So I did a lot of research on samsung phones and eventually came to the nokia ad57 as an adapter for my yuin earphones to use as a mic + play/pause. Everyone was saying it worked with the galaxy S and other samsung phones so I assumed it would work here, but it doesn't!
So which adapter would work?
same stuff that are compatible with the SGS
which are some of the same connector & adapters with Nokia
check the SGS accessories sub forum, you will find a lot of stuff
Yeah but how can I know what to trust will work from there when that's where I learned that the nokia ad57 would work, and it doesn't.
read all the comments and reviews from the people that have purchased and tried it
that's what i do
i got a generic one from Deal Extreme and it works,
but it kinda sucks, as it only pause/play as it's lacking the extra buttons for fast forward, or go back
some of the nokia ones with 2 or more buttons works, with those you can do next song or previous song
there are some APPs that you can install and lets you configure the Buttons operation
i'll probably try it with the one i purchased already, and see if i can use just 1 button to do all the funtions
Astro Player Nova
Yeah the nokia ad57 that I got has one button but unfortunately it doesn't work even though multiple people have said it works with their Galaxy S. But for me you can barely hear the songs and you have to hold down the button to hear it fully so yeah, not compatible.
Which is the generic one you got? I just need one where I can answer calls and switch tracks, don't really mind being able to fast forward or anything.
many of these will do
http://www.dealextreme.com/search.dx/search.3.5 audio extension
i just got one of those cheap ones for $3
Yeah I just picked a random one from there, guess we'll see how this goes. It was cheap so I figure worth the try.
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OK.. I dont know alot about my PPCPE, and apparently I dont know enough to find a good head set for my phone. I know it is a 2.5mm jack is that not right? I have tried universal 2.5 mm and well some work some dont, some work if I dont push it in all the way, and some do. Crazy stuff..
Anyway, I find one that I really like. It looks like it will be perfect for my small little ear cavity. Does anyone know if this might work with the PPCPE/XDA device:
http://www.jabra.com/products/ewboom.htm
Its called the Ear Wave Boom its coming out shortly this month I believe.
I think it would be perfect. If it will work.
Let me know.. look forward to the day I find a good one.
Nope want work with an adapter, sorry!
HTH
Curious but why will it not work? What is wrong about it? 2.5mm is the plug size right? Why does it seem that some of these 2.5 mm universals work and some dont?
I ask seriously because I am confused about it all. I have a 2.5 mm jabra that works currently, so I assumed another Jabra that is also 2.5mm should work as well.
Unless I am confused or missing some info I just dont understand.
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Will not work, because the 2.5mm jack on the XDA is 4 pole, not three. The four poles support:
1. Mic +
2. Left ear +
3. Right ear +
4. Common ground
On the jabra set, which is mono, there is no 3rd ring on the plug. Inserting it into the xda shorts the right hand channel to ground, and when in phone mode (i.e. mono, not playing back .mp3's or whatever), the left and right hand audio channels are just connected together. Shorting the right hand channel wipes out your headset sound completely.
Something is not accurate then..
Sorry but something just is not right then. Because I have a regular Jabra headset, that uses the basic 2.5 universal adapter. I can use it with my XDA, and yes it is only 3 poles/2 rings on the jabra adapter.
Now granted the button to answer does not work, but I can hear just fine and speak just fine using it.
So, I am confused still. Your not the only one to say it will not work, heck when I bought it the guy said it would not work. But it does. And its not the only one I have like that that does work. I have also used a body glove headset that is a 2.5 universal adapter. So like I said I am still confused.
A universal 2.5mm headset should not work.
You need an adapter for use with a universal headset. See:
http://pc-mobile.net/xda.htm
Many universale headset do not have answer/mute button. Even if they have, it may not work.
(2.5mm universal headset were originally produced for Motorola phones. Earlier models do not support answer/mute button)
What a truly excellent headset, this is the first headset I've ever had that just works.
On the Bluetooth side of things it claims to have hundred metre Bluetooth, which I always thought would only work if the device it is connected to is also hundred metre capable, which may or may not be the case as I have not been able to get a hundred meters away yet. What I will say is that unlike any other headset I've ever had, I can for the first time freely wander around my flat without any audio dropouts or interruption both on phone calls and whilst listening to music no matter how far away from my phone I get. The fact that it has a standard headphones connector is a brilliant idea and allows me to use my Sennheiser's
Another first is the FM radio, that actually does work using the headphones cable as the aerial. I have had several devices in the past that have attempted to do this, and none have ever worked properly as they tend to only find the strongest signals (the worst offender being the Nokia HS-12). As an added bonus the radio is also RDS.
It has a simple but intuitive menu system, the sound quality is excellent but thats probably more to do with my headphones than the actual device.
The downside is that it is a little bit big but this just makes it a comfortable size to use.
It is hard to put into words how well it just works, my previous headset a Sony Ericsson HBH970, had some funny quirks. For example, when in stereo mode if you have audible taps enabled it would be mute for the first four screen taps, and then on the fifth screen tap It would play all the taps together as though it had been buffering the audio, whereas this plays them as they happen. I think ultimately, quirks like this come down to the fact that the majority of headsets that we purchase are not designed to be used with PDA phones, but rather specific phones from the same manufacturer as the headset, this device has been designed from the ground up work with everything. Or so, it says. and I for one believe it.
does it have vibrate option?
nope, my other option was the itech clip D-radio (not to be confused with the itech clip radio), which does vibrate, and also has the abilitiy to let you look though your last calls list and dial from that ! but availability is an issue because it is new, so unless you want it from a dodgy hong kong ebayer with only 95% feedback and a history of selling counterfeit items. you will have to wait !
PS it has no RDS and only 10M bluetooth but is otherwise very similarly featured
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nope, my other option was the itech clip D-radio (not to be confused with the itech clip radio), which does vibrate, and also has the abilitiy to let you look though your last calls list and dial from that !
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Are you sure the D-radio vibrates? The sites I see says it has "3 buzzer alert modes for incoming calls" which I thought probably meant it has three different ringtones built in for different caller IDs.
hmmm you have got me thinking now, but im fairly sure I read that it vibrated, but maybe your right.
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hmmm you have got me thinking now, but im fairly sure I read that it vibrated, but maybe your right.
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I hope you are right. I really need a pendant style A2DP headset that vibrates.
I thought it's not being sold any more? I was looking to use it with the bluetooth vibrating bracelet but couldn't find it on the moto website.
hey guys,
i've been searching some time for an alternative to the original headset.
you all know its a piece of ****
there's a instruction in the xda wiki to mod the original headset and to use the remote with in-ears or something else.
i'm wondering if i should do that..but thats another question
i found the remote for creative's zen.
you see, it has some more functions than the original htc headset, but i think the "standard" functions like play/pause, forward/rewind etc should work, didnt they?
you find it here
thanks guys.
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unless it randomly handles the button presses the same way as the HD2, it likely won't work.
Furthermore, as the volume up/down buttons appear to be used to control the volume programming of the Zen (as opposed to affecting the output signal strength in the line itself), that will definitely not work as there HD2 doesn't doesn't appear to have an ability to control it's volume software-side through the in-line remote. And even if it does, you're still depending on the fact that again, the Zen does those button-presses the same way.
Therefore...too many "if's", so likely it won't work.
mh, yeah think you're right.
so i think im gonna mod the original one.
DN41
This could be a better solution
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320423310940&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
thanks, looks really interesting
DN41
edit: watch out! thats an mini-usb to 3,5mm adapter with remote.
so it won't work with hd2...
i think if i'd be even a micro usb, it wouldnt work, cause i think the hd2 isnt able to play music over usb port, cause its got an 3,5mm audio jack.
I have a nokia remote (AD-54) and was wondering if it could be possible to make it work with SGS with some software mod, or is it physically impossible? It's a nice remote with 3.5 socket, allowing me to plug in my own headphones, and would be great for controlling music playback (cause with just the touch screen it's a pain really). The mic on this remote works fine with SGS as far as I've read, but the controls don't.
www.rolmobile.es/tienda/images/hs45-ad54_312X312.jpg
And, if it's not possible, do you know of any wired remote with 3.5 socket and music controls that works with SGS?
Cheers.
Ditto - I would love a remote for my headphones to control the music player as well.
Nokia might work...
I went ahead and bought one of these.... it does not work out of the box, sound is not output correctly.
What does work is switching the phone into TV out mode. In TV out mode the sound is right. However I can't get the buttons to work at all.
When the phone is not in TV out mode then the headphone socket output is different and non-Nokia compatible. I don't know if that means iPhone accessories work or not.
Its a hardware limitation. I very much doubt the SGS is designed to receive input, apart from microphone streams, through the headphone socket.
Nokia handsets know there is another bit or byte or what ever it is coming through which in turn activates a function. SGS doesn't. The way the Nokia headset is designed, it really only works with Nokias, even to give or accept sound as an output/input.
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Its a hardware limitation.
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Ok.
SargeRX8 said:
I very much doubt the SGS is designed to receive input, apart from microphone streams, through the headphone socket.
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Oh wait, you're just guessing you don't know if it's a hardware limitation or not - and you're wrong.
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Nokia handsets know there is another bit or byte or what ever it is coming through which in turn activates a function.
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Thanks for that exact explanation.
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SGS doesn't.
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Of course it doesn't. I'd have posted that the attachment worked if it did.
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The way the Nokia headset is designed, it really only works with Nokias, even to give or accept sound as an output/input.
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That's bollocks too. It outputs sound just fine. The question which you've not answered is if the SGS can "see" the signal generated when a button is pressed on the Nokia remote. You don't know the answer so why are you trying to answer the question with "It's a hardware limitation.". All you have done in your post is guess the answer as no. I'd guess it was a no too, but I don't know either, which is why I'm asking.
On forums it just clutters things up and adds useless content to a thread if people who don't know the answer try to answer it by making it up. I appreciate you're trying to help, but unless you know the answer to the question then you're not helping at all.
You can use alternative music players like Tunewiki or Cube. They can play the next song by pressing the headset button twice
Device like this one uses the Mic connection for remote
http://pinoutsguide.com/HeadsetsHeadphones/blackberry_9700_headset_pinout.shtml
it *looks like the two are inverted for the SGS (and you have a function for "PushButton")
http://pinoutsguide.com/HeadsetsHeadphones/samsung_galaxy_headset_pinout.shtml
Altough this one states that it is the same
http://pinouts.ru/HeadsetsHeadphones/nokia_handsfree_pinout.shtml
and we know that nokia's TV-Out are working.
For the buttons to work, the OS has to understand the same command as on the nokia, is it responding to anything when you push the buttons?
Remember that enabling TV out mode changes the pinout of the phone.
In "normal" mode with a Nokia control adapter in sound is not correct.
In TV out mode with a Nokia control adapter sound is correct.
In neither case do the Nokia buttons do anything - Play/pause, stop, fwd, rwd, vol+, vol-.
I'm sure the phone is only Nokia compatible when TV out is enabled. In this mode we don't know if..
1) The hardware of the phone can receive a signal from the buttons.
2) The firmware of the phone allows this to be passed to the software.
3) Software can use this input for media players.
Outside of Nokia mode, I don't know the answer to the pinouts.
Of the three pinout links you posted... http://pinoutsguide.com/HeadsetsHeadphones/samsung_galaxy_headset_pinout.shtml seems to be verified. There are three posts saying it's incorrect, but they simply say that the left and right channels are reversed. It's implied from that then that the other aspects are correct.
I think since we're no further forward it wouldn't be a total waste for me to go ahead and get one of the iPhone control adapters off eBay and see what the result is?
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Ok.
Oh wait, you're just guessing you don't know if it's a hardware limitation or not - and you're wrong.
Thanks for that exact explanation.
Of course it doesn't. I'd have posted that the attachment worked if it did.
That's bollocks too. It outputs sound just fine. The question which you've not answered is if the SGS can "see" the signal generated when a button is pressed on the Nokia remote. You don't know the answer so why are you trying to answer the question with "It's a hardware limitation.". All you have done in your post is guess the answer as no. I'd guess it was a no too, but I don't know either, which is why I'm asking.
On forums it just clutters things up and adds useless content to a thread if people who don't know the answer try to answer it by making it up. I appreciate you're trying to help, but unless you know the answer to the question then you're not helping at all.
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I try to help and you insult me? You are clearly a dunce. Ill stay out of your thread.
I was making a guess based on what is known. The hardware inside the SGS is different to the nokia. That link posted above proved the pinout is different thus proving what I said to be correct, its a hardware limitation. What the Nokia headset sends out as a signal is not going to be received by the SGS.
Kindly get bent and refrain from posting your useless crap. Unless you work for Samsung or Nokia as a hardware engineer or they release the information, or you've spent time following the circuit of the phones, you will too be making a guess.
In non tv mode the sound works fine for me. Are u sure you have a real Nokia ad54. A couple of the fakes I got off eBay don't work correctly. If u have a real one the sound works fine for music/books and when u get a call the sound will also work.
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In non tv mode the sound works fine for me. Are u sure you have a real Nokia ad54. A couple of the fakes I got off eBay don't work correctly. If u have a real one the sound works fine for music/books and when u get a call the sound will also work.
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I cannot be sure if I have a real one or a fake. Music sounds ok when it's not in TV out mode, but some parts are missing on some tracks. I'm guessing I'm hearing left or right channel only on both sides - but I'd need to find a file to test that with to be sure.
The one I got looks exactly like the one at the top of this thread. It came without the headphones. It even had the cable tie wrapped in the same way.
Argh! I've just done a left/right channel test... and in normal and in TV out mode the left and right channels are separate and correct. It turns out the AD-54 I have has a slightly dodgy connection.
The test I used is here - http://www.wooferbasstest.com/left-and-right-channel-verification-audio-systems/sound-effects.html if that's any use to anyone.
So after taking a complete wrong turning... apologies... back to what t1mman was saying...
There is no response at all from the Nokia buttons. I've even made sure I'm wiggling the wires about while I do it with both the device switched to the in position and the off position. As I'm still not convinced though I wouldn't mind lgkahn's input on it - Do the buttons work in any way for you on the AD-54?
We know at this stage then that the Samsung and the Nokia both use the same channel (ring2) (my rusty electrical knowledge tells me that it is not possible to use ground?). However the SGS is either incapable of seeing the Nokia signals, or is not looking for them so ignores them... I think that's the summary of where things are.
Going forward from here I think there's no point in trying a iPod pushbutton thing - so unless someone has a different opinion I won't bother getting one off eBay.
It would be interesting for someone who knows more about the phone itself to let us know if it's even conceivable to try to see if the phone is seeing a signal, because if it is seeing a signal then perhaps it could be taught to respond to it? I'm way out of my depth there.
Other than that though, it seems to me that the Nokia device serves no purpose, and the only way to pause/play music is to use an app that pauses/plays when the headphones are disconnected.
hi, i guess that this approach is dead isnt?
I want to know the same..
I bought a cool little device today that does bluetooth audio streaming and also offers a handsfree phone solution for cars that have an AUX jack.
It's called a Griffin BlueTrip. I got it at my local Apple store and so far I have to say it works really well.
The phone aspect of it is just OK but for the price of the device it does the job well enough for me.
I can press the button and tell it who to call and it works pretty well so far. Press the button to hang up if you like etc...
People that I called said I sounded OK... I sounded like I was on a speaker phone but they could understand me without any issues and they said it sounded like there was some wind noise behind me.. but not too bad. Comparing it to how another family member sounds on their factory car bluetooth solution on a scale of 1-10 they said it was about a 7 to 8.
I used Winamp Shoutcast to test the audio and it sounded great (audio streaming is the main reason that I purchased the device.. the phone is just a bonus).
The device appears to remember the pairing with my Nexus S just fine after the car is shut off and started again.
I'll be using it day to day and I have two weeks to return it if I decide it wasn't worth it but so far I think it's great.
It also has a low profile.. so it's not this big messy wiring fiasco.
http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/bluetrip-aux
Belkin also makes a similar product but I haven't used it or heard anything about it. Their's is called AirCast I think.
I think the Kensington version is a better featured and cheaper solution
http://us.kensington.com/html/14484.html
I bought it off Amazon for $40.00 and it works perfectly.