Is there anything I should know about how a rooted Nook Color acts compared to something that's meant to be a tablet (e.g. the Galaxy Tab) that could influence whether I want one? For example,
This thread has workarounds for a bunch of quirks and problems with the NC. Is it common to need to workaround these and other B&N ROM issues?
I've seem mention of 'porting' apps to the Nook Color. Does this mean I have to do more work to get apps from the market than just hitting 'install'? Do some apps not work on the Nook Color?
It looks like B&N pushes over-the-air software updates to the NC that return it to a stock ROM. Is this easy to prevent? When they push their Q1 update, will it (probably) be easy to apply the update and then get all of my data/settings back, or are updates a pain that I have to put off applying until I have time to reconfigure everything?
Is there anything else I should know?
Well I am not hijacking this forum I just ordered a Nook Color I would cetrainly love to see these questions answered but could I also add a few of my own ?
I am in Europe what kind of usability can I expect from the device, will I be able to register it and what about books.
Also I 've heard there are some touch issues, whats up with that ..? is it true .. any solutions..?
I am following the BT thread and all looks great but what about the USB would we be able at some point to connect ext HDDrives or Webcams ..
Lastly I understand it will only play .mp4 movies anyway around that .......?
I will try to give you a couple answers based on my own experiences, though im no expert when it comes to rooting.
Yes there are some quirks with the NC that you wouldn't have to deal with on a regular android tablet. The biggest one is the lack of hardware buttons. There are several software solutions for this, the most effective and stable of which has been "button savior" which you can get in the market.
Some apps font render correctly because of the screen resolution/dpi of the NC. Some of that can be fixed by using an LCD density changing app or altering the setting manually.
You shouldn't have to port apps to run on the NC, but don't be surprised if some apps don't show up in the market. Most stuff works fine though.
As far as i can tell you wont get BN ota updates unless you're on a BN store wifi network. I've been rooted for weeks and i've never seen the 1.01 update pop up. I figure im waiting for the bigger update before i bother reverting to stock and restoring all my apps.
Ill post more stuff as it comes to mind!
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There are certainly quirks, such as the hardware buttons issue mentioned above. And some apps don't work now, but I imagine other tablets would have similar issues. as android tablets grow in popularity we can expect more compatible apps
spiffytech said:
Is there anything I should know about how a rooted Nook Color acts compared to something that's meant to be a tablet (e.g. the Galaxy Tab) that could influence whether I want one? For example,
This thread has workarounds for a bunch of quirks and problems with the NC. Is it common to need to workaround these and other B&N ROM issues?
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The B&N ROM does not contain some things that were completely not needed for the device as it was designed, so yes there are workarounds in that thread and on the wiki here: http://nookdevs.com/NookColor_Issues
spiffytech said:
I've seem mention of 'porting' apps to the Nook Color. Does this mean I have to do more work to get apps from the market than just hitting 'install'? Do some apps not work on the Nook Color?
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Never heard anything of "porting" apps, only reason would be screen resolution of tablets vs phones. Some apps don't behave nicely on the higher res, either they are in the center of the screen, stretched out and ugly, or simply draw really badly. Most fall into the first two categories.
spiffytech said:
It looks like B&N pushes over-the-air software updates to the NC that return it to a stock ROM. Is this easy to prevent? When they push their Q1 update, will it (probably) be easy to apply the update and then get all of my data/settings back, or are updates a pain that I have to put off applying until I have time to reconfigure everything?
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Yes, your device will query for OTAs and so far nobody has figured out how to safely disable them. Update to 1.0.1 first, then noot it. And when a 1.0.2 or 1.1.0 comes out, expect to do it again. Until someone comes out with a real way to disable the OTAs or a full custom ROM is made.
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Also I 've heard there are some touch issues, whats up with that ..? is it true .. any solutions..?
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It generally happens only when plugged in, and almost always unplugging it and turning off the screen and turning it back on the problem goes away. Some folks say it happens more if the screen is dirty, although in my experience with capacitive screens this is not the case.
pavlos46 said:
I am following the BT thread and all looks great but what about the USB would we be able at some point to connect ext HDDrives or Webcams ..
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Highly unlikely, but there are ways to do USB Host drivers on Android phones, so it's possible in the future.
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Lastly I understand it will only play .mp4 movies anyway around that .......?
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Sure, use something like RockPlayer.
Other things to note...
Games run fairly well on Nook Color. I've been using Dungeon Defenders (framerate not the best), Antigen, Angry Birds, Fuzzies and Nesoid. They all work pretty well except for poor framerates with Dungeon Defenders.
You'll definately need Button Savior. The LCDDensity app is also good to have and tinker with. You'll want to get NookColor Tools on there as well to change keyboards. Root Explorer also.
It runs pretty much any app that I can run on my Droid.
Dolphin-Mini works great on the Nook Color.
There are some issues with buttons at the screen edges, like the Android Marketplace search icon or tab switching in Dolphin. Adjusting LCD Density with the LCDDensity app will cure that problem. Otherwise you will have to figure out how to tap on the edges for it to register. Mine only does this at the top edge and not on the sides or bottom.
Overall, a great device. Clockwork is well on it's way to being finished. And there are now a few folks jumping on the bandwagon to create custom roms.
Rockplayer will play other video types, but wont use hw acceleration and will be choppy. Best to convert to mp4 instead.
In the end i think this tablet is for those who actually enjoy tinkering and tweaking.
Sent from my Nookcolor
Seems like I say this constantly, but in my opinion you do not need Button Savior, Softkeys included in the Auto Nooter script for 1.0.0 or 1.0.1 works great.
markiejones said:
In the end i think this tablet is for those who actually enjoy tinkering and tweaking.
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Exactly. I've enjoyed "fixing" the Nook. But this process could be annoying to many people. Those people would be much happier with an ipad.
khaytsus said:
Seems like I say this constantly, but in my opinion you do not need Button Savior, Softkeys included in the Auto Nooter script for 1.0.0 or 1.0.1 works great.
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I agree. When you set softkeys "just so", it's a near-ideal key replacement. The default setup is what throws people off, with the little arrow-guy getting in the way and some confusion regarding the "n" key.
Mine is invisible except when I single tap the "n" key -a double tap gets me "home". That's perfect, and not at all in the way.
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i am new to nook color...so i did a lot of reading on this forum...i want to root nc 1.1..which is the best method for rooting nc 1.1
from whatever i have read there is two method one is auto nooter 3 and other is the pre rooted decadence rom..which one should i use..i m tilting more towards pre rooted decedence rom using monster pack .7 .
i also wanted to know if we can root 1.1 using monster pack .7 . it mentions that it is 1.1 compatible but it seems no one has tested it. i m noob to this forum and nc ..so i m sorry if i have offended some one with the above newbie questions..
I just went from ROM 1.1 stock to 1.1 rooted with Monster Pack .7. Works like a charm. Thanks IOMonster!
I just used it on a stock 1.1 Nook Color and it worked great, also installed Gapps just fine and logged into my google account fine. Everything is working on my Nook except the B&N 'Shop' from the main B&N home menu. It starts to load then goes black and nothing is there.
fpga_guy is also having the same problem...is the problem related to monster pack 7 or its a general problem???
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fpga_guy is also having the same problem...is the problem related to monster pack 7 or its a general problem???
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I'm not sure, lotta stuff to read on this forum. But I ended up just putting it back to a stock 1.0.1 Nook like it was when I bought it. So it's all back to normal now. It might have something to do with B&N registration, although mine was registered before I rooted and flashed, which is how it's supposed be.
Your registration with B&N may have gotten stale. You can post in the Monster Root Pack thread in devl forum and see what folks are saying.
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I just used it on a stock 1.1 Nook Color and it worked great, also installed Gapps just fine and logged into my google account fine. Everything is working on my Nook except the B&N 'Shop' from the main B&N home menu. It starts to load then goes black and nothing is there.
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I rooted with MRP, and also had the broken shop issue. As an experiment, last night I rerooted with autonooter - directly over the already done root, no format, no wipe. (I have a backup in case doing this is dumb, natch.)
Now the shop works.
However, the original MRP device supported the Nook standalone app and the autonooted device (this one, and one which was only autonooted, never MRP'ed) do not support the Nook standalone app.
I strongly prefer the real app. The night mode is actually black, not grey, it more consistently remembers where I left off reading, and deleting a book from the bloody library actually works in the real app. It does not work in the stock library app, and the library app frequently forgets where I was reading when I get back into it.
I'll probably restore from backup this evening - there's too much very good stuff in the real nook app to give up. It is very difficult to get the shop to let you search in that app, but recalibrating the touchscreen makes it more likely that you'll be able to. Since search on the device is so weak in the shop, I'm ready to give it up for the better night mode, the better remembering where I left off, and the vastly better file curation.
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I rooted with MRP, and also had the broken shop issue. As an experiment, last night I rerooted with autonooter - directly over the already done root, no format, no wipe. (I have a backup in case doing this is dumb, natch.)
Now the shop works.
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I used MRP because I couldn't get autonooter to work, and so I'm in the no-shop state. I can download free apps (angry birds, of course), although I haven't tried to buy any.
Also, gmail has trouble with my email; I get lots of instances when it goes back to the index after displaying a message for a little while, and for some messages this happens before displaying anything. Is this a FC?
Softkeys also seems to be in a somewhat confused state; I don't quite understand what it's trying to do (well, I know it's creating onscreen buttons or remapping vol+- to replace the hard buttons on most phones, but that's my limit). I often get a popup saying that it couldn't do the task as su; is there some softkeys or su doc I haven't found yet?
However, I'm confused. The autonooter image only contains /boot; where does everything else come from? Does it download everything else from the PC, and that's why you have to plug into a PC?
Hmm.. I don't have SDK/ADK installed (and so no adb), is this why autonooter failed for me?
Please bear with me, I'm a long-time command-line unix/linux user, new to android. I've been using the MRP SD card to install zips, so if there's a flashable zip that fixes this, or an image that I can raid (sudo mount -o loop ...), I'm all set. If it's an adb hack, I'm out of luck for a while.
OK, I'll stop typing now...
Thanks!
Dennis
stolenmoment said:
Softkeys also seems to be in a somewhat confused state; I don't quite understand what it's trying to do (well, I know it's creating onscreen buttons or remapping vol+- to replace the hard buttons on most phones, but that's my limit). I often get a popup saying that it couldn't do the task as su; is there some softkeys or su doc I haven't found yet?
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Softkeys is much better now; I like it a lot more. I managed to get it to pop up a root attempt and allowed it, so it works.
Still no joy on the shop front; the non-gmail email app might be better, at least for me, but I do wish that it had collapsible folders. My folder tree is > 20 years old and rather, umm, organic.
Cheers!
Dennis
stolenmoment said:
Still no joy on the shop front; the non-gmail email app might be better, at least for me...
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I realized last night that whenever I try to visit an https: website (gmail, google/contacts, www.401k.com) the browser FCs on me.
Oddly enough, accessing gmail works just fine, so security bits appear to be different and only one of them is broken.
Does this happen to others?
Dennis
Autonooter 3.0 is great. It produces a Nook Color with full B&N functionality (the stock reader, including magazines and read-to-me kids books, the in-store browsing) that you can also install apps from the Android Market (and Amazon app store) on.
For me, right now, this is "good enough." When B&N releases its update, I'm going to wait for a pre-rooted package here before upgrading.
The reason I probably won't do anything crazy (like go full CM7) is that I'll probably buy a purpose built Honeycomb tablet for that once the market matures and prices come down.
Riley76 said:
I just used it on a stock 1.1 Nook Color and it worked great, also installed Gapps just fine and logged into my google account fine. Everything is working on my Nook except the B&N 'Shop' from the main B&N home menu. It starts to load then goes black and nothing is there.
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I was in the same state. Following a suggestion from another thread <http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005975>, I applied autonooter-3.0.0 to my MRP'd NC 1.1.0, and all is well! AFAICT, you can ignore the instructions for after the reboot, it didn't act like a fresh NC at all.
BTW, not only did the shop FC, the browser couldn't load any https: pages, either. Are you in this situation?
Good luck!
Dennis
Hey, I've been considering buying a nook to install android on for home tablet use since I can get one from work for a decent price and my tax return is burning a hole in my pocket.
But as a good consumer I do a little research and I just had a few questions about it first.
How is the battery life on this device?
Is it really worth buying to install android on? (Have not looked at how to do it so I don't know if it's an inconvenience to do.)
Are there cheaper alternatives to an android tablet if android is an inconvenience to install on it?
Thanks!
dietotherhythm said:
Hey, I've been considering buying a nook to install android on for home tablet use since I can get one from work for a decent price and my tax return is burning a hole in my pocket.
But as a good consumer I do a little research and I just had a few questions about it first.
How is the battery life on this device?
Is it really worth buying to install android on? (Have not looked at how to do it so I don't know if it's an inconvenience to do.)
Are there cheaper alternatives to an android tablet if android is an inconvenience to install on it?
Thanks!
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First Battery life is a good 6-8+ hours depending on what your using. Having Wifi on all the time and running graphical Heavy games will drain the battery faster.
2nd, The Nook Color, already has android 2.1 on it, you can very easily root the device to enable full use of the rom. There are also several Custom Roms you can install on it instead of the Stock rom.
These can all be found in the Developers forum.
Currently you can install
CM7 (Ginger Bread 2.3.2)
Nookie Froyo (Froyo 2.2)
Honey Comb Preview (Based on HC Preview SDK Running A top 2.1 Kernel)
The Nook Color is very Capable Tablet, I have yet to run across a game that it can't handle, you will sometimes find programs that arent designed to run on the inch screen, or you might find apps that wont run on the rom you are using, but over all Most things work perfectly on it.
currently the only thing I really wish it had was Bluetooth, Which it will have when CM7 is fully done for it.
Its great
I like it...I have never run the battery down past 50 even when my phone and Eris was like at 10 so good battery. I dont ever bring a charge for it and dont see a need to do more than a nightly charge.
Very good tablet and works great with Android, the software is new so there are kinks, but they are getting worked out quickly. Overall a great little piece of tech and definitely the cheapest capable tablet.
I just picked up mine on Sunday and I've got to say after rooting it and installing a custom rom I am more than impressed. It's a very good buy for the money.
To keep my Waranty I just run Froyo off a 4 gb class 6 MicroSD without rooting my Stock and I'm very satisfied. Much more Mobile then an iPad.
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I opted for book color after buying an apad and being incredibly miserable with it. My children have micro cruz tablets and while they are good for the kids, angry birds and a TON of other stuff wont install to cruz. Rooted or not. NC is far enough into development that it is a kicker of a tablet for the price.
Alas apad is a horrible horrible waste of money. Cruz is ok. But doesn't run a ton of apps.
Screen wise the nook is incredible! Good luck to ya!
Sent from my Nook Color using taptalk
OminousJune said:
I opted for book color after buying an apad and being incredibly miserable with it. My children have micro cruz tablets and while they are good for the kids, angry birds and a TON of other stuff wont install to cruz. Rooted or not. NC is far enough into development that it is a kicker of a tablet for the price.
Alas apad is a horrible horrible waste of money. Cruz is ok. But doesn't run a ton of apps.
Screen wise the nook is incredible! Good luck to ya!
Sent from my Nook Color using taptalk
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Ignoring the grammer there I pretty much agrea with him.
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japzone said:
Ignoring the grammer there I pretty much agrea with him.
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Hahhaa I can't belive i typed nook instead of book.
Lol
Ipad knock off apad is horrible, not sure which grammar you are referring too!
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i bought my wife a NC for christmas and overall think its a fantastic investment. heck you can watch You Tube videos on it running side by side with a Galaxy Tab and it holds its own. the Tab has a faster processor but for the money and the capabilities i would never spend money on a knock off when i can get a NC for 250. It works great for a tab, even if it doesnt have like the camera stuff on it.
If you are anything like me don't do it! You will suddenly spend a lot of time on this forum, your productivity at work will drop and you will piss off you wife!!!
Just joking!!!
jimmyz said:
If you are anything like me don't do it! You will suddenly spend a lot of time on this forum, your productivity at work will drop and you will piss off you wife!!!
Just joking!!!
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Wish I had seen a warning like this before I took the plunge. Your prediction has come true for me my friend !
Totally loving this thing with Nookie Froyo on it. Not getting much done at home these days . . wife will surely kill me soon!
Bluetooth I thought bluetooth was built in?
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therealguppy said:
First Battery life is a good 6-8+ hours depending on what your using. Having Wifi on all the time and running graphical Heavy games will drain the battery faster.
2nd, The Nook Color, already has android 2.1 on it, you can very easily root the device to enable full use of the rom. There are also several Custom Roms you can install on it instead of the Stock rom.
These can all be found in the Developers forum.
Currently you can install
CM7 (Ginger Bread 2.3.2)
Nookie Froyo (Froyo 2.2)
Honey Comb Preview (Based on HC Preview SDK Running A top 2.1 Kernel)
The Nook Color is very Capable Tablet, I have yet to run across a game that it can't handle, you will sometimes find programs that arent designed to run on the inch screen, or you might find apps that wont run on the rom you are using, but over all Most things work perfectly on it.
currently the only thing I really wish it had was Bluetooth, Which it will have when CM7 is fully done for it.
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I thought bluetooth was only built in?
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hello,
was also thinking about a NC so didn't want to start another thread. Just a few questions.
Is there a way to run the original nook software if running a custom rom? There seem to be additional features that are not present in the standard android nook app.
How does the nook button work? Can you change its assignment or perhaps have short press and long press assignments?
Is there a compass so that google sky would work?
Thanks a bunch
Alex209Cali said:
Bluetooth I thought bluetooth was built in?
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The nook's WiFi card does have Bluetooth built in(For some reason it's cheaper than a standalone) but it's been disabled in the Firmware and Devs are having trouble enabling it to the point that it could be useful.
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waste55 said:
hello,
was also thinking about a NC so didn't want to start another thread. Just a few questions.
Is there a way to run the original nook software if running a custom rom? There seem to be additional features that are not present in the standard android nook app.
How does the nook button work? Can you change its assignment or perhaps have short press and long press assignments?
Is there a compass so that google sky would work?
Thanks a bunch
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You can Dual-Boot Rooted Stock and Froyo/Honeycomb but I don't reccomend it for the un-hardcore tech-savy. Better to go the other method which Boots Nookie Froyo or Honeycomb from the MicroSD card. This can even be done without Rooting your Stock(Like I did)
The Nook button in Rooted Stock or Nookie Froyo by default works as follows:
One Tap = Home Screen(Default home screen for Stock or Default Froyo in Nookie Froyo, You can always install a Different one though)
Double Tap = Soft Keys(So you can use Buttons like Menu and Back which the Nook has no Physical Buttons for, Although you can Remap the Volume Keys to Menu and Back and use the Softkeys or other Volume App to change the Volume)
No the Nook has no Compass but you can use Google Sky Maps in Manual mode and it works fine (Bottom-Left Hand Corner)
Just ask if you have any other questions.
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japzone said:
You can Dual-Boot Rooted Stock and Froyo/Honeycomb but I don't reccomend it for the un-hardcore tech-savy. Better to go the other method which Boots Nookie Froyo or Honeycomb from the MicroSD card. This can even be done without Rooting your Stock(Like I did)
The Nook button in Rooted Stock or Nookie Froyo by default works as follows:
One Tap = Home Screen(Default home screen for Stock or Default Froyo in Nookie Froyo, You can always install a Different one though)
Double Tap = Soft Keys(So you can use Buttons like Menu and Back which the Nook has no Physical Buttons for, Although you can Remap the Volume Keys to Menu and Back and use the Softkeys or other Volume App to change the Volume)
No the Nook has no Compass but you can use Google Sky Maps in Manual mode and it works fine (Bottom-Left Hand Corner)
Just ask if you have any other questions.
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Thanks!
I wouldn't mind rooting really, my g2 is rooted ok, but really this nook isn't for me so I want to leave it simple to use (for my mom). So I may go booting from SD anyhow. Is it just a menu at boot where you choose what to load?
What all can you do extra on a rooted stock? She may not even need a custom rom. Feel free to just link me, but I couldn't find a whole lot other than just enabling market etc. Wasn't sure if there were any gotcha's on what you can & can't install rooted, or even on a custom rom for that matter.
Are those nook key swappable by chance? so where single click brought up the soft menu instead?
thank again
Button repacement
Hi,
I find 'Button Savior' (from market) a better replacement for the buttons that
Android is expecting. It displays a small 'icon' on the selected side of screen, after
touching the icon, the home/back etc. buttons display as an overlay. It has been
very reliable for me, and easy to click 'back' and home for me.
When I read in bed at night, the 'nook' button is loud and bothers my wife too!
P
waste55 said:
Thanks!
I wouldn't mind rooting really, my g2 is rooted ok, but really this nook isn't for me so I want to leave it simple to use (for my mom). So I may go booting from SD anyhow. Is it just a menu at boot where you choose what to load?
What all can you do extra on a rooted stock? She may not even need a custom rom. Feel free to just link me, but I couldn't find a whole lot other than just enabling market etc. Wasn't sure if there were any gotcha's on what you can & can't install rooted, or even on a custom rom for that matter.
Are those nook key swappable by chance? so where single click brought up the soft menu instead?
thank again
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Rooting the Stock allows you to do anything you want (Installing Android Market, Adding almost any App You want, ect...) The only real Limitations are made by the Nook's Hardware and the Fact that NC Stock is Android 2.1.
If someone else is going to be using Stock just for Normal Features I recommend not Rooting it. Instead going the SD card Boot method is better for you.
Going the SD card way gives you two OS options:
Nookie Froyo = Android 2.2
Nookie Honeycomb = Android 3.0 (Pre-Release, iereview/Demo Version)
When wanting to boot to stock, you can simply remove the MicroSD and it'll boot to Stock. Or if you wish you can Modify the MicroSD's boot file so Holding down the Home button changes what boots (see this Thread for details: [Project] Dual-Boot between NF SDcard and Stock No-Rooting)
If you install Nookie Froyo it comes with "SoftKeys" (which I like better than "Button Savior") "SoftKeys" has several ways of use:
1) Can be set to appear by Pressing the Home button Once or Twice (Home Will Appear on Second Press or First Press)(This is the Default setup and it will be 1Press:Home 2Press:SoftKeys)
2) Have a Floating Button that you can Press and make Floating Controls appear. It can be customized by changing transparency, adding a Floating D-Pad, adding Custom Buttons, and Choosing what Buttons appear.
3) or Have Both
Also in Froyo if you wish you can Remap the Menu and Back buttons to the Volume Keys on the Nook and then use "SoftKeys" or some other Volume app (Volumer++ is a great one) to change the Volume (I did this)
If you install Nookie Honeycomb it has Built-In Softkeys in the form of a Permanent Bar at the Bottom of the Screen that includes Back, Home, Task Switch, Menu, and your Notifications.
I think I may go pick one of these up in the next week or 2
Long story short: I bought my Nook to root it. I'm not a complete moron, but I'm a little overwhelmed by all of the options for modifying the Nook. I have tons of iOS experience since I have an iPhone business on the side, so I'm not afraid to mess around with something.
The problem is, the only Android device I've spent more than 20 minutes with is the Samsung Captivate, which was ridiculously easy to root and then unlock so I could sell it.
Other than that, not much Android experience.
I bought the Nook because I need a portable device to view documents and the occasional entertainment. I'm a pilot and instantly recognized the advantage of being able to take aviation publications with me everywhere, including the cockpit. I considered the iPad since I'm intimately familiar with iOS, but the cost was a little higher than I wanted to go.
So, here's what I need: a VERY stable Nook that can efficiently read PDF files, H.264 movies and still maintain respectable battery life. I will be heading overseas with less than dependable access to internet, so I need something that's pretty worry-free since I might not be able to worry with finding a fix online.
Where to start?
I've already rooted it using AutoNooter, but it seems wonky at best. The N button rarely works at all and SoftKeys isn't much help either. I currently haven't found a way to go "back" in the Market app, and still haven't figured out how to sign in on my YouTube account.
So, what are your suggestions for setup? Please be detailed with your suggestions and save the flaming for someone who cares.
Thanks!
I didn't like the stock rom either...
I went immdiatly to nookie froyo, which is the most stable rom other then stock.
You should try it.
You should also try cm7 and it varients, but those are less stable.
you can check out the tutorials on remapping the volume keys for back and menu, although I find soft keys a valiable option.
Can you point me to the best method of install for Froyo? Is it better on internal or keeping it on the SD card? I'm not worried about warranty or restoring the stock ROM, so which one is best overall?
LongbowFoSho said:
Can you point me to the best method of install for Froyo? Is it better on internal or keeping it on the SD card? I'm not worried about warranty or restoring the stock ROM, so which one is best overall?
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Try it on the SD card first, just to start. If you screw up, you can just format the card and start over, it's relatively pain free that way. But it will run a little snappier on the actual Nook eMMC, but you can always do that later.
Another factor is that B&N will be updating all Nook Colors to Froyo in April. If you run off an SD card until then, then you can root the Nook after that update (with new Autonooter built for that new update), and you will have a more stable Froyo since it will be a professional kernel built for the hardware.
You'll need a Sandisk Class 4 or 6 uSD card or a Transcend Class 6 (unless you have already bought something, in which go ahead and try that card).
The build is at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922324
Yeah......about that "don't flash the internal memory" part.....
Everything went great until I rebooted and now its stuck at the Android screen with the flashing cursor.
Now I'm just trying to figure out how to restore it. Ugh.
I'm using a 32GB SanDisk SDHC Class 6 card, BTW.
EDIT: Well, I was able to get the build from your link running from the SD card, but all of the processes suddenly and continually fail. All I get is pop up after pop up about errors.
I'm done screwing around with this for today. If I can't get something usable by tomorrow night, I'm selling this POS and getting an iPad. This isn't worth it just to save $100.
I don't know what all you did to the internal memory, but chances are this will work to get back to stock.
http://nookdevs.com/Flash_back_to_clean_stock_ROM
If that doesn't work then
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=945838
Softkeys works, and I use it, but it's...not intuitive...this page made things clear for me. Reading through this should get your n key working and whatnot.
http://nookdevs.com/NookColor_Default_Launcher
Disabling the service in the softkeys settings was good for me. That stupid little button was always in the wrong place no matter where I put it and wasn't useful anyhow. I also didn't install home switcher or whatever. If you get your n button set wrong, you can just clear the defaults from the app settings for whatever app is set to the n button.
Sounds like you got it rooted and everything, but here is a link for reference anyhow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942424
A note on those instructions: youtube did nothing but crash on me. The purpose of logging in with youtube is to get your device linked to your google account so you can get into the market. I didn't use youtube, i think i used gmail or the market itself or something. I don't remember. I just uninstalled youtube, you don't need it. Youtube video's still download and play in the default video player if you visit youtube.com from the web browser.
As far as your options for operating systems. I haven't used froyo, and haven't spent much time with honeycomb, so grain of salt and stuff. Plus it really depends on what you need/want.
Note: after booting a fresh burn for the first time, just walk away for five minutes. I'm not sure why (maybe something to do with the not quite jit doing it's thing?), but it will be more stable if you do.
Froyo gives flash and slightly better performance over stock. I think video is on par with stock, but it could be worse, i'm not sure. It's almost certainly not better. I can't speak for stability, as I haven't tried it. I think bluetooth is possible but not realistic? I know occip got the chip responding, but I haven't seen anything indicating it's useable. Links in previous posts so i won't make another.
Cyanogenmod gives all that froyo gives plus bluetooth support. Video framerate is poor (movies, not games and whatnot). Stability isn't as good as stock. Mostly it's fine but every once in a while things start force closing like mad and i have to reboot. Also battery life isn't good with cyanogenmod. Sleep has been disabled as there is a bug with it. It will still last over a day without a charge though. It's what i use day to day. Really amazing and fast moving. Seems like every day a new major bug is fixed or a whole new piece of hardware is working. Linkie:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
Honeycomb is really cool and it's amazing what deeperblue did (without much source omgwat?) but it's still kinda just a toy until google releases all the source code. No flash, no hardware accelerated video, no bluetooth, no reason to use it, other than aesthetics. Annoying ui glitches in portrait mode. Neat and worth an sd burn to play with, but not for using day to day in my opinion.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936995
Of course there is no need to choose one! There are a couple option for multibooting in the forums and I intend to get around to combining a few to triple boot. Right now this is what I use:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=947698
I'm set up to boot rooted stock off internal memory and cm7 off of uSD
P.S. If you just want it to work and be a full tablet it might be worth the extra $150 or so for an IPad. The nook has been fantastically useful for my needs and I don't think i've had this much fun with a piece of kit since my first apple II. On the other hand I've wasted a fair number of hours reading about and "bricking" the thing so...ymmv depending on what your needs/wants are.
Hi, Im new here, too.
Id like to do this "Go back in Root Explorer, and in system/app, mount as r-w and rename Phone.apk and TelephonyProvider.apk to anything else (adding .bak onto the end would be fine)." But I can't change the permission...
Even I do habe only CWM 3.0.0.6 and like to have the newest one (3.0.1.0) and Iam using right now the Phirmod V5.1
Has anyone some hinds? Cheers
Can you elaborate on "can't change permissions"? Can you not find the option, or are you making the change and its not working?
For your clockwork upgrade question, is your recovery internal, or on a bootable SD?
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Thanks for the detailed response, ylixir. I'm attempting to go back to stock now and will definitely try your suggestions.
I'm still going to try Nookie since the general consensus is that it's the most stable. I don't care about BT or even Flash since I'll just be using this mostly for mobile document viewing in Afghanistan.
Thanks again and will update with my results.
chef123 said:
Hi, Im new here, too.
Id like to do this "Go back in Root Explorer, and in system/app, mount as r-w and rename Phone.apk and TelephonyProvider.apk to anything else (adding .bak onto the end would be fine)." But I can't change the permission...
Even I do habe only CWM 3.0.0.6 and like to have the newest one (3.0.1.0) and Iam using right now the Phirmod V5.1
Has anyone some hinds? Cheers
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I know you're new and all, but generally its considered rude to jump into someone else's thread and ask your own question. You'll probably get a lot more visibility (and subsequently a solution to your problem) by making your own thread.
Thanks!
LongbowFoSho said:
I know you're new and all, but generally its considered rude to jump into someone else's thread and ask your own question. You'll probably get a lot more visibility (and subsequently a solution to your problem) by making your own thread.
Thanks!
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Dude! The forum rules tell you to search and piggyback existing threads before making your own thread. The idea is that the closely related information is localized, and searching is made much more easier without having multiple threads on the same subject...
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Well, I've got it back to stock 1.1 now. I'm VERY happy to see that since I still might sell this thing if I can't make some headway with a usable ROM.
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Dude! The forum rules tell you to search and piggyback existing threads before making your own thread. The idea is that the closely related information is localized, and searching is made much more easier without having multiple threads on the same subject...
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Well, this is the first forum I've ever seen that operates that way.
Well, just tried running Froyo from the SD card and it just sits at the Android splash screen (the animated one). It also did this last night, but I thought it was because of the non-functional Froyo I had flashed internally.
I guess I'll give HC a shot to see if anything actually works on this device.
Just ran HC and although I finally got past the "decrypted data" error (after three re-images and flashing, no less), I dunno.
I'm going to try rooting the stock 1.1 again and see how that goes. If I can't get comfortable with that, then I'm done. I have better things to do besides sitting around for hours and hours trying to get something to be remotely practical for every day use.
If I wanted a tinkering project, I'd buy an old car.
Autonooker is super easy to get the stock ROM working as an Android tablet.
I'm sure it's stated on the wiki that Nookie Froyo and other ROMs are in development and not meant for stable systems.
Anyway, hope Autonooker works for you
Good news! Looks like perseverence pays off because rooting 1.1 seems to have worked perfectly this time.
I am fully signed in on YouTube and email, and all the buttons are working properly.
Now that I've finally gotten that out of the way, is there a way to OC the stock ROM? Its not really a need, just curious LOL. I've seen SetCPU mentioned a few times, but IIRC its intended for 2.2 and up only. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Also, best PDF reader for stock ROM?
chef123 said:
Hi, Im new here, too.
Id like to do this "Go back in Root Explorer, and in system/app, mount as r-w and rename Phone.apk and TelephonyProvider.apk to anything else (adding .bak onto the end would be fine)." But I can't change the permission...
Even I do habe only CWM 3.0.0.6 and like to have the newest one (3.0.1.0) and Iam using right now the Phirmod V5.1
Has anyone some hinds? Cheers
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Get a Terminal Emulator from the Market. Now type in the following:
If running off SD
Code:
su
mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/mmcblk1p2 /system
If running off EMMC
Code:
su
mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/mmcblk0p5 /system
Hope this helps.
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Everything I'm installing doesn't show up on the Extras page. If I want to open FB or Dolphin or something like that, I have to search for it.
A little help?
LongbowFoSho said:
Everything I'm installing doesn't show up on the Extras page. If I want to open FB or Dolphin or something like that, I have to search for it.
A little help?
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Install a new launcher, such as Zeam, Launcher Pro, or ADW. I prefer Zeam myself. Then you'll be able to immediately see new apps you've installed.
Alright so I have a Nook color and desperatley would like to try the Android OS on it. But I have never really toyed around with it on anything before....but it really intrigues me.
What kernel works best?? I saw another thread about wi-fi issues is this prevelant??
Thanks so much!
Well, you are running Android -- that's what Barnes and Noble uses. The downside is that they've limited it, so you can't do things like get apps from the Android Market.
The easiest first step is to root your NC using the latest version of Autonooter (search the forum). Prior to doing that, you need to make sure your Nook Color is running the latest official update from B&N (check the B&N website under Nook Color/Support). Autonooter (with a big thanks to those who contribute to it) is a quick and simple way to get going.
That will give you full access to the version of Android on the Nook (2.1 if I recall), as well as the Market apps. Play with that for awhile, then start exploring the other Android versions -- which you can run off of a SD card as a separate OS to make sure they work for you (then flash to rom is you want to).
Right now I'd vote for CM7 with working Bluetooth as the most useful OS available on this forum. The latest version also fixes video issues. Another version of CM7 is Phiremod, nicely packaged with some additions (CM7 is still in development -- so Phiremod won't typically use the latest CM7 version, which is OK).
Most of all, learn to use the search function on this forum -- it will save you lots of time!
As far as performance...is the Nook comparable to many tablets?
I agree that autonooter is the best first step. Use a launcher to get a 'feel" for android and if you're happy don't go any further. If you feel you want the "full" experience, than I also agree that CM7 is the way to go. Also, installing CM7 is pretty easy if you follow the guild on the Nook Color wiki via http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devices/nook-color
nooker22 said:
As far as performance...is the Nook comparable to many tablets?
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This isn't an easy question to answer because it's about half the performance of the Xoom and new Galaxy Tabs that are coming out, but there is nothing that pushes the hardware yet. For an early adopter of android tablets, I think the nook is perfect because it preforms great and the price tag cannot be beat!
Compared to other non-official tablets, it out preforms them in some ways, specifically the screen. THe nook uses the best (I think?) type of touch screen and offers a great viewing angle.
Autonooter 3 -- something is definitely wrong.
Used auto-nooter 3 on our 1.1 NC. Computer runs slackware. md5sum was correct. Burned it to a Patriot class 10 8GB microSD card. Inserted the card, plugged in the USB. After the android showed up NOTHING happened as described in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942424.
There was no "sign in" at the Android welcome screen to skip.
No "location services"
Wandered around logging into youtube and gmail. Youtube has both a user name and a user gmail account. Tried both.
Gmail account(s) refused to sync.
Market opened, and we attempted to download several free apps --
Got some sort of 'downloading' message, but nothing ever did. Progress meter, if that's what it was, showed no movement at all.
More...
Restored it and tried again. Twice. Slightly different results, but NEVER able to download from the Market.
It's obvious that SOMETHING is wrong, I just have no idea what it might be.
I'm ready, willing and able to follow instructions, but when what I see bears no relationship to the instructions given I have problems.
I hope it's obvious to somebody what I'm doing wrong, because I'm stumped.
Bev999 said:
Used auto-nooter 3 on our 1.1 NC.
I hope it's obvious to somebody what I'm doing wrong, because I'm stumped.
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I used Autonooter 3.0 and it worked for me. Check your wifi. If it shows connecting/disconnecting, it's a wifi problem - especially if the download progessing bar is not moving. See my note in wifi http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11458921&postcount=1
Hi all,
My wife just got a Nook Color for Christmas and I'm itching to root it. Both of our OG evos are rooted and I'm fairly competent with customizing the ever living crap out of them (I'm running MIUI and love it).
I'm looking for suggestions for a cool but most importantly STABLE setup for her nook color. I see there aren't as many options as the Evo, and the rooting process seems a bit more involved, but I'm sure I can figure that part out.
I already ran the 1.41 update and read all of the basic steps for root. She doesn't want to lose the B&N functionality (not sure why), so is my best bet just to root it with a bootable SD without loading CWM recovery? Using manualnooter that would just leave her with the B&N functions but would also install an alternate launcher and allow her to install android market and 3rd party apps, correct?
I've done quite a bit of reading up but I just want to get some opinions...she's afraid I'm going to "mess it up" like I've done to my evo quite a few times, but its never been anything a clean wipe can't fix so I don't see the issue haha.
Thanks everyone!
Your best bet is CM7.1 on a SD card. Just make sure that's an SanDisk Class 4 card, otherwise the performance will be quite miserable. Just grep the CM7.1 zip, the latest gapps-gb zip and greens sd installer and do it. You will be done in 15 min and you will never go back. I got my NC also for x-mas and used CM7.1 on a SD card for 2 days before I installed it on the internal memory (emmc).
ss12108 said:
[...] I already ran the 1.41 update and read all of the basic steps for root. She doesn't want to lose the B&N functionality (not sure why), so is my best bet just to root it with a bootable SD without loading CWM recovery?
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I've rooted 1.4.1 on my Nook Color and blocked further updates. It's provides what I refer to as the "B&N Walled Garden (with a gate)". It's straight B&N in terms of functionality, and all the B&N functions (subscriptions, Conde Nast mags and enhanced books,free read-in-store) work fine. If she intends to use any of the B&N content, it's a nice experience. If she doesn't, then, frankly, you can do a lot more a lot more easily with Cyanogenmod loaded on it.
Using manualnooter that would just leave her with the B&N functions but would also install an alternate launcher and allow her to install android market and 3rd party apps, correct?
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If you root the B&N software, yes.
Alternately, you could load Cyanogenmod either internally on eMMC (replacing B&N), or externally, in a dual-boot SD configuration, which would let you leave the BN setup stock or rooted. The two remain completely separate from each other.
I've done quite a bit of reading up but I just want to get some opinions...she's afraid I'm going to "mess it up" like I've done to my evo quite a few times, but its never been anything a clean wipe can't fix so I don't see the issue haha.
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The NC is pretty bullet-proof. If you decide to root B&N firmware, be sure to block automatic OTA updates, or it will self-destruct when they push an update, and it will be your fault, buster!
I've rooted my wife's new Nook Tablet, and she's quite enamored with it. Adding functionality from the Market has been a big plus, and I've got her music synchronized with our Google TV setup as well.
Thanks both of you. I went the route of booting CM7 from the SD card and it was actually really easy and runs pretty flawlessly. Unfortunately my wife is a pain and doesn't seem to appreciate how much better it is so she just sticks with the stock stuff 99% of the time haha. I might have to get my own now just out of principle!
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You can always add a few Market apps to her mostly-stock setup with the Nook Color App Manager. I used it to add a few apps to my wife's rooted Nook Tablet. If I hadn't told her, she'd have thought those were stock apps.
But yeah, definitely get your own!
bobstro said:
I've rooted 1.4.1 on my Nook Color and blocked further updates.
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How did you block updates? I've seen several mentions about doing this but nothing definitive. Thanks!
zogg44 said:
How did you block updates? I've seen several mentions about doing this but nothing definitive. Thanks!
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I edited devicemanager.db using SQLite. Open devicemanager.db and change registry->com.bn.device.fota.mode from "auto" to "manual".
That's all I've done, and no further OTA updates. There are more involved methods, but this seems to work.