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Wait..so teh sprint nav/tv app will increase the bill right?

So i was wondering before i use or find either i was wondering if there will be a spike in my bill,well i have unlim data but,i know for a fact tmo doesnt offer telenav for the g1.Will i get a hidden fee or something i have hero_over 1.1r3 now w/cyan 1.4 mod.Also tmo changed the 3g here in ny so will either even work?

If you can teether and do whatever you like with the connection, I'm sure they aren't going to care about sprint nav/tv, unless it's a premium service?

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If you can teether and do whatever you like with the connection, I'm sure they aren't going to care about sprint nav/tv, unless it's a premium service?
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wont they notice the large date usage?

Ace42 said:
wont they notice the large date usage?
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Of course but for all they know your surfing porn.

Unlimited data is unlimited data......Unless it's unlimited data with a fair usage policy. Sprint TV will use (approximately) the same amount of data as the YouTube app, since that comes with the device I highly doubt it. Read the fine print.....

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wont they notice the large date usage?
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Yeah they will and they will throttle your account because of the fair use policy but it doesn't do anything...
I go over 10gb every month tethering my laptop (I like to watch porn on a bigger screen) and it never slows down...one of the TMO reps thought it was from Gtalk running all the time...
Didn't sprint shut down the tv for non sprint customers tho?

wait but wat about telenav(sprint)? Will that be a extra charge on my bill or will it stay the same since i have tmobile unlim data.

I use it every time I leave town, along with tethering and downloading crap to my phone every day. I assume your on the same android plan I'm on...unlimitwd data.

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I use it every time I leave town, along with tethering and downloading crap to my phone every day. I assume your on the same android plan I'm on...unlimitwd data.
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yeah the 29.99 extra android plan, thnks il try telenav

[Q] Wireless tether? AT&T?

So after rooting with unleash the beast, it added wireless tether to my phone...
i am very excited about this but i am slightly concerned about actually using it. I have heard people talk about At&t being able to tell you have been tethering by how big your data packages are..
so what i am asking is.. is this concern over rated? can they and do they really check? and how many of you are wireless tethering with your captivate?
btw i have had the unlimited data package deal since iphone 3g so i still get "unlimited" data instead of 2gb limit
thanks in advance, and sorry if this is a stupid Q that has been answered b4

Could they find out - yes; do they, probably not; BUT if you do hit up against the 5Gb limit of unlimited a lot they will start looking. It is not easy, but they can do packet inspection and easily infer that your traffic is PC based and not phone based. If you use this as your primary internet connection at home you will get caught. If you tether now and then, you should be fine.
And don't apologize, use the search function.

I have seen guys post up their bills that showed 30+ gigs for multiple months! Said it was even from torrent downloading! I use it in the summer as my main connection usually ~3-4 gigs for 3 years now and have never had a problem.
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They don't seem to care
I blew it out of the water this moth and they didn't seem to care

Never had a problem. I don't download really huge amounts of data on a tethered connection (leave that for other times). Normal use, such as web surfing, emails (with normal attachments) streaming video, etc should never result in any issues.

I've not experienced any issues. I don't use that much data however. I think the largest at one time was when I had to download Kies on my netbook when I was out of town. Other than that 200MB at once, it's nothing more than normal web usage.

I blew it out of the water this moth and they didn't seem to care
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Seriously???? What in the world do you do with your phone??
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lost2030 said:
Seriously???? What in the world do you do with your phone??
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Seconded... I use my phone frequently for work which involves vpn + mutliple ssh sessions for 8 hours a day when I am away from the office and I usually hit about 2gb. To hit 5-10-20gb, you have to be running torrents or something stupid. That's insane.
That being said, I use wireless tethering and don't pay the additional tethering fee. I've done this for a year on AT&T and did it for years on Sprint (man, I miss their data network!) without any problems or charges.

I hit 5 to 10 gigs a month for the past six months. My phone is my major internet connection. That said, the only time I've tethered is for a friends youtube addiction and about once a week for the s wifes iphone 20 mb cap on apps. No problems, but I've been waiting for em to throttle me down to edge.
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[Q] Wifi tethering: native android vs ATT?

So with flashing a custom rom with 2.2, there's obviously the "mobile AP" function that's built into 2.2.
But my question is this: with ATT coming out with a $-per-month wireless tethering plan, will there come a time when they will be able to detect if we're using our phone's built in tethering, and automatically opt us into the $X a month plan?
Also, I've read other plans where you may get 2GB for the phone's data, and then an additional 2GB for tethered devices. How can they keep track of this? Can they tell if I am using my phone's tethering capabilities.
Obviously I'd like to continue to use my wifi tethering free of charge, and not have to pay ATT for their own service, much like Google Navigation vs ATT Navigator.

Curious about this as well. Came up in a conversation today at work. There was debate between tethering on Android and the iPhone. Any one have insight?

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Curious about this as well. Came up in a conversation today at work. There was debate between tethering on Android and the iPhone. Any one have insight?
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AT&T won't know if u tether through ur phone using android API. But u got to be careful as they can make out based on the amount of traffic u use.

Well, I can speak for the android phones but the never detected me doing it with my blackberry for the last 4 years.
Once they release their "version" I'll be able to report on the captivate as I will use it as much as possible.

Unless u have unlimited data plan, ATT should not care about it at all.
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i have the $30 grandfathered unlimited plan... i hooked up to wifi last month to download a 4.6gb torrent... they havent said anything...

B-Naughty said:
i have the $30 grandfathered unlimited plan... i hooked up to wifi last month to download a 4.6gb torrent... they havent said anything...
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Excellent example of why grandfathering will be phased out. Already doing it to the old blue plans.

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i have the $30 grandfathered unlimited plan... i hooked up to wifi last month to download a 4.6gb torrent... they havent said anything...
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But here he said "hooked to wi-fi", not cell network. Well, unless he means to have enabled tethering and connected it to his laptop.
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Excellent example of why grandfathering will be phased out. Already doing it to the old blue plans.
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This is why at&t says that max bandwidth is used by less than 1% of their network users. And for a company this big, cutting/forcing data plan on this 1% shouldn't be a big deal, even if they threaten to leave, to ensure quality service to rest of the customers.

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But here he said "hooked to wi-fi", not cell network. Well, unless he means to have enabled tethering and connected it to his laptop.
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This is why at&t says that max bandwidth is used by less than 1% of their network users. And for a company this big, cutting/forcing data plan on this 1% shouldn't be a big deal, even if they threaten to leave, to ensure quality service to rest of the customers.
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i was wifi tethering... and i checked last months usage, was wrong on the amt, i barely broke 2gb for the month, but it was all that torrent... took like 20+ hours to download it all... maybe they didnt say anything because typically i dont even break 500mb a month... only at 76mb now... who knows... i rarely tether because most places i have internet... but just casual tethering i wouldnt worry about it... not sure how they analyze the usage for each customer but i highly doubt there is an att employee watching every customer so it's gotta either be the monthly usage, huge spikes in data like i did, or both... was just saying i havent heard anything about it, and that bill has been settled... but they do catch ppl...

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This is why at&t says that max bandwidth is used by less than 1% of their network users. And for a company this big, cutting/forcing data plan on this 1% shouldn't be a big deal, even if they threaten to leave, to ensure quality service to rest of the customers.
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How about they upgrade their network to handle ALL the traffic and not keep selling/pushing devices that people use to consume data? IMO there is no abuse or "using too much" bandwidth. I bought an UNLIMITED data plan to use I see fit and use a device that has the capabilities to run apps that use bandwidth, I'm gonna use them when I want and as much as I want, and everyone that has such a device and plan should be able to. If more people would stand together and voice that they wouldn't be getting rid of the "1%". Customer service and providing a good wireless experience doesn't mean turning away customers that actually use the features that AT&T SOLD to them.

i feel like if im able to make my phone tether without their help and i have unlimited data i can do that... it's for MY USE AND ENJOYMENT.... i realize att and most customers dont feel the same, and any business model wont permit that, so im not trying to start an argument or anything... just how i feel about it all... i have an unlimited plan, that means i can use UNLIMITED DATA regardless of how i use it...
but to answer OP, stick with native android if casual tethering, just watch your back and usage... maybe look into the att plan if your gonna use it everyday

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i was wifi tethering... and i checked last months usage, was wrong on the amt, i barely broke 2gb for the month, but it was all that torrent... took like 20+ hours to download it all... maybe they didnt say anything because typically i dont even break 500mb a month... only at 76mb now... who knows... i rarely tether because most places i have internet... but just casual tethering i wouldnt worry about it... not sure how they analyze the usage for each customer but i highly doubt there is an att employee watching every customer so it's gotta either be the monthly usage, huge spikes in data like i did, or both... was just saying i havent heard anything about it, and that bill has been settled... but they do catch ppl...
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Right. Once in a while is ok. But there are some habitual consumers. Such accounts would get flagged. Cos they didn't complain when u consumed high a couple doesn't mean people aren't watching.

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How about they upgrade their network to handle ALL the traffic and not keep selling/pushing devices that people use to consume data? IMO there is no abuse or "using too much" bandwidth. I bought an UNLIMITED data plan to use I see fit and use a device that has the capabilities to run apps that use bandwidth, I'm gonna use them when I want and as much as I want, and everyone that has such a device and plan should be able to. If more people would stand together and voice that they wouldn't be getting rid of the "1%". Customer service and providing a good wireless experience doesn't mean turning away customers that actually use the features that AT&T SOLD to them.
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Right. And they could charge the unlimited at a premium price. No one expects people to download movies using phone network.
Oh wow, and now I don't want to start a war.

diablo009 said:
Right. And they could charge the unlimited at a premium price. No one expects people to download movies using phone network.
Oh wow, and now I don't want to start a war.
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Ha... no wars here The yelling was more at AT&T for effect.

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No one expects people to download movies using phone network.
Oh wow, and now I don't want to start a war.
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Ha... no wars here The yelling was more at AT&T for effect.
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yes, please no forum fight LOL...

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yes, please no forum fight LOL...
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Yes. That would be the last thing I would want to do with my friends here

diablo009 said:
Yes. That would be the last thing I would want to do with my friends here
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With all the customers att has I'd think you'd need an insane amount of data usage to get noticed. I have unlimited and I used 4.5 gigs last month with zero tethering. Also they may filter your usage to see if your playing an online game or something, obviously if your communicating with a WoW server or BC2 server for three hours strait you're teathering. But if your just D/Ling stuff a lot they really can't tell because your phone could realistically be doing that where as obviously it can't play BC2 ;-)
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Clienterror said:
With all the customers att has I'd think you'd need an insane amount of data usage to get noticed. I have unlimited and I used 4.5 gigs last month with zero tethering. Also they may filter your usage to see if your playing an online game or something, obviously if your communicating with a WoW server or BC2 server for three hours strait you're teathering. But if your just D/Ling stuff a lot they really can't tell because your phone could realistically be doing that where as obviously it can't play BC2 ;-)
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I agree. They don't care what u do. But they could be raising alerts to the network team if usage crosses a certain level. Certainly, many customers satisfaction in any given area is considered more than one satisfied customer. Thinking from business angle here. Most of the alerts they may not bother, but if any tower is getting overloaded, then it would create a high priority issue for them, and that is when notice of high usage could be sent to consumers choking the network.

ejmeier1 said:
So with flashing a custom rom with 2.2, there's obviously the "mobile AP" function that's built into 2.2.
But my question is this: with ATT coming out with a $-per-month wireless tethering plan, will there come a time when they will be able to detect if we're using our phone's built in tethering, and automatically opt us into the $X a month plan?
Also, I've read other plans where you may get 2GB for the phone's data, and then an additional 2GB for tethered devices. How can they keep track of this? Can they tell if I am using my phone's tethering capabilities.
Obviously I'd like to continue to use my wifi tethering free of charge, and not have to pay ATT for their own service, much like Google Navigation vs ATT Navigator.
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Technically, yes they can tell that you're tethering... but not because the tether itself sends a red flag. It's the type of traffic that your "phone" is generating that can be a dead giveaway. For example, if the user agent on your browser says it's IE8 running on Windows 7 it's pretty suspicious. If you're running p2p, gaming or any other kinds of software or data patterns that aren't really expected from your phone then it could raise a red flag. They aren't sniffing everyone's packets. However, if you are using unusually high data amounts, they could start monitoring your traffic and determine that you are most likely tethering. I guess you could deny it. I'm not sure how far you could argue that or how far they could "prove" their side.
However, they're not in the business of running customers off. They aren't looking to lose or upset a customer. If you aren't abusing the tethering (ie excessive data usage on an unlimited plan) I highly doubt that they would care or desire to upset you. I do suspect that some day they may use this as a tool to get rid of the unlimited data plans. I also suspect that if you aren't on an unlimited plan they probably would never complain, since you are paying per gb. This is all speculation on my part.
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I agree. They don't care what u do. But they could be raising alerts to the network team if usage crosses a certain level. Certainly, many customers satisfaction in any given area is considered more than one satisfied customer. Thinking from business angle here. Most of the alerts they may not bother, but if any tower is getting overloaded, then it would create a high priority issue for them, and that is when notice of high usage could be sent to consumers choking the network.
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The most they would probably even do if they did happen to single out a user for "unreasonable usage" is maybe ask you to stop or take away data unlimited. the fine print in the brochure does not say anything about cash penalties for over use it just says it will not be allowed.

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Sprint sent us a letter saying that my dad's phone had been sharing his connection to computers without their permission. We have been using our phones as our house internet for about 2 years, we got 4G last summer, we use the heck out of it. We have the family plan with unlimited text and data. His number hasn't tethered in a while, we have been using my brothers phone for the house internet while he's in boot camp. Why are they saying they will terminate our account because of my dad's number? The phone for the house internet has used A LOT of data, but that's the point of have UNLIMITED can they really do this? They said they will be monitoring our data usage for the next 10 days, isn't that invading privacy? Thanks

They can tell when your device is tethering. They will only monitor the amount of data being used. Not what you are viewing or downloading. They don't have the ability to actually see that. Why don't you consider home internet? Its cheaper than a hotspot or mobile broadband
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They can tell when your device is tethering. They will only monitor the amount of data being used. Not what you are viewing or downloading. They don't have the ability to actually see that. Why don't you consider home internet? Its cheaper than a hotspot or mobile broadband
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We can't get it where we live it pisses us off because it would cost us $24,000 to run it from the middle of our road to us. That's why we use the hotspot, we arent paying for the hotspot, if we did pay for the $30 fee, do you think we could use as much as we want?

Comet1966 said:
if we did pay for the $30 fee, do you think we could use as much as we want?
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I'd think you would be able to, but I'd still drop Sprint an email to make sure with them and get it in writing in case they try to give you trouble later on.

Unlimited isn't truly unlimited, it's unlimited within reason. It's in their fine print. They also say they can terminate you without further notice for using too much data per month, especially if you roam.

You need to come up with a better solution. It's because of people like you that make the network slower than hell for the rest of us. Tethering here & there I have no problems with but people that use it for home internet is just so stupid. You can get a hotspot or sat internet if you can't get a wired connection.

Seriously guys? When did this sentiment begin? People have been sneaking tethering for years and that's one thing that is a preferable benefit to sprint and these phones. Since when can they tell we tether while rooted?

Comet1966 said:
Sprint sent us a letter saying that my dad's phone had been sharing his connection to computers without their permission. We have been using our phones as our house internet for about 2 years, we got 4G last summer, we use the heck out of it. We have the family plan with unlimited text and data. His number hasn't tethered in a while, we have been using my brothers phone for the house internet while he's in boot camp. Why are they saying they will terminate our account because of my dad's number? The phone for the house internet has used A LOT of data, but that's the point of have UNLIMITED can they really do this? They said they will be monitoring our data usage for the next 10 days, isn't that invading privacy? Thanks
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Comet1966, Consider that Sprint, just like your cable, water, gas, credit card company all have the ability to "profile" you. They know who you call, for how long, what shows you watch, how much water and gas you use, and where you shop. etc.
Sprint Terms Of Service prohibits tethering unless you pay for it. They were offering 5 gb with the unlimited for life plan for authorized tethering. As others have suggested either try to work with Sprint to get a tethering plan or stop tethering if you like your Sprint service. At least they put you on notice and just didn't disconnect you.
And I know exactly what you mean, my dad's and brother's houses are in the country and from time to time I have turned on the tethering - but not as my primary internet connection for a household every month.

"I didn't pay for something and now that I am abusing it Sprint wants me to stop or pay"
First, you know tethering is an extra fee, by bypassing it Sprint could have charged you for every bit of data used. More importantly in response to your "unlimited" claim, it is unlimited data used ON YOUR PHONE. In fact Sprint doesn't even offer an unlimited tethering plan, I believe the highest they go is 5GB. It sucks you live in a crappy part of town but you need to look into an actual solution.

There is NO WAY of me finding another solution, we CANNOT get cable internet at this point in time. It would cost us $24,000 to run it to us. Now of course all the cable companys get our hopes up by saying that they have it in our area, right up until we call to get it. Google intended for the tethering to be free in the beggining, but yes its really up to the carriers. It is the only thing that we know of that is actually usable and stable. No need to start pointing fingers, I was just figuring out why. And to say "it's because of people like us that the networks are slow" is the dumbest dank thing I've heard today, 1 of the five phones that are on our plan could be downloading a torrent at 2.5MBps right next to me, and I would still get 20MBps, I believe yes they throttle us otherwise one guy would be getting 100MBps and the other would be getting 1. Bit the limits of our radio's also do that.

Comet1966 said:
There is NO WAY of me finding another solution, we CANNOT get cable internet at this point in time. It would cost us $24,000 to run it to us. Now of course all the cable companys get our hopes up by saying that they have it in our area, right up until we call to get it. Google intended for the tethering to be free in the beggining, but yes its really up to the carriers. It is the only thing that we know of that is actually usable and stable. No need to start pointing fingers, I was just figuring out why. And to say "it's because of people like us that the networks are slow" is the dumbest dank thing I've heard today, 1 of the five phones that are on our plan could be downloading a torrent at 2.5MBps right next to me, and I would still get 20MBps, I believe yes they throttle us otherwise one guy would be getting 100MBps and the other would be getting 1. Bit the limits of our radio's also do that.
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Why not just pay for a Sprint MIFI card? Believe you get 5 GB a month? Is DSL available in your area or maybe even another wireless provider (at my dad's house, they have a company that has basically WIFI that uses a special receiver attached to a small dish antenna pointed towards a tower)?
And if you are running Torrent traffic over a Sprint connection, that definitely isn't standard "smart phone" traffic along with the amount of Internet traffic, is what Sprint is looking at when it comes to "abuse".

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Why not just pay for a Sprint MIFI card? Believe you get 5 GB a month? Is DSL available in your area or maybe even another wireless provider (at my dad's house, they have a company that has basically WIFI that uses a special receiver attached to a small dish antenna pointed towards a tower)?
And if you are running Torrent traffic over a Sprint connection, that definitely isn't standard "smart phone" traffic along with the amount of Internet traffic, is what Sprint is looking at when it comes to "abuse".
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Yeah, we had something called planet connect it aimed at a tower, but it was highly unstable and their customer support sucks now.

Well your only option now is to find another solution because if you keep abusing Sprints network your account WILL be canceled. This is not something new and this is not the only thread like this. I admit I do tether but it's only to send an email or two every once in a while. You have clearly been abusing the system and now you've been put on notice. You will probably continue to do it then you will start another thread complaining that sprint canceled your service for no reason. I am not trying be be an a#$ but you've been a member of xda since 2011, you had to have seen other threads like this.
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How much data were you using a month?

Comet1966 said:
There is NO WAY of me finding another solution, we CANNOT get cable internet at this point in time. It would cost us $24,000 to run it to us. Now of course all the cable companys get our hopes up by saying that they have it in our area, right up until we call to get it. Google intended for the tethering to be free in the beggining, but yes its really up to the carriers. It is the only thing that we know of that is actually usable and stable. No need to start pointing fingers, I was just figuring out why. And to say "it's because of people like us that the networks are slow" is the dumbest dank thing I've heard today, 1 of the five phones that are on our plan could be downloading a torrent at 2.5MBps right next to me, and I would still get 20MBps, I believe yes they throttle us otherwise one guy would be getting 100MBps and the other would be getting 1. Bit the limits of our radio's also do that.
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NO WAY at all huh. You can get a mifi card using the same network connection. You shouldn't be torrenting over hacked tether. I hope they cancel your account and they should. The bottom line it does affect other users & the network. Sprint's 3G is painful enough as it is, borderline useless in some areas. Stop being cheap and get a mifi card. If you actually paid for a capped connection, you would be a lot more careful with what you were using bandwidth for.

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Yeah, we had something called planet connect it aimed at a tower, but it was highly unstable and their customer support sucks now.
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Have you tried these guys
ABG Wireless, LLC
Beasley Wireless Internet
Ken-Tenn Wireless
They are all WISPs in TN

tws101 said:
Have you tried these guys
ABG Wireless, LLC
Beasley Wireless Internet
Ken-Tenn Wireless
They are all WISPs in TN
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I've never heard of them, but I will mention them to my father. Thanks

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NO WAY at all huh. You can get a mifi card using the same network connection. You shouldn't be torrenting over hacked tether. I hope they cancel your account and they should. The bottom line it does affect other users & the network. Sprint's 3G is painful enough as it is, borderline useless in some areas. Stop being cheap and get a mifi card. If you actually paid for a capped connection, you would be a lot more careful with what you were using bandwidth for.
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Have you seen the price of a mifi card plan, its insane. My dad called them today to try and figure out why, and the lady could not tell him she just kept saying we violated the terms of service, he asked which terms we violated, she said "I don't know".... Yeah Sprint " ranked #1 in customer service" BS they can't tell us anything, that's 2 people from there giving out useless information. If there was another company in our area that actually had reasonable prices for 5 phones, we would let them drop us in a heartbeat. Thanks for your information though, no reason to be an ass though.

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How much data were you using a month?
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Too much, I guess we hadn't had internet that was more than 100kbps in well, ever so we NON-STOP used it, from playing games to watching Netflix.

Comet1966 said:
Have you seen the price of a mifi card plan, its insane. My dad called them today to try and figure out why, and the lady could not tell him she just kept saying we violated the terms of service, he asked which terms we violated, she said "I don't know".... Yeah Sprint " ranked #1 in customer service" BS they can't tell us anything, that's 2 people from there giving out useless information. If there was another company in our area that actually had reasonable prices for 5 phones, we would let them drop us in a heartbeat. Thanks for your information though, no reason to be an ass though.
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READ THROUGH YOUR CONTRACT. There are provisions regarding the use of tethering. Its not the CSR's job to know what you and a million other people signed, It is yours. Sprint does not offer unlimited tethering. It is a separate charge and even then it has a maximum limit. It has always been that way, don't forget tethering existed well before Android ever did. This isn't even an argument, no matter what way you twist this you're wrong.

TMO starts data throttling again.

T-Mobile starts data throttling. I knew this carrier was to good to be true. This sounds like a breach of contract to me. Im in a contract and pay for unlimited data without throttling. I asked the sales rep before I left AT&T, and was assured and even have it in writing. Contract is no longer binding if they breech and continue to breech contract.
This is ridiculous.
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http://www.engadget.com/2014/08/13/t-mobile-cracks-down-on-data-abusers/
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Maybe they not making enough money as folks thought they was and being abused on the data is hurting them real bad maybe? T mobile needs a buyer badly they need a merger or something to help them with the cash to be able to do everything they want to do they came along way and did good but they can't keep going unless they get help.

Before you listen to he say she say read for yourself. Tmobile throttling will only affect P2P users and people using third party tethering to go beyond the tethering limit. The CEO of Tmobile already cleared up if you use 1TB for data browsing, netflix, hulu, and etc your safe.

1 TB of data? And how are they to tell or decide who is using a third party apk to tether beyond limit? Its a violation of privacy to go into you phone and see from where or how you use your data.

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1 TB of data? And how are they to tell or decide who is using a third party apk to tether beyond limit? Its a violation of privacy to go into you phone and see from where or how you use your data.
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When you signed up for tmobile youe were guaranteed unlimited data on your phone only not unlimited tethering to other devices or downloading illegal torrents.

I don't download any torrents of any kind..... Don't know where you got that. And I only have 3 gigs of tether after that its shut off. So...... Where were you headed with that.....

mattwheat said:
1 TB of data? And how are they to tell or decide who is using a third party apk to tether beyond limit? Its a violation of privacy to go into you phone and see from where or how you use your data.
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They don't have to decide...... They know the limitations of hardware and how much it can down load. Also it's not what you have on your phone, it's how much data your using from their network. Which your using their network, so there is no violation of privacy.
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mattwheat said:
I don't download any torrents of any kind..... Don't know where you got that. And I only have 3 gigs of tether after that its shut off. So...... Where were you headed with that.....
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So why are you complaining about throttling when it wont affect you

Cuz I still pull 50+ gigs a month. And its the principle of it. Advertise one thing then get a bunch of people to switch to T-Mobile then change the rules in the middle of the game.

And this didn't really start as a complaint. I started the thread to inform people. Share information to make others aware.

We gotcha........
T-mobile is just doing the something that Metro PCS did years ago. And just saying, hey for those who are abusing the network we will step in and throttle you down if you keep it up.
It won't effect people who aren't abusing the network. Only the people who are.
T-Mobile's thing is to give those people fare warning before they do throttle them down.
So if your using under 50GB a month you probably have nothing to worry about. But if you're a person who is using 300GB then you might be throttled down. Just for example.
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T-Mobile CEO stated you can use 1 TB of data and you still wont be throttled. T-mobile is only throttling users who use 3rd party apps to bypass the monthly tethering limit I'm on unlimited everything so my tethering limit is 5gb . T-Mobile will also throttle u if your using there serivce for p2p/torrents most content is copyrighted and illegal to download anyway plus its heavy on uploading on tmobile network. If you dont do the two things i posted your safe from throttled.

mattwheat said:
And this didn't really start as a complaint. I started the thread to inform people. Share information to make others aware.
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really 3 gbs only?
this coming from the same guy who was raving about how to downloaded something to let him tether to his hearts content?
have you forgotten we can see your post history?

tomthedancingbug said:
really 3 gbs only?
this coming from the same guy who was raving about how to downloaded something to let him tether to his hearts content?
have you forgotten we can see your post history?
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3gb is all I get for free. Using the tether hack I get a lot more. But it's kinda like a car. When I bought it it only gets 24 mpg but after the modifications done it gets 27 mpg. Does that give the dealership right to charge me more or the gas station the right to charge me more. And no I'm smart enough to know you can read my history of post just glad you're smart enough to know how to do that. Now are you smart enough to know how to pull your finger out of your ass and move on past this. Since I've explained that this post was only to inform people of tmobiles future plans. Well you ought to be cuz that's in my post history too.

Boom he just got served lmao

They slowed me down at 100gb, no tethering at all