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I'm finally replacing my dell inspiron 600m with a shiny lenovo x61. the x61 comes with *shudder* vista, so i want to downgrade to xp. Problem? the x61 has no cd drive. my plan is to replace the hard drive of the 600m with the x61, install onto the x61 hard drive, and then replace back into the x61.
Would there be any problems with this? Baiscally, i'm just doing a clean install of xp onto the x61 hard drive. Are xp installs dependant on hardware? I would just use the generic drivers that are installed with xp.
In case you wanted to know, here are my x61 stats
Core 2 duo- 2.2ghz 800mhz FSB 4mb L2 cache
2gb DDR2-5600 RAM
12.1' XGA screen
120gb 5700rpm HDD
Lenovo wireless abg
Intel X3100 integrated graphics
Crappy size appropriate sound card and speakers
I got it for $850, i saved $600. Coupon codes ftw! </bragging>
it wont work, the second you put back the hdd in your x61 it will BSOD . Because of the different drivers of the different drivers, your best bet is to get a external USB CD/DVD drive and use it with the x61 to install windows.
i thought the hard drive access drivers were generic to some extent
StashCompInc said:
it wont work, the second you put back the hdd in your x61 it will BSOD . Because of the different drivers of the different drivers, your best bet is to get a external USB CD/DVD drive and use it with the x61 to install windows.
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I agree......spend some of the $600 you saved on a USB CD+DVD/RW drive - you're bound to need it at some point
Moving drives between machines is a bit of a black art - sometimes it will work (and you'll just need to reinstall all the hardware specific drivers) and other times it will BSOD or just hang part way into the boot. Can you not borrow a USB CD drive from someone/somewhere just to install XP with (and to use to copy the CD contents to the hard disk - or at least the "i386" folder - you KNOW you'll need it again )?
That's just my opinion - IMHO it would be so much quicker to install in place rather than messing about for hours/days doing it some other way....
Mark.
eh ok, i'll get one. good point about my $600 lol.
A core 2 duo will install wayyy faster than a dothan anyway.
in other news, this is one of the few threads i've made where i've gotten 2 responses wtihin a day of creation. cheers to y'all
This guide adds to the disassemble guide found in the Shift section. I will show you how to successfully install a 100GB Toshiba hard drive.
1) Follow the disassemble guide until the back cover on the Shift is removed.
2) Carefully pull back the tape found on the ribbon cable connecting to the hard drive.
3) Pull gently the ribbon cable that connects to the hard drive interface. I used pliers with electrical tape around the pinchers to not scuff/scratch the ribbon cable. The hard drive connector is of LIF type (Low Insertion Force) meaning it's on there simply by pressure and not secured by any clips. It should slide out easily.
4) Remove the rubber casing around the hard drive and store somewhere. It can't be used with the 8mm 100GB hard drive due to the depth difference between the two. (trust me... i tried).
5) Using a thin rubber patch (like those for bike tires/air mattresses), place it in the area where the 100GB hard drive will sit, in this way the drive sits on top of the rubber patch.
6) Push the ribbon cable into the LIF connector on the Toshiba 100GB Hard Drive. It should slide in fairly easily. Note: there are no audible clicks, just push it in as far as you can and secure it with the tape the same way the 40GB was.
7) Close the back cover and secure it with the screws. It should close fairly snug in the area where the 100GB is; nonetheless, it should close. If it doesn't, check your drive positioning.
8) Follow the disassemble guide to replace the keyboard (do the reverse).
9) Boot the system and the BIOS will automatically detect the new 100GB drive!
10) Enjoy! (remember, this is just a guide... i am not responsible for damages or warranty void)
Hello,
Thanks for this guide...
This is the very same HDD I installed into my Shift. You wrote :
Remove the rubber casing around the hard drive and store somewhere. It can't be used with the 8mm 100GB hard drive due to the depth difference between the two. (trust me... i tried).
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I had to sort out the Rubber thing too.
But on you picture, the rubber is still in place... So, just to make it crystal-clear to readers: confirming this is the rubber that should be removed (following maestro2mil's advice) or modified...
[adding] Btw, a thread is already live on this topic :
HERE
do you need to have copied accross the recovery image onto the 100gb drive (from the existing 40gb one) before you can do this?
salmon said:
do you need to have copied accross the recovery image onto the 100gb drive (from the existing 40gb one) before you can do this?
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No, you can avoid that (as you will need a specific adapter in order to have the 100GB plugged via USB. One time adapter in this case). You should make a HDD image of your 40GB before taking it out the Shift, put it onto a external HDD or a USB dongle, then back to the 100GB once it is installed. Using Acronis or equivalent tool.
If you want to start from scratch, with the recovery partition, then go for search in the forum, there is several ways to do it : copying it while hidden, via Linux tools or have it visible, before using Acronis tool.
[editing] Of course, you may want to have the recovery partition copied to keep the recovery capability on-board. Not really necessary if you keep safe aside a clean image of the former 40GB HDD partition.
Hi Folks
Thanks alot for all this information! I am absolutely keen to do that to, so would you please specify wht drive exactly you've bougth and used and what I may additionally need for the upgrade? I already have an image of the Shift for install via USB ready and waiting ...
Thanks alot!
Lutz
Hello Lutzh,
Please, have a careful reading to this thread :
Upgrading the HDD
Regarding the Hard Drive model used here: just look at the pictures!
Hi Yann
Thanks for the feedback - I did what you've said and I got one on eBay for 90 €, so now I am waiting for delivery...
Cheers, Lutz
LIF or ZIF or... ?
Hi ,I am new to this forum , live in germany and sorry for my poor english ( only with dictionary )
Can anyone help, because of my bad english it is hard, to translate all threads and postst.
Here is my question:
I am a bit confused about new HDD for shift.
I read, we need LIF-connector
In an other thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385578 ) they write , we need ZIF-connector.
What is the difference and what is correct?
I am thinking about buying a shift and about a new HDD.
Do I need a " GAH " or a " GAL " ? Or what should I order?
http://www.sdd.toshiba.com/main.aspx...ives/MK8025GAL
Thank You for Your help and sorry for my poor english.
Best regards!
T. Brumm
Hi T
I am expecting delivery this days - since I am German too, I'll report my experiences then, ok?
Lutz
Hello t.brumm,
I'm the one mentionning ZIF... I wonder why!
I added a post in the thread you're mentionning to correct my mistake...
HTC Shift is using a 40GB HDD with LIF connector so the model you plan to buy is quite ok.
"GAH" or "GAL" are not related to connector : HTC Shift is shipping with a MK400GAL and I changed it for a MK1011GAH, osome others for a MK1214GAH, etc...
Definitely, go for the MK8025GAL is it has the suitable heigh (5mm). Much more easy to make it fit into the case than those 8mm models.
Hello Yann,
thank You so much for Your help.
It is really not easy, to read all posts with dictionary. So Your answer becomes special importance for me.
But, The MK8025GAL has here 8mm, not 5mm!? What is correct?
http://www.storage.toshiba.eu/index.php?id=3&pid=229&sid=3
May I ask still an other question?
I have a desktop pc , which has a hidden recovery-partition too.
I did try to visible this partition (like it is written here ) but this does not work. ( maybe, because I have Windows XP and not Vista ? )
Then I used " Powerquest Drive Image 7 ".
This program sees the hidden partition and I can backup this hidden partition to another HDD too!
If I restore it somewhere on my HDD, this partition is not hidden anymore, it is visible and with " Partition Magic 7 " I can not hide this partition.
If I would do this on the shift ( I would like to change the HDD at first step and this procedure would be very easy)
could I than recover the system from the visible partition or should this partition generally invisible?
Thank You and best greetings!
T. Brumm
Thank
But, The MK8025GAL has here 8mm, not 5mm!? What is correct?
http://www.storage.toshiba.eu/index....&pid=229&sid=3
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Strange... I've to admit you pinpointed something: Toshiba is inconsistent here... To be safe, I would bet it's a 8mm. Still feasible, but more tricky.
Don't get me wrong: a 8mm heigh HDD fits but... and I guess you already read my comments on the other threads... the result is not really safe on the mechanical side. Still, with a little extra caution when moving around your Shift, everything is fine.
About Recovery partition, see this thread : Recovery from USB drive
Riki0081 is not hiding the Recovery Partition in order to boot on it from an USB dongle. Using a 4GB USB dongle is a very good solution...
Because as Riki0081 wrote HERE, Recovery boot (Fn+F3) won't work anymore if Recovery partition remains visible on the internal HDD.
By the way, I did it the lazy way: avoiding to deal with the Hidden Partition when possible.
Few weeks before getting the my 100GB HDD on-board, I let the Shift doing a Fresh install of Vista from the Recovery Partition. I rebooted on a CD with the Partition tool (Acronis), to copy the installed Vista onto an USB External HDD. At that time, I killed the Recovery Partition in order to save some space on the 40GB...
When my 100GB HDD arrived, I replaced the 40GB HDD with it, copying the initial Partition image (the "Fresh Vista installation") from the external storage back to the new 100GB HDD. Re-installing/organizing Applications and Data onto 2 "large" Logical partitions...
Hope my bad English is readable enough!
Hello Yann and thank You!
I think, I did understand Your post and I know, what to do!
And Your english is better than mine
Best regards!
T.Brumm
SDD or HD
Somebody who did the step to SDD drive already?
Is it wise while the shift bis open to build in a SDD?
If so please share model and connections
Thanks and regards
sorry kinda random information
but having an acer aspire one means i have had to upgrade my **** 8gb ssd to a hdd
and we have a zif connecting ssd
and this question came up many times in the forum
what is the difference between zif and lf
well z is for zero and l is for low
oif is for insertion force
basically toshiba realised it wasnt zero inserton force at all, and their drives are LIF.
hitachi drives are ZIF (as far as I know) yet both require the same amount of force o push the cable in (basically none)
but hitachi drives require a flip cable as their pinouts are reversed or something like that, so for the shift i would guess you can only have toshiba
plus if anyone doesnt want their ld drives, im sure people at www.aspireoneuser.com/forum/index.php would love them for a price, to save getting them of ebay
email me at [email protected] if youre interested
Rory
Hi
Following on from my last thread.. I have a 320gb western digital sata harddrive that i want to install win 7 on. So i set the sata to second boot device and have the dvd drive set to first boot. It loads into the dvd but it takes a while. At 22:47 it is "Expanding Windows Files (0%)" So its taken 10-20 Minutes to get to this stage. So why is it slow on SATA, And fast on IDE? (my ide drive is a wd 80gb)
thanks
flyboy
So i got it installed and it goes to starting windows and then Setup is updating registry settings then...
Blue screen:
Something like ****STOP 0x0000008E (that code is right)
then underneath:
Win32k.sys
whats that mean?
thanks
flyboy
question: to what is your DVD drive connected - S-ATA or IDE?
question: if you set the machine so it boots your normal system - does it still work or does that come up with an error too?
It sounds like you have files on the Windows 7 install disk that are corrupted - a blue screen and stop error, indicating a *.sys file, usually means that either the system cannot find that file or it is corrupted (Win NT servers at one of my old workplaces used to throw that sort of fit fairly often).
The long time it took to work might be as a result of the system trying again and again to read the problem file and then giving up - with microsofts usual skill at installation s/w it would show the process as completed - but when you try to run the OS it falls over.
You could either try and re-install from another copy of the Window 7 installation disk - or if you have access to a system running Win7 you could try and find the file its unable to find and manually copy it to the correct location and see if that solves the issue.
It may take more than one transferred file to solve the problem and it may leave your Win7 installation a little flakey, but it would be quicker than restarting from scratch.
Hope that helped
Jemma
@flyboyovyick2k9:
Need a few details about your system to be able to provide some guidance. Also would help to get the values that appear after - ex: STOP 0x0000008E (xxxx, xxxx, xxxx, xxxx).
Here are some details that would be helpful - worded them in question form:
1) OEM or home grown system? If OEM, brand & model. If HG, Motherboard manufacturer & model.
2) Does the system/motherboard support SATA or eSATA?
3) Does the system/motherboard BIOS have an option for AHCI or ATA?
4) If the BIOS does support AHCI, was it necessary to provide a driver during the Windows installation (ex: Intel Storage Matrix - TXTSETUP.OEM) ?
5) If you were able to install Windows to completion, were you able to install the Chipset and any sub-system (ex: Intel Storage Matrix) driver before restarting the system.
6) Are the firmware levels at the most recent (non-BETA) versions - BIOS, HDD, etc.
7) Does the HDD report as ok when running the WD Diagnostic tools?
8) Are all of the hardware components installed in the system compatible with this version of Windows?
9) Does the RAM report as ok when running a memory diagnostics tool (ex: Mem86, etc.)
10) What is the wattage of the PSU (power supply) in the unit?
HTH,
Right here goes,
The spec of my pc is in the signature. the psu is a Coloursit 550w.
Yes my board does support sataII.
The installation i have got works because i have just install it on my compaq evo laptop, and it works fine.
My normal machine boots fine without the sata drive connected but is a tiny bit slower when it is connected.
It has the latest bios. And is a homebuild. Not sure about the ahci or ata thing.
I have had a look but cant find it.
And yes i did get 4 other codes in brackets after the main one. Not sure if i can generate them again but will try.
The windows installation was fine on the ide. I did clone that drive to the sata one and it was fine but SLOW!
I could try and load the drivers for the sata in the windows installation.
thanks
flyboy
Hadn't noticed your siggie the first time around and after clicking reply, the siggie isn't visible ... my bad.
Had a quick look at the N68-S manual - looks like the systemboard supports SATA/SATA II. I haven't looked at AMD in quite a while so I'm going to assume that ATA/AHCI are intel specific technologies ... not sure if these translate to SATA/SATA II. What is the WD model of your 320 GB?
At first guess, it would seem that the issue could be related to a BIOS mis-configuration or a missing driver package post-Windows install. After cloning the partition, were you able to startup the system with only the WD HDD connected? If not, that could be an indication that Chipset/RAID/SATA drivers may be missing. That said, if you have the patience, it would be worth trying a clean install of Windows directly to the WD HDD to eliminate the possibility that the cloning software is messing up the partition structure.
Cheers,
Reference url's
Systemboard
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=N68-S
Downloads (Win7)
http://www.asrock.com/MB/download.asp?Model=N68-S3&o=Win7
Could be bad MOBO, HD or Media. Go buy a chep sata hd. If you get the same problem, Get a new disk, same thing, then RMA your mobo.
My Win7 installation got corrupted just by trying to come back from hibernate. Suggestion was that I had to insert installation disk in DVD drive and go through the installation recovery process which would copy the missing files back to hard disk and recover the system. It did the trick for me. It might be worth a try.
Well its not a bad motherboard because i would have took it back (lasting 6 months that is) And it was new when i bought it from Aria.co.uk for £32.
The drive is:
WD Caviar Blue/SE/SE16 (SATA II)
WD3200AAKS
Im just cloning the hdd again now because i run some tests and it came back fine. So just waiting on that. Mean while im using my laptop.
thanks
flyboy
Few more questions:
What product are you using to clone the HDD?
Before cloning the HDD, did you boot Windows with the WD HDD connected to the system?
Pertaining to the second question; connecting the WD HDD in the pre-clone instance of Windows would allow for the plug-n-play manager to detect the HDD and install the native Windows drivers.
I'd even go as far as to install the latest set of drivers for the entire system if you haven't already.
Additionally, confirm that Device Manager doesn't display "Unknown Devices" or "Disabled" devices. Address any device related issues pre-cloning.
Cheers,
The sata and ide drives are both installed in device manager. And i can access them. And write to them. But the read/write on the sata is 0.1xxx mb/s and on the ide is 100 or 200 mb/s.
EASEUS Partition Master. Does the same job as paragon.
thanks
flyboy
Hmmmm ... very strange ...
I'm going to assume the following points for the pre-clone image;
The WD HDD is at the latest firmware.
Jumper settings on the WD HDD are correct (http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc....php?p_faqid=1400&p_created=1134597011#jumper).
A SATA II compatible cable is being used.
Drivers were installed in the pre-clone version of Windows.
The BIOS is configured as recommended (ex: not overclocked for the moment).
If the WD HDD is underperforming before cloning the partition, I suspect that there may be a hardware incompatibility or the WD HDD is failing. There's no point in cloning the partition until you are able to obtain satisfactory performance from the WD HDD.
If the performance degradation is post-cloning, I would try a fresh new install of Windows directly to the WD HDD.
Cheers,
Could it possibly be that all the blocks on the hard drive are bad?
Also on the hdd it says that sata doesnt require jumpers, it does it.
thanks
flyboy
Assuming the following ...
The WD HDD Diagnostic reported that there was no issue with the HDD.
The jumper setting(s) for the HDD transfer mode is correctly set - 1.5/Mbps VS 3.0/Mbps.
A net new (clean) install of Windows to the WD HDD.
... and it's still running slow, I'd be looking to try a different HDD. If you experience the same issue with a different HDD Manufacturer/Model, I would start looking at the remainder of the hardware on your system.
Cheers,
Tryed installing windows 7 again, still slow erm. Ye i was just considering buying a new hdd.
Well im taking my pc to my uncles in february so he might be able to help me. Because we are doing a pc build for my 2nd cousin.
thanks for your help.
flyboy
my core i3 4gb ram laptop is only a year old but takes awhile to boot, even after a fresh windows 7 install and no bloatware. my netbook has a ssd and it flies. is it possible to put win 7 on a usb drive & run it from there? i was thinking about replacing the laptop hdd with a ssd but (1) i must disassemble the laptop down to the mobo so it will be a huge pain the ass, and (2) i would go from 500gb to 128gb storage. it would be better to simply run win7 from a usb stick. has anyone done this?
lol .... first of all u prolly cant change the ssd of the netbook to have it run on the lappy ... it may be with a special (zif) connector or a form factor of mini pci-e card .
second , the usb drives speed is nowhere comparable with an ssd .
third , using a portable os for everyday work would be a humongous Pita .
fourth , year old model 32gb ssds are still very good and come for dirt cheap . most lappys have two drive bays , you can keep the hdd for data , or just ditch the dvd drive(havent had a dvd drive in my comp for 5-6 years)
Hey Folks, I am a noob and stuck. I just got wifey the Dell Streak 7 on black friday special and being that its running Honeycomb, there is no USB driver. I called "Dell" which was a joke and after talking to several people I was told that the drivers wont be out there for several weeks.. (WTF).. I have gone through most of the forums for info but stuck.
I have a laptop running Vista, and my work computer that is running XP and need direction as too what I need to download to get the show on the road. I just want a way for me to access the tablet or SDcard through the USB cord.
I keep seeing references to ADB, and laslow site but those posts are referencing to those running Windows 7, or am I wrong. Any and all help for this lost noob would be gr8.
guyver08 said:
Hey Folks, I am a noob and stuck. I just got wifey the Dell Streak 7 on black friday special and being that its running Honeycomb, there is no USB driver. I called "Dell" which was a joke and after talking to several people I was told that the drivers wont be out there for several weeks.. (WTF).. I have gone through most of the forums for info but stuck.
I have a laptop running Vista, and my work computer that is running XP and need direction as too what I need to download to get the show on the road. I just want a way for me to access the tablet or SDcard through the USB cord.
I keep seeing references to ADB, and laslow site but those posts are referencing to those running Windows 7, or am I wrong. Any and all help for this lost noob would be gr8.
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Ok if you bought it new with Honeycomb on it then you bought the wifi version I assume. Anyway, all Honeycomb devices switched protocols, they are no longer USB Mass Storage devices, they are recognized and media players, so you should see a Portable Media Devide under My Computer if you have the latest version of Windows Media Player on your laptop...
OK, THAT being said, in my personal opinion it's the worst decision Google could've ever made. SO what I do is install a little app called Samba File Sharing, which allows you to connect to the 7 as a network device and have access to it's SD contents just like any other device connect to your computer.
Hope this helps. You have to set up a few parameters like network name and workgroup and such but it only takes about 1 minute and well worth the trouble
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Ok if you bought it new with Honeycomb on it then you bought the wifi version I assume. Anyway, all Honeycomb devices switched protocols, they are no longer USB Mass Storage devices, they are recognized and media players, so you should see a Portable Media Devide under My Computer if you have the latest version of Windows Media Player on your laptop...
OK, THAT being said, in my personal opinion it's the worst decision Google could've ever made. SO what I do is install a little app called Samba File Sharing, which allows you to connect to the 7 as a network device and have access to it's SD contents just like any other device connect to your computer.
Hope this helps. You have to set up a few parameters like network name and workgroup and such but it only takes about 1 minute and well worth the trouble
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Thank you for that tip.
Some devices require MTP, the s7 in this case isnt one of them. The s10 is though.
It's up to the rom maker to decide which one to use to use either MTP or USBMSD, depending on how the internal memory is organized.
Regardless MTP allows you to simultaniously access the device on a pc while using it on the device itself. With USBMSD you can only use it on one or the other.
The S10 has /sdcard as a symlink to /data/media, so you simply cant mount it or you'd unmount the entire /data partition (which would be very bad). The galaxy nexus is the same way, hence it requiring MTP mode.
The S7 has /sdcard as a seperate partition, I'm guessing mainly for the ability to simultaniously access it.
Fastboot+ADB.zip has every driver for every dell device.