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hello my fellow tab geeks.
a few weeks back, i purchased the official samsung galaxy capacitive stylus but really am not very impressed with it and just wanted to see if others feel the same way.
i've tried several stylus before for my prev iPad and none of them moved very smoothly across the surface due to the requirements of a capacitive screen, etc.
anywho, from using it for a few days; it seemed to stick more to the screen than move smoothly and in turn made any fast note taking impossible. i could never duplicate the accuracy of using a pen on paper.
are all capacitive stylus basically plagued with this problem?
now i remember the advantages of resistive screens. if only someone would finally make both on their tablets.. hmmm...
any feedback would be great! thanks!
I think it's one of the downsides of capacitive screens. I bought a boxwave stylus and it's got issues even though it had the best reviews. You need a lot of surface area contact to make a capacitive screen work.
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sparkyxda said:
I think it's one of the downsides of capacitive screens. I bought a boxwave stylus and it's got issues even though it had the best reviews. You need a lot of surface area contact to make a capacitive screen work.
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thanks for your input kind of what i thought.
seamonkey420 what stylus are you talking about? please give me a link.
I bought the BoxWave stylus too and quite like it. It does require some pressure to get enough contact to work correctly but as the end is so soft it's not a strain. Once I got used to it I prefer the stylus over using my finger for most tasks and it has the added advantage that the screen remains clean. Obviously you need to revert for fingers for pinch-zoom and any other multitouch gesture though.
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seamonkey420 what stylus are you talking about? please give me a link.
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http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/ET-S100CBEGSTA
Galaxy Tab™ Conductive StylusET-S100CBEG
seamonkey420 said:
...any feedback would be great! thanks!
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I bought the same stylus with the intent of using it for a drawing app I have on the Tab. I, too, was disappointed. It takes quite a bit of pressure to get a solid line, otherwise it would skip here and there along the line. It worked ok for just moving through screens or typing, but for doing any kind of useful sketching or drawing it was pretty much useless.
Maplins do one that has a soft tip - but it's no substitute for a finger....
bought these over at ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/3pcs-Stylus-Tou...196333?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item4cf4a8796d
not bad and i do need to put some pressure on it but since they have a soft point im not concerned
Losing your capacity
I also noticed that if you hold the stylus anywhere but in contact with the metal band, it doesn't track at all. Sometimes you want to hold it further back.
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Targus stylus
I got the targus stylus and it works on the iPad and galaxy s but struggles with the galaxy tab. I'm a bit disappointed. Must be a different kind of capacitive screen. Writing with it on the iPad is like writing on paper. Very smooth and quick to get used to.
Anyone had any better luck with styli on the g tab?
jimmyjack72 said:
I got the targus stylus and it works on the iPad and galaxy s but struggles with the galaxy tab. I'm a bit disappointed. Must be a different kind of capacitive screen. Writing with it on the iPad is like writing on paper. Very smooth and quick to get used to.
Anyone had any better luck with styli on the g tab?
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Only stylus that works is stock one only works well but digs a hole in your pocker
Got any old HDD bags laying around?
If you wrap a cut off of it around the end of a pen you have a cheap stylus and it works brilliantly on my legend
It's also a very smooth plastic so I haven't had it bog down on me at all.
Dagi stylus
I ordered a Dagi stylus after seeing a demo on a Galaxy Tab that made it look smooth. There's a few different models, so I'm hoping they have catered to the slightly different capacitive screen on the Galaxy to that of other devices.
If it was a faked video I have a stylus for my iPad.
trust me .. your fingers are working better . stylus are crap just to sell and get some profit from it thats all ..
and if you wanna a fast smoothy screen flash new rom
50-3 said:
Got any old HDD bags laying around?
If you wrap a cut off of it around the end of a pen you have a cheap stylus and it works brilliantly on my legend
It's also a very smooth plastic so I haven't had it bog down on me at all.
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Yay for raising dead threads!
Could you elaborate more on "HDD Bags" I'm curious
Could you elaborate more on "HDD Bags" I'm curious
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He means antistatic plastic bags used to protect sensitive electronics,
usually silver or silvery like appearance
I just tried with the top of a microscrewdrive, it works surprisingly well
thanks 50-3 for the tip
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He means antistatic plastic bags used to protect sensitive electronics,
usually silver or silvery like appearance
I just tried with the top of a microscrewdrive, it works surprisingly well
thanks 50-3 for the tip
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OH! I might have a few of those kicking about, thanks!
The foam tipped ones I tried in the shops were all rubbish. Not even worth a £.
GT \m/ I loves it
Has anyone tried a stylus pen on the SGT? Was thinking about getting the DAGi stylus for my tab but before I did I wanted to know if anyone had any advice to give based on past experiences.
Regards,
Tyler
Boxwave!
I picked up a black Boxwave IPad 'Styra' (pen one end and stylus the other). I find it very accurate. Also tried a Pogo but found it pretty poor (too squishy and kind of fuzzy tip). If you search forvreviews youwill find heaps. All I need now is a decent handwriting recognition app. Tried several in the market and not impressed.
hey buddy i ordered a Dagi, ill recieve it in about a week. i liked the perciseness of it. so ill keep u posted how it is once i get it
Get the red dot pen by HTC. That's what I recommend, anyway. It's extremely precise. Just search google for "red dot stylus htc".
Anyone knows whether there is any palm rejection supported software out there for note taking on the tab? been seeing that the hardware supports it, but i dont think there is any good software to utilize it yet..
What like how the htc flyer notes app works? That uses specilist hardware so it wont work on the tab
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Hi all HTC did NOT make the pen for the flyer it was n-trig take a look at there web site just Google n-trig
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The screen for GT is supplied by Atmel and through web there was an interview with Atmel's product marketing Binay Bajaj saying
"There's something called "palm rejection." We support that. And unintended touches, which you can reject. We call it "grip," touching the screen from the side. We have something called "grip suppression." In spite of the grip, you can still use the device."
So I was hoping that the hardware for GT already supports it, but there is no software out in the market utilizing this feature yet.. unless I missed it. And yes, flyer's digitizer is supplied by n-trig and thats a different matter.
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Anyone knows whether there is any palm rejection supported software out there for note taking on the tab? been seeing that the hardware supports it, but i dont think there is any good software to utilize it yet..
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so the palm rejection isn't just automatic on the tab at all times? it has to be supported in specific apps?
that woudl suck if that's true. I figured it was just like that all the time.
either way we need some useful handwriting or other custom writing (jot?) style apps for the tab/android. otherwise a stylus is sort of an inconvenient gimmick, isn't it?
is it all the same type of stylus head in the market? from the after market product of stylus? i tried once but it feels of lag of motion, this an eraser head type (flat on the surface)
I got the "just mobile AluPen". Rounded eraser head type, but glides very easily. I got it for highlighting in PDFs.
Works quite ok. But not as well as my finger!
When you use it for Swype, the trace on the letters looks okay, but the recognition is way worse than with the finger. And you have to press a bit to get a good trace.
Stopped using it.
I got targus tablet stylus pen for 11€ including shipping.
It works okay, but its not as useful as I thought, finger is still working better, one has to press to hard and capacititve styluses aren't accurate enough.
Fingers are better...
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Rayan McFly said:
Fingers are better...
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sure they are, but even used a phone in -10°C?
Finger becomes useless when wet in rain or due to sweat hence we need a stylus as a backup in those extreme conditions.
even used a phone in -10°C?
Finger becomes useless when wet in rain or due to sweat hence we need a stylus as a backup in those extreme conditions
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Capacitive screens are rubbish at low temps, question: do styluses work with gloves on or do they need direct contact with the skin as a current path?
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do styluses work with gloves on or do they need direct contact with the skin as a current path?
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If you have capacitive stylus then they work with gloves you don't need direct skin contact.
Pogo stylus pen are the best for this purpose.
http://www.tenonedesign.com/stylus.php
Pogo stylus pen are the best for this purpose
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Tanks, I just order one from Amazon, I was going to buy an Trent battery pack anyway so I added the pogo to my trolley too
Regards
P
I am waiting for my device but I want to buy samo accessories for it. This is my first capacitive tablet and I want to buy a good stylus for it. My wife will use it for drawing - so it will be nice if it is suitable for this too.
mihail.mitsov said:
I am waiting for my device but I want to buy samo accessories for it. This is my first capacitive tablet and I want to buy a good stylus for it. My wife will use it for drawing - so it will be nice if it is suitable for this too.
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http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/10/2925937/best-stylus-ipad-review
Personally, I got Andonit Jot Pro because I wanted to be able to write as thin as possible (when needed). Especially, at one point owning Note 10.1, I missed the S-pen experience. So I got Andonit Jot Pro based on the review for my transformer infinity, which i also tried to use on my wife's ipad 2.
Though I can tell you one thing. Capative screen stylus is nothing but a finger replacement. So accuracy is nowhere that of inductive technology e.g. Galaxy Note 10.1, Wacom Pen devices. Furthermore, there is no palm rejection i.e. as soon as your palm touches screen it recognizes the palm.
So to be honest, even cheap stylus would still do the job. if I could return my andonit stylus, I would have and just kept using my 3 for $5 stylus over $20+ Andoit Jot pro.
So, as far as the pressure sensitivity goes, the adonit joint pro does work? It's the lack of palm rejection that's bothersome?
EDIT: My bad, it's a capacitive stylus. There are pressure-sensitive styluses for Android, but I don't think they are supported in apps which makes them pretty useless.
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My bad, it's a capacitive stylus. There are pressure-sensitive styluses for Android, but I don't think they are supported in apps which makes them pretty useless.
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You are absolutely right. I believe at least on iPad people tried couple different things such as using bluetooth signal, or even using ultrasound to make pressure sensitivity. As you have figured those pen are usually very expensive. Last I recall are almost close to $100. Even the pressure sensitivity works (which i am still skeptical) but even then two major issues:
1. application support - just as you said. Each app has to support it individually and not many app does that. Simply because most android device don't have the capability. So why would devs implement such.
2. Lack of accuracy/palm rejection - Without these simply your writing experience won't be a real i.e. yes you can right here and there for fun, but for practical use such as taking note, you will quickly learn that actually doing such on real paper would be faster.
Careful with the Jot Pro. I own one, and it scratched the living daylights out of my Nexus 7 and Xoom. While it's by far the most precise (since it let's you look at the precise location where you will write), it's not worth it to me if it means scratching the screen. I also refuse to use a screen protector because of how they make my fingers feel when swiping across the screen.
As a decent replacement, I now use the Boxwave Evertouch, which I bought on Amazon for about $10. It's nowhere near as precise as the Jot Pro, but it won't scratch my precious N10. I still use the Jot Pro on my Xoom and N7 since they're already scratched.
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HoushaSen said:
You are absolutely right. I believe at least on iPad people tried couple different things such as using bluetooth signal, or even using ultrasound to make pressure sensitivity. As you have figured those pen are usually very expensive. Last I recall are almost close to $100. Even the pressure sensitivity works (which i am still skeptical) but even then two major issues:
1. application support - just as you said. Each app has to support it individually and not many app does that. Simply because most android device don't have the capability. So why would devs implement such.
2. Lack of accuracy/palm rejection - Without these simply your writing experience won't be a real i.e. yes you can right here and there for fun, but for practical use such as taking note, you will quickly learn that actually doing such on real paper would be faster.
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I used a Cosmonaut stylus for a year on an IPad 2 with the Notheshelf App. It was a great stylus and the app gave you what they called "wrist protection". Basically horizontal and perpendicular lines where you could set your palm without leaving marks, so you could write just with the stylus. (they don't have this app for android... i asked them)
Now that I am moving to a Nexus 10 (my first android device) I am looking for an App with this characteristics. Can anyone recommend one?
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I used a Cosmonaut stylus for a year on an IPad 2 with the Notheshelf App. It was a great stylus and the app gave you what they called "wrist protection". Basically horizontal and perpendicular lines where you could set your palm without leaving marks, so you could write just with the stylus. (they don't have this app for android... i asked them)
Now that I am moving to a Nexus 10 (my first android device) I am looking for an App with this characteristics. Can anyone recommend one?
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I think lectures notes has a "palm safe zone"
I'II have to monitor my screen for scratches from the Jot stylus. I found I was having to grip the stylus too hard because of the aluminum body of the stylus. Also, any dirt or oils on the screen greatly reduce the sensitively of the Jot stylus, even trapping dirt between the hard plastic stylus tip and screen. Therefore, those of you using the Jot may wish to consider keeping your screen really clean. A second idea that has really helped is getting a length of heat-shrink tubing from an electronics store and shrinking it around the barrel of the stylus. This has given me a much more comfortable grip.
However, I will have to keep an eye out for scratches. So far, so good.
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mihail.mitsov said:
I am waiting for my device but I want to buy samo accessories for it. This is my first capacitive tablet and I want to buy a good stylus for it. My wife will use it for drawing - so it will be nice if it is suitable for this too.
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I think Adonit jot very good. I use with Google Nexus 7, very good when writing and painting. Can you search in google, have so much shop sale it
Hope you have product like early
Maxey said:
I think lectures notes has a "palm safe zone"
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Correct, & Papyrus Beta also has palm recognition. (Pressure sure there's one more app too, maybe Antipaper.)
As for the stylus, I currently have a cheap Griffin stylus and a Wacom Bamboo stylus. Between the two, Wacom's Bamboo stylus seems to be very popular and IMO it is much more accurate than the cheapo options.
I use the Bamboo pretty much everyday to take notes in class, it's a great option if your looking for an alternative to the Adonit stylus.
I'm getting the gosmart , it has the thinnest most Accurate tip and its got a spring on the front that makes it pressure sensatibe in a way
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Saw this on appy geek this morning:
http://tabtimes.com/news/ittech-acc...new-stylus-pens-android-and-windows-8-tablets
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KestrelX said:
Saw this on appy geek this morning:
http://tabtimes.com/news/ittech-acc...new-stylus-pens-android-and-windows-8-tablets
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Only works with Galaxy Note.
http://hexus.net/ce/items/gadgets/4...now-using-mobile-devices-will-feel-different/
pogo connect
I have been doing some research on stylus out there and the Pogo Connect seams to be one of the best things out there. Its supposed to work through Bluetooth
anyone knows if it will work with our Nexus 10 and if there are Android apps that will support it? that would be great!
I'm beginning to see a few scratches on my screen from the Jot Pro. It looks like a single event as if a small grain of sand got caught between the stylus and screen. I may try some sort of screen protector.
Has anyone reported scratches from other styli?
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I send an email to the guys that manufacture the Pogo Connect, this is their answer, sorry:
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Thanks for writing in. Pogo Connect is not compatible with Android tablets. We'd love to see Pogo Connect be as universal as possible, including support for Android systems. We've talked through some compatibility ideas, but we're just not sure yet if we'll be able to make it happen.
Feel free to let me know if you have any other questions.
Best Regards,
Ashley Skinner
Ten One Design
so i am thinking of getting the jotpro stylus for my nexus 10 but after reading this thread i am a bit concerned with the scratched issue some users talked about. does it come from the stylus or because of sand or something trapped between the screen and the plastic plate? i want to use the stylus indoors for notes on my university.
Hand stylus is amazing. 4mm tip gives great accuracy. Also you can get 6 replacement tips for $10.
When I say sand, I'm not referring to beach or outdoor sand. I'm referring to tiny abrasive particles, normally too small to notice. Perhaps I should have said dirt, contaminants, or some other term. The hard plastic tip of the Jot pro requires more downwards force than other styli. I don't believe the tip itself does the scratching, but hard tiny debris pressed into the glass by the Jot pro.
Has any one tried the Jot pro with a screen protector?
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Harfainx said:
Hand stylus is amazing. 4mm tip gives great accuracy. Also you can get 6 replacement tips for $10.
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Link?
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Guys, has anyone used a 3rd party stylus on an android phone. Need to buy one for my OP3. Primary use is to mark edits on photos, write comments and hopefully to make simple designs.
I'd like it to be under $10. Or is that too low?
OP3 doesn't have hardware stylus support, so you'll have to use something that "simulates" finger - meaning big tip. Either a rubber ball point or a plastic plate. Rubber ones are cheaper (you gen get those for as low as 1$), but they're really not any better than your finger. Styluses with plastic tip are slightly better because the tip is translucent so you see exactly where you're pointing at. But they're also more expensive. I got myself a DAGI Stylus (forgot model name) a few years ago. Works with any and all touchscreens, costs about 20$ (actually there were 2 styluses in the box - normal pen sized and a tiny narrow one + some spare tips).
Keep in mind that it still won't be much more accurate than a finger, you simply need special hardware for that (like Galaxy Note series and some tablets have).
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Have seen some people use this on an apple for sketching. Will be awesome even if it is that accurate
Currently using a generic capacitive stylus and it does not work great. Mind sharing your stylus and share your thoughts?
To be honest if you really want a tablet with a stylus, you should have gone with either the SGTS4 or the SGTS6 as both of those have the S-Pen. Which is the best stylus for a device.
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To be honest if you really want a tablet with a stylus, you should have gone with either the SGTS4 or the SGTS6 as both of those have the S-Pen. Which is the best stylus for a device.
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To be honest, this is not helpful to tell someone they should have gone with another tablet for stylus support. How does this help?
I have the Galaxy Tab S5e because it's cheaper. Many styli do work on most if not all tablets. The only thing that tablets that have official stylus support offer is pressure sensitivity and palm rejection. Two features which are only necessary for artists. For taking notes, I don't give a F about pressure sensitivity nor do I rest my palm on the screen/ paper when I write.
I'll be testing some styli and get back to OP.
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To be honest, this is not helpful to tell someone they should have gone with another tablet for stylus support. How does this help?
I have the Galaxy Tab S5e because it's cheaper. Many styli do work on most if not all tablets. The only thing that tablets that have official stylus support offer is pressure sensitivity and palm rejection. Two features which are only necessary for artists. For taking notes, I don't give a F about pressure sensitivity nor do I rest my palm on the screen/ paper when I write.
I'll be testing some styli and get back to OP.
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It helps by telling you you are wasting you time looking for a stylus for the S5e. There are two types of stylus. A plain capacitive touchscreen stylus that won't draw a line any finer than you can with your finger, and an electronic one like the S-Pen that will draw a line like a ballpoint pen. But the electronic one won't work with the S5e, so don't bother looking for one. They require a second digitizer that is situated behind the LCD and the S5e doesn't have one. The cost of that second digitizer is why the S-Pen tablets are more expensive. The pens themselves are fairly cheap.
I have Adonit stylus Dash 3 Silver, it works pretty well. It has problem when you are trying draw really slowly, It makes some weird curved lines. But I am using Sketchbook by Autodesk and it has some line smoothing what really helps.
Hi there
Let's be a bit more positive
I use a meko stylus. They are double ended.
One end is the normal blunt sort of stylus, which is great for on screen typing, while the other has a clear disc which allows you to see exactly where the fine center is touching the screen.
The actual stylus looks like a high quality steel pen with rubber finger grip
I bought a set of two 'pens' with 6 spare tips from Amazon for around £10 over a year ago and have only used 2 of the spare tips
Excellent quality and value. Highly recomanded.
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Hi there
Let's be a bit more positive
I use a meko stylus. They are double ended.
One end is the normal blunt sort of stylus, which is great for on screen typing, while the other has a clear disc which allows you to see exactly where the fine center is touching the screen.
The actual stylus looks like a high quality steel pen with rubber finger grip
I bought a set of two 'pens' with 6 spare tips from Amazon for around £10 over a year ago and have only used 2 of the spare tips
Excellent quality and value. Highly recomanded.
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I will grant you that that type of stylus beats the kind you can buy for about 50 cents each. But it is still a capacitive stylus that won't produce the fine line of an electronic one. There are apps which attempt to produce a "fine line" by extrapolating what would be the center of the "fat" line, but the results leave a lot to be desired. Bottom line, if you are serious needing a good stylus for your device, you need to purchase a tablet that was made for one. It's easy to tell. If the tablet didn't come with a stylus, it wasn't made for one.
Seems I've been handing out mistaken advice about stylii for "touch only" tablets. S-Pen and other "Wacom" based stylii DO require a second digitzer to work and most tablets simply don't have them. HOWEVER, I puchased a BoxWave Active Sylus because it was touted to work with my HP Envy X360 laptop. Just to prove it wouldn't work with a "touch only" tablet, I tried it with both my SM-T510 and T720 tablets. Much to my surprise, it works with both of them. I've never used a stylus for drawing, so I can't guarantee it works as well as an S-Pen, but it does produce a "ballpoint pen" type line in the drawing apps I tried. Also, the line width doesn't appear to be "pressure sensitive". I was able to buy mine on eBay for about $20, new with free shipping.