[Q] Partition SD - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is there any benefit to allowing rom manager partition my sd?

Value of partition SD "I think"
Sanctus Peregrinus said:
Is there any benefit to allowing rom manager partition my sd?
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I wondered the same thing at first. I believe the value of this is if you do not have an external SD card installed which allows you to move apps from internal storage (first 2G of your 16G internal SD). When you partition your SD then it looks like you have an external SD so you can move apps that support that to save space on that first 2G. I'm not sure if this is all completely correct but the main point I believe is that there is no value if you have an external SD card.

That makes sense. Is there any disadvantage to having an app on the external sd card? Will Titanium Backup still see it and do it's thing to it?

I don't believe there are any disadvantages. TB will still backup apps on the external SD and I change the backup folder to "external_sd\Titanium Backup". After I flash a ROM which clears all user data, I simply reinstall TB and change the backup folder to the external SD location and all the backups are still there so I can restore.

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partitioned 8G SD card, but don't see change on Internal memory

My HTC Hero is running low on memory space (I have Apps2sd installed also, but it can't move all apps), so I partitioned my 8G SD card with ROM manager, with 32M swap, 1g ext4 and the rest being FAT32.
After reboot, I still only see 160M of internal memory from settings, which is the original, and about 6.1G on SD card. That means it already took out the 1G, but why I don't see it as internal memory? Is it because of ex4? I tried ex3 too and got the same.
I have backed up the original SD card, but have not copied it back to the partitioned SD card yet. Anything else I need to do in order to see the expanded Internal Memory?
Thanks in advance!
hxz said:
My HTC Hero is running low on memory space (I have Apps2sd installed also, but it can't move all apps), so I partitioned my 8G SD card with ROM manager, with 32M swap, 1g ext4 and the rest being FAT32.
After reboot, I still only see 160M of internal memory from settings, which is the original, and about 6.1G on SD card. That means it already took out the 1G, but why I don't see it as internal memory? Is it because of ex4? I tried ex3 too and got the same.
I have backed up the original SD card, but have not copied it back to the partitioned SD card yet. Anything else I need to do in order to see the expanded Internal Memory?
Thanks in advance!
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Your sdcard space has nothing to do with internal memory. What you need to do if you want to have more space is 1 or 2 of a few different things: go into root explorer, move apps from /data/app to /system/app; Use Firerat's Custom MTD Partitions
either of those should give you more internal memory.
Twolazyg said:
Your sdcard space has nothing to do with internal memory. What you need to do if you want to have more space is 1 or 2 of a few different things: go into root explorer, move apps from /data/app to /system/app; Use Firerat's Custom MTD Partitions
either of those should give you more internal memory.
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I read that after partitioning the SD card, apps will be installed into the ext3/4 partition automatically. But that's not the case after I partitioned. Then I found I need to install app2sd+ instead of app2sd. Is that true?
Where do I download app2sd+ ? do I need to flash a different ROM? I am having CM 6.2.0 now.
Thanks!
hxz said:
I read that after partitioning the SD card, apps will be installed into the ext3/4 partition automatically. But that's not the case after I partitioned. Then I found I need to install app2sd+ instead of app2sd. Is that true?
Where do I download app2sd+ ? do I need to flash a different ROM? I am having CM 6.2.0 now.
Thanks!
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CM6.2 has native apps2sd. Go to settings>CM settings>Application settings and select "Allow application moving", then select "External" for Isntall location.
Also, you can move apps that don't install or allow swap to the SD via Titanium Backup.
Just be warned that any apps that have widgets lose widget functionality if you move them to the SD.
Twolazyg said:
CM6.2 has native apps2sd. Go to settings>CM settings>Application settings and select "Allow application moving", then select "External" for Isntall location.
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Does it install ALL apps to SD card? I thought it's the same as App2sd, only moving those apps that specified by the developers as movable. And there are many apps that can't be moved to external.
My understanding is by partitioning the SD card, the EXT2/3/4 part is considered as part of the "internal memory" so that ALL apps will be installed here, thus free the real internal memory and lead to better performance.
The problem is it doesn't work after partitioning and I read that it needs app2sd+ or app2sd EXT to work, and I am having trouble finding them...
Thanks any way.
hxz said:
Does it install ALL apps to SD card? I thought it's the same as App2sd, only moving those apps that specified by the developers as movable. And there are many apps that can't be moved to external.
My understanding is by partitioning the SD card, the EXT2/3/4 part is considered as part of the "internal memory" so that ALL apps will be installed here, thus free the real internal memory and lead to better performance.
The problem is it doesn't work after partitioning and I read that it needs app2sd+ or app2sd EXT to work, and I am having trouble finding them...
Thanks any way.
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Not all, but most. Like BrandoKC said, you can move more apps to the sd using Titanium Backup. Don't move anything with a widget you use, or it won't work anymore.
BrandoKC said:
Also, you can move apps that don't install or allow swap to the SD via Titanium Backup.
Just be warned that any apps that have widgets lose widget functionality if you move them to the SD.
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Are you talking about the paid version of Titanium? The free version doesn't have this feature.
Twolazyg said:
Not all, but most. Like BrandoKC said, you can move more apps to the sd using Titanium Backup. Don't move anything with a widget you use, or it won't work anymore.
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CM's built-in Application Management can only move those apps that you can move by app2sd. I don't see such feature on the free Titanium Backup. My 160M internal memory is constantly under 20M of free memory.
I heard all the good things about using partitioned SD card. I have partitioned my card but that alone doesn't seem to work. it seems I also need to install some customized ROM on top of my CM 6.2 so that apps will be automatically installed on SD?
Thanks!
The free version of titanium does have it. I just used it on my fiances phone last weekend.
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Low Internal Memory - N1

Hello:
I've getting these low memory warnings everytime i update my apps. i've moved most of my apps to the SD.
My internal memory is 196MB, is this right?
i'm thinking when i flashed cm7, i might have assigned way too much ext memory. if thats the case, how do i re-partition my memory. i need to update my rom to version CM7.1
thanks,
oh yeah, and for some reason, my SD card total space is 3.03GB (but the factory SD card's memory i believe is 1.99GB)
If you're using CM7 why not use DT a2sd or S2E to move apps to the EXT section of the sd card?
If I read your post correctly, you partiton your sd card but you're moving apps to the FAT32 portion of the sd card.
If you use S2E or DT, you can move apps, and dalvik cache to the sd ext portion of the sd card (what these script does is make the phone think the sd-ext is part of your internal storage. This way apps with widgets, passcode can stil lwork like normal.
baseballfanz said:
If you're using CM7 why not use DT a2sd or S2E to move apps to the EXT section of the sd card?
If I read your post correctly, you partiton your sd card but you're moving apps to the FAT32 portion of the sd card.
If you use S2E or DT, you can move apps, and dalvik cache to the sd ext portion of the sd card (what these script does is make the phone think the sd-ext is part of your internal storage. This way apps with widgets, passcode can stil lwork like normal.
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i understand, but is it right that my internal memory total space = 196MB?
Don_Mayor said:
i understand, but is it right that my internal memory total space = 196MB?
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Yes that is correct
Confirmed here too. 196 on non-rooted stock N1. That's all she has.

How can i increase the rom size?

Is there any way to repartition the size of rom?
i want to combine all internal sd card space to the rom and make the external sd card as for the only one of sd card.
Can i edit the pit file to do that? and how?
thanks for your help
tommyhui said:
Is there any way to repartition the size of rom?
i want to combine all internal sd card space to the rom and make the external sd card as for the only one of sd card.
Can i edit the pit file to do that? and how?
thanks for your help
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You want to combine the internal storage and the usb storage into one storage space and the internal and external sd storage become just sd storage?
tknguyencsu said:
You want to combine the internal storage and the usb storage into one storage space and the internal and external sd storage become just sd storage?
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Yes
I would like to do this too, I know it is possible because my Motorola Xoom does this. I was surprised that the ICS update didn't reformat the internal storage to work this way.
The internal "/data" partition stores both application and "user" data and it is done by having a subfolder of the data partition mounted as the "internal sdcard" (/mnt/sdcard) by a special filesystem that strips all user permissions from the files.
That way as far as the OS is concerned all the data is on one unified partition so I could install 20G worth of apps if I liked, yet all the applications that download data or expect music to be on the sdcard have everything in the right place.
The extra sd card shows up as /mnt/external1
Mokubai said:
I would like to do this too, I know it is possible because my Motorola Xoom does this. I was surprised that the ICS update didn't reformat the internal storage to work this way.
The internal "/data" partition stores both application and "user" data and it is done by having a subfolder of the data partition mounted as the "internal sdcard" (/mnt/sdcard) by a special filesystem that strips all user permissions from the files.
That way as far as the OS is concerned all the data is on one unified partition so I could install 20G worth of apps if I liked, yet all the applications that download data or expect music to be on the sdcard have everything in the right place.
The extra sd card shows up as /mnt/external1
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I have tried to do this by editing the "vold.fstab" file in the etc folder. However I have not been successful. I can only switch between the internal and external sdcard.
Each time I failed I have to recopy the original vold.fstab file before the Note working again if I am lucky. Most of the time I have to reflash the rom again. You can get some information from the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454753

[Q] Make the SD the "default" memory

Hi, I have a Moto G 2014 with Stock 5.0.2 rooted, and I bought a 32GB SD Card a few days ago. The thing is that everything is still going to the internal memory, instead of the SD (photos, downloads, etc.), so I want to know if it's a way to make everything write on the SD card without messing up the phone (I heard I can mount SD in /sdcard changing init.rc but I don't want to do that). I also want to move my WhatsApp chats to the SD too, hehehehe (WhatsApp data is in the internal :'c)
Thanks in advance.
Hi,
For the photos and videos part, you can select from the camera application if you want to store them in the internal memory or on the SD card. For applications I think they are installed in the internal memory by default but you can move them after installation on the SD card by going to settings -> apps -> touch app -> move to SD card. To change the default installation location you need the android SDK installed on your PC and adb and then to edit a file. But I do not recommend this since the SD card is not accessible while the phone is connected to the PC. This will make applications that always run to work improperly(widgets, Facebook, etc. might generate a lot of errors because of it).
I think it's a Xposed module for that.
KuranKaname said:
I think it's a Xposed module for that.
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if you're rooted then try link2sd from play store. you need to have an ext partition on your sd card for this to work.
if you are not rooted then you will have to manually create symlinks to the files on the sd card.
ethanchow said:
if you're rooted then try link2sd from play store. you need to have an ext partition on your sd card for this to work.
if you are not rooted then you will have to manually create symlinks to the files on the sd card.
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Better try Link2SD. The procedure to turn your external SD to internal storage causes a lot of trouble in most cases.
There are also scripts that link the possible apps and libraries automatically to the SD card when installing them.

Weird SD Card Name on MM(6.0.1)

Hi,
My phone is installed by a pre-rooted MM rom and currently it's working welll without any problem.
But I found out one issue for sd card name.
internal memory name is under 'sdcard'.
sd memory(External) name is under 'storage/9016-4EF8'.
I think some app's data is not moved to sd card(External) due to that sd memory name.
For example, I installed "Day" app and data is saved both 'Internal' and 'Ext' in Link2SD app and App2SD app.
I checked file location for the app using 'Link2SD' but app's file location is still in the Internal.
Internal - Data(Data in Link2Sd) : /data/user/0/com.osmino.day
External - Data on SD Card(Data(Ext.) in Link2Sd) : /data/media/0/Android/data/com.osmino.day (Why internal???)
So I could not move data to Data(Ext.) because it's already recognized Data(Ext.) to extern SD card.
I think External SD Card file location would be like this "/storage/9016-4EF8/data/media/0/Android/data/com.osmino.day".
How can I change sd card and internal name or move to external sd card to move to external SD Card?
Do you have any idea?
Thank you.
notgi7up said:
Do you have any idea?.
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There are several paths to the external SD card with MM
/storage/exfat_uuid
is probably the shortest.
Download a copy of root explorer and familiarise yourself with the new MM file structure, it's not complicated, it just has new names from LL.
Using apps to move other apps onto the SD card doesn't sound like a recipe for success.
Let the Sony app manager do it.
thanks for reply.
then how can i move data to real external sd?
my storage is not enough so i need moving.
i think some app try to install data in external sd. I think many apps try to find sdcard named. currently sd card is internal memory. and exact sd card name is storage/9016-4ef8. i think that's why my internal memory is not enough.
notgi7up said:
thanks for reply.
then how can i move data to real external sd?
my storage is not enough so i need moving.
i think some app try to install data in external sd. I think many apps try to find sdcard named. currently sd card is internal memory. and exact sd card name is storage/9016-4ef8. i think that's why my internal memory is not enough.
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Take the SD card out, save the data on it, then format it
When you put it back in your phone and it asks you what to do with the SD card, DO NOT format as internal storage. This feature doesn't really work, or if you do get it to work. then it's really buggy and apps can't use it.
Once you have the SD card working, just use settings/apps/*your app* In the first bar down it will say where the app is stored and if you click on it, it will give you the option to move it.

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