Is it possible to get a T-mobile N1 to support the 3G Bands 850/1900 that the bell network supports? I know it is possible to flash different radios with android phones. I am still a fairly new user to android but i'am trying to learn and u can't learn with out asking questions
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Ryan
You won't get 3G. You need the AT&T version for Telus/Bell/Rogers. You could try Wind or Mobilicity.
well that sucks, neither of those are in Nova Scotia where i am located
You could always try to look for someone to trade with, AT&T for Tmobile Nexus.
But it would probably be hard to do in person if there is no demand for it in Nova Scotia.
I don't know how safe it would be to trade by mail.
Any plans that Wind or Mobilicity will come to Nova Scotia? Just curious.
You could get it to work on Rogers GSM network but you won't get 3G, I could be wrong but I don't think Bell or Telus have GSM networks so you're out of luck there.
Oh yeah, there is that little snafu too. Even worse.
It will work on Rogers but you won't get 3G speeds.
It won't work at all on Bell/Telus.
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Oh yeah, there is that little snafu too. Even worse.
It will work on Rogers but you won't get 3G speeds.
It won't work at all on Bell/Telus.
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So are you saying his Tmobile won't work on Bell/Telus at all?
But an AT&T will work fine on Telus, with 3G as well?
I am considering buying a nexus one for when I switch to telus next month.
Yes, the T-Mobile version will only work on Rogers/Fido with 2G only.
It will not work on Bell/Telus at all, ever.
It will only work on 3G on Wind Mobile and Mobilicity.
If you want full Rogers/Telus/Bell support, you need the AT&T version.
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Yes, the T-Mobile version will only work on Rogers/Fido with 2G only.
It will not work on Bell/Telus at all, ever.
It will only work on 3G on Wind Mobile and Mobilicity AND Vidéotron.
If you want full Rogers/Telus/Bell support, you need the AT&T version.
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If you're a Canadian and you want a "Nexus One-like" experience on Bell/Telus/Rogers, and you're having trouble finding one with the right 3G bands...
Get an HTC Desire from Telus. Problem solved. If you don't like Sense UI you can flash it with all sorts of ROMs that will make it feel more like an N1, or you can put MIUI on it, or Cyanogen, etc...
Or according to mobile syrup(can't link) the nexus S will be on the big 3 in march
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when i bought my nexus one i was with fido. and realizing that they are crap and wind mobile is much better. ive decided to switch to wind. i called them up and they said i need a cell phone compatible with "AWS Umts 1700 2100". right now im with fido and i looked it up on wiki and they use "850/1900" freq and wind uses "1700 band IV (AWS). in the nexus one site it dose say its compatible with winds network, but i know there are 2 versions of the phone and not sure which one i have. its the one that works with Fido obviously.
so can i switch carriers?
tmobile is 1700/2100 mhz
so i cant switch over to wind mobile? can i flash my raido or something to make it work.
I don't know what "wind mobile" is, or what frequencies they use, but if it does NOT match what your Nexus One has, 3G will NOT work, only Edge. This is a HARDWARE difference. You can not flash or "fix" it.
No. Art version of Nexus will work with Rogers, Telus, Bell, Virgin, Solo, etc. T-Mobile version works with Wind. You may be able to use the Art version with Wind possibly, but you will only get edge if it does work.
I meant At&t version. Sorry, auto correct lol
Been reading some Threads all over the forum but there is somehing that is not very clear to me...
I live in Mexico City and also I'm the proud owner of a Nexus one buid number EPE54B
does this mean my phone is from AT&T????
I bought it here in Mexico and was told that it was an unlocked phone...
thanks in advance
There are 2 models of the Nexus One.
What is being called T-Mobile and AT&T.
These are UNLOCKED phones, however, the difference is the GSM Radio's in them for 3G DATA service.
The one you have was designed to work on the AT&T Radio frequencies, however, will work with ANY GSM provider for voice and 2G data.
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There are 2 models of the Nexus One.
What is being called T-Mobile and AT&T.
These are UNLOCKED phones, however, the difference is the GSM Radio's in them for 3G DATA service.
The one you have was designed to work on the AT&T Radio frequencies, however, will work with ANY GSM provider for voice and 2G data.
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ok thanks a lot for your reply! and also hope to get the froyo update even tough Im in Mexicooo
I'm on at&t. I have an N1 that I bought full price, off-contract.
I've now purchased a Nexus S and planned on giving my Nexus 1 to my girlfriend who's on T-Mobile. I *thought* the phone was supposed to be unlocked but there's obviously lots of confusion about what "unlocked" means.
I've found that t-mobile N1's wont work on at&t 3g, but I've found nothing concerning the other way around.
Could someone give me a clue if this will work?
The phone will work fine, but only on EDGE speeds. There are two different phones because T-Mobile and AT&T use two different frequencies for their 3G networks.
Please read the FAQ, question 13.
Why would you think it could work one way and not the other? If it cant work on at&t because of hardware the same rules apply the other way around otherwise there one only be one model.
Thanks for the replies.
So is there a way I can get this at&t unit to work fully on t-mobile? It appears not. I feel mislead.
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Thanks for the replies.
So is there a way I can get this at&t unit to work fully on t-mobile? It appears not. I feel mislead.
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no, there is no way to get it to get 4g speeds
you need the tmo nexus 1
the att versions are somewhat rare btw...
icon57 said:
no, there is no way to get it to get 4g speeds
you need the tmo nexus 1
the att versions are somewhat rare btw...
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Nexus One is not capable of "4G" speeds anyways, not matter what network / device model you use. It has a theoretical max download of 7.2Mbps and does not utilize a HSPA+ radio which is required to access Tmo / AT&T's "4G" network.
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Nexus One is not capable of "4G" speeds anyways, not matter what network / device model you use. It has a theoretical max download of 7.2Mbps and does not utilize a HSPA+ radio which is required to access Tmo / AT&T's "4G" network.
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yes true, my bad i meant to say 3g
the att model is limited to 2g only when on tmo network
Hi, if I were to get an unlocked Galaxy Note GSM, would I have to do anything fancy to get HSPA+ (4G) to work on it?
Would it be as easy as to pop in my SIM card and go to work like on any T-Mobile device?
Please respond back soon because I am trying to buy one tonight off a guy on craigslist, I don't want to get ripped off!
.ili.music.ili. said:
Hi, if I were to get an unlocked Galaxy Note GSM, would I have to do anything fancy to get HSPA+ (4G) to work on it?
Would it be as easy as to pop in my SIM card and go to work like on any T-Mobile device?
Please respond back soon because I am trying to buy one tonight off a guy on craigslist, I don't want to get ripped off!
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International Version Galaxy Note N7000 doesn't support 4G [LTE] Network.
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International Version Galaxy Note N7000 doesn't support 4G [LTE] Network.
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I don't want LTE. I want T-Mobile HSPA+. Will it work by putting a sim card in it?
then you'll need to wait until T-Mobile repurposes their 1900MHz band for HSPA+. I don't know if they're doing it for the whole country, but it has started to happen in some areas already
But it is as simply as popping in my sim card?
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But it is as simply as popping in my sim card?
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If you're lucky enough to be in the right area, yes
Well it's just to make phone calls. It's okay if I don't have internet connectivity everywhere. I am going to be buying it off a guy on craigslist in a place where I normally get service... he's selling it to me for only $450. Kind of nervous that it's a fake/scam.
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then you'll need to wait until T-Mobile repurposes their 1900MHz band for HSPA+. I don't know if they're doing it for the whole country, but it has started to happen in some areas already
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Any idea what areas? Mine arrives tomorrow, live in PHX.
Sorry but don't count on anything more the edge on TMobile, unless you are really lucky and you are in a 1900 Mhz area. If you want TMobile buy an AT&T Note and you will have to do some hacking to get the radio working on TMobile.
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Sorry but don't count on anything more the edge on TMobile, unless you are really lucky and you are in a 1900 Mhz area. If you want TMobile buy an AT&T Note and you will have to do some hacking to get the radio working on TMobile.
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This.
Don't expect the entire US to get 1900Mhz 3G on tmobile, since the radio spectrum is subdivided differently depending on the cities.
Mostly the west coast and pennsylvania so far
guitarplayerone said:
This.
Don't expect the entire US to get 1900Mhz 3G on tmobile, since the radio spectrum is subdivided differently depending on the cities.
Mostly the west coast and pennsylvania so far
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So there's no such hack for the international note? I don't understand how an internationally unlocked phone doesn't support USA GSM highspeed. My T-Mobile G1 supports HSPA+.
Does AT&T 4G work with the international Note? I have it now and I'm only getting 2G. It's god awfully slow.
If you want to buy Note N7000 you will get EDGE on Tmobile.
No 3G
No 4G
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If you want to buy Note N7000 you will get EDGE on Tmobile.
No 3G
No 4G
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On AT&T does it get 4G? There will never be a hack like there was on the AT&T model?
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Mostly the west coast and pennsylvania so far
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I'm on the Left Coast, maybe should l see if 1900Mhz is in my area.
To be honest, I'm actually happy with me my broadband sim on AT&T. I just had the LTE code added to my account and I got a little boost in speed on HSPA+. I'm seeing 8Mbps down and the speed seems more stable then before. It does seem to be ramping up to max speed a little slower and I have a firm upload cap at about 1Mbps, before I occasionally would hit 1.5 Mbps. HSPA+ does seem to do Skype and Google Voice pretty well, I've been managing to use a a data sim as a phone quite successfully.
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On AT&T does it get 4G? There will never be a hack like there was on the AT&T model?
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The international Note gets HSPA+ on the AT&T no problem. I'm currently enjoying my H+ icon with my Red Pocket sim card.
The International and American Notes have entirely different hardware inside. The American Note has a pentaband radio that can be reflashed for either AT&T or T-Mobile frequencies. The International note does not.
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The international Note gets HSPA+ on the AT&T no problem. I'm currently enjoying my H+ icon with my Red Pocket sim card.
The International and American Notes have entirely different hardware inside. The American Note has a pentaband radio that can be reflashed for either AT&T or T-Mobile frequencies. The International note does not.
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Wrong. The International Note has a pentaband radio. It's the same modem as the Galaxy Nexus GSM.
It just so happens that the AT&T Note shares the almost the same hardware with the T-Mobile S2 which makes it easier in terms of getting the modem from the T-Mobile S2 to work on the AT&T Note. This is why how they got the hack working on the AT&T Note.
This DOES NOT WORK on the Int Galaxy Note as we are running an Exynos/Infineon chip/baseband.
Okay. Instead of arguing with each other about who can spout-off the N7000's and i717's specs most accurately, why don't we just give the OP a simple, comprehensive answer?
Okay. To answer your question, the N7000 (International Note) will work perfectly fine on T-Mobile US. Phone calls, SMS messages, and data will all work perfectly. The issue, however, is not with the services you can get, but the quality of the services you can get. Even though the N7000 is an "international" GSM device, T-Mobile uses irregular frequencies for it's HSPA+ network. Specifically, instead of supporting HSPA+ on a single frequency, T-Mobile's HSPA+ service is divided between 1700MHz and 2100MHz in what is referred to as 1700/2100 AWS (Advanced Wireless Spectrum). Because AWS is a rare and unusual implementation of HSPA+, almost no "international" phone models support it. In most cases, only phones meant specifically for North America support it. What this means, simply, is that the N7000 will never be capable of using T-Mobile's HSPA+ network (unless you have the rare privelege of being in a 1900MHz HSPA+ area).
Now, just because the N7000 won't let you use T-Mobile's AWS HSPA+, it doesn't mean you can't have your cake and eat it too. Granted, it is a small concession, but the i717 is a "more than adequate" smartphone and will (with some minor modification) make neat work of connecting to T-Mobile's AWS HSPA+ network. Preliminary speed tests even suggest that the i717 is faster on T-Mobile's HSPA+ network than the N7000 is on AT&T's HSPA+ network. So, if you're willing to sacrifice the added speed and power the Exynos SoC offers, you could gain T-Mobile 3G compatibility and NFC to boot just by opting for the i717; which, I might add, is only $649.99 off-contract at AT&T.
If I can help clarify any confusion or answer any questions, please feel free to ask. I know there are a lot of people out there who feel very strongly about which version of the Note is superior. However, it's my opinion that when you come across someone who's undecided, you should simply give them the facts and allow them to make their own decision. Passionately mixing facts with opinion only serves to further confuse things.
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That is a really nice post. Too bad I already got the GSM Note. Trying to sell it so badly...
BTW unlocked at AT&T is $650
.ili.music.ili. said:
That is a really nice post. Too bad I already got the GSM Note. Trying to sell it so badly...
BTW unlocked at AT&T is $650
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You're right. Sorry. I fat-fingered it. It's corrected now.
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i live in boston and decided to call tmobile about the 3/4g coverage. supposedly the 1900 band is now in use for tmobile 3g. so i cant get 4g but i could get 3g...now i have to hunt down a non att branded note. the map the lady referred to was dated june 6th 2012 so im hoping her stuff is right.
hate to buy a not and still be stuck on edge.
Title says it all, is it possible now that we have S-off?
I'm not sure what difference there is except for cid
I personally think it would be better to make it into an international version for timely updates.... I've been wanting to do this as well...
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I'm not sure what difference there is except for cid
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I don't live in the refarmed area so I only get edge, I can travel a mile and get HSPA+ though but I want something that is consistent. Not just random 4G in one corner of my house and Edge everywhere else
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I don't live in the refarmed area so I only get edge, I can travel a mile and get HSPA+ though but I want something that is consistent. Not just random 4G in one corner of my house and Edge everywhere else
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I do believe Att version is the same as international as far as radio goes. I think tmo radio is only capable of picking up all the tmo 4g.... Does your area have lte?
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I do believe Att version is the same as international as far as radio goes. I think tmo radio is only capable of picking up all the tmo 4g.... Does your area have lte?
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Nope, when T-Mobile rolled it out they skipped Jacksonville Florida
All one versions have the same hadware! It's just a matter of enabling/disabling a certain radio in the device
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AT&T version does not support 3G AWS network which TMO does. LTE support is identical.
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AT&T version does not support 3G AWS network which TMO does. LTE support is identical.
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That's what I thought I read elsewhere
what he said above. TMO versions can pick up 3G AWS since most of their network is on that band. ATT doesnt use that band only 1900 for 3G, but since TMO has only started refarming old 2G 1900mhz signal to 3G signal only certain places will recieve 3G signal for TMO on the ATT HTC one.
So far i havent heard of anyone breaking into the radio portions and adjusting the bands. i think people are still a bit sketchy on whether that will work or not. its a pretty big gamble.
your best option is maybe find someone who has the TMO version and wants an international version. and trade?
I have the AT&T One. T-Mobile was sold out and I wanted it the day it was released so I just bought the AT&T One at Best Buy. I have AT&T LTE but I was wanting to use T-Mobile because I have unlimited on that line. I never get 3G though, only HSPA which is weird, or maybe not idk