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Third party Samsung-"PDMI" accessories

Is any third party accessories announced that utilizes the port on the Galaxy Tab?
(It is similar to PDMI, but not compatible, right?)
I would love to see an adapter to connect usb-devices such as usb memory sticks and digital cameras for backup as well as a hdmi output cable.

i start workin again next week after 2 years of school... goodbye lovely time....
will be coding machines and wanted to make a selfmade hdmi dock for the tab.
...as some excersie after 2 years...
but nobody in here is able to post the pin assignment of his dock or. tv cable.... thanks to the community!!!

Hi
I am also trying to find out more on this matter to make my own "real" hdmi cable for the Tab or experiment with other fun features as sub stick adapter...
The port seems to be a fully PDMI port, don't know if USB 3.0 signaling is there though.
The Dell Streak also use PDMI connector.
PDMI info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDMI
USB on tge go OTG:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go
Displayport info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort
http://www.displayport.org/cms/sites/default/files/downloads/DisplayPort_Technical_Overview.pdf
The PDMI connector features a 2 lane Displayport adapter.
To convert from this adapter You would need a chip that can convert dual lane Displayport to HDMI as most readily adapters use 4 lane Displayport AC level conversions as this chip:'
http://www.st.com/stonline/products/literature/ds/14627.pdf
This is a 2 lane to VGA adpater :
http://www.st.com/internet/com/TECHNICAL_RESOURCES/TECHNICAL_LITERATURE/DATA_BRIEF/CD00214490.pdf
http://www.nxp.com/#/pip/pip=[pip=PTN3392]|pp=[t=pip,i=PTN3392]
This is the Displayport convert chip we want to use:
http://www.paradetech.com/products/displayport-format-converters/displayport-to-hdmidvi-converter/
This is just a quick summary.
The first thing we need is to find a suppier of PDMI contacs instead of ripping apart expensive charger cables to test with.
Other devices that uses PDMI connector:
Dell Streak
Slacker G2

thanks to zab... i finally get a useable tab... all my questions have been anwered :0)
now lets start workin.... i m going to make a stand for mobile and outdoor use.
there are some cheap solar battery extenders out now...
i think video without hdmi should do its job.... look at those tiny mini beamers :0) i own one :0)
ok... now lets reactivate my braincells... hits from the.... .... ....
edit: after a short look at my samsung usb cable..... i have to say its not pdmi standard. :0(
shame on samsung! there are 7 pins used in my cable... ok only 23 left... grrrr

What is the pinout You have measured then?
And does anyone have the videocable so they can measure the pinout on it?
I don't wanna sacrifise my cable until I have a spare one. I've already lost it once and the battery lasts for 3 days. After that it was a long wait until I found it again as I haven't found any spare cable here in Norway yet in the stores.

Belkin have a hdmi cable you can order.
Don't now exactly how it looks, hope it's just transforms the pdmi to a hdmi port where you can mount a standard hdmi cable. But it almost seems like item will be a mini hdmi import.
Have ordered one, hope i will have it ibm some days
Belkin Ultra-Thin Mobile HDMI Cable
for Galaxy Tab HDMI A - HDMI C

step by step to a usefull tab...
bd85 said:
Belkin have a hdmi cable you can order.
Don't now exactly how it looks, hope it's just transforms the pdmi to a hdmi port where you can mount a standard hdmi cable. But it almost seems like item will be a mini hdmi import.
Have ordered one, hope i will have it ibm some days
Belkin Ultra-Thin Mobile HDMI Cable
for Galaxy Tab HDMI A - HDMI C
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thanks, i'm going to take a look at this.
edit: nooooooooo!!! you bought an mini hdmi to hdmi cable.... its for the dock... oh man.
there is no pdmi. not in your cable and not in the tab too.
...i was searching in some other forums last night.
it looks like the dell streak has got the only real pdmi pin assignment.
when i look at my tab usb cable the pins that are used are:
3,4 then 7,8 + 15,16 and finally... pin 30 !? ...perhaps they where drunken when doin this...
comparing to pdmi-wiki and dells it looks like samsung only used the size (you can plug it in the dell tablet) but fully messed around the assignment so most of users have to buy a piece of sh... for 50 bucks.... wow!!!
.... ... i bought fruid-salad but i only taste apples.... .... thanksung!

It's NOT a PDMI connector, Samsung have altered it so it's mechanically compatible, but not electrically.
We don't have any specs on the actual pinouts of the Tab connector yet as far as I'm aware.

me dont buy pdmi accessoire :0)
knightnz said:
It's NOT a PDMI connector, Samsung have altered it so it's mechanically compatible, but not electrically.
We don't have any specs on the actual pinouts of the Tab connector yet as far as I'm aware.
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thanks for you're english lesson. im loose my religion ;0) apesome!
no pdmi, right!
pinouts?...
i visited my mother and got some needels now (nähnadeln in germany, not the ones for heroine)
i am doing some voodoo on my tab right now ;0) ... O
first i was afraid of the high power pdmi-usb output....
but now i think there is no high power...

dagobert drug said:
i visited my mother and got some needels now (nähnadeln in germany, not the ones for heroine)
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ROFL that's some hilarous shi* man, you got twitter account? You're thoughts are mind blowing lol
Only if you had the official dock which has the hdmi out, perhaps you get a better idea how this works?

dagobert drug said:
thanks, i'm going to take a look at this.
edit: nooooooooo!!! you bought an mini hdmi to hdmi cable.... its for the dock... oh man.
there is no pdmi. not in your cable and not in the tab too.
...i was searching in some other forums last night.
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Thanks for looking this up,
luckily i haven't got the cable yet. So will remove my order and buy the hdmi dock and a hdmi mini to hdmi cable.
If i have now the length of belkins cable i have bought it, but now i don't now that so will find a other cable

Standard usb port adapter

Where is this at for the tab. Has anyone found it yet. I dont know if maybe froyo does not support the usb host mode needed or what. I saw that it was comming and yet cannot seem to find it. It was supposed to plug into the data port on the tab and give you the ability to attatch regular usb peripherals.
Any info is greatly appreciated
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FWIW I saw a USB dock at Home Plus (Tesco for you guys in the UK) the other day for 29,000 KRW. Although I can't be sure, it appeared to be just a USB only dock but it looked like the HDMI dock recently reviewed on here.
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I havnt seen it yet!
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you should try out the Elan Mobidapter, it's a micro SD to USB adapter with integrated USB Host. i'm using the Mobidapter often and im happy with it, but you can only use USB Storages with it. No keyboard support.
BTW: Android itself doesn't have or support an USB Host.

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BTW: Android itself doesn't have or support an USB Host.
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That's not entirely true. Most android builds don't have the necessary usb host support as part of the kernel, but there's nothing to prevent someone from compiling it or adding it in as a module. The Tab is/was supposed to do this OOTB, and based on the pinout information posted elsewhere, there is at least kernel support for determining if host mode should be enabled. With a modified iPod connector from Sparkfun I was able to get the Tab's AccessoryManager process (I think that's what it was called) to see a non-supported device plugged in (externally-powered USB hard drive enclosure), even if it couldn't enumerate it. It could be because I didn't connect the requisite +5V for downstream devices, or because there is no usb_storage module available. More testing needs to be done on this before we write it off completely. Hopefully Samsung will just release their solution(s) sooner than later.

That is what I wish they would do. But im afraid with the tab10.1 it may be put on the back burner
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How did you modify the ipod connector? I have a few ipod/iphone cables lying around but they seem backwards compared to the sgt connector and difficult to modify.
I'm thinking about buying some sgt connectors or cables from china to play with.
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Unfortunately I could not find a supplier of the "mirrored" iPod connectors that the SGT uses. I contacted many China-based component mfgs and none could point me in the right direction for that stupid dock connector. So I got the iPod one from SparkFun, used an xacto knife and small file to grind off the material on either side of the connector that keys it into the mating iPod connector. This allows you to invert it and plug it into the SGT, which then gives you access to all 30 pins. The cheap charging/sync cables that you can get from ebay and the likes only come with 5-7 pins connected, and the rest missing.

3ph15t said:
you should try out the Elan Mobidapter, it's a micro SD to USB adapter with integrated USB Host. i'm using the Mobidapter often and im happy with it, but you can only use USB Storages with it. No keyboard support.
BTW: Android itself doesn't have or support an USB Host.
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you know what sucks? I had a $100 haipad that had a microusb jack and came with a 6" adapter cable. guess what? you could plug in usb sticks, a usb mouse, or a usb keyboard. worked perfectly. mouse had a pointer, keyboard worked without a popup, it was all quite magical.
that was on a 2.1 resistive touchscreen chinese tablet.
why the hell can't the tab to this?

Possible to hook multiple devices up via micro usb port?

Hello all. Planning to get a MHL 2.0 cable for my note 3 but I also want to hook up a keyboard and mouse. I have a logitech k/b that uses wireless signal via a USB dongle. I figured the OTG cable would suffice but naturally once the MHL cable is in, there is no way to also use the OTG cable. Curious if there is some sort of hub that allows at least 1x micro usb and 1x full size usb, or some sort of splitter? I realize a bluetooth keyboard and mouse is probably another solution but would prefer to avoid if I could.
Thanks!

In other words, you want to make your phone a desktop computer?

yeh basically. Easier to work while on my lunch break. Thanks

Yes.
I made a pretty ghetto setup but it works.
What you will need is an OTG cable
A stand
And a powered USB hub
Mine is home made, but I believe they have this options made into a dock for this phone.
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I was hoping to do the same thing. But through bluetooth. I have a bluetooth keyboard that connects but I just got a lenovo n700 bluetooth mouse but my phone wouldn't recognize it. :/
The mouse connected to my ipad though...
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After my post I came across the Samsung Smart Dock, which looks to do what Im trying to accomplish. May invest in that, a little pricey though
As for the idea above, I still need to have a Micro USB for the MHL right? Or can I get an adapter to do USB to Micro USB to make it work?

You need an 11 pin adapter for MHL. Samsung and rocket fish sell the correct equipment.
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USB 3 to Gigabit Ethernet

Anyone know if any of these adapters work through the dock?
Was thinking of getting this as it does mention Android but that's not very specific or doesn't really mean much
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=103&cp_id=10314&cs_id=1031403&p_id=11195&seq=1&format=2

Sleeepy2 said:
Anyone know if any of these adapters work through the dock?
Was thinking of getting this as it does mention Android but that's not very specific or doesn't really mean much
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=103&cp_id=10314&cs_id=1031403&p_id=11195&seq=1&format=2
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http://www.amazon.com/BobjGear-Ethernet-Ultrabooks-ChromeOS-Included/dp/B007RTACDM?tag=twnene-20
did some googling to see if it was possible, and this one will work. first review said you can use it through settings without an app. The one you posted should work the same way.

Thanks for the reply, that was my thought so I ordered it anyway.
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In case anyone was wondering, this just got delivered.
I plugged it into the Dock and right away in the notification it says Ethernet port is detected. I plugged in a cable and it works right away.
Now I can get internet in our crappy other offices.
Very happy especially for $15.

Sleeepy2 said:
In case anyone was wondering, this just got delivered.
I plugged it into the Dock and right away in the notification it says Ethernet port is detected. I plugged in a cable and it works right away.
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Is this the adapter from Monoprice, or the one from Amazon?
EDIT: Actually, I just noticed that the one on Amazon is 100M rather than 1G ethernet, so I assume you went with Monoprice.

elborak said:
Is this the adapter from Monoprice, or the one from Amazon?
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Monoprice
Only $15

You need to stick to something with the AX88772 chipset. The AX88178 might work - mixed danswers around the web on that one. Definately don't get anything with the SMSC LAN7500 chipset either. Stay far away from the AX88179. I bought a StarTech with that chipset and it did not work in any Android device I have.
Finally I bought the one Asus makes one for $19.99 on Amazon - has the AX88772 and works just fine (the Asus connect dock for the TF201/300/700's has that chip in it too so I knew it would work - took mine apart to find out what was in it).

Sleeepy2 - Is that adapter USB 2.0 or USB 3.0 ?
The reason that I asked - on monoprice.com written USB 3.0 and the the color of socket - really blue.
But on ebay from the same seller USB 2.0. From Amazon - BobjGear-Ethernet - USB 2.0
Cadstar - Same things, I bought from Gigabit usb 3.0 - chipset AX88179 - working with Win 7..8 and linux , but not android and Asus tf701

Not really sure, any idea how I can check?

1. The type A connection (the "standard" USB connection that plugs into your computer), should be blue, like: media.bestofmicro.com/USB3-SuperSpeed-external-storage,4-B-252875-13.jpg
2. Speed. You really can feel it if you copy few giga via cable.

Well it is blue and it seems fast. The sticker on it also says USB 3 so I will go with yes it is

Thanks, I intend to buy.

Maybe someone will be useful.
My old Trendnet TU2-ET100 h/w: 3.0 (AX88772 chipset) works great in our device!
Speed ​​Ethernet even slightly higher than over WiFi

USB C to HDMI Hub

I'm looking at different hubs to allow the tablet to be displayed on a TV or monitor while also charging the tablet. Samsung's official adapter is pricey and a lot of the reviews I found say it doesn't charge the device it is hooked up to. Can anyone recommend a hub that works well with the Samsung Galaxy Tab S6?

TheCrowing said:
I'm looking at different hubs to allow the tablet to be displayed on a TV or monitor while also charging the tablet. Samsung's official adapter is pricey and a lot of the reviews I found say it doesn't charge the device it is hooked up to. Can anyone recommend a hub that works well with the Samsung Galaxy Tab S6?
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Something I need cuz my TV doesn't do 'cast' very well, if at all.

There are some suggestions in the S4 forum that may also work on the S6.
I may get this one
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07J45WRVX/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A19UZI6QRL56O2&psc=1

I ended up purchasing this one. It works and it's relatively cheap. It just doesn't have a USB A port for plugging in a mouse or flash drive. The tablet does charge while it is connected.
https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matter...I+Adapter&qid=1568761486&s=electronics&sr=1-3