hey all, question here. I have noticed this in the last few roms, not sure if this happens in stock, but i have been running cognition, currently 3.04 ( before that 3.02, 3.0 and 2.3b6), Occasionally I notice that after the phone comes out of sleep I see the clock go from example 1:30 to 3:30 or something like that. IS that a bug in cognition? or does the clock occasionally turn off when in sleep mode, and the reason for the lag sometimes be the phone cpu usage is doing some thing when i come out of sleep causing the jump to current time? or whats the reasoning behind this?
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hey all, question here. I have noticed this in the last few roms, not sure if this happens in stock, but i have been running cognition, currently 3.04 ( before that 3.02, 3.0 and 2.3b6), Occasionally I notice that after the phone comes out of sleep I see the clock go from example 1:30 to 3:30 or something like that. IS that a bug in cognition? or does the clock occasionally turn off when in sleep mode, and the reason for the lag sometimes be the phone cpu usage is doing some thing when i come out of sleep causing the jump to current time? or whats the reasoning behind this?
thanks.
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When the device goes to standby, all the widgets and screen updating apps are put to sleep to save battery. When u turn on screen, all these are refreshed. This is normal.
alright. Just curious, how come sometimes i see the clock go super speed to catch up, and other times it at the correct time? ( I usually dont see it, Ive only seen it maybe 5 times past month)
JJ133169 said:
alright. Just curious, how come sometimes i see the clock go super speed to catch up, and other times it at the correct time? ( I usually dont see it, Ive only seen it maybe 5 times past month)
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No clue. Didn't go into so deep architecture I shall see if I can find out how it works internally when I get some time.
Thanks. Anyone else feel free to answer as well.
I am looking forward to your research. I am a techy as well, and not knowing why somethings happen and dont happen when it comes to things like this bug the heck out of me.
JJ133169 said:
Thanks. Anyone else feel free to answer as well.
I am looking forward to your research. I am a techy as well, and not knowing why somethings happen and dont happen when it comes to things like this bug the heck out of me.
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As a more visible and more frequent occurrence, load a time app onto ur home screen. You can see it get updated when u turn the screen on frequently.
I think its more dependent on how many apps/widgets need to be updated when u turn ur screen on. I hardly have any on my screen so its a rare case I see the time update.
ok, so let me get this right, your saying it probably happens more often when i haven't used my phone in a while, because lets say I have things that update every four hours, and if the phones in sleep, and they haven't updated, they all could possibly be updating when i come out of sleep because there over due, thus sometimes causing the system clock to jump?
Any one else know anything ?
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lets say I have things that update every four hours, and if the phones in sleep, and they haven't updated, they all could possibly be updating when i come out of sleep because there over due, thus sometimes causing the system clock to jump?
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All that u set for 4 hours to update, get updated but in the 'background'. The 'display' part of them is not updated, and is 'refreshed' when screen turns on.
Hey, anyone else got any theories or updates?
I'm using ultimate Rom, newest version as of a couple of days ago.
Just noticed this about 3 times in half an hour or less.
Interested in learning why I will see my clock jump from like 2:13 - 2:17 instantly at times when I come out of sleep...
a google search using different words found this :
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...ec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars&id=9524
Are there any devs here that could explain or potentially fix this issue ?
Reading all that worried me, thinking hey, maybe my alarm clock isn't reliable either...
I had this issue when I was running 2.1 stock. I haven't had the issue since flashing 2.2 (have used both cog 3.02 and andromeda 2.0).
Your link also seems specific to 2.1, and I believe is a known issue coming out of 'deep' sleep. I had some luck with app called 'load monitor'. It's free and has a setting I think is called prevent suspend that doesn't allow phone to go into deep sleep.
Not sure if re-flash might help since what you describe shouldn't happen running 2.2
i897 running Andromeda 2.0
Okay. But what are the chances of me repeatingly getting bad flashes? Ive been on cog 2.3b6, 3.0 , 3.02, 3.04 snd now ultimate rom. Sometimes i wont see it happen for weeks. Other times ital happen a few times in 30 mns.
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Oh and reading through that link you see tons on 2.2 have that issue, not just 2.1
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Yeah not sure. Really thought was general 2.1 issue, not just on captivate.
Try load monitor. I forget the setting there, but it'll prevent deep sleep. That or you could try app 'no led' and send yourself an email before going to bed (when active notification that app prevents deep sleep too).
Sorry those are lame options that'll affect you battery life to some degree. Perhaps there are better options posted here but you'll have to dig for it.
i897 running Andromeda 2.0
I'm assuming a ton of people have it but dont pay much attention to it expecially that it comes and goes in seconds.
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Stil no fixes?
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I've been on some or other version of the ROM I have in my signature, and never observed a clock lag so far. Maybe u cud try this ROM once. By the way, I am on xcal's kernel, and not the kernel supplied in this ROM.
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my nexus one is charging on a regular basis around 106-7 F. I know there is another thread about this issue but the question was not resolved. So does anyone have experience with this issue. Is it a defect or dangerous? I have OSmonitor installed, this si where I am reading my temps. I also notice the CPU usage is pegged around 98-99%..is this normal?
I heard using setCPU with a charging profile can solve this problem if you have root?
No, it is not normal for the cpu to be maxed out while charging. Are you using the car dock or a wall charger?
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mine does the same thing all the time its not going to damage your phone at all
my phone has got about 120 F on car doc
my phone is perfect just set your set cpu for fail safe and your all good
You probably could use SetCPU to solve this problem, but the fact that your CPU usage is so high in the first place means there is something going wrong - my guess would be a rogue app.
Try downloading a task killer from the Market. Kill each app running one at a time then check your CPU usage. You'll soon find the culprit.
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my phone has got about 120 F on car doc
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Yeah I'm starting to see the problem with the phone having a metal casing. Not good when it's summer and you have to place it under direct sunlight for extended amounts of time, while using navigation AND charging
That thing can get burning hot alright.
Are you using froyo 2.2?
I have had the same problem; I also have random periods of high cpu use when not charging as well. This issue is not caused by problem apps either. I must reboot to fix the issue, sometimes I must reboot several times until the cpu load is back to normal.
I am not sure it is a bug or a hardware fault. Maybe a quick call to HTC and/or google is in order.
I will also try to reapply the 2.2 update.
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I am not sure it is a bug or a hardware fault. Maybe a quick call to HTC and/or google is in order.
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Been there, done that. I opened a thread asking other users about the problem, and even mailed HTC's support. In the end I decided to try flashing the stock 2.1 rom again to see if the problem persisted, and it didn't.
I'm pretty sure it's not a hardware problem, but you might want to install eclair too and see if it works for you.
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Been there, done that. I opened a thread asking other users about the problem, and even mailed HTC's support. In the end I decided to try flashing the stock 2.1 rom again to see if the problem persisted, and it didn't.
I'm pretty sure it's not a hardware problem, but you might want to install eclair too and see if it works for you.
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I bet your heat issues are related to cpu loads or staying at high frequencies like mine. Sometimes the phone does not feel like it is really running as hard as the system monitors say, though it may still get hot.
Where can I find the older ROM? I thought the bootloader would not allow going to older ROMs, or maybe I am mistaken.
I am re-flashing the leaked 2.2 update to make sure there was no issue with the original install. I am also using the copy my GF downloaded when I sent her the instructions on the off chance that my download was corrupted in some small way; unlikely but hey. I do think that the original flash may have gone wrong, as mine hung and never rebooted after the flash was complete; I had to manually reboot. Lets hope this fixes it.
This issue may be more widespread than we realize, as many people do not actively monitor their cpu or notice/worry about the heat after charging. I do believe that these leaked ROMs send debug data to google, I remember reading something along those lines; these are internal test ROMs after all. Maybe this is a reason that 2.2 is not out yet, this and other bugs found during real world use.
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Where can I find the older ROM? I thought the bootloader would not allow going to older ROMs, or maybe I am mistaken.
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What I did was follow this guide up to the point where you have a stock eclair rom, then not upgrade to Froyo. Keep using that for some time, see whether the phone gets hot or not, THEN (if you want) move back to Froyo.
I am using the wall charger hat came with the nexus one. I am also running Froyo 2.2... can I set a CPU fail safe without my phone being rooted? Also what is a quick to check if my phone is rooted? I just bought this Nexus One from someone. I know on my G1 it was rooted bc I had Superuser permissions.
Using OSmonitor I can sort the processes by their CPU load and the one process that always has the highest load is " /init" which always has around 85-96% of the load. You can also kill these processes directly inside of OSmonitor and I have tried killing " /init" to no avail.
The fastest way I can think would be installing Lamppu, then trying to use it to light up the camera flash. If it works your phone is flashed, if it doesn't it's not.
As for your other questions... sorry, i don't know. I hope someone else can help you.
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Using OSmonitor I can sort the processes by their CPU load and the one process that always has the highest load is " /init" which always has around 85-96% of the load. You can also kill these processes directly inside of OSmonitor and I have tried killing " /init" to no avail.
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Thats a system process so you can not kill it.
Going to test my GFs nexus and see if she has these issues as well.
I restored my N1 to the factory image, the updated back through each update to 2.2; so far so good. My GF's N1 has been running fine since I really started watching it, so I figured it would hurt to try to restore and redo the update.
No 100% cpu load during charging any more!
i am using the Motorola charger and my phone is not getting hot at all. with the charger that comes in the box for the N1 it seems to heat up.
Still had the CPU load get stuck at 100% today; though charging is not forcing 100% loads any more.
By the way, how do you measure how busy the processor is? How do you know that it's at 100%?
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By the way, how do you measure how busy the processor is? How do you know that it's at 100%?
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System monitor apps, some will even put a little icon in the notification tray that shows current cpu load.
Is it me, or did froyo fix the "crazy screen" bug? I also noticed that my phone doesn't get as hot when it's been charging on my car dock.
I'm running FRF50 since it was released. The screen issue is long gone. I use to have it a couple of times a day. I sometimes get it but that's once a week.
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I'm running FRF50 since it was released. The screen issue is long gone. I use to have it a couple of times a day. I sometimes get it but that's once a week.
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This, and I'm on FRF85B
Gotta be the best part of froyo for me, crazy screen bug fix, flash player, Jit compiler.
Which crazy thing happening are you guys screaming about? Are you talking about when the touchscreen would begin to register touches in the wrong place until the screen is turned off and on again?
Yeah that's what they are talking about. But the bad news is this problem still exists. I've had it happen many times on froyo. It's not gone at all.
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Yeah that's what they are talking about. But the bad news is this problem still exists. I've had it happen many times on froyo. It's not gone at all.
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Funny thing is that I had those issues on an AT&T-banded phone and they have gone way downhill since Froyo.
I find the granularity/preciseness of the screen better, and more responsive when, for example, you are dragging left-to-right and you start dragging up-down. However, I only do this in the browser so it could be down to better browser performance and/or JIT?
Still have screen uncalibration issues but seem to be better in 85 than 72
Does indeed seem to be a thing of the past, and on a similar note, it's improved the capacitive button accuracy as well.
Good that they've done it, but now I keep hitting them in the wrong place.
I'm using FRF91. Crazy screen bug happens with me twice a day. I don't know what I do to go away, but after a few minutes it stops by itself.
Ok I have been noticed a new problem for the past few days where the screen did not response at all when I turned on the phone. I cannot slide the unlock bar to unlock it. I had to turn it off and on again for one or two times to make the screen response again. Anyone else having this same problem?
Crazy screen occurrence definitely reduced.. however, it still happens when phone heats up significantly.. say, on a dash board while navigating. It's most definitely heat-related... so it must be hardware =(
I'm running Geo's FRG83 and I get it quite a bit when using Skype. I've seen this problem from the beginning and haven't seen a reduction in this issue with later versions of Android. It is the only problem I have with Android/N1.
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I'm running Geo's FRG83 and I get it quite a bit when using Skype. I've seen this problem from the beginning and haven't seen a reduction in this issue with later versions of Android. It is the only problem I have with Android/N1.
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I've had the N1 since day one and never had this bug. But I don't use Skype...
my touch screen was crazy when I get my phone out of my pants. I did not touch the screen but it still automatically run the app and drag the taskbar up and down .........
nobody is like me???
care to share more details and/or what ROm you're running? 2.2?
it happened randomly to me too, with any rom 2.1 2.2, but I still didn't figure the reason out yet..
Same for me.I have cronos 1.6.1 on phone with adw launcher.But happens only ones or twice.
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You guys probably overclocked it too much damaging the touchscreen.
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You guys probably overclocked it too much damaging the touchscreen.
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this makes no sense mate. The overclock affects the cpu and not the touch screen. Anyway I didn't use any extreme overclock, beside using for a while the Telus Lite with 1.1ghz oc stock. And well I barely played any game, just a lot of emails and surfing on the web, very few calls. I noticed it happens when i move too much, like dancing or when i leave it on the shelf for the night and by the morning it acts crazy
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this makes no sense mate. The overclock affects the cpu and not the touch screen. Anyway I didn't use any extreme overclock, beside using for a while the Telus Lite with 1.1ghz oc stock. And well I barely played any game, just a lot of emails and surfing on the web, very few calls. I noticed it happens when i move too much, like dancing or when i leave it on the shelf for the night and by the morning it acts crazy
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I used to have that issue with stock 2.1 roms.
CM6, Sense mod, fastest Eclare and now MIUI does not bring that night mare back to me.
Also, if you charge using a 2-pin socket [the one without the earthed pin, popular in Asia], it'll show up.
OP needs to be a little more clear, but let me say my results.
Ever since flashing 2.2.1 SBF and then applying a few Froyo Mods and even goign back to ECLAIR,
I noticed that multitouch screws up. Sometimes it things I have a finger on the screen already, so by putting a finger on, it does a pinch zoom on me even though I only have 1 finger on it. Then sometimes it doesn't let me press an icon on my screen insisting my finger is elsewhere. Other times the notification bar starts getting pulled down randomly.
Perhaps Kadalban can explain his Multitouch fix, but for me it seemed to solve a lot of issues. Granted it was only pushed out in CM6 12/4/2010, which gives me 1 day to test so far, but some of those freak-incidents have been disappearing. You'd have to give me 3-5 days to conclude anything, but for now it seems to have done the trick.
i have issue with eclair 3b and CM6....it crazy when i I get my phone out of my pants....
is it FW error or HW error? in my country, in my country there are many like me.and we do not have a solution for this problem rather than the touch screen
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duytrum444 said:
i have issue with eclair 3b and CM6....it crazy when i I get my phone out of my pants....
is it FW error or HW error? in my country, in my country there are many like me.and we do not have a solution for this problem rather than the touch screen
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Update to the new CM6. 12.04.2010 solves it for me.
i'm using it....and now,i don't have issue again. i testing it.
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how did you fix your screen.my homebutton does not respond
I just changed to some mod roms and the problem disappeared for me.
Some of my friends got really big issue with the touch panel and when they came to Motorola service point, the technicians said there is a known issue with the panel they used but not all customers are affected (hence some people are OK after trying different roms).
So if one experiences it then just needs to go to Moto and they'll change to a healthy-guaranteed panel obviously, if you're still under warranty, it's free!
Sup,
I experience lag frequently. A lot of times I can feel something in the phone spinning or vibrating as it comes out of the lag. the vibration isn't as rigorous as the notification vibrations. Also sometimes it will lag but not come out of it and completely freeze then restart itself. The freeze/restart seems to happen when surfing the web.
I'm running serendipity 7 build 2. Its happened on serendipity 6.x also. Not sure if its rom related or just my phone failing. Anyone experience this?
I should add that I have 9.31gb available out of 13 total.
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I've had similar lag and reboot issues on Serendipity 7 don't know why, but you can always just try another ROM and see if the problem persists.
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Sup,
I experience lag frequently. A lot of times I can feel something in the phone spinning or vibrating as it comes out of the lag. the vibration isn't as rigorous as the notification vibrations. Also sometimes it will lag but not come out of it and completely freeze then restart itself. The freeze/restart seems to happen when surfing the web.
I'm running serendipity 7 build 2. Its happened on serendipity 6.x also. Not sure if its rom related or just my phone failing. Anyone experience this?
I should add that I have 9.31gb available out of 13 total.
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A couple things that come to mind, one is the vibrating sounds like something is F/C'ing. Take a look at your applications, what is running, do you know what you're trying to run when it vibrates? Also take a look at your system resources, I get lag if I have too many items running and system mem gets too low
"Most" issues tend to be software related so that is where I would focus my attention. If all else fails, reinstall your ROM
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A couple things that come to mind, one is the vibrating sounds like something is F/C'ing. Take a look at your applications, what is running, do you know what you're trying to run when it vibrates? Also take a look at your system resources, I get lag if I have too many items running and system mem gets too low
"Most" issues tend to be software related so that is where I would focus my attention. If all else fails, reinstall your ROM
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It happens the most when I am browsing the web. I have been using xscope for a long time. First the free version and now pro version since it was faotd on amazon. It happened with both versions. although xscope could be the problem its not the only culprit cuz it happens when im not browsing the web also. Maybe I should install logcat and check it out after the next time it happens...?
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I noticed today that it would sometimes vibrate when exciting out the gallery with the back button. I was a couple folders deep and hit back like 3 times so its like it got over-loaded or something but didn't fc.
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Lag & auto shut down
My captivate with serendipity 7 initially seemed perfect. But after a couple of weeks of usage, it started becoming slow. I face quite a bit of lag, automatic shutdowns and poor battery. I do have a few apps running in the background, but there was no lag when i was using cognition 4 or CM7. When my phone shuts down automatically, I have to take the battery out and put it back in to restart it. Holding just the power button doesn't switch it on.
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My captivate with serendipity 7 initially seemed perfect. But after a couple of weeks of usage, it started becoming slow. I face quite a bit of lag, automatic shutdowns and poor battery. I do have a few apps running in the background, but there was no lag when i was using cognition 4 or CM7. When my phone shuts down automatically, I have to take the battery out and put it back in to restart it. Holding just the power button doesn't switch it on.
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That would be SOD(sleep of death) where it is in too deep of sleep and can't wake up, were you UV?
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ramahari said:
My captivate with serendipity 7 initially seemed perfect. But after a couple of weeks of usage, it started becoming slow. I face quite a bit of lag, automatic shutdowns and poor battery. I do have a few apps running in the background, but there was no lag when i was using cognition 4 or CM7. When my phone shuts down automatically, I have to take the battery out and put it back in to restart it. Holding just the power button doesn't switch it on.
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Not to be an ass but you sorta jacked my topic. I'm not experiencing sleep of death. My problem has to do with the phone freezing then restarting itself.
Just don't want more posts further veering of course and hindering a solution for me. Thanks.
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Just an update...
I haven't had any freeze+ restarts since my first post. Still some occasional lag but not nearly
as much or as bad as it was.
Funny thing is I havent changed anything.
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I'm seeing lag on the phone under a specific set of conditions and wondered if anyone else was seeing this. If the phone has been asleep for more than about 20 minutes, after I wake the phone the first app that I launch, irrespective of what the app is, lags for about 2 seconds before opening. Any less than about 20 minutes sleep time and the problem doesn't appear.
After the initial lag opening the first app everything works fine until the phone has been asleep again for more than around 20 minutes. Then the same thing again..... the first app that I open lags for about 2 seconds before opening.
The problem was happening with the standard kernel, KKA. I've since rooted and flashed AbyssNote 2.3 but kept the standard rom and the problem is still there. Anyone have an clues what might be causing this?
Remember that when the CPU comes from a deep sleep it's running <50Mhz. So as soon as the phone wakes it needs to speed up again. That's it's only the first App. By then the cpu is running >800Mhz.
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Two seconds for CPU waking up? It's 21th century.
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Two seconds for CPU waking up? It's 21th century.
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I totally agree but it's not the dreaded wake up lag that I'm referring to. I really thought Samsung would have dealt with that by now, but to their discredit they haven't either on the SGS2 or the Note.
People who justify the wake up lag by saying the phone has been in deep sleep are clutching at straws. HTC phones deep sleep and don't have wake up lag. This is a Samsung issue and it should have been dealt with by now on phones of the caliber of the SGS2 and the Note.
The lag I'm referring to is after the phone is awake and I launch the first app. There is a lag of about 2 seconds before the app launches, irrespective of what actual app it is the I'm launching.
After that, all is good until the next time I use the phone.
Tried to change microSD card, or trying to use phone without it? Seems like card problem.
I don't have this lag issue on my note. I use abyssnote kernel with interactive CPU governor.
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Tried to change microSD card, or trying to use phone without it? Seems like card problem.
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Thanks for the suggestion but the microSD card is not causing the problem. I removed the card and the problem still exists.
I get this lag too guys, sometimes longer than 2 seconds. Very annoying. Also you have to wait ages for the app list to appear when creating shortcuts for homescreen. This happens after the phone has been on for a while after a reset. Its fast from a fresh reboot. This does not happen on the S2.
General responsivness of the phone goes downwards as time and days pass. This does not happen with the S2. Have to reboot every two days pretty much to get the snappiness back as clearing memory via task manager does not solve this.
I'm Using Checkrom with Abyssnote Kernal. Happens with FM Kernal too, so I don't think its kernal related. Don't remember this happening on stock firmware.