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HI people. First of XDA Forum and Dev as you guy's are doing a great job.
Secondly i have this Motorola Milestone GSM version. I am stuck on Android 2.1, as every one how fast Motorola release Android updates for their smartphones. I have gone through lot of Rooting guides but i haven't tried one yet.
As there are lot of Rooting guides and ROM for Motorola milestone on XDA as well, i am kind confuse how to do rooting and how to use a ultimate ROM on Milestone.
If you guy's can look at my Moto version as given below and can suggest me some step by step guide and Some Good ROMS as well i will be very thankful to you guys'
I know there are lot of other users who have asked same question but i want it kind simple and crisp.
Model Number
Milestone
Firmware Version
2.1-update1
Firmware Configuration Versio n
GAS_EMEA_USASHLS00RTINT_P016
Baseband Version
3GSMEPU91A_U_91.07.56I
Kernel Version
2.6.29-omap1
Build Number
SHOLS_U2_02.36.0
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Most one-click-rooters work fine with the Milestone and it doesn't get any easier then running an app .
That's how I did my at least.
I have used universal root, but that doesn't allow APP2SD and using custom ROMS. So i want complete rooting so that i can load custom roms.
gaggid said:
I have used universal root, but that doesn't allow APP2SD and using custom ROMS. So i want complete rooting so that i can load custom roms.
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Yes it does...
The problem is that:
-for APP2SD you must have ext2 partition which you probably didnt create and for Custom ROMS you have to load the vulnerable recovery...which you probably didnt do...as well
Just my supposing...Corect me if I'm wrong!
First, ( I think) you have to flash vulnerable recovery, then root. There is also a beta 2.2.1 beta sbf available. after achieving root, you can google GOT TEAM ANDROID and click the first link which should lead to their blog - http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&sourc...BQ82GR7pNmLJSfPpg&sig2=Jd4iM6Nov5eYhJa2yrZLGg and there should be further instructions there. Good luck ( remember I think these are true, not 100% sure)
mohitrocks said:
First, ( I think) you have to flash vulnerable recovery, then root. There is also a beta 2.2.1 beta sbf available. after achieving root, you can google GOT TEAM ANDROID and click the first link which should lead to their blog - and there should be further instructions there. Good luck ( remember I think these are true, not 100% sure)
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Can you guide me through on how to do
Flash Vulnerable Reovery.
How to root Milestone
What is SBF and how to use it.
What GOT TEAM ANDROID and why i need them?
If your milestone is anything like mine (I use the milestone available from telus, in canada), then your service provider may have added an un-root and return-to-factory-bootloader check on every boot.
in which case, you would need to install the OpenRecovery backup tool onto your sd card (it's an update.zip file + OpenRecovery directory), then flash a vulnerable bootloader using spf. reboot the phone (as is necessary when doing this flash), and as the system is coming up, start up into recovery (by pressing+holding the camera button, waiting for the yellow triangle w/"!", then pressing vol+ and the camera button), then execute update.zip
drop to terminal, and depending on your model, the .sh file that's un-rooting your phone may be in a different location, and simply rename the file, delete it, or make it non-executable.
Good luck!
Mystik said:
If your milestone is anything like mine (I use the milestone available from telus, in canada), then your service provider may have added an un-root and return-to-factory-bootloader check on every boot.
drop to terminal, and depending on your model, the .sh file that's un-rooting your phone may be in a different location, and simply rename the file, delete it, or make it non-executable.
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I just bought the telus milestone a few days ago and am looking to bypass the update.zip when I go into recovery by permanently replacing the stock recovery with a custom recovery, would disabling this .sh file aid me in this respect?
Where could I find it?
I think i found complete guide for doing this.
Hope it will work.
Which ROM is best for Milestone ?
I am not talking about jazzy ROMs, i want a ROM with all cool features + stable functionality
i always have a hard time rooting Milestones :/
Still not able to get any strong good references on Hacking Milestone.
Hy. I have a motorola milestone with androin 2.1.
I would like to reflas it to android 2.3. If is that possible can someone provide me with a link about a tutorial.
darko1515 said:
Hy. I have a motorola milestone with androin 2.1.
I would like to reflas it to android 2.3. If is that possible can someone provide me with a link about a tutorial.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932196
The above link is a guide to rooting, installing vulnerable recovery and instgalling ROMs. 2.3 ROMs are not any different. Do the first steps and then choose a ROM (I like CM7 ) that uses 2.3.
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darko1515 said:
Hy. I have a motorola milestone with androin 2.1.
I would like to reflas it to android 2.3. If is that possible can someone provide me with a link about a tutorial.
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Firstly, you must flash G.O.T 2.2.1 then you can follow some 2.3 ROM in this thread. I have try CM7, HO!NO!, ShadowMod, ... you can try theme
after flashing with G.O.T 2.2.1, that means that I have now the android 2.2 ? because if so...that would be enough for me now, I just want to install applications on SD card, ....as in android 2.1 is not possible.
Yes, you have 2.2 and rooted phone.
Worth a look at the 2.2 or 2.3 roms and themes though as once you are rooted it is just a case up putting the zip in the right directory of your sd card and installing it in openrecovery
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ok. After reading the forum about rooting i have some questions.
I have downloaded from GOT homepage the RETAIL EUROPE (RTEU) fireware. According to the guide...first I have to flash with rds light the GOT_RTEU_2_2_1FULL and then with 'G.O.T OpenRecovery V2.0' root the phone and then apply custom roms.
My question is that I do not have to wipe data + cache + dlavik cache before applying ANY roms, lik 'GOT_RTEU_2_2_1FULL' - and this meaning that i have to instal first 'G.O.T OpenRecovery V2.0'.
By flashing with rds light 'GOT_RTEU_2_2_1FULL' means that I didn't apply a rom?
darko1515 said:
ok. After reading the forum about rooting i have some questions.
I have downloaded from GOT homepage the RETAIL EUROPE (RTEU) fireware. According to the guide...first I have to flash with rds light the GOT_RTEU_2_2_1FULL and then with 'G.O.T OpenRecovery V2.0' root the phone and then apply custom roms.
My question is that I do not have to wipe data + cache + dlavik cache before applying ANY roms, lik 'GOT_RTEU_2_2_1FULL' - and this meaning that i have to instal first 'G.O.T OpenRecovery V2.0'.
By flashing with rds light 'GOT_RTEU_2_2_1FULL' means that I didn't apply a rom?
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SBFs are usually a bit different then normal ROMs. They usually wipe the entire phone and radio firmware and other stuff.
If you use and SBF file using rsd, you are now on a different motorola version/platform.
I would recommend NOT stopping there. The GOT sbf is a useful starting point because it does 2 things at once: the vulnerable recovery and the new radio files. But as an operating system...it is FULL of bugs. It is a motorla leak from something like october.
There have been MANY since then. I would apply CM6 or at the very least a more recent moto leak (the 1-25 nandroid wors very well).
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where do I find CM6?
'HO!NO! CM6 mod by HO!NO! (As of now, this must be applied over CM6 as nandroid. Please ensure that the version of HO!NO! complies with whichever version of CM6 you are using. '
or 1-25 nandroid
i just need android 2.2 on my milestone 2.1 for now.
A stable version.
darko1515 said:
where do I find CM6?
'HO!NO! CM6 mod by HO!NO! (As of now, this must be applied over CM6 as nandroid. Please ensure that the version of HO!NO! complies with whichever version of CM6 you are using. '
or 1-25 nandroid
i just need android 2.2 on my milestone 2.1 for now.
A stable version.
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CM6 is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=784750
so first I flash with rds light 4.9 'GOT_RTEU_2_2_1FULL'
then install OpenRecovery-3_3
then use OpenRecovery-3_3 to upgrade 'update-cm-6.1.2-0.07-11.01.28-Milestone-signed' 0.07-11.01.2 and that should be it?
I'll start flashing...hope no errors
sounds about right
list of roms here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11593755#post11593755
Just pick the 2.2 ROM that takes your fancy. 2.3 is still a bit bleeding edge so will have some bugs.
darko1515 said:
so first I flash with rds light 4.9 'GOT_RTEU_2_2_1FULL'
then install OpenRecovery-3_3
then use OpenRecovery-3_3 to upgrade 'update-cm-6.1.2-0.07-11.01.28-Milestone-signed' 0.07-11.01.2 and that should be it?
I'll start flashing...hope no errors
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You are forgetting 2 important steps (read the CM6 install instructions)
1) Do a "WIPE DALVIK CACHE" and "WIPE CACHE PARTITION before installing CM
(you can do this from Open Recovery or Androidiani recovery).
2) You need to install the latest GAPPS for CM6 (check the CM6 guide for link) or you won't have Gmail, Market and all other Gstuff.
Hope this helps!
I do not find latest GAPPS for CM6. i found something on http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Latest_Version#Google_Apps , but i do not know witch should i download for milestone (medium-tiny (Tiny), medium (MDPI), or high (HDPI), and how to install it after download.
And market icon is not present into my meniu
darko1515 said:
I do not find latest GAPPS for CM6. i found something on http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Latest_Version#Google_Apps , but i do not know witch should i download for milestone (medium-tiny (Tiny), medium (MDPI), or high (HDPI), and how to install it after download.
And market icon is not present into my meniu
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You need the HDPI version. To install, simply put the zip file in the same folder as CM6 and and follow the same process. (Place in openrecovery/updates and use the install update.zip feature of open recovery.
You will have all google stuff after this.
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Hi guys,
I'd also got the same question as OP. If I've got a Milestone phone from New Zealand, which vulnerable recovery file should i download from this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932196
vulnerable recovery from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698059 , post #3
Caz666 said:
You need the HDPI version. To install, simply put the zip file in the same folder as CM6 and and follow the same process. (Place in openrecovery/updates and use the install update.zip feature of open recovery.
You will have all google stuff after this.
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ok . thanks. I've succeed.
just one question. how to set by default the installation of apps from market to sdcard. in syanogenemod settings/apps settings/install location ,I selected external, but not all apps are installed on the external memory.
and i made another update of the CM6, (whipe everithing), but why my apps that i istalled on the sdcard are gone/?
darko1515 said:
ok . thanks. I've succeed.
just one question. how to set by default the installation of apps from market to sdcard. in syanogenemod settings/apps settings/install location ,I selected external, but not all apps are installed on the external memory.
and i made another update of the CM6, (whipe everithing), but why my apps that i istalled on the sdcard are gone/?
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1) i have never tried to change this setting. Best to ask in the question in the CM6 thread in the dev section.
2) if you want a consisent SDcard experience between wipes, look up the apps2ext module and feature (search the forum). It works better for this sort of thing. It is a non native way to store apps and data on the sd card (special ext2 partition) by tricking android into thinking it is writing to the internal storage.
By the way, no need to do a full wipe when upgrading a ROM. This is only recommend when switching ROMs.
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Not all applications are recomended to install on SD. That cause problem and the phone restart eventually.
What the best 2.3 now on stone?
I'm recently rooted with the paid version of rom manager but I can't get the rom list to update. Does anyone know if the Captivete version is still being supported?
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Very few (if any) roms use rom manager at the moment due to differing cwm recoveries.
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+1 for cappy you cannot find roms through the rom update in the rom manager. very limited.
So do we just hunt and peck thru the dev forum or is there a different repository?
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Sanctus Peregrinus said:
So do we just hunt and peck thru the dev forum or is there a different repository?
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each dev team has the different way to handle its rom, some have their own websites, others may upload the rom into some public sharing servers.
you have to go to the dev threads to search for what you want.
Sanctus Peregrinus said:
So do we just hunt and peck thru the dev forum or is there a different repository?
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In the dev forum search for [ROM] and most of them will all be there.
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So, as a developer, you have to upload your rom to the CWM repository, or add a link to the cwm repository to the rom?
AdamOutler said:
So, as a developer, you have to upload your rom to the CWM repository, or add a link to the cwm repository to the rom?
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That is the just but with the captivate, because our roms use custom recoveries and lag fixes, putting roms onto tom manager is not a viable option
O.K. I really want to understand this. I thought rom manager and clockwork mod recovery were two different functions built into one piece of software. Why is rom management dependent on the specific recovery method you use?
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Rom manager is for the most part a user interface for clock work recovery. To be honest I have stopped using rom manager all together. I just keep the update.zip for clockwork recovery on my sd.
Most if not all roms are now using custom recoveries that understand ext 4 which standard clockwork does not. So if you are on a custom rom, rom manager no longer communicates with the recovery on the rom and is itself for the most part useless
Other phones do not require the lag fix that sgs phones do. We use the lag fix to change the filing from rfs (laggy) to ext 4 (smooth). Rom manager/clockwork recovery do not account for our particular devices. so because of the special circumstances of samsung's decision to use rfs filing, we use custom recovery and lag fixes, which makes our roms not compatible with rom manager
I think.... ;p
mcord11758 said:
Rom manager is for the most part a user interface for clock work recovery. To be honest I have stopped using rom manager all together. I just keep the update.zip for clockwork recovery on my sd.
Most if not all roms are now using custom recoveries that understand ext 4 which standard clockwork does not. So if you are on a custom rom, rom manager no longer communicates with the recovery on the rom and is itself for the most part useless
Other phones do not require the lag fix that sgs phones do. We use the lag fix to change the filing from rfs (laggy) to ext 4 (smooth). Rom manager/clockwork recovery do not account for our particular devices. so because of the special circumstances of samsung's decision to use rfs filing, we use custom recovery and lag fixes, which makes our roms not compatible with rom manager
I think.... ;p
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Well, thank you. This was a nice little informative post on the pros/cons of Rom Manager. I was one of the people that (as a noob) bought this app right off jump assuming by the description that I could actually recover with a backup created with it. Assuming that it made a (ROM) when in fact it does not. I however am also one of the unfortunate that have a JH7 1006-1012 that can't just recover like most. Mine is the dreaded 3 button and follow this long tutorial and download 8 sets of files, use odin ( a specific version) and if I'm lucky, (which I was) I could get back to stock. I have since put behind me the thought of STAYING on stock and am now getting flash happy (like it's crack or something I just can't wait till I run across that happy norm that makes me feel like I need to stay put for a while because of comfort, speed and agility.
+1 thanks to you.
Purchased pro as well for the same reason.
So the "backup" I created with "rom manager" will not restore me to my virgin settings, except for being rooted of course? Is that backup good for anything?
If you flash stock but want to restore your settings and apps, or if you play around on stock and mess something up then restore is useful. If you are on a 2.2 rom and try to restore your stock backup you will run into issues, you could disable lag fix, flash stock kernel and modem then restore, but flashing stock is much easier
Thanks mcord. I see you helping us noobs all over the Q&A section so cheers to you! And a press on your thanks button.
mcord11758 said:
If you flash stock but want to restore your settings and apps, or if you play around on stock and mess something up then restore is useful. If you are on a 2.2 rom and try to restore your stock backup you will run into issues, you could disable lag fix, flash stock kernel and modem then restore, but flashing stock is much easier
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mcord, I have a Canadian Version of the Captivate i896. I am running stock 2.2 Froyo and wanted to flash a ROM but had some questions so I am being careful. I also thought that ClockworkMod would allow me to Backup my current ROM and Restore it if required. Are you saying that this does not work with Froyo?
1. Since no one has created a stock i896 ROM that does not have the AT&T logo how can I backup my Stock ROM?
2. If I flash a custom recovery load a ROM and then want to Load back Stock Froyo from Rogers (Here in Canada) can I do this simply by using any i896 Eclair ROM? Will Kies be ok with a custom recovery?
I bought ROM Manager too, and then found out I didn't need it to either back up or to flash. Kind of a waste, but oh well.
Flashing straight with CWM and backup/restore with TiBu works great.
Hey all so I currently have an unlocked bootloader, rooted Nexus One still running the Stock Froyo 2.2.2. and I decided to finally upgrade to the OTA Gingerbread update but have a problem.
The OTA update restarts my phone with a triangle with an "!" inside it and an Android next to it, so I decided to try a manual update as described here.
Everything went well until the installation itself, during the install I kept getting some sort of error stating Twitter.apk in the system directory could not be authenticated.
So here's the problem, with Titanium Backup I made the stupid mistake of uninstalling it and not backing it up when I first rooted a while ago. I thought I could just reinstall it from the market but I get the same error. The only solution I can think of is if someone running a Nexus One Stock Froyo could possibly send me the Titanium Backup files of Twitter, hopefully this would make it work, otherwise I don't think I could ever update.
Since your bootloader is unlocked, you can use fastboot to install a custom recovery and then flash whatever you want (including a stock image)...
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danger-rat said:
Since your bootloader is unlocked, you can use fastboot to install a custom recovery and then flash whatever you want (including a stock image)...
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Thanks for the response, but I'm having trouble figuring some of this stuff, after spending some time with the search option here in XDA:
1. I don't the difference between custom recovery and flashing an image.
2. I can't find a simple stock Gingerbread image (thought its called ROM?) Details in posts tend to be vague for people that are learning this stuff, like me.
3. Many people have written to use Amron_ra 2.2.1 but I don't know the specifics of each ROM are (ex. if its Froyo based, Gingerbread based, etc.)
4. Would using ROM Manager be a good method to use any ROM or is it limited?
I'm essentially looking for an effective method to upgrading to a clean Gingerbread, since doing it the normal way won't work on my phone (as stated in my first post).
1 - Recovery, bootloader, and 'ROM' are two different partitions on you phone. Once you break security on one, you can use it to break the security on the other. In your case, the security on your bootloader is broken (unlocked), so you can use it to install new software on the other partitions.
2 - See bullet 4 on the first post of this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005591
3 - For recovery you have 2 choices, Amon Ra or Clockwork, If you go with Clockwork, I recommend you stay away from 3.x versions. Unless the ROM you want to install says otherwise, either of these recoveries will work.
4 - ROM Manger will work. It's an easy way to achieve results, but unless you know what you are doing, it's also an easy way to screw things up.
I suggest you take it a step at at a time, and really understand what you are doing. Reading the wiki is always a good start, then ask specific questions...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Nexus_One.png
Thanks Danger, I made the jump to Cyanogen 7, RC-4 via ROM Manager and couldn't be happier! Only problem is the known audio bug for Nexus One (person on other end of a call hears a lot of static sometimes, and have to recall them). The forced apps2sd is by far my most favourite feature, especially since the N1 internal space is pretty horrible, I've moved most of my apps2sd and haven't had any problems thus far.
Thanks for recommending CM7, I just wish their website listed the full features for newbies like me.
Thanks danger-rat http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/...lick-doesnt-work-gingerbread-2.html#post93952
I downgraded my gingerbread to froyo
Was pulling my hair out with a lame guide in the general section
Congrats!!
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Hi all, in a couple of days time I will be receiving my first ever Android device, the Motorola Milestone. I've already done some research on the phone as well as on Android itself, and understood most of the necessary basics. However, there are still many things I don't understand quite yet, and would like some help with clarifying them.
My first question is regarding the custom roms. I myself have been a long time user of Windows Mobile so I know most of the stuff that is relevant to Android as well. From what I know, the bootloader on the Milestone is still locked, but people have found ways to load custom roms on it. Can someone link me to the guide on how to do this? Now before someone tell me to search on the forum or on Google (which I already have), I just want to point out that the ones I found seemed to be outdated, and that they're for older Android versions??
My 2nd question is, do custom roms like IceandFire or Froyomod come with their own custom kernels? Because I want to be able to overclock my phone, and if it comes installed with its own kernel then I don't want to risk bricking it by flashing another kernel on top of it......I hope that makes sense??
3rd question is, which rom is the best for speed and battery? I'm guessing it's IceandFire and it builds upon the latest CM7?
And lastly, are there any crucial apps that you guys recommend I should install, or any tweaks etc I should use?
chaoscreater said:
Hi all, in a couple of days time I will be receiving my first ever Android device, the Motorola Milestone. I've already done some research on the phone as well as on Android itself, and understood most of the necessary basics. However, there are still many things I don't understand quite yet, and would like some help with clarifying them.
My first question is regarding the custom roms. I myself have been a long time user of Windows Mobile so I know most of the stuff that is relevant to Android as well. From what I know, the bootloader on the Milestone is still locked, but people have found ways to load custom roms on it. Can someone link me to the guide on how to do this? Now before someone tell me to search on the forum or on Google (which I already have), I just want to point out that the ones I found seemed to be outdated, and that they're for older Android versions??
My 2nd question is, do custom roms like IceandFire or Froyomod come with their own custom kernels? Because I want to be able to overclock my phone, and if it comes installed with its own kernel then I don't want to risk bricking it by flashing another kernel on top of it......I hope that makes sense??
3rd question is, which rom is the best for speed and battery? I'm guessing it's IceandFire and it builds upon the latest CM7?
And lastly, are there any crucial apps that you guys recommend I should install, or any tweaks etc I should use?
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This is still the best way to get a custom ROM loaded up onto your phone. What you want to start with is flashing the vulnerable recovery from http://android.doshaska.net/rootable by using RSD Lite. To do so, you need to put the phone into Bootloader mode (power+Dpad-up) You can google RSD Lite, make sure you use the latest version along with the latest USB Driver version from Motorola.
RSD Lite is a very finicky program, if you have any errors flashing, your best bet would be to try this post: http://androidforums.com/droid-all-...hing-process-0x7100-rsd-lite.html#post1274587
Once you flash the VR (vulnerable recovery), you will want to put OpenRecovery on your SD Card. I recommend using OR 1.46 and placing FuFu's minimod on the SD Card as well. It will overwrite existing files in OR (look for it in Milestone Development). From here you can root the phone in OR (by using power+x, then camera+volume up) and reboot, backup all data you want saved, before flashing a ROM.
Once that is done, get the custom ROM that you want (I find speed + battery can be Cronos, CM7 or FroyoMOD for a Froyo ROM) and place it in OpenRecovery/updates. You will also want the most up-to-date version of Google Apps for Cronos or any Gingerbread ROM (except MIUI).
Gapps: http://goo-inside.me/gapps/gapps-gb-20110613-signed.zip
Now, turn the phone off, and put it into recovery mode (power+x, then camera+volume up), select apply update.zip and you are now into OpenRecovery.
Here is where you will flash your custom ROM and Gapps. Wipe both cache partition and dalvik cache, then wipe all data. Select Apply Update under Miscellaneous Menu and select the ROM you want. Once it is done, wipe both caches (not data) and flash Gapps. Wipe caches again. Finally, change the baseband to your country and reboot.
The first reboot will take a while, as the ROM is configuring itself for first time use.
That is how to flash a custom ROM and get started.
2- Custom kernels are not available for Milestone, as our bootloader is locked. Overclocking the phone is done through the 10overclock file in system/etc/init.d . All ROMs that I know of are overclock, most to 1GHz (from 550MHz). You will not be able to flash any kernels, and DO NOT try ROM Manager, it will temporarily brick your phone.
Crucial apps, I would say are Root Explorer, TitaniumBackup. Those are the two that are very useful for root users, if you flash multiple ROMs or need to access system files.
Hope this helped.
awesome, thanks for the reply mate!
Hmm 2 things i'm confused with. Isn't there an app called "Milestone Overclock" that lets u overclock without installing custom kernels?
Also, from what I know you need to have the bootloader unlocked in order to install custom roms. I already know that Motorola is still keeping the bootloader locked and that as of now, there isn't a way to unlock it. Then how come we can install custom roms?
Also, since you mentioned ROM Manager, I did a quick search and it seems to be able to manage multiple custom rom installs that you have. But then you said don't try it or it will brick the phone, so I don't understand whether I can install it or not?? Personally, I love testing out different roms as well as new builds. It would be nice to dual boot or choose between different roms to use. But i'm not sure whether I want to go forward with this since your comment implies to me that I shouldn't install Rom Manager?
Lastly, this is the part I found most confusing with Android (or with Windows Mobile as well). I found some guides that tells you to install Clockwork Recovery Mod or something like that. Some of them even mentioned using Nandroid or something. There seems to be different methods & tools/softwares for different devices (or even the same device) and it can be confusing to keep up with them. My question is, are there major differences between them? Which one is better and should I keep them up to date?
chaoscreater said:
awesome, thanks for the reply mate!
Hmm 2 things i'm confused with. Isn't there an app called "Milestone Overclock" that lets u overclock without installing custom kernels?
Also, from what I know you need to have the bootloader unlocked in order to install custom roms. I already know that Motorola is still keeping the bootloader locked and that as of now, there isn't a way to unlock it. Then how come we can install custom roms?
Also, since you mentioned ROM Manager, I did a quick search and it seems to be able to manage multiple custom rom installs that you have. But then you said don't try it or it will brick the phone, so I don't understand whether I can install it or not?? Personally, I love testing out different roms as well as new builds. It would be nice to dual boot or choose between different roms to use. But i'm not sure whether I want to go forward with this since your comment implies to me that I shouldn't install Rom Manager?
Lastly, this is the part I found most confusing with Android (or with Windows Mobile as well). I found some guides that tells you to install Clockwork Recovery Mod or something like that. Some of them even mentioned using Nandroid or something. There seems to be different methods & tools/softwares for different devices (or even the same device) and it can be confusing to keep up with them. My question is, are there major differences between them? Which one is better and should I keep them up to date?
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I have tried Milestone Overclock, but I never really used it to overclock the phone. I prefer changing the voltages and speeds with the 10overclock file. If you read the description of Milestone overclock, it "tricks" the kernel into thinking it's supposed to run at a certain speed.
ROM Manager and Clockwork Recovery Mod do not work on Milestone. The only recovery that works with the Milestone is OpenRecovery or Androidiani OpenRecovery. Unfortunately, the only way to flash the ROMs is through OR or AOR, so you will have to repeat the processes every single time. I have gotten used to where all of the options are for FuFu's Minimod, so I am able to do it quite efficiently
The best way to backup a ROM, system data and the such is by Nandroid backup. That is the only sort of backup that you can do. It is recommended to do one every time you flash a custom ROM, but I only did it after I rooted and before I flashed my first custom ROM. You can do it through OR. That is the only way that will work. CWM and ROM Manager will just temp brick the phone and you will have to reflash a stock SBF all over again.
i see.....in that case there's no way to install 2 different roms to allow dual booting then? What about the app "Boot Manager", will that work? I found it on this site here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ted-user-should-know-about-part-4-apps-26-33/
One last question, I came across this popular app that is recommended by many Android users, called Apps2SD. My understanding to this is that by default, any apps/games that you install on your device will install to the internal memory, and that this Apps2SD app basically lets you install to your memory card? So my question is, does this lag the phone somehow? I like to have many apps and especially games installed on my phone, would doing this affect the performance or something? I know this is the case for Windows Mobile, but not sure about Android.....
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i see.....in that case there's no way to install 2 different roms to allow dual booting then? What about the app "Boot Manager", will that work? I found it on this site here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ted-user-should-know-about-part-4-apps-26-33/
One last question, I came across this popular app that is recommended by many Android users, called Apps2SD. My understanding to this is that by default, any apps/games that you install on your device will install to the internal memory, and that this Apps2SD app basically lets you install to your memory card? So my question is, does this lag the phone somehow? I like to have many apps and especially games installed on my phone, would doing this affect the performance or something? I know this is the case for Windows Mobile, but not sure about Android.....
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I follow AndroidPolice as well. I don't know about Boot Manager, I heard about it, but I haven't heard any reviews of it yet.
Two things when it comes to phone storage and apps on the Milestone: Old hardware makes for a lot of games to not work at all, and low phone storage space.
Almost every ROM comes with apps2ext support, which is a more advanced version of Apps2SD. You can follow this tutorial here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10994672&postcount=226
Apps2ext will trick your phone into thinking space on the SD Card (the ext partition) is actually part of the phone's internal memory. You will be able to get a lot more apps on the phone this way.
Ahh cool, that saves me the trouble of me having to install an extra tweak.
Hmm I know Milestone is old, but not that old is it?? I don't know of any games now days that require heavy hardware specs or anything......i'm just hoping that emulators will work fine on it. I mean, my iPod Touch 3rd Gen only has about 120MB of free RAM, and the CPU is crap as hell and yet I could run GBA games like Pokemon or Golden Sun fine no problem (with sound of course). I'm hoping it'll at least work smoothly on the Milestone since I'll be attempting to overclock it to 1Ghz, which should run it significantly faster in theory.
BTW I found this great tweak for the CM7, here's the link:
http://chromloop.com/2011/07/how-to-make-cyanogenmod-7-for-milestone-a853-lighter-and-faster/
are there any ones similar to this? I'm a tweak junkie addict, I like to make my device run as smooth and as fast as possible. When I still had my HTC Touch Pro and Xperia X1, and even Nokia N900 (which uses Maemo 5), I tweaked the crap out of them and got more juice and power and made its performance so much better. I'm hoping I can at least do the same for the Milestone, except I couldn't seem to find many tweaks...
Oh lastly, I know one of the big problems with Android is fragmentation. There're already some apps out there in the Android market that are exclusive to certain Android versions. The same app has a version for Froyo (v2.2) and Gingerbread (v2.3). This is true for some of the mods or tweaks on XDA. So my question is, are custom roms like CM7 using Gingerbread? I'm guessing yes since it says 2.3.5? In that case, would I be able to simply install the latest mod/tweak or apps/games from XDA or the Android market? Or must I find the versions that is identical to mine?
E.g. if I install CM7, can I still install a mod that is for Froyo?
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Ahh cool, that saves me the trouble of me having to install an extra tweak.
Hmm I know Milestone is old, but not that old is it?? I don't know of any games now days that require heavy hardware specs or anything......i'm just hoping that emulators will work fine on it. I mean, my iPod Touch 3rd Gen only has about 120MB of free RAM, and the CPU is crap as hell and yet I could run GBA games like Pokemon or Golden Sun fine no problem (with sound of course). I'm hoping it'll at least work smoothly on the Milestone since I'll be attempting to overclock it to 1Ghz, which should run it significantly faster in theory.
BTW I found this great tweak for the CM7, here's the link:
http://chromloop.com/2011/07/how-to-make-cyanogenmod-7-for-milestone-a853-lighter-and-faster/
are there any ones similar to this? I'm a tweak junkie addict, I like to make my device run as smooth and as fast as possible. When I still had my HTC Touch Pro and Xperia X1, and even Nokia N900 (which uses Maemo 5), I tweaked the crap out of them and got more juice and power and made its performance so much better. I'm hoping I can at least do the same for the Milestone, except I couldn't seem to find many tweaks...
Oh lastly, I know one of the big problems with Android is fragmentation. There're already some apps out there in the Android market that are exclusive to certain Android versions. The same app has a version for Froyo (v2.2) and Gingerbread (v2.3). This is true for some of the mods or tweaks on XDA. So my question is, are custom roms like CM7 using Gingerbread? I'm guessing yes since it says 2.3.5? In that case, would I be able to simply install the latest mod/tweak or apps/games from XDA or the Android market? Or must I find the versions that is identical to mine?
E.g. if I install CM7, can I still install a mod that is for Froyo?
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Of course you still can. The best tweak for Milestone is under Android Hacking, it's zeppelinrox's supercharger script, which you run through Script Manager. That's the best you can get.
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I thought custom roms like CM7 or IceandFire come with the supercharger script included?
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I thought custom roms like CM7 or IceandFire come with the supercharger script included?
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Some do, such as HO!NO!, but not all of them do.
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Ok so I finally got my Milestone today!
I'm about to start rooting it and install CM7 on it. But before I do that, I have one important question. I know for Windows Mobile, almost all of the device requires you to do a hard reset after flashing a custom rom. I was wondering if the same needs to be applied to Android custom roms? Because it doesn't seem like it, I did a quick Google search and found this:
http://androidforums.com/optimus-v-...4-do-not-factory-reset-your-rooted-phone.html
So ya I'm not sure....
UPDATE:
Ok so I got my Milestone rooted, and installed CM7 on it. I came across a weird problem while doing it though. First of all, I'm using a 8GB Kingston microSD class 2, and it's brand new and hasn't been used before, so it obviously has nothing stored on it as it's empty to begin with. Ok, so as I followed the instructions, the first step is obviously rooting the Milestone, so I simply copied OpenRecovery to the memory card while my Milestone was connected to my PC. The weird thing is, when I opened "My Computer", I didn't see my memory card. Instead, I see "Milestone", so I opened it and then I see my memory card "Removeable Storage". I opened it again and here's the actual weird part, there're 2 files stored in it, called:
DevIcon
DevLogo
At first, I didn't think it was a problem because I thought they were just some dummy file or something. Also, the memory card is empty other than those 2 files. So after copying OpenRecovery to it and rooting it successfully, I then proceed to copy the CM7 custom rom file to the memory card. But this time, I still see the same thing. I don't see my OpenRecovery folder on it at all, there're no other files other than those 2 files on it. I tried Unmount and Mount in the SD Card settings, also unplugging my USB cable and re-plugging back in but it's the same. In fact, after 'Unmounting' the memory card, I couldn't even access it on "My Computer", as nothing shows up after I open "Milestone". Only 'Mounting' works, but again I only see those 2 files and nothing else.
HOWEVER, I then tried to take out the memory card and use my own microSD card reader, and bam I can see all the files on it, such as OpenRecovery and even the nanDroid backup that I made while following the instructions on that guide. So this is weird, why can't I access or see the contents on my memory card while the phone is connected to the PC??
I don't wanna create another topic for this since it's unnecessary, so here's my final question. In case something goes wrong in the future, what's the best way for me to revert back to stock?
I know I can use nandroid for this, but here's what i'm confused about. Nandroid makes a backup of the complete system, including the settings and apps installed correct? But what if you flash a custom rom, and then use a nandroid backup of the stock rom, will that still work? Or would you have to install the stock rom first for you to be able to use the nandroid backup?
Lastly, if the nandroid backup works regardless of whether you're using a different rom than the rom that the nandroid backup was made, then which option is better:
use nandroid to revert to stock, or using this guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11902513&postcount=7
Now I understand that for Milestone, custom roms are not actually flashed since the bootloader is locked. So would using nandroid be good enough?
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I don't wanna create another topic for this since it's unnecessary, so here's my final question. In case something goes wrong in the future, what's the best way for me to revert back to stock?
I know I can use nandroid for this, but here's what i'm confused about. Nandroid makes a backup of the complete system, including the settings and apps installed correct? But what if you flash a custom rom, and then use a nandroid backup of the stock rom, will that still work? Or would you have to install the stock rom first for you to be able to use the nandroid backup?
Lastly, if the nandroid backup works regardless of whether you're using a different rom than the rom that the nandroid backup was made, then which option is better:
use nandroid to revert to stock, or using this guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11902513&postcount=7
Now I understand that for Milestone, custom roms are not actually flashed since the bootloader is locked. So would using nandroid be good enough?
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The best way to revert to stock will be to flash an sbf for your region that will wipe everything. They have those sbf's on and-developers.
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Ahh I see, so in what situations will we be using nandroid to restore from the backup?
Also, the SBF file i'm using is from the guide that you linked me in your 2nd post. I'm using the EUROPE one because apparently it covers most of the countries around Europe, which includes New Zealand (where I live). I've had no problems with it, but just then I checked out the AND-Developers site like you suggested, and found this here:
http://and-developers.com/sbf:milestone221
It doesn't seem to have New Zealand but it does have Australia, which is like a neighbour to us. Will it be better if I flash the SBF to that instead?
Also, will flashing a SBF change the radio? Or does only changing the baseband change the radio? Because i'm getting weak signals from 2G/3G sometimes, and my Wifi has problems sometimes not being able to connect properly. Either that, or it shows that i'm connected but i'm not getting any data, apparently a lot of people have problems like this after I did some searching around.
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Ahh I see, so in what situations will we be using nandroid to restore from the backup?
Also, the SBF file i'm using is from the guide that you linked me in your 2nd post. I'm using the EUROPE one because apparently it covers most of the countries around Europe, which includes New Zealand (where I live). I've had no problems with it, but just then I checked out the AND-Developers site like you suggested, and found this here:
http://and-developers.com/sbf:milestone221
It doesn't seem to have New Zealand but it does have Australia, which is like a neighbour to us. Will it be better if I flash the SBF to that instead?
Also, will flashing a SBF change the radio? Or does only changing the baseband change the radio? Because i'm getting weak signals from 2G/3G sometimes, and my Wifi has problems sometimes not being able to connect properly. Either that, or it shows that i'm connected but i'm not getting any data, apparently a lot of people have problems like this after I did some searching around.
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1. when you're phone will not start anymore, it's good to have one before every new flash cause you never now what's gonna happen.
2. funny thing is i know where New Zealand is (not near Europe) . about the baseband ... yes every sbf has the region specific baseband 's (you cant flash a radio only change baseband 's).
baseband can be found on dexter's (http://dext3r.komodin.org/) page but they are already included in OR (not sure about fufu's). i can't be very precise because i don't remember.
custom rom's don't think they change baseband 's, (the .zip ones)
Ya ur right, NZ is not anywhere near Europe lol
but I did do some research on which SBF I needed before I flashed it, and I found out that the Europe SBF works for NZ as well, it was mentioned somewhere I can't remember.
About the baseband, I'm still a little bit confused. First off, I already know that you can change the baseband under OpenRecovery. The thing is, there are no options to change the baseband to New Zealand, so which one should I pick? Also, here's the part I'm confused about. You said that the baseband are region specific, and yet we can choose the baseband we want in OpenRecovery.
So since I flashed the SBF for Europe, what will happen if I then change the baseband to say Argentina (one of the options under OpenRecovery)? Will it crash or something?? I don't even know what baseband i'm using right now, I haven't changed anything, I only flashed the SBF for Europe and that's it. I can still go online using 2G/3G and txt no problem, but I'm just not sure if the baseband i'm using is suppose to be correct for New Zealand or not...
BTW just another side question (sorry I'm really new to the Android scene!):
I've found a few custom roms that doesn't use the current kernel we have for Milestone. As far as I know, the bootloader for Milestone is locked, therefore we can't properly flash a custom rom onto it, as well as replacing the kernel as well. So what I'm confused with is, if some of these custom roms don't use the current kernel on the system, then how does it work? Does it use its own kernel, and if so then shouldn't that replace the system's own kernel before it can be used??
Here's one of the custom rom topic where I read from, in case ur wondering:
This is the Froyo FRG22 image for our Milestone. but as this is not using the kernel, there are some limit to functions based on kernel requirement. But its close, and works great and is alot faster.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734802
The same goes for the custom roms. I don't understand how they can run on Milestone even though it's not properly flashed. Like some others have mentioned, the so-called "custom roms" that we have now are just a layer of image or skin on top of the stock rom. The weird thing is, it runs faster and most of the pre-installed stock apps that came with the stock rom are removed, thus giving us more space for internal storage. But how does this work if the custom roms haven't actually flashed onto our phone? Or did it overwrite/modify the files on the stock rom? If so, then isn't that just flashing onto the phone then?
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About the baseband
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changing baseband's that are not supported by your network op will lead to no signal whatsoever.. i don't remember if there is a problem with only data. try other baseband, in theory it will not crash anything, so do a nandroid backup before
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734802
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that is an old post from "25th July 2010, 05:52 AM" moto started to leak kernel from January 2011 give or take a month, so back then froyo was used with the eclair kernel. kernel from milestone was never changed to other than moto signed, only modules loaded at an early stage, thanks to kabaldan/nadlabak and other if exists
custom roms =
moto kernel
kernel modules (this helps on overclock , app2ext ... others)
mods to system files, apps
hope you understand cause i don't know if i make it clear at the end of the post
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The same goes for the custom roms. I don't understand how they can run on Milestone even though it's not properly flashed. Like some others have mentioned, the so-called "custom roms" that we have now are just a layer of image or skin on top of the stock rom. The weird thing is, it runs faster and most of the pre-installed stock apps that came with the stock rom are removed, thus giving us more space for internal storage. But how does this work if the custom roms haven't actually flashed onto our phone? Or did it overwrite/modify the files on the stock rom? If so, then isn't that just flashing onto the phone then?
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i doesn't make any sense, you will end up with no memory , only kernel remains, other things gets rewritten.
Code:
http://www.vodafone.co.nz/roaming/welcome-to-nz.jsp
this get out of what i know. with the frequencies,
basebands/frequency i have 900/1800
for data check if there is a problem with your apn settings
I see, thanks for your thorough explanation
Ya I know that changing my baseband will probably give me better signals, but I'm asking which one is best for Vodafone NZ because there isn't a baseband for New Zealand.
For the data part, were you talking about my wifi problem, and suggesting I check the APN settings? Don't worry that's been solved already. I flashed to the New Zealand v2.1 SBF and now it's working very stable. But like I said, after flashing to that I now have problems with connecting to my operator whenever I switch to 2G. However, 3G works fine so there's no problem with that.
BTW, I have another problem. After flashing to the New Zealand v2.1 SBF, I couldn't access my OpenRecovery anymore. I didn't delete or change any files on my memory card, so if I could access OpenRecovery and root my device as well as flash a custom rom when I was still on Froyo, then why can't I do it again when I flash to Eclair?
I *think* I know the reason, is it because it patched the vulnerable recovery or something? I think this is what I need to do to fix this:
http://android.doshaska.net/rootable
I haven't done it yet coz i'm busy these days, but i just need a confirmation so I know that it is indeed the case.
I *think* I know the reason, is it because it patched the vulnerable recovery or something? I think this is what I need to do to fix this:
http://android.doshaska.net/rootable
I haven't done it yet coz i'm busy these days, but i just need a confirmatio
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true story . it should say something about eocd marker and fail.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698059
For the data part, were you talking about my wifi problem, and suggesting I check the APN settings?
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sorry... i don't know, last night i thought i read something else, about working 3g and 2g not ..must be the skittles... to much rainbow
i suggest finding out what country baseband are similar to New Zealand and flash/apply that one )