[Q] Thundersoft for Android (multi window support) - G Tablet Themes and Apps

I was searching for an app that would allow you to have multiple apps open on the same screen (multi windows support). I stumbled upon a proposed app from a company called Thundersoft. Looks like they were/are developing software to allow Android to operate more completely on different platforms, most notably for notebooks.
This type of thing would be excellent for tablets, but looks like they have never released an app of this nature. There are demos on their website, and articles describing the software, but they are mostly from 2009.
http://www.thunderst.com/android_netbook.html
Anyone know if there is anything out there that is similar to this? I'd love to be able to truly multi-task. I know this wouldn't work on a phone, but it just seems like this would be a great way to get more out of our tablets.
Here's a link to another write-up about the prospect of this app.
http://liliputing.com/2009/07/thundersoft-makes-google-android-act-like-a-desktop-operating-system.html

Have you tried powerstrip
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Haven't heard of it, checking it out now.
Thanks for the recommendation. I'll reply in a bit after I take it for a spin.

Thanks for the recommendation! Not exactly what I was looking for, but I love it! Was a little pesky to get it working, but now that I have it set up I am in love!

Your welcome I use it on both the gtab and the evo it allows me to switch between apps
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dmm5157 said:
I was searching for an app that would allow you to have multiple apps open on the same screen (multi windows support). I stumbled upon a proposed app from a company called Thundersoft. Looks like they were/are developing software to allow Android to operate more completely on different platforms, most notably for notebooks.
This type of thing would be excellent for tablets, but looks like they have never released an app of this nature. There are demos on their website, and articles describing the software, but they are mostly from 2009.
http://www.thunderst.com/android_netbook.html
Anyone know if there is anything out there that is similar to this? I'd love to be able to truly multi-task. I know this wouldn't work on a phone, but it just seems like this would be a great way to get more out of our tablets.
Here's a link to another write-up about the prospect of this app.
http://liliputing.com/2009/07/thundersoft-makes-google-android-act-like-a-desktop-operating-system.html
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Thundersoft is who actually develops the zpad ROM for Malata. If anyone has used the stock zpad build, you will see a lot of similarities in: http://www.thunderst.com/bigdroid.html

Interesting, I'll have to check into that.
Just seemed like the project as described in the demo videos for net books would be perfect for tablets. guess they are just developing for custom UIs and not developing an app to offer those features.

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Fun games.

Is it just me or does it seem like our games on android just aren't that great? Maybe its because the devs are just more into making other apps rather than making games. I don't know though. I love android but i wish we would take a step forward in the fun section along with everything else were on top of
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Totally know what you mean. I think one of the problems is that it is hard to be noticed in the Android Market especially compared to the App store, which (if you haven't used) is fluttered with directories that are easy to use and great way to find app that will work for you (I.E. Genius, top 25, etc). As well it is ton easier to pirate games on Android, which scare off developers. If only Google could rework their Market to work...better.
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Totally know what you mean. I think one of the problems is that it is hard to be noticed in the Android Market especially compared to the App store, which (if you haven't used) is fluttered with directories that are easy to use and great way to find app that will work for you (I.E. Genius, top 25, etc). As well it is ton easier to pirate games on Android, which scare off developers. If only Google could rework their Market to work...better.
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I understand that Haha im against pirating for that reason and for the reason that the devs put in a lot of time and work to make these apps. But that's one thing about android that i like is the ability to install non market applications, at least with a rooted phone. But i mean you get the same thing with the iphone and jailbreaking. And i do think android needs a more efficient way of promoting apps in different areas (i.e. Games, business, social, etc.).
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... Just as easy to pirate Apple as it is Android. If you jail break your iPhone you can load pirated games just as easy.
And I think dev's like iTunes better because once you bought it... it's yours - none of this "oh, I don't like it so I'm going to uninstall it though I already have the *.apk file on my SDCard before I do" bs.
The Android market needs to become a little more "dev friendly" and not allow people to get that refund so easily. On the flip side Google/Android will need to be a little more big brother and scrutinize the applications being released.
There need to be incentives to developing good games for Android, IMO. The platform is more than adequate, but the hardware is also differentiated. A guy with a Backflip isn't going to get the same experience with NFS Shift as a guy with a Captivate. Where Apple only lets you download apps to _hardware qualified_ devices, the Android Market doesn't do that. Until there's more control over the Market and platform capabilities, it's going to scare off devs. All I really want to see is Netflix for Android. That would make me supremely happy.
XGX5309 said:
There need to be incentives to developing good games for Android, IMO. The platform is more than adequate, but the hardware is also differentiated. A guy with a Backflip isn't going to get the same experience with NFS Shift as a guy with a Captivate. Where Apple only lets you download apps to _hardware qualified_ devices, the Android Market doesn't do that. Until there's more control over the Market and platform capabilities, it's going to scare off devs. All I really want to see is Netflix for Android. That would make me supremely happy.
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The netflix idea is good and i agree there needs to be limitations based on hardware and which version of android you have. I thinks that's what is going to happen when gingerbread comes out though.
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External Monitor App?

I was curious and thought this would be kind of a neat app. Is there an app that I can use to turn my GTab into an external/second monitor for my laptop? If so is it Linux compatible or just Windows? Is it USB or WIFI?
I've been trying to find something like this also.
You could try a remote access app. There are a few to choose from in the market. There are also a few threads here about some of the different options.
Looks like the iPad has one ... wonder if they will work on an Android version:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/maxivista/id380146095?mt=8
Doesn't look like it...
http://www.phraseexpress.com/phpBB3...&start=0&sid=0de7ef74024f2af56e0f99d9f067c652
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Doesn't look like it...
http://www.phraseexpress.com/phpBB3...&start=0&sid=0de7ef74024f2af56e0f99d9f067c652
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Too bad too, I like maxivista.
Surprised their devs are so naive as to say they couldn't see the market for and android version. Guess they don't actually watch or read the news much.
(BTW, I mean the PC version, I have never drunk the apple/itunes koolaid)
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Surprised their devs are so naive as to say they couldn't see the market for and android version. Guess they don't actually watch or read the news much.
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Lol. I'll second that. Aren't we the "hackers" always looking to do something cool with our open source gadgets? They are as naive as it gets.
I was just thinking of something like this aswell. Is it possible to re-engineer the hdmi-out to take hdmi-in? I'd love to plug my cable box into my tab while i play xbox on the TV (or vice versa) I know there has been no positive progress on hdmi-in with HTC's mini-HDMI implementation. Maybe viewsonic (being a monitor company) has a better possibility? Any dev's feel like taking a crack at it?
iDisplay is available in the android market. works just like the iOS version.
Anyone tried iDisplay on the gtab?
I thought I'd buy it but there are only two bad reviews on their webpage and eleswhere I've read that they do no give refunds. There is no trial version on their site, but their terms of service says that customers are expected to run trial versions before they buy . . .
I sent them a kind message asking them if they truly expect anyone to give them money for basically nothing. But I tried to be nice, and to encourage them to post a trial so I could buy and give them a positive review. Five bucks ain't much, but darned if I'll give it away to shmucks . . .
Anyway, if the app works well, they deserve our support.
My gtab is running vegan5 and I use the HP mini wireless keyboard with both of the office suites available. The gtab is taking place of my laptop and doing a great job of it. To be able to also use it to augment the laptop by giving me more screen real estate would be icing on the cake.
Thanks for posting this thread. I never would have thought if it.
iDisplay working
I gave it a try and am happy to let you know it is working well. It is a bit laggy and slowed down my computer a bit but does work for an extra screen.
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I gave it a try and am happy to let you know it is working well. It is a bit laggy and slowed down my computer a bit but does work for an extra screen.
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Thanks for the feedback. I'll purchase the app. I loaded the XP application and it appears that a virtual server is created which could be the reason for the slowdown.
It would be nice if some of these application developers provided just a wee bit of info that could be used to determine if an app is appropriate or not. I think that the apple market has set a kind of precedent for wishy-washy frivolity that is going to carry over into the android market unless google demands a higher degree of responsibility. The time is now, before the market matures as android tabs and notebooks take over most of our computing tasks, as I think they will.
The apps written for the old Palm devices were held to a much higher standard than a lot of iPhone apps I've seen. But then the Palm devices were oriented towards business productivity and not so much as toy/entertainment oriented as iPhones and iPads. I spent part of the day with my hands on the Xoom tab, and talking to several Motorola reps and Verizon sales people. I must have sounded like an evangalist for the android OS.
If google is listening I'd like to tell them to take their work seriously right now because they could be taking over the entire personal computing market in the near future. Computing, regardless of platform, is not all about entertainment. We in engineering and science have needs that also require more versatile hardware and software. The tegra3 is just around the corner . . . then what? How will all those extra processing cores be made truly useful? I want an android powered tricorder.
My evangelical proclivities are simply gushing forth . . . (in all the wrong places)
Thanks again to the OP for initiating this thread.
I tried iDisplay today. I like it! It is a bit laggy, but works great other than that!
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBD-H8Bhehc

Enhanced Siri for Android [Eden of the East Edition]

Noblesse Oblige​
This application began as a themed method to access the same Siri servers used by Jailbroken iOS devices, but has since grown to surpass even those.
It now has offline recognition, allowing access to everything that is still available without an Internet connection. It has social broadcasting, which allows users to send messages to the others using the application. It also now supports launching applications and improved navigation.
Future features will include leaderboards to resemble the reports given in the show and integration with Facebook and Twitter, to accompany current integration with YouTube.
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where is the download link??
sebastiand95 said:
where is the download link??
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The very first thing in the op post is the link to the site to get more info, which is where I have the
Since this is a paid app section, I was making sure people know what they're buying
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Some people seem to have providers that block short links, so here is a Direct Link
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Wow.
It wouldn't connect to your server, so I switched it to one of the free English/German servers you have listd and it's working great.
The voice recognition on it is freaking amazing, even if I'm basically whispering.
Great job integrating all these different things together.
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Wow.
It wouldn't connect to your server, so I switched it to one of the free English/German servers you have listd and it's working great.
The voice recognition on it is freaking amazing, even if I'm basically whispering.
Great job integrating all these different things together.
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Pretty much any server listed will provide the basics, just not the extensions. The only issue I have seen is many of those servers are run from Germany, so grammar isn't always perfect and the commands are unnatural.
I will openly admit that I purchased, tore apart, and then based my application on siri0us, which is partnered with grwh. I have been trying to keep the unthemed portions similar, much like a Siri theme would be to allow people the option of using either application without it being a drastic change or confusing process.
Surprisingly, though, some of the grwh moderators have been the most opposition on this project. Even with the server being open source and the mass amount of updates and improvements I have offered back to them, they have this view that I am trying to profit from their server. The application price is unrelated to the server, but the proceeds are used to maintain it. This comes from sacrificing any profit to provide this service back to the user instead. This issue has been addressed and hopefully does not threaten the development of this project.
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did u tried iris...
illuminatic said:
did u tried iris...
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Iris is like the original Siri. It only works right on certain devices, the responses are generic, and you get stuck with what they give you, including ads.
On another note, that application forces religion on the user by responding with numerous references to God and Christianity. This is something I feel deserves some sort of disclaimer and isn't really appropriate for applications that span multiple countries and religions.
This works with pretty much anything, the responses vary and are alway being expanded and updated, you can choose the voice engine, the server can be switched, custom responses can be submitted to the server, no religious belief is chosen for the user, and (thanks to the wolfram plugin) you can still ask things like how much caffeine in a mountain dew.
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I am working on the app launching as a separate plugin. The reason for this is that the server has no way of handling things like that, so having a launch command pass through the server would be silly. The local plugin will intercept the command instead.
The alternative was to have the server pass back a value that was read to launch the app, but I would be running the only server that handled it. This will provide the best method for adding the functionality to any server someone chooses to use.
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Nice, can't wait to try this!
Very nice, downloaded and works perfectly .. thanks for the tip!
The Facebook and Twitter plugins currently return errors when trying to use either of them. This is a known issue that is being addressed and they are still a work in progress.
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First of all, great start, but is is possible to customize the theming? Or for that should I go with a different, non-anime themed app?
Also, where is the best place to submit suggestions for responses?
Japamala said:
First of all, great start, but is is possible to customize the theming? Or for that should I go with a different, non-anime themed app?
Also, where is the best place to submit suggestions for responses?
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Sirious! is an unthemed Siri client, but with theirs you lose the search button launch, some GPS functionality, orientation handling, and the default server is configured to their public one (which gets rid of the server theme components, but also most of the plugins and improvements to the server).
In the app menu, there is a button for custom commands that will take you directly to the page to submit custom responses, or under "Interactions" on the main site listed in the first post. If you mean altering the server responses for other things, you can suggest them through the "Contact Developer" link on Google Play's app page or the site "Resources".
Removing the theme would make this just another bland Siri clone, and that was the whole point of developing a new one. If the theme is really that much of a problem or makes you feel uncool, you may want to wait until sirious! updates their app for Siri servers or try Skyvi, Assistant, Ever Friends, Iris, or any other "generic" voice assistant app.
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Well, it's not so much that it's uncool, it's just not Jarvis
Anyway, the main issue I had was with setting alarms and sending texts, neither of which I could manage to do.
Japamala said:
Well, it's not so much that it's uncool, it's just not Jarvis
Anyway, the main issue I had was with setting alarms and sending texts, neither of which I could manage to do.
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I would have done Alfred and the Bat communicator if I really wanted to meet the Warner Bros. legal team. Anime companies tend to be less strict when it comes to "fan creations" but it's often an issue with those themes being considered "lame" by the general public. I tried not to go too crazy but not make it just a background that didn't fit anything else.
I did catch some errors on alarms that are being looked into and texts seem to be hit or miss. Both are plugins issues with the server so they will get fixed without having to update.
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Yeah, the old famous marvel lawsuits. shame on them.
Anyway, one thing that you should probably look at is the landscape mode. Right now it just stretches the background image, which looks terrible. I had some more response oddities, but I assume you can get those from server logs.
Japamala said:
Yeah, the old famous marvel lawsuits. shame on them.
Anyway, one thing that you should probably look at is the landscape mode. Right now it just stretches the background image, which looks terrible. I had some more response oddities, but I assume you can get those from server logs.
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I can only see it if the command broke somehow. It is configured so my only logs are the IP origin of a failed connection or SSL error and issues with code execution. What is sent and received aren't logged.
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[Q] Answer me this

I'm writing a paper on the use of apps for my college course. Basically, I'm wanting to know what the main reason is for the development of apps from a developer's point of view. Is it money, making something useful, or pure entertainment in developing? Also, if you're not a developer how many apps do you have and how many do you actually use/find useful? If I could get some people to chime in and share their experiences and opinions it'd be greatly appreciated!
Non developer.
I mostly use (in order):
Tapatalk (car and IT forums)
Cortana (Windows Phone digital assistant)
Browsers (data compression, normal, tor)
Games (allsorted)
Jesse, first of all thanks for the reply! It seems as if all your apps have an actually use for you. Have you ever paid for any of your apps and if so was it worth the money?
Not a developer, but I mostly use browsers and I also use ppsspp for my gaming needs. I find it fun to experiment with an Android device, because that way you get to explore your device's full potential. And since android is highly customisable, the possibilities are endless.
Thanks for the reply! It's interesting that you guys both brought up that you use multiple browsers. Is there a reason for this? In Jesse's case I can see how you would need a separate browser for tor to access .onion sites but personally I just use the stock browser and in the very rare occasion will I open up Google chrome. Could you tell me a bit more about ppsspp? I have my note 4 rooted and running custom ROM so the customization is great I completely agree. Android is awesome!
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Jesse, first of all thanks for the reply! It seems as if all your apps have an actually use for you. Have you ever paid for any of your apps and if so was it worth the money?
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I do have other apps too, I just don't use them as regularly. Some of these are different launchers, lock screen customizers, and apps like tasker, as well as some one click root apps I'm trying. (if you can help me root my MT6572 please help here
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/help/how-to-root-mt6572-zte-telstra-tempo-t3063048
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All the apps I originally listed I never paid for except for GTA SA(not pirated, but I have some originally free games that are cracked)
On this post, I have paid for tasker, nova launcher prime and my locker pro. That was mostly because I had a free $20 google play voucher with my phone.
Note4Nerd said:
Thanks for the reply! It's interesting that you guys both brought up that you use multiple browsers. Is there a reason for this? In Jesse's case I can see how you would need a separate browser for tor to access .onion sites but personally I just use the stock browser and in the very rare occasion will I open up Google chrome. Could you tell me a bit more about ppsspp? I have my note 4 rooted and running custom ROM so the customization is great I completely agree. Android is awesome!
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As for browsers, I use google chrome on my xperia sp (I might get rid of it when I root it though), whereas on my xperia t I mostly use the stock sony browser. Now, as for the ppsspp, it's actually a psp emulator. In other words, it allows you to run psp games (in .iso format) in your android phone. I think it's one of the best apps on the play store, since I don't like most native android games like temple run, minions and such. Since you have a note 4, which is a very powerful device, I highly recommend you to check it out.
This one IS coming from a developer.
Oftentimes, when I make an app, I saw a hole and I wanted to fill it. The most recent app spawned itself from the Droid Turbo not being rooted until now(finally).
People heard there was a root method so they were waiting on a hair trigger's notice to find out if it had been released. So I took it upon myself to let people know when it happened, where to get more info, and when it was released, how to get it for themselves. It spawned over 400 unique downloads on 15 different devices with an aggregate rating of 4.82.
I also like to improve on apps that I've already seen. If I feel something is drastically missing, I like to look at what they have and ask what I can do better with that.. then add what's missing.
Another example is an app I created that is made for creative commons photo sharing. So for example, when someone needs a picture for their design project, then they can simply open the app, search the word, and download. I came up with it for my senior project and we branded the whole thing, but it never went anywhere because it was unrefined.
In contrast to that reason, I often make apps because I'm testing something and it snowballs. I have a bunch of different "app pieces" in a handful of languages sitting around on my computer.
To summarize, I make apps because:
1. There's a hole and I'm going to fill it.
2. I want to improve what I see.
3. I'm simply passionate about it.
Hope that helps!

Antivirus for the phone

So I know as long as I use trusted sources and don't really side load any apps I should be pretty safe. I am also aware that many people don't believe that Antivirus does anything other than use resources. With that said I do wish to be secure and with my classes I am taking in college (cyber security) have become a bit paranoid. So I would like people's opinion on four available products
Lookout
Already pre-installed with T-Mobile
Seems to do an ok job
Bitdefender
AV-TESTS ranked #1
Works with my Moto360 watch
Kaspersky
I use this on my personal PC and has updates frequently
Has a ton of features
ESET (Nod32)
Most Android features
Supposedly very light on system resources
Given this list has anyone had experience with any on the list and would recommend one over the other?
I've used Bitdefender.
I liked it.
I have a good friend who works as a programmer for lookout it's a good program. But in reality if you are flashing ROMS regularly you wipe out most viruses and Spyware on your own.
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ShrekOpher said:
I have a good friend who works as a programmer for lookout it's a good program. But in reality if you are flashing ROMS regularly you wipe out most viruses and Spyware on your own.
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Problem is I just have finally gotten my ROM the perfect way I like it. Until Lollipop comes out I don't think I will be flashing anymore.
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Given this list has anyone had experience with any on the list and would recommend one over the other?
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I use Kaspersky on all of my PCs, laptop, two tablets, and two phones. It does have great features and I don't notice a performance hit. You should look for the "Kaspersky Internet Security - Multi-Device" version. The five license pack allows you to install it on any mix of five computers and/or mobile devices and gives you a year of updates. Also, something unique about Kaspersky, as long as you have a valid license, product updates are free (including major updates like v2014 to v2015).
If you keep an eye on the technology deal sites, you'll often see the five license pack on sale for free after rebate. I can tell you from my experience, the rebates take forever but they do come. I've redeemed several.
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I use Kaspersky on all of my PCs, laptop, two tablets, and two phones. It does have great features and I don't notice a performance hit. You should look for the "Kaspersky Internet Security - Multi-Device" version. The five license pack allows you to install it on any mix of five computers and/or mobile devices and gives you a year of updates. Also, something unique about Kaspersky, as long as you have a valid license, product updates are free (including major updates like v2014 to v2015).
If you keep an eye on the technology deal sites, you'll often see the five license pack on sale for free after rebate. I can tell you from my experience, the rebates take forever but they do come. I've redeemed several.
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Marty, Thanks. I currently use Kaspersky, and it will be expiring soon. However I do find that on my Galaxy Note 10.1 it slows down the system to a crawl. I am currently going to wipe the table to Hyperdrive, but still, the app seems to be a bit "bloated" for me compared to the Lookout that I am using. I was looking for something that is a bit lightweight but yet effective.
Still thank you for everything.
Update
For anyone curious or doing a search on what the results are. I was able to find this on the XDA forums today.
Thanks go to @Utini for making this http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-little-guide-to-security-privacy-t3042460
Please remember to thank him for his work on that thread.

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