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I'm not sure that how many people at here know this fact.
Tegra 2's H.264 decoding is waaaay worse than Hummingbird(Galaxy S)
It cannot run any HD H.264 video HP.
Source?
Tegra2 can decode 720p at AVC HP and 1080p at AVC MP with reasonable/usually bitrates at 30p.
€dit: Just seen that u have the korean model, right? AFAIK the LG-Player isn't supporting the mkv-container,
allthough Tegra 2 would be up for the task (at 720p30 HP) as mentioned earlyer.
You will find out when you get O2X
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I think with VLC or RockPlayer you can probably see a difference
How does x264 perform?
I think its the same issue as Adam had with the video/audio desync. Its not a hardware limitation.
I don't get it. I've tried various videos and none of them work properly. However, the demo video files that were on the device (1080p) run perfectly. No frame-skipping at all.
Is there something I'm missing?
I was kind of baffled by this too.
Brilliant playback on the included 1080p files.
So i thought yay lets grab some 1080p trailers from youtube with tubemate.
But alass. not very smooth! Think its indeed the profile that does the trick. or in this case, doesnt.
Next thought. Ok rockplayer will help me out here!.
But i wasnt too impressed with rock on my galaxy s either!.
Loaded rock. but also very crappy. Which is when u think of it, pretty logical.
Why? No hardware support! Rock doesnt even remotely know what a tegra2 soc is. and in fact, NONE of all the video apps do.
So in stead of funky tegra2 hardware decoding, you get software playback.
Ive heard some rumors about nvidia developing an android video player for tegra but i dont know if this is true or not at all.
so unless someone makes a proper video playback app (which in my opinion is way over due already! no offence but theyre all crap if u ask me!) which supports hardware playback AND tegra2 soc, it wont improve very much.
My 2 cents
Ok some more info, apperently Tegra2 isnt very great with high profile encoded. baseline and main profiles should work. more testing to do. Also everything below 1080p high profile should kind of play properly. My eyes are on VLC for android and fingers crossed for them to bring tegra2 suppot and their own great codec sets
Check the Motorola Atrix forum, on XDA (sorry cant link from mobile app), they have basically given up on playing hd h264 files on tegra 2. Such a shame.
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Yes indeed. It sucks ass. I have the same unit but then from T-Mobile Netherlands. Video included works like a charm (ofcourse) but own added videos look like they are in slowmotion. 720p, 1080p doesn't mattter same issue.
Extra added flaw? When your record video in Full HD it does not play back on Full HD TV's or BD players. I checked why and found that it actually records in 1920x1088p!!!! Yes 1088P people.
FOTA updates are also not working for the T-Mobile branded unit. Comes back with validation error.
Tegra 2 limitation
Some search on the internet revealed that Tegra 2 supports fully h.264 main profile, but for high profile, it is only 720p 6MB/s, which is then not suitable for a BD. Anyway, I don't have the intention to fill in my 32 GB of storage with just one movie...
Recording in 1088p instead of 1080p is a bit more annoying, you think there could be a solution for that?
Tom
TheGoD said:
Source?
Tegra2 can decode 720p at AVC HP and 1080p at AVC MP with reasonable/usually bitrates at 30p.
€dit: Just seen that u have the korean model, right? AFAIK the LG-Player isn't supporting the mkv-container,
allthough Tegra 2 would be up for the task (at 720p30 HP) as mentioned earlyer.
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Yeah MVK-files can be played with other videoplayers on Market but I've read in reviews that it's awfully "laggy". Saw a video where they tried to play mvk in RockPlayer, i think it was, and damn... looked like 1fps!
I tried to play a mkv file yesterday with the build-in player which crashed my phone.
I installed qqplayer and am pretty satisfied with the result.
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I tried to play a mkv file yesterday with the build-in player which crashed my phone.
I installed qqplayer and am pretty satisfied with the result.
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What kind of mkv did you try? 1080p?
I keep saying its a software issue causing all these troubles, i have a Adam and since the latest update i saw a improvement on the video playback.
Once we get proper support for mkv it will be awsome
LeviathanPT said:
I keep saying its a software issue causing all these troubles, i have a Adam and since the latest update i saw a improvement on the video playback.
Once we get proper support for mkv it will be awsome
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Do you have a video of the adam playing back mkv?
You can search in the thread @ my sig for " Notion Ink Adam Qi Vs Motorola Xoom by Inspiron41 "
I can add that any file that i have MKV to be played has to have the extension changed to AVI and only QQPlayer can run them, if the sound quality is high more than 2 channels the fps rate will be low this happens with either 720p or 1080p. But if i try to run a MP4 file with 1080p it runs very smooth with audio and video sync, so for me its a issue with decoding of MKV.
Oh and the Adam is running froyo no multiprocessor support neither the video apps do.
What ROM can I flash to playback video as smoothly as possible? I see in some discussion people saying their Tabs can play back 1080p high profile MKV's perfectly, while in others, such as the Overcome ROM discussion, people are saying that they're seeing a lot of stuttering invideo.
Most people are talking ****, there's also no point in playing 1080p movies on the tab, they aren't going to look any better than 720p movies (which play just fine) real high profile 1080p rips are 15-25gb so you wouldn't even be able to get them on the tab.
At the moment, the latest and greatest is overcome gold, mix that with the oc kernel and you'll be fine playing back high bitrate 720 movies
I have found the old line of overcome better than 2.0 for some things. It has been more stable for me and I never has any problems with video play back. I've haven't tried 1080 since I've never seen the point: more storage and zero perceivable quality improvement.
The source and transcoding are far more important.
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The reason I asked about 1080 is just because a lot of my files are already ripped as 1080, and I don't want to have to transcode my files to play them back.
any decent rom will do, even the stock one. Overclocked kernels on ext4 filesystem works better though. Watching 1080p movies on Overcome Gold + koxudaxi kernel.
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hi i recently purchased my lg optimus 2x in general i am very happy with my smartphone the only issue i have is when i try to play hd 1080p videos either with mx player or mobo the videos go very slow i tried the same thing on a samsung galaxy s2 and the videos worked flawlesly any recomendations how to fix that issue?
did you install mx player codecs for tegra 2? (you have them on play store as well)
yes i installed MX Player Codec (ARMv7) these are the ones anything else i can't believe that i am the only one who is experiencing this problem
Same problem... Codecs are installed for tegra 2 but video framerate is catastrophic.
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yes i installed MX Player Codec (ARMv7) these are the ones anything else i can't believe that i am the only one who is experiencing this problem
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you're not the only one... 1080p lags on my phone as well (MX Player too)... but i rarely play anything thats over 720p so i don't mind...
hightmare said:
hi i recently purchased my lg optimus 2x in general i am very happy with my smartphone the only issue i have is when i try to play hd 1080p videos either with mx player or mobo the videos go very slow i tried the same thing on a samsung galaxy s2 and the videos worked flawlesly any recomendations how to fix that issue?
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use software decoder in mx player an also install armv7 codec for mx player.
hightmare said:
hi i recently purchased my lg optimus 2x in general i am very happy with my smartphone the only issue i have is when i try to play hd 1080p videos either with mx player or mobo the videos go very slow i tried the same thing on a samsung galaxy s2 and the videos worked flawlesly any recomendations how to fix that issue?
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Try to clear memory, hold home button then 'stop all'.
You made the mistake of buying this phone.
Anyway try Dice player, I find it superior to all other players
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You made the mistake of buying this phone.
Anyway try Dice player, I find it superior to all other players
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every device has its pros and cons buddy....this phone is completely unbrickable and has its own BIG advantages.....
it is better to give solutions than make mockery.....
Thanks for the understanding mate
hightmare said:
hi i recently purchased my lg optimus 2x in general i am very happy with my smartphone the only issue i have is when i try to play hd 1080p videos either with mx player or mobo the videos go very slow i tried the same thing on a samsung galaxy s2 and the videos worked flawlesly any recomendations how to fix that issue?
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Did you try with standard LG Fotocamera? I never had fullhd problems with froyo/GB/CM7/ICS
Nvidia tegra 2 cannot decode x264 or h264 formats @ 1080P resolution. Try converting the videos to MPEG-4 @ 1080 Resolution.
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every device has its pros and cons buddy....this phone is completely unbrickable and has its own BIG advantages.....
it is better to give solutions than make mockery.....
Thanks for the understanding mate
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No one phone on its same 'league/level' had a worse problem this carp, ie SGS2
You must be blind if you didnt read where I gave him a possible solution to try Dice Player
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Did you try with standard LG Fotocamera? I never had fullhd problems with froyo/GB/CM7/ICS
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No problems with fullhd videos, recorded on camera. We are talking about movies downloaded to phone i.e. mkv or mp4 fullhd movies.
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asmerito said:
No problems with fullhd videos, recorded on camera. We are talking about movies downloaded to phone i.e. mkv or mp4 fullhd movies.
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Yes, i do encode and decode movies. SO AFAIK, tegra 2 cannot decode h264 codec.
Tegra 2 can decode 1080p coded in low profile. Medium and commonly used high profile are not supported. You can google what choices you can set up to have low profile video. Very good SW for recoding videos is handbrake. I wish you good luck with searching best encode configuration.
i downloaded the iron man 2 trailer 1080p hd video here's the LINK
i'm using mx player, temasek final build rom and stefan final symbiosis kernel
the video is sluggish to play and the sound is not matching when stark open his mouth for now i didn't using ICS rom or cm10
i also try to play the video in different decoder included on the mx player but it doesn't work
You can run 720p or 1080p fluid.. spawndk from the eepad transformer forum:
"The Tegra2 chipset are designed as a mobile sollution chipset - to support web 2 standards. The highest encoding profile used here (Youtube 1080p) are 1080p baseline and this the Tegra2 chipset will both record and play with no troubles. As well as 720p baseline and main profile - but only upto L3.1 with some limitations. It doesnt matter which container is used (mkv, mp4, m4v, avi etc) and it doesnt matter if resolution are 1080p - its only a matter of the encoding profile used to encode the supported video format H264
Tegra2 will NEVER be able to decode High profile L4.1 encodes - it's not a software issue, neither in terms of Honeycomb or Nvidia libs, its simply a limitation of the abilities of the hardwaredecoder in the Tegra2 chipset and this will never change. It is also not a limitation in the Transformer specifically, but a limitation in ALL Tegra2 based tablets and mobilephones.
This is the same reason why some mediaplayers like the Boxee Box that was originally intended to use the Tegra2 moved on to an Intel chipset before launch.
In short the Tegra2 chipset will support playback of videos encoded in 1080p or 720p resolution, using the H264 video codec and AAC audio codec - as long as the video are encoded after the baseline profile standard
It will not now or ever - play 1080p/720p encodes encoded after the high profile standard."
So basically, you have to reencode videos just like on ipad..
you should reencode to low profile, high profile is for blu-ray device or PC. don't know maybe exynos 5 can play high profile [email protected] with handheld.
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Hi
Please somebody confirm is Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 capable of playing 1080p 10 bit (mostly anime) videos?
(please also include info what player you have used, mode of playback, hardware, sowftware, version of a tablet etc)
I am really interested in buying this tablet and the screen is just gorgeous but I am also an anime fan and would like to watch my anime in the highest possible quality on it.
Thanks
Ed
ziprar said:
Hi
Please somebody confirm is Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 capable of playing 1080p 10 bit (mostly anime) videos?
(please also include info what player you have used, mode of playback, hardware, sowftware, version of a tablet etc)
I am really interested in buying this tablet and the screen is just gorgeous but I am also an anime fan and would like to watch my anime in the highest possible quality on it.
Thanks
Ed
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Bump!
I'm considering getting one of the Tabs to avoid carrying my -huge- laptop to watch stuff in other rooms. Also, maybe there's a difference between exynos vs snapdragon regarding video playback capability. Any input appreciated!
And just to confirm... from what I've been reading, T700=Exynos and T705=Snapdragon? there's no T705-Exynos based?
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I'm considering getting one of the Tabs to avoid carrying my -huge- laptop to watch stuff in other rooms. Also, maybe there's a difference between exynos vs snapdragon regarding video playback capability. Any input appreciated!
And just to confirm... from what I've been reading, T700=Exynos and T705=Snapdragon? there's no T705-Exynos based?
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I have yet to see the first Snapdragon for the Tab S series, all of them have been Exynos, i believe that they might use Snapdragon in the NA models to come around november to Verizon and T-Mobile but right now, the LTE and WiFi versions T700-705-800 and 805 are using Exynos.
Video playback has been smooth on my T705 (lossless 1080 flac).
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I have yet to see the first Snapdragon for the Tab S series, all of them have been Exynos, i believe that they might use Snapdragon in the NA models to come around november to Verizon and T-Mobile but right now, the LTE and WiFi versions T700-705-800 and 805 are using Exynos.
Video playback has been smooth on my T705 (lossless 1080 flac).
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So T700 is Exynos-wifi, and T705 Exynos-LTE.... if they finally roll out Snapdragon based TABs, there should be a new model number, right?
I tried a Hi10P video on a Snapdragon600 based S4 mobile and playback was very choppy -using BSPlayer-, do you know if there's 10bit HW decoding support on the Exynos running the new TABs?
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So T700 is Exynos-wifi, and T705 Exynos-LTE.... if they finally roll out Snapdragon based TABs, there should be a new model number, right?
I tried a Hi10P video on a Snapdragon600 based S4 mobile and playback was very choppy -using BSPlayer-, do you know if there's 10bit HW decoding support on the Exynos running the new TABs?
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tried some 10bit with mxplayer and that was choppy on the 10.5" tab s
heatfire said:
tried some 10bit with mxplayer and that was choppy on the 10.5" tab s
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What player were you using? SW or HW decoding? Prolly in SW decoding mode any of these won't be able to produce smooth playback and from what a quick reading on the specs and a couple of sites, the Mali GPU on the Exynos SoC would not support 10bit video decoding... so if I'm not wrong, there goes my hope...
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What player were you using? SW or HW decoding? Prolly in SW decoding mode any of these won't be able to produce smooth playback and from what a quick reading on the specs and a couple of sites, the Mali GPU on the Exynos SoC would not support 10bit video decoding... so if I'm not wrong, there goes my hope...
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There's no GPU, PC or mobile, that supports hi10p decoding. That said, I have a hard time believing that the Tab S wouldn't be able to play 1080p hi10p videos smoothly as my old Nexus 10 with a far slower CPU almost pulls that off and my Z1c with a Snapdragon 800 plays them smoothly (granted, it's a much lower resolution screen but still) with MX Player.
I've put a test video in the link below that people can try to see if it plays smoothly. MX Player is recommended.
http://www.fileswap.com/dl/4GAia6Pop/
Lol full metal alchemist... love the anime... it play fine on my tab s 8.4 with bsplayer and its extra 7arm codec.
Mxplayer was ok last time but now since they lose some codec due to licensing issue some of the high quality video just play choppy since its use sw mode only.
Btw the tab s also lacking some codec. Dont know why samsung left out some of the codec although the device are capable.
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Provinomico said:
What player were you using? SW or HW decoding? Prolly in SW decoding mode any of these won't be able to produce smooth playback and from what a quick reading on the specs and a couple of sites, the Mali GPU on the Exynos SoC would not support 10bit video decoding... so if I'm not wrong, there goes my hope...
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HW wasnt supported. so it was SW.
It's working just fine on my tab 10.5 exynos processor. However i had to turn off all the codec codes and run on pure hardware acceleration for it to work. Goes to show the exynos processor can play videos just fine without any hardware codec or software aid.
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There's no GPU, PC or mobile, that supports hi10p decoding. That said, I have a hard time believing that the Tab S wouldn't be able to play 1080p hi10p videos smoothly as my old Nexus 10 with a far slower CPU almost pulls that off and my Z1c with a Snapdragon 800 plays them smoothly (granted, it's a much lower resolution screen but still) with MX Player.
I've put a test video in the link below that people can try to see if it plays smoothly. MX Player is recommended.
http://www.fileswap.com/dl/4GAia6Pop/
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CazeW said:
There's no GPU, PC or mobile, that supports hi10p decoding. That said, I have a hard time believing that the Tab S wouldn't be able to play 1080p hi10p videos smoothly as my old Nexus 10 with a far slower CPU almost pulls that off and my Z1c with a Snapdragon 800 plays them smoothly (granted, it's a much lower resolution screen but still) with MX Player.
I've put a test video in the link below that people can try to see if it plays smoothly. MX Player is recommended.
http://www.fileswap.com/dl/4GAia6Pop/
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I wouldn't know about the Mali GPU capabilities, but I also thought a Snapdragon800 should be able to playback Hi10p, hence I was interested on getting the 'supposed' Snapdragon version of the Tab S 8.4.
The new Mali -T764- though, seems to support 10bit decoding and H265/HEVC, so I was kinda hoping the T628 Mali would do also 10bit decoding...
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It's working just fine on my tab 10.5 exynos processor. However i had to turn off all the codec codes and run on pure hardware acceleration for it to work. Goes to show the exynos processor can play videos just fine without any hardware codec or software aid.
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I hadn't read you... so you got that Hi10p sample that CazeW posted playing back smoothly? which player did you use?
That clip played fine on my 10.5 thru BS Player but SW mode only. All my 1080p rips play in HW mode so not sure... This is still a great device for multimedia.
I use a media player that is banned by ios and android called xbmc or soon to be renamed to kodi. The best media player ever!
It runs great on either software or hardware accelerometer alone.
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I hadn't read you... so you got that Hi10p sample that CazeW posted playing back smoothly? which player did you use?
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Where do you guys get these 10bit Anime series from. I normally stream them from Anime.fullfights so quality is never really HD (it says 720p but most likely a bit compressed)
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Where do you guys get these 10bit Anime series from. I normally stream them from Anime.fullfights so quality is never really HD (it says 720p but most likely a bit compressed)
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General torrent sites or dedicated anime trackers.
BTW i just bought a Tab s8.4 today, and tried the sample straight away using vlc, smooth playback, will try with the video I could not play with an galaxy s4, which is higher bitrate, if it plays back I would be officially in love with the thing.
No luck, tried a high bitrate video (with embedded subtitles), the same I used on the Galaxy S4, and it plays better but is still unwatchable Both with VLC and KmPlayer. I will install xbmc and BSPlayer tonight but I fear the results will be the same :/
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No luck, tried a high bitrate video (with embedded subtitles), the same I used on the Galaxy S4, and it plays better but is still unwatchable Both with VLC and KmPlayer. I will install xbmc and BSPlayer tonight but I fear the results will be the same :/
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Did yoiu try MX player pro? Also you if u give me a link I could test it out on my custom rom
eousphoros said:
Did yoiu try MX player pro? Also you if u give me a link I could test it out on my custom rom
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Hi eousphoros, last night I tried with MX Player, HW+ mode did not work, but software&multi core mode seemed to play it back about fine, not absolutely perfect, but watchable, as soon as I flash a custom kernel a play with settings a bit I'm sure it will improve the missing -tiny- bit. Thanks for the tip. Will try also BS-Player&XBMC.
So yesterday I got challenged by a friend if my nexus 6 can play pure 4k videos on it or not, I thought that it can play those easily since I've been playing hevc videos on mx player and vlc on my nexus for sometime and it's a powerful phone but I was disappointed when neither mx player nor vlc was able to run it, no hw was supported on mx player and vlc couldn't run it either, so any of you guys have ever played 4k videos on Nexus 6, not converted 4k videos but pure heavy 4k videos, tell me if android lollipop was able to play it and marshmallow can't
All depends on the codec, the higher the efficiency generally the more work the CPU has to do. So H.264 might be easier to view but given the N6 doesn't have a 4k screen, being able to actually view 4k video is kinda worthless. The S805 doesn't even support 4k natively anyway iirc that was a new thing about the 810