocked @ 1.2 GHz
Sounds like it'll be a great deal when it's actually available in the wild. For now, my NC is meetings my needs well enough that I'm debating between getting a Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 Plus, or waiting for the Asus MeMO or something like it.
I definitely have the 7" tablet bug, but only had my NC for a few months. Not quite ready to upgrade. However, when the time comes, this sure has my attention.
Again, it's just a demo and I don't believe we will know for sure its hw. spec. until very close date to release, which ........ who knows? probably this summer? or Xmas?
I've read here and there, some say it's ready to ship, some others say it'll be in Q2.
Don't know yet but sure, it looks very optimistic.
Thanks for directing my attention to this beast. Already has $250 cash ready to throw at Asus when it is released.
Just got two Nooks for Xmas (one for wife). But I'm already bored with it. Lack of video acceleration in CM9 and lack of built-in GPS is a downer.
jdpdata said:
Thanks for directing my attention to this beast. Already has $250 cash ready to throw at Asus when it is released.
Just got two Nooks for Xmas (one for wife). But I'm already bored with it. Lack of video acceleration in CM9 and lack of built-in GPS is a downer.
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Yes, if it's GPS capable then, heck yes, I shall give it some love, however, it reported having A-GPS, which mostly requires data network to work with, can't do offline GPS alone. But again, let's just hope.
Just wish that Asus is clever enough and put NO locks on its bootloader as Nook Color did. This is the better and faster alternative for Nook Color Tablet. Kindle Fire and NT are for eReader only, and are not designed for tablet from the beginning.
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Just wish that Asus is clever enough and put NO locks on its bootloader as Nook Color did. This is the better and faster alternative for Nook Color Tablet. Kindle Fire and NT are for eReader only, and are not designed for tablet from the beginning.
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If rooting is atleast possible, I wouldn't mind at all. What's the point of a bootloader unlock when you already have an unskinned ICS running on it?
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Yes, if it's GPS capable then, heck yes, I shall give it some love, however, it reported having A-GPS, which mostly requires data network to work with, can't do offline GPS alone. But again, let's just hope.
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Lots of A-GPS devices still have full standalone GPS capability, though you're right that some don't. For example, my Incredible gets great GPS accuracy in airplane mode even if the initial time to lock is longer.
That said, I can imagine there must be a lot of little concessions to meet a pricepoint like that so I wouldn't be too surprised if it doesn't have full GPS capability. Wifi might be stripped down like so many budget tablets too, i.e. 2.4GHz only, possibly even limited to 54mbps.
Looking forward to seeing this new asus tablet, I did see this post ealier though stating that it wouldn't be as awesome as it looks, because some rumors say that Google has chosen Asus to manufacture their new nexus tablet. If this happens, Asus will have to compromise on both internal storage as well as replace the processor. It will however be a whole chunk cheaper.
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If you were holding off on rooting your NT because you were going to sell and buy the Memo 370T, you can forget about it.
I'm not happy about this at all. I was really looking forward to a great mid-range 7" tablet: $250, Tegra 3 quad core processor, full Android ICS, camera, etc.
The latest rumors are that Google has chosen Asus to manufacture its new Nexus tablet to compete with the Kindle Fire. To be able to do this, they'll probably have to cut the internal storage and use a different processor.
Reports are that it will cost $150, which is insanely cheap, and even though I do like Asus products, I'll probably be sticking with my NT. My mother's going to be upset, she was looking forward to getting my NT when I bought the 370T.
Rant over.
Here's the source: http://androidcommunity.com/insider...ancelled-rebranded-the-nexus-tablet-20120316/
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But then again, these are just rumors :b I'm really looking forward to this and I think I'm still gonna get one of my own
I've completely forgotten about this thread, my thread
Anyway, as I said earlier in different thread, this device is too good to be true.
For that much of money $250 packed with those high-end spec, it's not gonna happen, not until the year of 2013 or even 2014.
And again, 370T has been killed, we're not gonna see it.
They will slash $50 with dual-core processor, half of the promise internal storage, lower screen resolution and different chipset. When will it be available? No clue.
Again, just a rumor.
I'd love a reasonably priced, full features tablet that didn't have to be constantly hacked to get the latest Android on it. A Google NExus tablet sounds good.
Well word from digitimes(which has a good track record with asus rumors) is reporting that not only will asus release the nexus tablet but the memo 370t is still being made and will be released in may-June.
frenize said:
Well word from digitimes(which has a good track record with asus rumors) is reporting that not only will asus release the nexus tablet but the memo 370t is still being made and will be released in may-June.
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Link, pls?
votinh said:
I've walked through a few pages in this NC world and don't see anyone mentions about this little tablet so I post.
Name: ASUS Eee Pad MeMO
Price: expect to be $250
Screen: 7" 1280x800 IPS capacitive touchscreen
Processor: quad-core NVIDIA Tegra 3
RAM: 1GB
OS: ICS
Camera: 5MP back, 2MP front
GPS: ?
Hmmmm, it looks very good.
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Thanks for the inform, but at the same time, I'm always wondering why this type of post is done in the NC forums portion of XDA. Seems to me that the general forums for Android would be the best place for these posts. Helps encourage us to check in there from time to time.
But when I come to the NC forum portion, I really want my information to be relevant to that device.
SeaFractor said:
Thanks for the inform, but at the same time, I'm always wondering why this type of post is done in the NC forums portion of XDA. Seems to me that the general forums for Android would be the best place for these posts. Helps encourage us to check in there from time to time.
But when I come to the NC forum portion, I really want my information to be relevant to that device.
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Then don't read, don't reply, don't waste your time, m8.
I also wait for news on this Asus tablet !!! And believe it is relevant to the nook, since it could be an alternative for many users here.... Hope to get some updates sooon!!!
The unfortunate thing of Nexus devices is that Google will likely specify that it does NOT include a micro SD card slot, which might make it a non-starter for me.
Google...basically gently rose up from the Shadows. Flexed it's muscles. And instantly KO'd every company making ****ty small tablets.
In one move. One fell swoop.
Speak softly and carrying a big stick. Well Played Google.
While I know we are a bit upset over the sd slot, and hdmi. You've got to admit, this makes pretty much any other 200 tablet a piece of garbage now.
Thoughts?
Lawyers everywhere are celebrating the arrival of the Nexus 7.
Google represents deep pockets, and every two-bit company with ripped-off patents will be looking to cash in.
Nah, they just like to set the price and standards on each subsequent generation of android devices. Asus was going to release it regardless, Google just changed the standard of such devices taking out what we would call standard features that most people won't need and lowing the price on said standard while keeping the same performance.
gotta give google some credit... they have the technology and know how to use it
While I was hoping it would have the original features of the memo pad as revealed as ces I'm thrilled by this tablet. I think having its software come directly from Google and carrying the nexus moniker more than makes up for the hardware changes.
This tablet was an excellent move by Google because not only is it great hardware wise, but the 7 inch market is where they can build a foothold on the tablet market.
I'm happy it is priced so competitively but to scoff at other companies giving less for more money bothers me. Google isn't making profit off this tablet. They hope to raise revenue from play store purchases, etc, but other companies that produce these need to make money off what they build. I don't begrudge them for that. In the end it would be nice for other stockish android tablet makers to either commit to keeping devices on the latest OS, or release source for drivers, etc when they discontinue support for them so that unofficial builds could continue.
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Nah, they just like to set the price and standards on each subsequent generation of android devices. Asus was going to release it regardless, Google just changed the standard of such devices taking out what we would call standard features that most people won't need and lowing the price on said standard while keeping the same performance.
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Let's just hope other oems will follow this standard of pure android and follow the supposed 5 nexus devices this fall. I love my phone but I love pure Google also
Locklear308 said:
Google...basically gently rose up from the Shadows. Flexed it's muscles. And instantly KO'd every company making ****ty small tablets.
In one move. One fell swoop.
Speak softly and carrying a big stick. Well Played Google.
While I know we are a bit upset over the sd slot, and hdmi. You've got to admit, this makes pretty much any other 200 tablet a piece of garbage now.
Thoughts?
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They bought the rights to sell the ASUS ME370T rebranded as the nexus 7 with features removed.
They didn't KO ASUS.
That being said, I'm praying to Moore that their 10" nexus 10 is a rebranded infinity pad from ASUS.
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That being said, I'm praying to Moore that their 10" nexus 10 is a rebranded infinity pad from ASUS.
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no way at the rumored $300 price point. plus infinity is already released. no way you will get true HD 1080P nexus tablet with most powerful tegra3 variant(highest clocked, higher voltage, higher clocked gpu, bandwidth on controller increased) for that cheap. we can dream though..lol.
I see a nexus 10 model being closer to transformer 300 minus some features to lower price point. nexus 7 already uses exact same tegra3 chipset as in transformer 300, which is the T30L variant. So Asus/Google could build a Nexus based on that design. minus some features. corners have to be cut to make the cheaper price point.
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Asus was going to release it regardless, Google just changed the standard of such devices taking out what we would call standard features that most people won't need and lowing the price on said standard while keeping the same performance.
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Yeah, google's only real contribution here was the hype (not insignifigant). And it's price for meddling was removal of features (like sd card) Asus was probably willing to include.
To be honest, I'm not sure it was worth it. And we can never really know, short of travelling to that alternate reality where Asus did release that $250 memo.
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Yeah, google's only real contribution here was the hype (not insignifigant). And it's price for meddling was removal of features (like sd card) Asus was probably willing to include.
To be honest, I'm not sure it was worth it. And we can never really know, short of travelling to that alternate reality where Asus did release that $250 memo.
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More realistic for it to have been $350 and have ICS instead of Jelly Bean.
thebobp said:
Yeah, google's only real contribution here was the hype (not insignifigant). And it's price for meddling was removal of features (like sd card) Asus was probably willing to include.
To be honest, I'm not sure it was worth it. And we can never really know, short of travelling to that alternate reality where Asus did release that $250 memo.
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More realistic for it to have been $350 and have ICS instead of Jelly Bean.
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I'm pretty sure his 250 quote came directly from Asus back when they announced they where releasing it.
I think N7 is the best move that Google could make with Android tablets. With N7, Google can
1. increase the market share, which is lagging iPad.
2. preempt the 7" iPad mini
3. kill cheap android tablets
4. set a standard to avoid fragmentation
5. diminish perception of android tablet = kindle fire
6. stepping stone for play store's long term success
anything I missed?
It might also bring down the price of some of the higher end tablets (are people really willing to pay an extra $xxx just to get feature xxx?)
Please don't think I'm defending lower hardware specs, but the truth is that Nexus devices are great for their SOFTWARE. Other than the Nexus One, these devices have been great, with good hardware but typically not bleeding edge. They contain enough to do what Google sets out to do. I used to be mad about this but now I'm quite happy. There's more to having a great device than the absolute edge of technology. When I got the Nexus S it was the best Gingerbread phone until Google release the next phone... the Galaxy Nexus. I have the GSM Galaxy Nexus now (ordered int'l in Jan) and though it wasn't the end all of hardware when it came out on paper... it is STILL the best ICS device as well. Now on JB, it simply flies. Why is this?
Simply, the way software and hardware are integrated, it's at Apple levels, dare I say. If you look at superior hardware phones like the One X and SGS III, there are hiccups and hangups or other things created by their custom UI's, etc. Plus, the software is written by Google for the Nexus devices to run well.
I'm not saying the galaxy nexus or other nexus device will have the highest benchmarks or play Temple Run the best, but they tend to function as a whole better than their brethren.
The Nexus 7 seems to be the same way. Jellybean is amazing. As Morfic stated, it makes ICS seem like Vista to Jellybean's Windows 7. It may be basically the same kernel, but it does everything it's predecessor does, better and more. Since they hired Mathias Duarte, I believe Android has not just the most functional OS of mobiles, but also the most cohesive and sharpest looking. All of this is my opinion of course, but I remember when GB came out and compared my Nexus S to the iPhone 4 and thought it still LOOKED a little rough. Now, in addition to it doing more, it looks and feels better as well.
My hope is that the Nexus 7 and Google's focus on this device will bring better Tablet UI apps and allows them to take market share from Apple the way they have done the past few years with their phones.
I think they killed all competition in the 7" Android market entirely I'm guessing, and maybe will do the same to the bigger Android tablets if the rumored 10" is released.
Unfortunately, I think this will cause other companies to not build 7" tablets with better specs since most people aren't going to pay much more to have them.. (Like video out, micro sd, haptic feedback, etc.)
The Toshiba Excite 7.7 16gb @ $500? Dead, dead, dead. Only big difference is microsd and AMOLED. And timely updates from Toshiba? Not likely.
Galaxy Tab 7.7? Hard to say. Only the Verizon model is available directly in the US, so maybe it will hang on since it has cell radio, MHL, haptic feedback, microsd, AMOLED, etc. But then again it's over DOUBLE the price. (Disclaimer: I love mine. Verizon, where is my ICS update????)
There are 10" tablets out there for about the same price as the N7, running ICS, with SD cards etc. And they'll sell about 3 of them - because 'joe public' doesn't buy noname chinese hardware that's (in their mind) 'too cheap'.
A google tablet, on the store shelves next to everything else, with google's name on it - they'll buy that. Then you start to shift a few. Then other manufacturers can start to shift a few, too, because suddenly people have friends with an android tablet and they want one too. 'Not an ipad' ceases to be the death blow that it is currently.
acegolfer said:
I think N7 is the best move that Google could make with Android tablets. With N7, Google can
1. increase the market share, which is lagging iPad.
2. preempt the 7" iPad mini
3. kill cheap android tablets
4. set a standard to avoid fragmentation
5. diminish perception of android tablet = kindle fire
6. stepping stone for play store's long term success
anything I missed?
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a slap in apples face for their overpriced ipad and marketing condescending commercials :good:
TonyHoyle said:
There are 10" tablets out there for about the same price as the N7, running ICS, with SD cards etc. And they'll sell about 3 of them - because 'joe public' doesn't buy noname chinese hardware that's (in their mind) 'too cheap'.
A google tablet, on the store shelves next to everything else, with google's name on it - they'll buy that. Then you start to shift a few. Then other manufacturers can start to shift a few, too, because suddenly people have friends with an android tablet and they want one too. 'Not an ipad' ceases to be the death blow that it is currently.
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But these cheap tablets... The usually have no support, and no software updates, etc. That's also a huge reason ppl don't go buy them.
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Jayrod1980 said:
Please don't think I'm defending lower hardware specs, but the truth is that Nexus devices are great for their SOFTWARE. Other than the Nexus One, these devices have been great, with good hardware but typically not bleeding edge. They contain enough to do what Google sets out to do. I used to be mad about this but now I'm quite happy. There's more to having a great device than the absolute edge of technology. When I got the Nexus S it was the best Gingerbread phone until Google release the next phone... the Galaxy Nexus. I have the GSM Galaxy Nexus now (ordered int'l in Jan) and though it wasn't the end all of hardware when it came out on paper... it is STILL the best ICS device as well. Now on JB, it simply flies. Why is this?
Simply, the way software and hardware are integrated, it's at Apple levels, dare I say. If you look at superior hardware phones like the One X and SGS III, there are hiccups and hangups or other things created by their custom UI's, etc. Plus, the software is written by Google for the Nexus devices to run well.
I'm not saying the galaxy nexus or other nexus device will have the highest benchmarks or play Temple Run the best, but they tend to function as a whole better than their brethren.
The Nexus 7 seems to be the same way. Jellybean is amazing. As Morfic stated, it makes ICS seem like Vista to Jellybean's Windows 7. It may be basically the same kernel, but it does everything it's predecessor does, better and more. Since they hired Mathias Duarte, I believe Android has not just the most functional OS of mobiles, but also the most cohesive and sharpest looking. All of this is my opinion of course, but I remember when GB came out and compared my Nexus S to the iPhone 4 and thought it still LOOKED a little rough. Now, in addition to it doing more, it looks and feels better as well.
My hope is that the Nexus 7 and Google's focus on this device will bring better Tablet UI apps and allows them to take market share from Apple the way they have done the past few years with their phones.
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I agree with you on some of the points but One x and SGSIII are not hick ups. One x might had some problems earlier but SGSIII never had any problem and it is the best ICS phone not Galaxy Nexus. I sold my Galaxy Nexus 2 weeks back and this was the first phone which does not make me feel wow about anything at all. It was doing everything at acceptable level but best at nothing. I agree that at $350 price tag it is a nice phone but I bought this phone only because I was short of money. Google did well with Nexus one, Nexus S and they were indeed best phones but Galaxy Nexus was just okay sort of phone even when it was released last year. I think the new Nexus would be much better which hopefully would be released later this year.
On the other hand what you have said about Nexus 7 on the other hand is true. Even though I have iPad 3 64GB with 4G but I understand what google is trying to do with Nexus 7 and I love what they did. I was looking for a good 7 inch tablet and there was nothing good in the market in 7 inch beside toshiba 7.7 but it was too pricey. Who is going to pay more than 500 for a 7.7 inch android tablet? Google on the other hand done very well by introducing Nexus 7 only for 200 and nothing can beat it at this price point or even nothing with 300 more price tag can beat it. It is even better than Asus Pad TF300 which cost way more than Nexus 7. The 7 inch form factor is also great and google made a very good choice.