I don't think I"m the only one looking for this, but I"m sure it will happen at some point, till then I have DL09.
Cheers all!
Crap, wrong thread... I should have put this in Development?
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Also they don't need a request for every thing just give some timeeeeeeeee patience is a virtue
jt is working on it
this is kinda ridiculous...might as well go for broke:
i request gingerbread with a 9000mhz voodoo45 kernel that runs on solar power
lmao nitsuj17
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this is kinda ridiculous...might as well go for broke:
i request gingerbread with a 9000mhz voodoo45 kernel that runs on solar power
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Well, then want it themed by nitsuj17...cause he is the bomb.
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this is kinda ridiculous...might as well go for broke:
i request gingerbread with a 9000mhz voodoo45 kernel that runs on solar power
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I'll have it to you yesterday
imnuts said:
I'll have it to you yesterday
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we can always count on you
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this is kinda ridiculous...might as well go for broke:
i request gingerbread with a 9000mhz voodoo45 kernel that runs on solar power
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Pssst, whatever, if we're going for broke, then I'm gonna be pissed if JT doesn't have a Honeycomb Superclean ROM, Voodoo OC'd to 1500 with solar and moonlight powered, so I don't even need a battery, ready by tomorrow..... I mean, come on, they've had the Honeycomb SDK for what, like 4 days now.......
Wasn't trying to upset people, if I could have deleted I would have....
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DarthCivicus said:
Wasn't trying to upset people, if I could have deleted I would have....
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It's not just you though...
How would voodoo be ported to DL30? I am just curious on what differences there are? is it just the libs that would need to be changed or what? I am not trying to request it or anything, I am actually just curious. I know the devs will release it when they feel it is good to go to the masses.
Where's the setting to print money?
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Where's the setting to print money?
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Mine builds me an island and then turns into a jet and f***ing flies me there.
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Wasn't trying to upset people, if I could have deleted I would have....
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The only problem is that waaay too many people are requesting EVERYTHING although its only been a few days since 2.2 was leaked/released. Hell one person was asking about Android 3.0.
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The only problem is that waaay too many people are requesting EVERYTHING although its only been a few days since 2.2 was leaked/released. Hell one person was asking about Android 3.0.
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requests, usually, are fine...the issue is when something new comes out...everyone wants the exact theme, enhancements, mods, etc they had on their previous setup...this simply isnt possible overnight or even really soon.
relative to other devices, the fascinate has a smaller amount of people that work on it some capacity...dev wise we have 5-6 people that build roms/kernels and look at what theyve put out already in a few short days.
theme wise we dont have the bgills, jsinlegacys, etc of the android world that truly know frameworks/apks inside out...its mostly a few of us that have a relatively good idea of what we're doing porting themes, and making some of our own (well alternate gb versions or something lol)...if i wanted to for example, i could prolly just do quick and messy ports of the frameworks of every theme ive done before in 2 days or something...but i tend to go beyond that with apps and such like others do here
so on my end at least (and i think i can speak for a few others) stuff will come out when its ready...now i understand that themes vacated by people no longer around like retrokid cause some anxiety as it seems no one is working on them...but if theyre popular enough people pick them up (i took on revolution)...so give it a few weeks guys
Is a voodoo port even possible on the .32 kernel before samsung releases the source? Since we only have a leak I imagine it will be a bit before official release of the .32 source for the fascinate. I'm loving DL30 so far but definitely notice some of the lag now that voodoo is gone. But as nitsuj17 said this should be expected anytime you upgrade to a new release. Gotta give our excellent devs some time to port.
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Is a voodoo port even possible on the .32 kernel before samsung releases the source? Since we only have a leak I imagine it will be a bit before official release of the .32 source for the fascinate. I'm loving DL30 so far but definitely notice some of the lag now that voodoo is gone. But as nitsuj17 said this should be expected anytime you upgrade to a new release. Gotta give our excellent devs some time to port.
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jt is working on voodoo from what i gather...i wouldnt put it past him to get it to work...its apparently one of the few things *possible* is still really hard to do...without source
It's been discussed before. You can use a binary kernel to build a custom version using config.gz, provided it was included with the kernel build. Without that, it would be almost impossible.
Ultimately, having the source directly from Samsung is the best way to get a custom kernel.
I really can't wait for some of the 2.3 kernel stuff to start trickling down, since it has ext4 built-in natively. Then we won't need voodoo, it will just be that way already.
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I thought that this should get its own thread. In light of recent events, i am now trying to try to port froyo to the dinc. If anyone is interested...well notify me
YES! Most Def.
I already have one person on my waiting list, so i take it that u want to be on my list, too?
Can you add sense to it...? Of course with the option to run it when you want
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Can you add sense to it...? Of course with the option to run it when you want
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I agree 100%, nothing against the N1, but I would have gotten one if I liked the UI--I had enough of it on the G1, I'm glad to have a very fast sense and would like to keep it with 2.2!
I for one dislike sense. I prefer the stock vanilla ui, but if i can port sense to froyo than i wont hesitate in doing so
si senior.
vanillia Froyo all the way!!
Of course, sense with an official release of Froyo
I think this is a no brainer, most if not all want froyo
I like sense, but I would take it either way
A de-sensed froyo would be great. Even a de-sensed 2.1 would be nice. I really like the vanilla android
i'm definitely interested in some froyo action on my inc
If not full Froyo, at least its version of the gmail app to replace the stock one on the INC...
Vanilla android is awesome. I miss it after coming from the droid.
I've been waiting for froyo since the day I got this phone! So yes, count me in for wanting it!
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I think this is a no brainer, most if not all want froyo ...
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I agree, which is why I don't completely understand why it needs it's own thread and why it's in the development section instead of general (since you are pretty much taking a poll).
If you are really going for a 2.2 port, I suggest getting together/talking to already well-known porters/Incredible coders if you aren't already, as a similar task may already be going on and the more the merrier (also faster =p).
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I agree, which is why I don't completely understand why it needs it's own thread and why it's in the development section instead of general (since you are pretty much taking a poll).
If you are really going for a 2.2 port, I suggest getting together/talking to already well-known porters/Incredible coders if you aren't already, as a similar task may already be going on and the more the merrier (also faster =p).
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+1 It's almost like asking if we want root... I doubt too many are hoping to install 2.0 or 1.6 on the phone.
Froyo allows rotation of the main android screens right? I hate that when my Inc is in my car dock(landscape) the main screens never rotate!
So yes, once I can get rooted, I would love Froyo for my Incredible. (I like sense too!)
TY
Hey rr12106 I would love to have froyo when its ready. Thanks for the effort.
Hey all loving the work you guys are doing ..i was just wondering if any new roms are coming out and wondering what people are working on
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Hey all loving the work you guys are doing ..i was just wondering if any new roms are coming out and wondering what people are working on
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im updating blue echo and red dawn on a regular basis. maybe working on a new rom with a few guys from this site.
I just got done with Dirteh South - Fast Dubz. There are no real themes built in but it's mostly stock without bloat, overclocked, and fast.
I can't wait to see a froyo with sense.always love using sense. Just smooth and simple.
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RegawMOD 3 should be out relatively soon
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RegawMOD 3 should be out relatively soon
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Nice, I thought you forgot about us on your vacation.
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RegawMOD 3 should be out relatively soon
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Is it going to be Froyo Regaw?
Haha, I just can't stand this sh**ty stock ROM. It's really terrible...
And, well, RegawMOD 3 won't be froyo....
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Haha, I just can't stand this sh**ty stock ROM. It's really terrible...
And, well, RegawMOD 3 won't be froyo....
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I can't wait! I love the AOSP ROM's but am excited to see what you come up with for this new ROM!
all ya really need is dd2.7 or CM6
not if you want sense lol, dd2.7 and cm6 are plain jane. i love um, but some are waiting for a sense bases 2.2 to come out...
most devs have moved on to the evo or the epic..the hero won't get near as many updates as it once had. ive tried a few roms including the froyo beta and i always end up back on the stock rooted sprint rom...with my own touches to it of course!
We've still got some dev's around. Evo gets their 2.2 update soon so out there will be a copy of 2.2 with sense in it floating around, doubt it will be long before someone figures out how to port it over to our hero's.
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We've still got some dev's around. Evo gets their 2.2 update soon so out there will be a copy of 2.2 with sense in it floating around, doubt it will be long before someone figures out how to port it over to our hero's.
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hopefully your right!
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most devs have moved on to the evo or the epic..the hero won't get near as many updates as it once had. ive tried a few roms including the froyo beta and i always end up back on the stock rooted sprint rom...with my own touches to it of course!
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Go spit that crap somewhere else. The only dev that has fully left the hero is damageless. I've seen u do nothing but complain. Here's an idea go complain elsewhere.
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Go spit that crap somewhere else. The only dev that has fully left the hero is damageless. I've seen u do nothing but complain. Here's an idea go complain elsewhere.
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did i touch a nerve? thanks, i think ill stick around!
and for your info here and ppcgeeks is a ghost town in the hero section.
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did i touch a nerve? thanks, i think ill stick around!
and for your info here and ppcgeeks is a ghost town in the hero section.
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No fixxxer no nerve touched. Let's see since evo came out....hmmm things that have come out...semi working froyo. Battery percentage mod. Overclock and under volt. Multiple roms. Battery tweaks. rooted 2.1. Plus many other mods and tweaks. Also many new users that have added to the hero. As far as I've seen this place is just as active as before. Its just since cdmahero got its own portal that its spread out a bit. There is less complaining (mainly cause u were gone) and most the convos r within threads that u prob don't visit. Plus lots of dev work is done via gtalk or irc and then released here. BTW who really goes to ppcgeeks.
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No fixxxer no nerve touched. Let's see since evo came out....hmmm things that have come out...semi working froyo. Battery percentage mod. Overclock and under volt. Multiple roms. Battery tweaks. rooted 2.1. Plus many other mods and tweaks. Also many new users that have added to the hero. As far as I've seen this place is just as active as before. Its just since cdmahero got its own portal that its spread out a bit. There is less complaining (mainly cause u were gone) and most the convos r within threads that u prob don't visit. Plus lots of dev work is done via gtalk or irc and then released here. BTW who really goes to ppcgeeks.
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just keep telling yourself im fixxer, whatever gets you through the day. that guy must of been EPIC round here because he's all you ever talk about.
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just keep telling yourself im fixxer, whatever gets you through the day. that guy must of been EPIC round here because he's all you ever talk about.
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Nope not epic just a douche. And u remind me of him plus I've had others confirm who u r. As in mods.
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Go spit that crap somewhere else. The only dev that has fully left the hero is damageless. I've seen u do nothing but complain. Here's an idea go complain elsewhere.
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+1!
Why not make your own Rom markus?
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has anyone ever talked about doing this?..i know team douche isnt working with the X but id love to see cm6 on the x...but i dont have the brain to pull it off..or even know if it could be pulled off?
Bumping...
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bumping to and why?...ive seen one post about this and it was like 4 months ago...
I had cyanogen on my eris and i loved it. CM6 on the X would rock! Im sure it is a daunting task with the way the X is locked down. Someone has to figure it is a challenge worth undertaking at some point.
i think one of the main reasons they cant is because you cant flash custom kernels on the X..but i would die for some cm6 love on the X
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i think one of the main reasons they cant is because you cant flash custom kernels on the X..but i would die for some cm6 love on the X
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Can't be done until bootloader is unlocked....search and read before pointless threads.
Just an FYI... Its in the works. Obviously we wont have everything CM6 has because of the kernel issues, but we will have a lot. And its being worked on right now. So, this thread isn't useless
Its just gonna be a while, so dont hold your breath.
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Just an FYI... Its in the works. Obviously we wont have everything CM6 has because of the kernel issues, but we will have a lot. And its being worked on right now. So, this thread isn't useless
Its just gonna be a while, so dont hold your breath.
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how do you know?
Did you really just question Beesely's word on potential in-progress developments?
Wow... lol.
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Just an FYI... Its in the works. Obviously we wont have everything CM6 has because of the kernel issues, but we will have a lot. And its being worked on right now. So, this thread isn't useless
Its just gonna be a while, so dont hold your breath.
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Lmao...still makes this a useless thread...lots of people are working on things....Google is working on Gingerbread ...still don't need a thread about it...lol
No worries and not fighting with ya...and don't really care to much...lol
I asked a question there was one other thread about this like 4 months ago....if you don't have an answer for the question then leave the thread....if this thread being here really bothers you that much then you have issues...its not pointless cause I want to know if anyone had any info on it
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My point should of been that You could do some searching or research and get ur answer easily.
CM6 Roms are not possible for us right now because we can't load a custom kernel on our devices.
We should be able to eventually get a mostly all AOSP ROM on our phones, but it will never be truely built from source until we can load a custom made kernel and break the bootloader.
Most of the great stuff in CM Roms is reliant on Koushs and other teamsouche memnlbers custom kernels...so having a CM6 Rom on our Droid X without a custom kernel is kinda lame....cool still....but would be missing all the great stuff CM6 has to offer...hence why CM6 doesn't support our Droid X right now.
Shoulda just answered u in the first place....sorry bout that been having a bad week and shouldn't of been a dbag about it.
Cheers
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Lmao...still makes this a useless thread...lots of people are working on things....Google is working on Gingerbread ...still don't need a thread about it...lol
No worries and not fighting with ya...and don't really care to much...lol
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What good is a forum if we cant talk about stuff thats developing? I agree, its gonna be kinda lame without the kernel mods, and it wont be official, but SUPPOSEDLY someone I talk to is doing what they can with what we are given to work with.
Heres to hope...
Cheers.
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My point should of been that You could do some searching or research and get ur answer easily.
CM6 Roms are not possible for us right now because we can't load a custom kernel on our devices.
We should be able to eventually get a mostly all AOSP ROM on our phones, but it will never be truely built from source until we can load a custom made kernel and break the bootloader.
Most of the great stuff in CM Roms is reliant on Koushs and other teamsouche memnlbers custom kernels...so having a CM6 Rom on our Droid X without a custom kernel is kinda lame....cool still....but would be missing all the great stuff CM6 has to offer...hence why CM6 doesn't support our Droid X right now.
Shoulda just answered u in the first place....sorry bout that been having a bad week and shouldn't of been a dbag about it.
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ahh no problem...it happens to the best of us...i just want the little nick nacks that come with it...like on the pulldown bar with the power controls...
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ahh no problem...it happens to the best of us...i just want the little nick nacks that come with it...like on the pulldown bar with the power controls...
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Yeah I hear ya...me too
Hey guys, noticed no one had posted the latest OFFICIAL stock OTA kernel yet and if they have, sorry I missed it
This is not the leak. This is the OFFICAL, lol
Also this is for Gingerbread Sense Roms. Not AOSP.
Anyway, here it is in its full unmodified glory: 2.6.35.13
Thanks Koush for the AnyKernel Updater.
Source
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Hey guys, noticed no one had posted the latest OFFICIAL stock OTA kernel yet and if they have, sorry I missed it
This is not the leak. This is the OFFICAL, lol
Also this is for Gingerbread Sense Roms. Not AOSP.
Anyway, here it is in its full unmodified glory: 2.6.35.13
Thanks Koush for the AnyKernel Updater.
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OMG! about time HTC released it...now we can get legitimate kernel releases intead of ports and tiny can make his better
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OMG! about time HTC released it...now we can get legitimate kernel releases intead of ports and tiny can make his better
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No I think your confused with the source not the kernal itself
sent from my sexy Slcd Droid Incredible. not dinc or D-inc that just sounds stupid.
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OMG! about time HTC released it...now we can get legitimate kernel releases intead of ports and tiny can make his better
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That kernel version is the same one that's in our 4.06.605.3 roms. It was built on 8/18/2011.
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That kernel version is the same one that's in our 4.06.605.3 roms. It was built on 8/18/2011.
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They'll catch on eventually. I thought the title was pretty clear myself, lol
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They'll catch on eventually. I thought the title was pretty clear myself, lol
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oooohhhh....
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oooohhhh....
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It's cool, lol. Can't wait for source though. Should be getting closer I would think.
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It's cool, lol. Can't wait for source though. Should be getting closer I would think.
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It's been like 40 days since it starting rolling out GB and Thunderbolt had the froyo kernel within like 2 weeks of kernel release I think some users were badgering HTC to release it as well. The main release I'm in a hurry is I want to get something out before I upgrade to the Nexus Prime which I will do upon release and won't spend as much time on the Inc.
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It's been like 40 days since it starting rolling out GB and Thunderbolt had the froyo kernel within like 2 weeks of kernel release I think some users were badgering HTC to release it as well. The main release I'm in a hurry is I want to get something out before I upgrade to the Nexus Prime which I will do upon release and won't spend as much time on the Inc.
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They still haven't officially rolled out the update. They did a couple of test batches but it has never been released to all Incredibles. My buddy at work is stock and never got the notification. I think their tests always revealed another issue, like we've seen with the stock based roms.
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They still haven't officially rolled out the update. They did a couple of test batches but it has never been released to all Incredibles. My buddy at work is stock and never got the notification. I think their tests always revealed another issue, like we've seen with the stock based roms.
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Ah yea I never received the update notification either. Not that it really matters though, lol
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Ah yea I never received the update notification either. Not that it really matters though, lol
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Interesting, I guess they're letting the Inc fade out. Kind of amazing that it's even being considered, given how "old" this phone is.
I wish HTC would release another classic like this instead of turning to gimmicks like 3D and Beats. I mean, the Rezound? Really? Sense is enough of a selling point, IMHO. If they just backed it up with killer specs.
I digress. Thanks for the kernel, Stang. Much appreciated!
Thanks. I was wondering where this was like three weeks ago. Figured I was just blind :O Very useful for trouble shooting.
Well, its whatever. People on XDA would much rather bash those that need help than to actually help them. I'm still learning but I can't get anywhere with these types of comments. So until then I'll be over at themikmik.com.
Follow me if you truely care. If not, nice knowing ya.
already about 5 ics roms not counting the cm9 alpha, why??
they all have the same bugs
they all have the same things working
super ics kangorama?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360567
koush's + launcher pro added..
nexus mv ics?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364411
koush's + glados kernel + v6 supercharger
ultimate ics?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363765
koush's + some extra wall papers + file explorer
all these things are just a completely alpha ics build with some hacks thrown in.. why?? why not just make a post in the ics thread (either by kwiboo or koush) saying "hey guys use launcher pro if you feel its buggy" or "here is link to glados kernel" instead of making "New ultimate sweet fast ICS rom" when all you are doing is downloading one of the actual source built ics roms and opening it with 7zip and dropping in a new boot.img in there then asking for donations :/
/rant
It is no different than the numerous GB/CM based ROMs. Who cares?
Bounced off a tower to a forum near you!
I think that He ( OP ) won't be happy until they say Beta.. its alpha for a reason. so many bugs much more than beta. just sit happy with GB and give it time. I rushed it and lost the ability for Google Wallet, nothing can fix what went wrong with my phone.
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I think that He ( OP ) won't be happy until they say Beta.. its alpha for a reason. so many bugs much more than beta. just sit happy with GB and give it time. I rushed it and lost the ability for Google Wallet, nothing can fix what went wrong with my phone.
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What happened? I had wallet set up and ready to go, tried it at rite aid and wouldn't go through...
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these people couldn't be taking part in a hobby for them, could they be just trying to learn the ins and outs of android, heck they couldn't even be kids learning to code and all are getting excited to show off what they complied.
Last time I checked you were not required to flash every rom in the Dev section. So lets take a step back I don't like miui nothing wrong with it but should I be complied to start a thread asking why we have topics about when I don't care for it.
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You said it....
Chill out. We have to get AOSP working bug-free in the first place, then they'll start looking different. Even CM9 doesnt have any CMsettings or anything special. We're sorry that something that we're beating Google at (ICS release for NS) currently is not to your standards.
In due time.....in due time.
I see where the OP is coming from, but I disagree. The fact that the devs work hard to bring the OS to our devices is pretty appreciated. They pretty much do Google's work for free by modifying the code.
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already about 5 ics roms not counting the cm9 alpha, why??
they all have the same bugs
they all have the same things working
super ics kangorama?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360567
koush's + launcher pro added..
nexus mv ics?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364411
koush's + glados kernel + v6 supercharger
ultimate ics?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363765
koush's + some extra wall papers + file explorer
all these things are just a completely alpha ics build with some hacks thrown in.. why?? why not just make a post in the ics thread (either by kwiboo or koush) saying "hey guys use launcher pro if you feel its buggy" or "here is link to glados kernel" instead of making "New ultimate sweet fast ICS rom" when all you are doing is downloading one of the actual source built ics roms and opening it with 7zip and dropping in a new boot.img in there then asking for donations :/
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you missed these two.. http://goo.gl/bdy4w and http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/sammich/crespo/
i can probably find you a few more if you would like more variety
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you missed these two.. http://goo.gl/bdy4w and http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/sammich/crespo/
i can probably find you a few more if you would like more variety
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lol im not mad that they are all buggy, im mad that people are "deving" with a buggy base and just adding to it. why not be a little patient, if you cant create it/build it from source, wait til the base you will be using to 7zip and copypaste into your rom becomes stable. dont use an alpha build to promote your name
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lol im not mad that they are all buggy, im mad that people are "deving" with a buggy base and just adding to it. why not be a little patient, if you cant create it/build it from source, wait til the base you will be using to 7zip and copypaste into your rom becomes stable. dont use an alpha build to promote your name
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I don't think you quite understand how it works currently. There is no buggy base. They're attempting to adapt AOSP source code to compile and execute correctly on the Nexus S. This is way more complicated than you think. Almost all "bugs" you see are byproducts of tinkering with configurations, compile-ations, etc, in an attempt to get it working properly.
To put things in perspective, ICS development for the Nexus S is light years ahead of all other devices. For that reason alone, we should be grateful. Others are still struggling to either boot, or get somewhere AFTER boot.
If you don't like the way it's done, then wait for the official ROM. You have a choice, after all.
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I don't think you quite understand how it works currently. There is no buggy base. They're attempting to adapt AOSP source code to compile and execute correctly on the Nexus S. This is way more complicated than you think. Almost all "bugs" you see are byproducts of tinkering with configurations, compile-ations, etc, in an attempt to get it working properly.
If you don't like the way it's done, then wait for the official ROM. You have a choice, after all.
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yes, two roms are getting built from the source on xda; kwiboo and koush. then all the others.
both kwiboo and koush thread is full of bug reports of people using a different rom like brainmaster, ultimate ics, kangorama ics, etc.
all this does is add confusion from the rom chef adding things to the original rom developers work
what im suggesting/ranting is that if a rom chefs should be a little more patient in making more spinoff roms that don't really add much besides to confusion for noob users
Your argument makes a LOT more sense now. I agree, if people are posting bugs in Koush/Kwiboo sections when running brainmaster or other tweaked versions, then that's bad.
Your original argument didn't really point this out.
Not much can be done about that, aside from aggressive moderation. Tweakers will be tweakers.
nickmv said:
Your argument makes a LOT more sense now. I agree, if people are posting bugs in Koush/Kwiboo sections when running brainmaster or other tweaked versions, then that's bad.
Your original argument didn't really point this out.
Not much can be done about that, aside from aggressive moderation. Tweakers will be tweakers.
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Most of the bugs posted are not even valid. One in particular is known issue even on the GNexus.
The biggest issue I see is code optimization at this point.
One thing I think no one has mentioned is ICS may never be super fast on the NS. I will be much faster on dual core hardware
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RonnieRuff said:
One thing I think no one has mentioned is ICS may never be super fast on the NS. I will be much faster on dual core hardware
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This is one thing that has been bothering me as well. Every single one of these ROMs are not truly as smooth as Gingerbread. In no way do they even reach the fluidity found in Gingerbread ROMS. The hardware acceleration helps, but even then you can still feel the difference between the two Android releases. I have yet to hear a proper explanation as to why this is happening and I was hoping that the fix for this would be Google releasing the official Ice Cream Sandwich update.
Is it is code optimization as you say? Or is there more to it than that? I want to believe that hardware doesn't play a significant role here.
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This is one thing that has been bothering me as well. Every single one of these ROMs are not truly as smooth as Gingerbread. In no way do they even reach the fluidity found in Gingerbread ROMS. The hardware acceleration helps, but even then you can still feel the difference between the two Android releases. I have yet to hear a proper explanation as to why this is happening and I was hoping that the fix for this would be Google releasing the official Ice Cream Sandwich update.
Is it is code optimization as you say? Or is there more to it than that? I want to believe that hardware doesn't play a significant role here.
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Agree 100% no released rom before ota is even out is worth running.. I ran koush or w/e and it worked but felt like I was holding a brick.. ruff! Brainmasters straight looks like android donut.. but so does cyanogens.. no disrespect to any of the above.. but htcclay is god..
Edit: wasn't brainmaster it was some one else.. sorry
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BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
Agree 100% no released rom before ota is even out is worth running.. I ran koush or w/e and it worked but felt like I was holding a brick.. ruff! Brainmasters straight looks like android donut.. but so does cyanogens.. no disrespect to any of the above.. but htcclay is god..
Edit: wasn't brainmaster it was some one else.. sorry
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Strange, I've found that Koush's latest (CM9 Alpha 11) is plenty fast, not significantly slower than GB. Definitely Kwiboo v2 was slow as molasses, but then again it came out days ago (a long time when it comes to how fast things are moving). BM v5 is pretty fast but buggy. Also, it seems that adding franco kernel to any of these also speeds things up significantly, but I haven't tried it with CM9 Alpha 11 yet.
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Strange, I've found that Koush's latest (CM9 Alpha 11) is plenty fast, not significantly slower than GB. Definitely Kwiboo v2 was slow as molasses, but then again it came out days ago (a long time when it comes to how fast things are moving). BM v5 is pretty fast but buggy. Also, it seems that adding franco kernel to any of these also speeds things up significantly, but I haven't tried it with CM9 Alpha 11 yet.
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I found kwiboo's to be a lot more stable than koush's. although koush's had more functionality.. my bluetooth didnt work, and i got many errors.
Understand that we are using old binaries. ICS will run just as good as gingerbread, if not, better. These will make a world of difference
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One thing I think no one has mentioned is ICS may never be super fast on the NS.
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I'd kind of disagree with this. In its current early state here on the NS, I've gotten it running butter smooth and highly responsive, on a 1.1 OC/UV kernel. This is WITHOUT tweaks to filesystem, etc. If certain apps would just display properly when GPU Rendering is turned on, and some battery stuff worked out, I'd be 100% content.
Now granted, I've seen it running on the SGS2 and Galaxy Nexus and they're clearly speedier, but in my experience, my apps run just as fast as they did in GB.
On a side note....wanna see slow? It's been ported to the T-Mobile G1! HA! The first, original android phone!
I agree. there was actually a recent article on android police about this. There is no problem with people making their own roms but don't clog up the development section with "roms" that really all they do is bundle some easily downloadable market apps and some wallpapers and call it a new rom.
What the SGS2 xda forum actually did was split the dev section into 2 . One for original dev work and one for spin offs.